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CTP (S3ESepSpecial2) AI vs. Human Creativity
Writer Allison McBain shares her personal challenge of writing 34 books in one year to prove human creativity still outshines AI-generated content. She explores the fundamental differences between machine and human writing, highlighting the "human spark" that AI cannot replicate.
• AI's infiltration across creative industries and its impact on writers and publishers
• Legal and ethical problems with AI mining authors' works without permission or attribution
• McBain's writing challenge: creating a book per week across multiple genres
• How AI fails at mimicking authentic human emotions and reactions in storytelling
• The changing publishing landscape from traditional gatekeepers to self-publishing
• AI's tendency to fabricate information, as demonstrated by the Chicago Sun-Times publishing fictional book recommendations
• Growing concerns about AI's use in education by both students and teachers
• The broader economic impact as AI displaces white-collar workers alongside blue-collar jobs
• The importance of maintaining human creativity despite technological advancement
Find Allison McBain's work at http://AlisonMcBain.com.
Writer Allison McBain shares her personal challenge of writing 34 books in one year to prove human creativity still outshines AI-generated content. She explores the fundamental differences between machine and human writing, highlighting the "human spark" that AI cannot replicate.
• AI's infiltration across creative industries and its impact on writers and publishers
• Legal and ethical problems with AI mining authors' works without permission or attribution
• McBain's writing challenge: creating a book per week across multiple genres
• How AI fails at mimicking authentic human emotions and reactions in storytelling
• The changing publishing landscape from traditional gatekeepers to self-publishing
• AI's tendency to fabricate information, as demonstrated by the Chicago Sun-Times publishing fictional book recommendations
• Growing concerns about AI's use in education by both students and teachers
• The broader economic impact as AI displaces white-collar workers alongside blue-collar jobs
• The importance of maintaining human creativity despite technological advancement
Find Allison McBain's work at http://AlisonMcBain.com.
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00:00Welcome to the Constitutionalist Politics Podcast, a.k.a. CTP.
00:07I am your host, Joseph M. Leonard, and that's L-E-N-A-R-D.
00:12CTP is your no-must, no-fuss, just-me-you-and-occasional-guest-type podcast.
00:19I really appreciate you tuning in.
00:22As Graham Norton will say, let's get on with the show!
00:26Hello, oh, my alarm clock.
00:30Can you hear it beeping?
00:34Uh, no.
00:35No? Okay, well, those on the video can see me holding up my alarm clock.
00:41It's indeed going off to remind me.
00:45And people seeing the video can see Boo the Cat wandering around behind me.
00:53Decided he wants to be part of this conversation, too, I guess.
00:58Welcome to the show, Alison McBain.
01:02How are you?
01:03Okay, Boo's running off now.
01:05That's good.
01:05Hey, I can actually move back on my own couch.
01:10Nice.
01:11Well, thanks so much for having me.
01:12And normally I have a cat wandering around in the background, too.
01:16So this time it was you.
01:17So that's great.
01:17Yeah, it's something you're familiar with, yes.
01:23Yes.
01:23It's actually my sister's cat, but he's been spending more time up here looking out the
01:29front door, wanting to get at the birds of late, of course.
01:33So at any rate, completely off the topic, we're here to talk about AI.
01:41Yes?
01:43Yes, definitely.
01:45And your experience, what raised your alarm?
01:52Well, before we get into that, I'm skipping the usual obvious first question.
01:59Who are you?
02:00Where are you from?
02:02Right?
02:02Where were you born?
02:03Where were you raised?
02:05Where are you now?
02:06How much time in prison?
02:08For what crime did you spend?
02:11Well, no time in prison yet.
02:14You never know what is coming around the bend.
02:17But, yeah, I was born up in Canada, in Alberta, but I grew up in California, moved to the East
02:28Coast in my 20s, and then have returned now to Alberta.
02:34So I sort of made a full circle in my life.
02:37But, yeah, I'm a dual citizen of the U.S. and Canada.
02:41I have one American parent.
02:42I have one Canadian parent.
02:44So I've been all over North America, pretty much.
02:48That's interesting.
02:52So, indeed, what got your dander up about AI that you engaged in this author versus AI battle?
03:05Well, as a writer, as a creative, you know, AI is on everyone's mind.
