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In this episode of 5Live, the focus is on the bonhomie between Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping at the 25th Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit held in Tianjin.
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00:00Hi there, I'm Sonal Mehrotra Kapoor. This is 5 Live. Over the next one hour, we will bring you five stories that demand your time, five stories that should ignite you, five stories that should inspire you for your healthiest, happiest life. So stop scrolling and let's get started.
00:18On the program, first up, we've got the RIC Bonhomi at the SEO Summit. Too many acronyms, what exactly does that mean? Now, Russia, India, China, they are together like never before. There are lots of videos, lots of handshakes, lots of ignores as well. What does each of them really mean? We'll decode all of that on the program.
00:43Then we get down to decoding the body language. What was the messaging behind that, you know, finger pointing that happened, behind those laughs, behind that shared selfie as well. We'll decode that with the body language expert on the program.
00:59On the health story today, we look at the invisible enemy of Delhi. And if you thought that air pollution was a problem only for the winter, think again, because summer and shockingly even monsoon are now not livable.
01:17The reason for that, microplastics. We'll tell you all about that on the program.
01:23Also coming up at Five Live, gold has hit an all-time high, rupee at an all-time low. What should you do? Wait up or will Diwali bring in some relief? We look at that.
01:36Also coming up on a trend check at Five Live, who's the trad wife? The desirable new ideal?
01:43Or is this throwing feminists into a whirlpool all over again? We look at that story.
01:49Quite the power picture there, right? The power league. That's in the making.
02:11RIC, the Russia-India-China Trio, has captured the world's attention.
02:16Their display of Bonhomi at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization Summit is now making global headlines.
02:23It was so much about the optics. The pictures that speak a thousand words, really.
02:28Prime Minister Modi, President Putin, President Xi Jinping shared warm handshakes.
02:33There was laughter, but there was also clear message of unity and rising global tensions.
02:40After seven years, Modi and Xi Jinping signaled a reset in the India-China relationship, emphasizing peace and cooperation.
02:49Xi also proposed expanding the SCO's focus beyond security to even economic development.
02:56That's critical, remember.
02:57Unveiling a new development bank as well, aimed at challenging Western financial dominance.
03:03Both Xi and Putin also condemned Cold War mentalities and Western sanctions, advocating for a multipolar world order.
03:13A clear message for you-know-who.
03:16Now, Prime Minister Modi is growing closeness with Putin.
03:19Xi comes at a time of escalating friction with the United States, following steep tariffs on Indian exports as well.
03:26That's going to hurt us real bad.
03:27But this strategic alignment within RIC signals a recalibration of global power dynamics and positions the SCO as a growing force is shaping the future world order.
03:42But this is more than just messaging.
03:45What RIC, what can it really do?
03:49What do all these three countries tend to gain or perhaps lose by coming together?
03:54The next report we'll explore.
04:00The Russia-India-China Bonhomi on show at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization Summit in Tianjin.
04:09Against the backdrop of trade tensions and Donald Trump's tariffs, the meet sent out a strong message to Washington.
04:16Even as the Trump administration targets India for its ties with Russia, the bond between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and President Vladimir Putin is only growing stronger.
04:29From formal photo ops to casual carpooling, the two leaders showcased a friendship that's more than just diplomatic protocol.
04:38But not everyone was amused.
04:42Some watched the camaraderie with a skeptical eye.
04:45In one of the videos going viral from the summit, Pakistan Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif was seen looking on with a grim expression.
04:52Prime Minister Modi has extended an invitation to President Putin and called for renewed peace efforts to resolve the Ukraine crisis.
05:22President Putin said ties between India and Russia are strong.
05:52The Russia-India-China trio is emerging as a powerful alternative on the global stage.
06:10Not to challenge the West directly, but to offer new options for the world.
06:15With Gaurav Savant reporting from China, Bureau Report, India Today.
06:20All right, and Gaurav Savant has been covering that entire summit and joins us live now from China.
06:29Gaurav, what an exciting time to be covering an SEO summit.
06:33What an iconic summit nonetheless.
06:36It will go down in history as one of those most talked about for different reasons, of course.
06:40But the question, however, is that how much of this is just optics?
06:46How much of it was just messaging?
06:50How much of it was just to sort of let Donald Trump know?
06:55And how much of it will actually translate into action on ground?
07:00Will we be able to look past our differences with China, look past our uncomfort or sort of discomfort with Russia and actually get down to doing some concrete business?
07:12So, let's split this. That's a very interesting question.
07:19And, you know, let's split this on two fronts.
07:21Let's talk about India-Russia.
07:23India-Russia is a time-tested partnership.
07:26It's held India in great stead in the past and over several decades.
07:30You know, it's a time-tested partnership.
