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What is the point of security guarantees for Ukraine? Alessandro Minuto-Rizzo, Former Secretary General of NATO, offers his perspective.
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00:00We gather that the Ukrainian president is going to be meeting the NATO Secretary General and also the leaders of Germany and the United Kingdom in Paris on Thursday.
00:10I think everyone knows that security guarantees are going to be the key topic of discussion.
00:16I mean, what's the point of those security guarantees? What's your understanding?
00:21Well, you know, on the one hand, you're right, saying this is a central point.
00:30On the other hand, in a diplomatic experience, you know, it's very complicated to have guarantees before an agreement.
00:40Usually you have an agreement and in the meanwhile you discuss the guarantees.
00:45We don't know really, in fact, what will be the endgame of this war.
00:49So to discuss, you know, if you send troops there or not is extremely, I can say, complicated on the one hand.
00:59On the other, I don't want to be nasty in any way because I understand exactly all the difficulties of this crucial moment.
01:09But on the other hand, it may also look like, you know, you avoid the real issue because the real issue is the conditions under which you can have a peace there, which means territory, land.
01:22Use of the Russian language, the Russian church in Ukraine, and the new government, things of this kind, you know.
01:33These things have not been touched up today.
01:35This is very important, you know.
01:37So I'm not sure that the, if you want me to develop that, to be sure that the meeting in Paris is symbolically important.
01:44I agree on that.
01:46But, you know, the fact that you have, think about that, you know, in a technical way, to have a European sort of army somewhere in the middle of Ukraine,
01:57and even you have to, even logistically, to sustain that over time, and then what, you know, if you have a, really, an hypothetical Russian aggression in a few years, then what, then what?
02:11Then this kind of force should fight the Russians.
02:15It looks to be a very, a very complicated thing that I'm not sure will see the light of the day in the end.
02:21Also because the Russians, I don't think they would agree on this.
02:24I don't think they would agree on this.
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