03:12Because it is, you know, it's sinking its fingers in all aspects of our lives.
03:18It's not just in the creative sphere.
03:20It's also in medicine.
03:22It's also online.
03:23It's producing videos.
03:24You know, like, you can find it anywhere, pretty much, nowadays.
03:28So, in particular, I was interested in the difference between AI creativity and human creativity.
03:37And I've seen the stuff that AI has produced.
03:42And, to me, it doesn't hold a candle to what people can write.
03:47Because it lacks that sort of human spark that you find in most writing.
03:51It lacks, you know, the soul, for a better word, of humanity.
03:57So, I set about doing this challenge where I would see if I could write almost as fast as AI, but hopefully much better.
04:06And I think I might have succeeded.
04:09I don't know.
04:09I guess the proof is in the pudding.
04:11So, people have to read my books and find out.
04:13Yeah, that's, I guess, for every person to read and decide for themselves, indeed.
04:23I am a former IT guy, so I've known of AI coming down the pike for a long time.
04:33We're just now, of course, really seeing it hit the fan, so to speak, with it permeating, as you alluded to, all aspects of life now.
04:47And what worries me the most is, full disclosure, sometimes I cheat.
04:59I'll use Galaxy AI to create an image.
05:03I've got an image in mind.
05:05I describe the image.
05:08I'll let it create it for me.
05:10But I don't claim to be the creator of it.
05:16Right?
05:17That would be a lie.
05:20That would, right?
05:21Sometimes with this show, I have behind-the-scenes videos.
05:27And rather than write from scratch a piece for Before It's News or Substack or Blogspot or Savaged Unfiltered Blogs,
05:41I'll run a video through Galaxy AI YouTube Video Summarizer.
05:50But I'm not asking it to create something out of whole cloth for me to claim as my own.
05:58In that case, it's just, I've created content, help summarize it for me, so I don't have to write it all down.
06:09And as long as I am honest about what's going on, I don't think that's a problem.
06:16The problem is, and copyright and plagiarism and fair use and trademark law and everything else hasn't caught up to people trying to claim under terms of service,
06:35Oh, well, I told ChatGPT to create something about XYZ, and it gave it to me.
06:43I instructed it, therefore I own it.
06:46Well, you may own it, but you didn't create it.
06:50And to claim otherwise to me is a lie and plagiarism.
06:55Yeah, there's definitely a lot of moral and legal problems right now with AI, specifically, you know, where it was created.
07:05Like, it was created by basically stealing a whole bunch of authors' works without their knowledge, without their say-so,
07:12and then using it for currently profit.
07:15They're for-profit companies.
07:18So, and people who are now using it and saying,
07:21Oh, you know, like I programmed in the prompt, so it must be my work.
07:25Like, no, it's really the work of the people whose writing has been stolen.
07:31So that is, you know, murky voters.
07:34Without any accreditation or attribution.
07:36None of that.
07:37And again, like I've said on the Cameron Journal, talking about the subject also,
07:46if, because as you said, and as an IT guy, I know, right, it's scouring the web.
07:53Other people's works to formulate something based on your prompt.
08:00Well, if person X said Y about topic Z, and you're inquiring about topic Z,
08:09and the AI spits out a quote without it being in quotes, and it telling you person X said this about Z,
08:19and you're using it, you're the one on the hook for it, because you didn't do any research.
08:28You're the one guilty of the plagiarism and the theft and the copyright violation at that point for that accreditation to not be there.
08:40That's true.
08:42And right now, AI is sort of like the Wild West.
08:47Pretty much, you know, there are rules, but a lot of these programs aren't really following them
08:54because they weren't programmed to, you know, which is why like the law courts right now have a number of lawsuits
09:01that are in progress and will probably be for a long time about the legality of using what AI produces.
09:10And yeah, so it is murky waters indeed.
09:13And we probably won't know until a couple years down the road where this is all going to be headed.
09:21It's sort of hard to put the genie back in the bottle, though.
09:24It's out there.
09:25And AI is helpful, as you pointed out.
09:28It's good at summarizing.
09:29It's good as being used as a tool, not a creator.
09:33So, for example, there are specific cases where in the medical field, it has saved lives.
09:41It has diagnosed very rare diseases because it has access to all the information.
09:46So, it can be a very useful and helpful tool.