07:32So, there when you see the bonhomie between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and the Russian President Vladimir Putin,
07:37the fact that they walked hand in hand, the fact that they hugged, the fact that President Putin waited in his car for Prime Minister Narendra Modi to come.
07:45And in the car, they had a conversation for about 40 minutes before that 45-minute long bilateral that they had with their respective teams.
07:53All of that indicates a very strong partnership and that goes way beyond optics.
07:59Yes, the optics are all there.
08:00And yes, the optics are all intended to send out a signal to America that was very clearly trying to browbeat India
08:08to pull back from this very warm strategic partnership that India and Russia have,
08:13including telling India not to buy oil from Russia.
08:16All of that can also be done, could have been done quietly.
08:19And, you know, when there's quiet diplomacy, solutions are found.
08:22But when there's public diplomacy and the manner in which President Trump called India a dead economy
08:27at a time when we are growing at 7.8%, this fiscal, it just sends out very clear signals that America is trying to bully India.
08:35And can you imagine, you or I, you know, part of a 1.4 billion strong India getting bullied by America?
08:43Clearly not happening.
08:44And that message went out from Tianjin today.
08:47Of course, government sources have told us, you know, right from the time that America had started bullying India,
08:51there is no way India will buckle under American pressure.
08:53Remember, India's ambassador to Russia had also made it very clear.
08:57That's India's sovereign decision and decision of Indian businesses.
09:01Whether they want oil from Russia or they don't want to buy oil from Russia, it depends on prices.
09:06Now, let's come to China.
09:08Very tricky, very difficult, trying to move forward in a situation that you've had multiple false starts
09:15and you have been stabbed in the back repeatedly.
09:17And yet, there is no alternative but to start once again.
09:22Because in case there will be these 25% additional tariffs from the United States of America,
09:27you will have to mitigate that challenge elsewhere.
09:30You need fertilizer.
09:31You need those tunnel boring machines.
09:33You need a market for your surplus.
09:36And China needs a market for it.
09:38So, if there is a win-win in this, keeping your guard up at the borders.
09:43Because with China, experience has taught India.
09:46And Sonal, you know that better than anyone else.
09:48You know, this is something that India Today, at India Today, we've covered for very long.
09:53Each time there was a Chinese visit to India or an Indian visit to China,
09:57Chinese troops would carry out an incursion at the LAC.
10:00So, there will be a dual message from China.
10:03Sweet words from China, but unfortunate harsh action on ground.
10:06Now, all of that is changing.
10:08You have your troops on ground and you're starting afresh with both countries wanting to start afresh.
10:13Let's see if that works out.
10:15If it does, it's win-win for both.
10:17If it doesn't, then it's another lesson learned.
10:19It is.
10:20But can I throw like a real googly at you, Gaurav, to try and understand this?
10:24We know Trump is known to change his mind.
10:26We don't know what he'll wake up with tonight, like late night for us.
10:30And perhaps there's a change in heart, there's a change in mind.
10:33In a situation like that, where does that leave RIC?
10:37And are leaders fully aware that the headlines that we are waking up to now could totally flip the next day?
10:50Well, if they do, then India will have Ladoo in both our hands.
10:53And at the same time, it's not as if we are having one relationship at the cost of another relationship.
11:00What is India's policy?
11:01India's stated policy is multi-alignment.
11:05It's not as if we are a part of the Russian camp or we are a part of the American camp.
11:09We are not.
11:10We are in India's camp and India's camp is India first.
11:15That's very clear stated policy.
11:16So, as long as our interests and the American interests marry, you know, and meet, we move forward with them.
11:23When they don't, then we have our own path.
11:25They have their own path.
11:26With Russia, it's a time-tested relationship.
11:29It's a different story.
11:30And that is why when you have, you know, so for example, I'll give you a small example, which has massive ramifications.
11:36Nuclear submarine.
11:38No country would be willing to share that kind of technology details or lease their own nuclear submarine.
11:44Russia did.
11:44And that's how we are moving forward in that direction.
11:47The S-400 system, it's held India in great stead during the recent Operation Sindur when a Pakistani AVAX was down 325 kilometers away in an offensive role for a defensive air defense system.
11:58That just shows how well India and Russia are tuned and that just shows how good our Indian Air Force is.
12:03Look at with China, you know, the message that goes out is we want good relations with you.
12:09China wants good relations with America.
12:10It's not an anti-America or an anti-Europe bloc.
12:13Everyone wants to make money.
12:14If everyone can make money together for their countries, it's a great idea.
12:18But if anyone's going to talk down to the other person, India says that's unacceptable.
12:23It's not an anti-America bloc.
12:26I think that's the headline that I'm taking away from what Gaurav has said.
12:30Gaurav, safe travels to you as we see you back here very soon.
12:33The Prime Minister has already taken off from China, we believe.
