00:00And you know what? Trump, everything aside, sometimes give you these nuggets of information
00:06that usually don't come your way. And when he says that Putin and Zelensky cannot stand each other
00:12and hate each other, that does bring us to that issue that when two leaders of two nations who
00:19are at war, when there is no personal chemistry between them, when there is intense dislike
00:25between them, it becomes even more significant that a country that has been able to maintain
00:30cordial relationship with one and a friendly contact with another brings them together.
00:37So, you know, talking about this importance of India's role in possibly trying to bring some
00:44peace in that region, do tell us more about it, because we have seen that there has been
00:51a little bit of, you know, Ukraine's not been very open about how it wants to go ahead
00:57with the peace proposal. Putin also has been very adamant on the land issue, how much are
01:05they going to give in, how much they want. And EU, recently after Putin's, Russia's attacks
01:11on Kyiv, has also become extremely hostile. Well, we are getting these visuals now. Gaurav,
01:20I would like to inform you, right now we are getting the visuals of the minute when Prime
01:25Minister Modi walked in to this reception. He shook hands with the President and his wife
01:31as well, posed for the photograph. And once again, after shaking hands, he went ahead to the reception.
01:39So those were the visuals of the Prime Minister walking in for that reception that we were
01:44talking about. This is an informal occasion for the heads of states to meet and mingle.
01:51And you never know what comes out of these informal occasions. But Gaurav continues to be with us.
01:57Gaurav, picking up that, you know, thought that I was delving into, how important would the
02:03SEO be? And also, we have invited Xi Jinping to BRICS. Now, BRICS is something Trump keeps targeting
02:11again and again. So these regional summits that we have, how important are these? And now, with
02:18there being a possibility of Trump not coming to court, how important these regional summits become?
02:26So as far as India is concerned, India takes BRICS very seriously, India takes SEO very seriously and
02:36India takes, you know, even the Quad very seriously. Though not, you know, none of these are military
02:42groupings. BRICS is an economic grouping. These were the world's most powerful economies that were
02:48coming together. Different parts of the world, Brazil, Russia, India, China and then later South Africa.
02:56joined and then other countries want to join. And now there's a long list of countries who want to
03:00join the BRICS as a grouping. And that just shows how important and powerful BRICS as a grouping is.
03:06America, because there was some conversation about de-dollarization and India has repeatedly
03:12insisted that India is not on board on de-dollarization. So that project is not moving forward because
03:17every decision has to be by consensus and every founding member has equal say in every decision.
03:23So similarly, when Pakistan wanted to be a part of BRICS, it was very effectively vetoed because you
03:29don't want a state sponsor of radical Islamist terror to be a part of the world's fastest growing
03:35economies coming together and talking about the betterment of their region, their countries and
03:42the world in general. So this BRICS grouping becomes all the more important right now when you're talking
03:47about standing up to Trump's tariff tyranny. And this is where you see BRICS will play a significant
03:53role. Prime Minister Narendra Modi has invited the Chinese president to visit India for next year.
04:00India will be hosting the BRICS summit. But then this year, India is also hosting the Quad summit.
04:05And will President Donald Trump finally come or will he back out or will he back off from here?
04:11It remains to be seen because both Japan and India have adopted a very principled stance on Donald
04:18Trump and on his tariffs. Donald Trump, of course, has a different readout of what happened. Japan
04:23has a different readout of what transpired between the two. But the fact remains, if two of the four
04:29partners are not seeing eye to eye with the United States of America, India would still want this
04:34relationship to move forward. Because India anyway considers Trump's actions as wrong, unnecessary,
04:42arbitrary and completely uncalled for. And India has done nothing that should have that kind of a
04:49response. So is it more to do with Donald Trump on Russia war or Donald Trump not being recommended
04:56for a Nobel Peace Prize or India saying he had a big role to play in the ceasefire when he didn't have
05:02a role to play? Or should India have worded it differently saying that, yeah, he had a role to
05:07play in getting Pakistan to back off? There are many issues, you know, that that can be argued. But
05:11the fact remains, India does not believe in kowtowing, you know, either to America or to China or to
05:18anybody else. India is standing tall. There will be, as the Prime Minister said, there will be
05:23repercussions, there will be ramifications. He said he'll have personal costs to pay for it. But he's willing
05:28to pay that cost for not, you know, kowtowing to America or not doing a sajda to the United States
05:34of America, which clearly India is not. And, you know, on the other question that you raised,
05:40between Russia and Ukraine, frankly, when Prime Minister Narendra Modi had that five-hour long
05:46discussion with Vladimir Putin, he'd made it very clear. And at SCO earlier also that this is not an
05:51era of war. President Putin also understands that. He says, President Putin apparently is of the
05:58opinion that Ukrainian president within the first week of the special operations in February 2022
06:02had come to the conclusion that this conflict was unnecessary in Turkey. And it was a Turkey-Turkey
06:09mediated effort. He had agreed to sign a ceasefire, but Britain had stepped in and said, don't sign a
06:14ceasefire. And Boris Johnson had then gone to Kiev. And this war kept lingering on. So it was basically
06:20President Putin's impression is that it's Europe and America that were fueling this war using Ukraine
06:27as an excuse. Is that what is happening even now is the big question. And can India then prevail to
06:34ensure that Russia and Ukraine talk to each other and decide a way forward? It does appear extremely
06:41different. Why? Because one fact is clear, Russia will not cede any territory that it's gained with a
06:47loss of a lot of lives in this war. So that is why, unless Ukraine decides to cede territory,
06:54this war will either end up being endless or there will have to be a change of government,
06:59at least in Ukraine.
07:01Right. And this war has impacted many. It has impacted many economies as well. A loss of life
07:07is, of course, the biggest issue. But after that is also economies. It pushed up inflation in many
07:14countries. It pushed up living costs in many countries. And every time winter comes, it becomes
07:20a huge issue. But Europe, it seems to be now finding other sources of energy as well. But
07:26energy is also something that is a big issue in this war.
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