09:49But again, when it comes to the creative realm and the legal ramifications of copyright,
09:55it's definitely crossed the line, in my opinion, at least.
09:59Yeah.
10:00And this is a problem, as always.
10:03Politicians, unfortunately, are lazy, worthless.
10:08Politicians, you know, whoever's paying, the lobbyists that are paying them to do things,
10:14rather than, right, wait till it becomes a major crisis, rather than deal with it.
10:21As an IT guy, I could have told you these things were coming.
10:25It could have been dealt with, but it wasn't.
10:28And as you said, things are happening in the courts.
10:32And courts are making it up as they go because the law doesn't cover it.
10:39And it will take several years for the lawmakers to bother to deal with it
10:45and, indeed, update copyright plagiarism fair use laws as they should have already 10 years ago.
10:53Well, the problem is, yeah, the legal system is reactive.
10:58It's not, it doesn't see down the road.
11:01So, like, and it's very slow.
11:03So, again, it takes a long time for it to catch up to all of these quandaries that we're now faced with.
11:10So, I mean, hopefully it errs on the side of creatives.
11:14That is my hope as a creative.
11:17But you never know.
11:18You never know what's going to happen next.
11:20But just speaking from a writer's perspective, the publishing world has been in upheaval for the past couple decades,
11:29you know, with the advent of e-books and, you know, self-publishing.
11:33And so who knows what the landscape will look like several years down the road with AI now in the mix, too.
11:40It's going to change a lot from when I was, you know, sending out my first queries to magazines and getting my first reject in the mail.
11:49I used to send the ones out in the mail.
11:51Like, it was a whole different landscape back then.
11:54And now it is super fast, super easy.
11:58And, unfortunately, AI is in the mix and can interfere with that, too.
12:05I'm writing down a note here so I don't forget.
12:09One of the notes is Rush, not Limbaugh, the Canadian rock group, right?
12:17Spirit of Radio.
12:18They talked about those who used machines, right?
12:26All this machinery creating modern music can still be open-hearted.
12:31It really is just a question of your honesty, as they wrote and they sung about, right?
12:40It's the same thing now with this stuff as a book and claiming it.
12:48And also, to what you're saying, oh, I can't think of her, Edgar Jones, I can't think of her first name.
12:59The kind of younger-looking Anne Hathaway, which was in The Crawdads Sings.
13:08Did you see that movie?
13:09Oh, yes, yes.
13:11Where the Crawdads Sing, yeah.
13:12A great film.
13:14It's kind of like an old To Kill a Mockingbird-style, 60s, 70s throwback-type film.
13:22Really kind of slow, but very good.
13:27And, to your point, in there was the whole point of her being told,
13:34well, you should write, put your illustrations together in a book.
13:38And, indeed, sending them out to publishers, hoping to get them published.
13:45Whereas, as you're saying today, everyone just throws it together on their computer
13:51and can upload it to Amazon, unedited, unchecked.
13:59Yeah, it's pretty wild.
14:03Like, I often like to say, because I'm a very optimistic person,
14:06so I often like to say this is sort of the golden age of publishing,
14:08because there are many routes to getting your work out there.
14:13And almost anyone could be a writer, right?
14:16So it's a very democratic type of landscape for writers, which I love.
14:22I love that there are so many avenues.
14:25There are tons of contests.
14:26There are small press publishers.
14:28There are, of course, the traditional publishers, self-publishing.
14:31It's wonderful to be in this age.
14:35But that means there's also a lot of other stuff to wade through.
14:39So if anyone can be a writer, that means there are also people who don't take the time
14:45or the effort that you used to have to put in because there were gatekeepers.
14:49There were more gatekeepers making sure that too many books didn't get to print.
14:53There's a lot of good stuff out there that might not otherwise been able through the old ways,
15:01the old days.
15:02But there's also, of course, a lot of crap giving people who are trying to put out good content
15:10a bad name because they just throw something together and see if they could sucker people
15:16into buying it on Amazon.
15:18And I go into that in my how to write a book again at Publish Hints, Tips, and Techniques.
15:25I talk about the old publishing and the new publishing ways.
15:30And indeed, like Rush sang about, it's really a question of your own sense of honesty
15:38and wanting to provide something real as opposed to your quick, rich, quick kind of scheme
15:51of throwing something out there.
15:54Because there's a lot of people who have stories in them.
15:58No doubt people should hear, and I want to help them get that out.
16:03But at the same time, I don't want them cheating using AI to do it.
16:12Yeah.
16:12Well, the thing is, it's like any get rich quick scheme.
16:16You know, like it almost inevitably, it doesn't work.
16:20And most people who are in the creative realm are not doing it because we want to get rich.
16:25If it happened, I'm sure we wouldn't say no.
16:28But at the same time.
16:30Most writers are not J.K. Rowling or Stephen King or Patterson or Clancy or even.
16:38Exactly.
16:39But we're doing it because we love the storytelling.
16:41We love to tell stories.
16:43We love to entertain.
16:44We love to have our voices out there.
16:47And so we would probably do it even if we didn't earn a single cent.
16:50And I think that's the genuine writer that still wants to be creative.
16:55Like I heard there's a meme going around that I saw on like one of the social media platforms that said,
17:01I don't want AI to write my books for me.
17:03I want AI to do my laundry and wash my dishes so I will have time to write my books.
17:09That's what it should be used for.
17:13That's what like Jetsons and all those visions of the future had in mind and in store for us to want.
17:22Right. Yeah. So we would have more free time to do things and less of the tedious stuff.
17:31And it's bass-ackwards, so to speak, right?
17:36Yeah. Yeah. It pretty much is at this point.
17:39But hopefully it will turn around.
17:43And again, it's not just the creative realm that is being upended by AI.
17:46I don't know if you've seen the news recently, but a number of the larger companies, especially like tech companies,
17:51are laying off thousands of workers.
17:56And this is sort of different from like some of the other layoff trends that we've seen.
18:00Usually it's the people at the bottom getting laid off.
18:02It's the blue-collar workers.
18:04It's the people in, you know, factories.
18:06It's the people who are doing the producing of things like cars, steel workers, things like that, that have been getting laid off.
18:13Now it's also the white-collar workers who are now getting laid off by AI.
18:17AI is taking their jobs.
18:19So it's sort of an overall trend, I guess.
18:22So we're going to have to find a new model, a new model for people to have jobs that they want to do, that they're able to do.
18:34And not just, you know, what else are we going to do if everyone's getting laid off?
18:40Right. If we're all at home, nobody's working.
18:43And I hate to break it to people, this idea and notion that the government can just print money out of nowhere to give us all.
18:53Ask the Weimar Republic, ask Venezuelans even today, that money made of whole cloth and just given to people so that we would have money would create superinflation.
19:08And it just isn't going to work.
19:11We need meaningful, gainful employment where we're making things and we're getting paid for that so that we can afford to buy the things we're making.
19:26And so being IT, the computer programs can write the computer programs now.
19:36There's a lot of that in IT, right?
19:38I need a program to report, I want this, this, and this information out of this related data files.
19:50It may take days for a human to write that program, whereas the AI can write it in minutes.
20:01Exactly.
20:02Yeah, that's true.
20:03And a lot of, like, for example, my dad used to be an engineer.
20:07He's retired now.
20:08But a lot of people that he's known, like, yeah, their jobs are threatened, right?
20:14So, like, a lot of the tech industry right now is thinking, what's going to happen?
20:19Yeah.
20:19What used to take them, as you pointed out, what used to take a person weeks to write?
20:23And, of course, then they're paid and employed during those weeks.
20:27Now you just plug in an AI system and it does it for you.
20:33Now, what were some of the things in your kind of challenge to challenge AI that, hey, anything you write, I can write better?
20:43What are, like, some of the things that you did write as part of this overall concept project of comparison?
20:55Yeah, compare my work versus what chat GPT or whatever may spew out.
21:02Yeah.
21:02Well, part of it was to show that the human computer is just as impressive, hopefully, as, you know, the computers on your screen.
21:12It just takes us a while to type things.
21:14It can.
21:14It can.
21:16So, essentially, I was writing a book a week for most of a year.
21:20So, I ended up with 34 books and I did them in all genres.
21:27And I did release, as I was going through this project, I did release excerpts from the works that I was working on every week.
21:34So, people could get a sampling of the story.
21:38I released the, you know, summary.
21:39And I actually went on a radio show a few months back where the host, who was, you know, very gracious, his radio show was about reading AI stories.
21:52So, he would invite authors onto a show and have them, you know, cold.
21:57They didn't know what they were reading.
21:59And he would have them read it and then ask the authors, what do you think of this AI story?
22:06Which I think is a great concept.
22:07It's funny, right?
22:09So, with my permission, he took some of the summaries of my books and plugged them into AI and then gave me the script to read.
22:17And I knew what I had written for my own books.
22:21And so, then I read them.
22:22And some of them were, you know, they ended up being short.
22:25They weren't book length, obviously.
22:27And some of them were interesting.
22:30Some of them were very odd and didn't really fit what I had written.
22:35But, in the end, it was sort of agreed upon, I guess, by the both of us that, you know, AI won't, isn't matching up right now.
22:43So, AI, the dialogue was sort of stilted.
22:48The human reactions were off.
22:51So, like, you know, someone would die and the other character would laugh.
22:55Which is normally not the reaction you're hoping for in a serious novel.
23:00So, yeah.
23:01So, the reactions were off.
23:03Unless it's the villain laughing.
23:06No, that's true.
23:06Yeah.
23:07If the villain does, maybe you laugh.
23:08It's an evil laugh.
23:10But that's part of knowing the process and the point of saying, not just that he laughed, the evil laugh that makes the point, sets the tone.
23:24So, I think the thing that AI is lacking is that humans are also a mass of contradictions.
23:31So, sometimes, as you pointed out, our reactions aren't, you know, hey, someone dies and the villain laughs.
23:38That's perfectly okay for that kind of character.
23:40So, I don't know how soon AI would be able to mimic those type of authentic human reactions.
23:49And so, I, you know, as I've been telling a lot of people, one reason why I did this project was to actually hopefully inspire.
23:58Because I've talked to a lot of authors when AI came onto the scene and they were getting sort of, especially new writers, were saying, you know, this is sort of depressing.
24:07I've always wanted to write a book and now AI can just do it for me.
24:11Why should I write?
24:11And I'm like, well, you still should because you have a story to tell.
24:15And it's an authentic story from your own experience.
24:18And that cannot be replicated.
24:21And so, I wanted, and several people thought, like, you know, my project was inspiring.
24:25And they're like, you know what?
24:26After hearing what you're doing, I'm going to sit down tomorrow and start writing.
24:29And to me, that is the biggest compliment ever.
24:32That is exactly what I wanted to happen.
24:34Your own personal gratification that comes from knowing, me knowing every word in all of my books are my words.
24:48They came from me.
24:50Well, I like to say often, I'm not that smart.
24:54They come from somewhere and come through me onto the page.
25:00Like, most of my writings over the decades have come through dreams.
25:06And I turn them into a book.
25:09I share that story.
25:12It's like, I'm not that necessarily clever.
25:16So, they're of me and from me.
25:20But really, they're just through me.
25:23Yeah, it often feels like that.
25:26It often feels like the story is just living out through your fingertips.
25:30And you're just the one channeling it.
25:32So, I definitely agree with that point.
25:34Because, not always.
25:37Because, like, writing can be a lot of hard work.
25:38And I've done other careers.
25:41And, you know, I wear a lot of hats.
25:43I'm also an editor.
25:44I'm also a ghost writer.
25:46So, I've, you know, writing can be work.
25:49Especially when you have a deadline around the corner.
25:52But, yeah, when you're just in the midst of creativity and you feel that flow, yes, the story is just there.
25:58And you're just typing it up.
26:00It's already there.
26:00And I'm glad you said that, being a ghost writer.
26:05I have co-authored some things and reached out to others about co-authoring some things.
26:14You know, then it's a collaboration.
26:16And part you, part them.
26:20But, indeed, some people might, indeed, have something.
26:25Like, I've got a few stories in me that I'm just not talented enough to write.
26:31And rather than using AI as the crutch, find another human that you can actually work with and haggle through things and get a real story from another human as a ghost writer.
26:50And in that case, I also consider that cheating at times.
26:55But I understand also at times some ghost writers don't want their names on things.
27:02Whereas other times, like all those O'Reilly, Bill O'Reilly books, right, with James Dugard, the Killing series.
27:15It's him.
27:16It's really James Dugard writing the stories that he thought would be good, right?
27:23So, having both names there, like written by John Doe, a story from John Smith, that then also, to me, is being more honest about what's going on.
27:39Yeah, definitely.
27:42And, yeah, ghost writing is one of those weird sort of professions within publishing that normally you don't talk that much about, right?
27:50Because it is meant to be sort of under the radar.
27:55But it can be – so, one type of ghost writing I do is just, you know, writing everything from scratch.
28:01You know, coming up with the plot, doing every – you know, sending that to the client, and then writing from chapter one to that finished chapter.
28:10But some of the ghost writing that I do is actually what you were mentioning is someone will come to me with sort of a partial draft or, like, maybe a very short draft, like, maybe 30,000 words, something like that, and say, you know what?
28:22I want this to be a book-length work, and I want it to be expanded.
28:25Can you help me?
28:26And so, I call that sort of deep editing because it's more than editing.
28:32It's more than telling the author what to do because you're actually helping them do it, but you're trying to maintain the story that's in their heart and trying to, like, just sort of bring it out onto the page.
28:44And you work very closely with the author in that situation.
28:48You have lots of conversations.
28:49You talk about it.
28:50You send drafts.
28:50You edit.
28:51So, it's, you know, just as much work as writing a book from scratch, but it is definitely their vision, and you're just helping it come out on the page.
29:01Right.
29:01So, that's a lot of fun.
29:03But, again, you've got two humans collaborating.
29:07Exactly.
29:07And you have souls that understand the human condition and the human spirit, unlike the AI that only thinks it understands things based on what data it's mined.
29:23That's true.
29:24And, yeah, there are some evidence of that.
29:28I mean, well, AI also does mimic humans in certain ways.
29:31For example, it lies, which is it takes some of the worst aspects of humanity.
29:36I don't know if you saw.
29:37It's right.
29:37It doesn't pick the good stuff.
29:39It picks the bad stuff.
29:40It picks the bad stuff.
29:42So, for example, there was.
29:43Because it was originally coded to kind of do so by humans who.
29:50That's true.
29:50Put all their baggage into it.
29:53Garbage in, garbage out, as the IT saying goes.
29:58Yeah.
29:59But one of the things, like, I don't know if you saw recently.
30:01It was the Chicago Sun-Times.
30:06And they had come out with the summer reading list for 2025.
30:10Did you hear about this?
30:12Okay.
30:12So, what happened is they had actually subcontracted the article out.
30:17And the person who was writing it actually used AI instead to write this article.
30:24And so, the AI got all the authors right, but it made up the books.
30:31So, these books did not actually exist.
30:33And they published it.
30:34They didn't fact check it.
30:35They didn't do anything.
30:36And, of course, this is a, you know, well-respected newspaper.
30:39They didn't do any of that.
30:40Supposedly, yeah.
30:41Supposedly.
30:41Yeah.
30:41Well, they just published it.
30:44And so, people were like, I would really like to read this book.
30:48I can't find it anywhere.
30:49Like, where are these books?
30:50So, it was like 10 books that were completely made up by AI.
30:55And there had been no screening of it.
30:58Nothing.
30:58So, like, AI lies.
31:00AI makes stuff up.
31:01That reminds me of a story of someone, a teacher that was saying, right, kids, the lack of morals that were like back to the 60s.
31:16If it feels good, do it.
31:18You know, it doesn't matter what it is or how the ends justify the means.
31:26Cheating is okay if it lets me be lazy and get the A, right?
31:32And teachers are calling them in because there are models that identify that AI wrote this.
31:39It can tell often.
31:41And some of them will say, admit, yeah, okay, give me a chance.
31:47I'll actually write the paper.
31:48And a lesson is actually learned there as opposed to those who then, oh, no, I wrote this.
31:57Well, tell me about it.
31:59They can't tell them anything about it because they were even too lazy and too stupid to read what the AI gave them they're turning in.
32:10So, give me a quote.
32:12Well, they can't even paraphrase, let alone give you a quote, because they didn't read it.
32:20No, that's true.
32:21And that is a very worrisome trend among students.
32:24But, I mean, students, again, they'll take the shortcut if they can.
32:27Like a lot of students will.
32:28I mean, at least if they were reading it.
32:30And if AI indeed wasn't feeding a bunch of lies in that case, they might learn something in the process.
32:37But no learning is happening.
32:40That's true.
32:41But even more worrisome to me, at least, as a mom of three kids, a worrisome trend is actually teachers have started using AI in order to do their lesson plans, in order to do questions.
32:53And I know this from personal experience.
32:55For my kids, they've come to me and said, oh, my teacher used AI to generate this list of questions.
33:01It cuts both ways.
33:01Exactly.
33:02So that, to me, is a problem because, and hopefully, you know, the teachers, they're adults, and they can look over what AI produces and hopefully modify it however they want.
33:11But it is worrisome if everyone is taking these shortcuts.
33:16Like our learning curve, they've done studies about since we got cell phones, since we got computers.
33:24Like we're having more problems learning because information is just there.
33:28You can just look it up.
33:29You don't have to remember it.
33:30Our memories are going down, really.
33:34So what does this mean?
33:36Yeah, as an IT guy in my Constitutionalist Politics 2 book, there's a quotations chapter, a couple Joe originals in there.
33:46And one is, I don't have it memorized either, just paraphrasing, right?
33:50Never before in the course of human history have we had facts so readily available at our fingertips.
33:59But conversely, those who wish delusional bubbles have confirmation bias bull readily available to feed their delusion.
34:13Yeah.
34:14The algorithm, right?
34:15The algorithm of every site.
34:18Yeah.
34:19It's such a shame.
34:21Yeah.
34:22I have something else I wanted to say I've forgotten now, too.
34:26But if I don't make a note.
34:29I'm the same way.
34:30I write lists.
34:31I like to write lists at everywhere.
34:33But then, of course, I lose the list and then I forget.
34:38Right.
34:39So as a tool to help research.
34:44Oh, I know what it was.
34:46It was back to what you were saying.
34:48The laziness to not confirm anything like that story.
34:53These books don't actually exist.
34:56In kids in school and whatnot, they don't read any of it to learn anything out of it.
35:03It can be a good research tool, but it can't be your sole crutch.
35:09Because, again, IT-wise, garbage in, garbage out.
35:14If it's data mining garbage, you're going to get garbage.
35:18It's like Wikipedia, right?
35:22Yeah.
35:23Anyone can edit that and put whatever delusion they want in there.
35:29And, oh, IT.
35:30At Twitter, I used to call it twatter to be insulting, right?
35:35I call it today's twatter attention span.
35:38To your point about the studies.
35:41I don't – details matter.
35:44But, no, just give me the headline.
35:47250 characters, even though that could be misleading.
35:52Like a news story.
35:54The headline says one thing, but six paragraphs down, you really get – it's the opposite of what they said in the headline.
36:05Well, part of that is –
36:06But it's the twatter attention span.
36:08No, that's true.
36:09TikTok videos.
36:10Just give me the short version.
36:12I don't want to be bothered with details.
36:15They can't spell thesis, let alone write one that can stand scrutiny.
36:22That's true.
36:22I mean, it's clickbait, right?
36:24Like, and that's what makes money.
36:25So, it's all about the almighty dollar in a lot of ways for that.
36:30Okay.
36:31Well, thank you, Alison McBain.
36:34I didn't do the McBain of my existence joke.
36:38Did you get a chance to hear the Rick Springfield, Alison song that I mentioned?
36:44I did hear that.
36:46And, actually, I hadn't heard that one before, but I did – I get a lot the Elvis Costello, Alison.
36:53Okay.
36:53Yeah, there aren't a whole lot of songs with Alison at the title.
36:59And not necessarily spelled the same.
37:02Alison is one of those kind of names.
37:05It gets creatively written.
37:08No, that's true.
37:09There's multiple ways to spell it.
37:11So, yours is 1-L-A-L-I-S-O-N-M-C-B-A-I-N.
37:21So, to lay that out, because as we just said, people might be putting in Alison.
37:27I can't find her, because they're spelling it wrong.
37:30And I'm sensitive to that, because my last name looks French.
37:35It's not Lenard.
37:37It's Leonard without an O.
37:39It was Leonard Awoskiewiczski or whatever.
37:43Some Polish thing at some time.
37:45It got chopped up.
37:47Right?
37:47So, I'm sensitive to the whole name thing.
37:52Exactly.
37:53Yeah.
37:53Thank you for joining us today.
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37:57God bless.
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