12:36Thanks so much for joining us and for that, you know, round-the-clock coverage as well.
12:40Pranay is also with us.
12:41Pranay, while you look at everything that's unfolding there, and like I keep saying, what a fascinating time, really.
12:47Can we go to some of the lighter moments there as well?
12:50We saw a carpooling happening.
12:52We saw some selfies happening.
12:55We saw very strategic pull-asides while the cameras were placed happening.
13:00So, and help me understand this, every time a pull-aside happens, or it's, to a viewer, it looks like, oh, they just caught up and they shook hands.
13:09That's not the case, right?
13:11A lot of diplomacy has gone behind all of this.
13:15That who will approach?
13:17How will the handshake happen?
13:19Will they sit down?
13:20That the carpool will take place?
13:22None of this is just spontaneous.
13:24All of this is scripted.
13:27But often it happens, Sonal, that, you know, and after having covered diplomacy for a long period of time and having witnessed these moments, there are certain raw moments as well.
13:36Even leaders are humans.
13:37They also are often bound by the protocol and they want to break protocol as well.
13:41And if you can see those visuals, like, you know, how President Xi Jinping, President Putin and Prime Minister Modi went into huddle that even their translator found it difficult to button in how to get closer to their leaders.
13:52What are they talking about?
13:53And they shouldn't be lost in translation.
13:55There shouldn't be something, you know, which they should miss.
13:58So, those are the visuals.
13:59Those are the moments, you know, which we get to see in informal moments during the banquet, during the, like, you know, when they walk the hallway.
14:08So, those are the moments that if you see closely, definitely there is a messaging.
14:13These leaders know the cameras much better than us.
14:16So, they know when to pose, how to pose, what to show, what not to show.
14:21But having said that, still there are certain moments where they also show the raw, you know, side of their personality.
14:28And if you see in the gesture, in the body language, because all this matters a lot, especially in these moments.
14:36So, see, President Donald Trump, sorry, President Putin, Prime Minister Narendra Modi, see how they are talking, how close they are standing.
14:45And these are the things which one should notice that what they must be talking about.
14:51You know, I'm not a lip reading expert.
14:54So, I can't tell you that what exactly they were discussing.
14:56But definitely, the hand gestures, the kind of, you know, warmth, the proximity they are maintaining.
15:03Definitely, this is something.
15:04They want to give a message.
15:06And, you know, if you see this one picture today from Tianjin, of these three leaders, one Hindi caption would be most apt, especially, you know, with all pun intended to Mr. Donald Trump,
15:17So, that kind of thing is there, because, you know, everyone has its own messaging.
15:24If you see President Xi Jinping, he wanted to show that, look, we are the alternate emerging poll.
15:30We are the one who have organized this big diplomatic event.
15:33And also, two days after, we will be having our mighty military parade in Beijing.
15:38For that, many world leaders are coming down to Beijing.
15:40So, we are the alternative new emerging poll.
15:43On the other side, President Vladimir Putin was enjoying and he was, you know, he was actually enjoying this moment that the world, which on one moment of time, wanted to alienate, you know, wanted to make him untouchable, so-called international criminal court.
15:58And now everybody is rushing out, reaching out to him.
16:00So, we are going to shake hands with him and see Prime Minister Narendra Modi also, he is having, you know, a benefit of both the worlds.
16:07On one side, he just recently went to Japan.
16:11He has been invited by the G7.
16:13So, we have good relation in West as well as in East.
16:17But definitely, it was East versus West.
16:19So, this is how one can read these visuals.
16:22Yeah.
16:22You had a Hindi phrase.
16:24I have one for you also, Pranay.
16:25Heard of that song, Mera Juta Hai Japani.
16:28And it goes on to say, Sarpeer Lal Topi Rusi.
16:33Fir bhi Dil Hai Hindustani.
16:34Fir bhi Dil Hai Hindustani.
16:35I think that's the song for this SEO summit.
16:38However, China doesn't feature that.
16:40Let me just say, it doesn't feature even in that song.
16:44But my question is this, Pranay.
16:46You know, we've heard a couple of reports in the past couple of days by international papers coming out to say that there was some phone call that was trying to be, that was to be established between Donald Trump and Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
17:01That could not happen.
17:02I know the MEA has gone ahead to say that there is, has denied this, has said that this never even took place.
17:09But the Western world has caught up to it.
17:11Is this, as of this moment, do we have any idea of how United States is responding to RIC?
17:21So, let me start my answer with the famous phrase of Lord Palmerstone, who was the British Prime Minister and who once said that there are no permanent enemies.
17:31There are no perpetual friends.
17:33There are only permanent and perpetual interest for every country.
17:37But, you know, in this context, President Donald Trump or United States also knows that this is not for the first time this RIC grouping has met.
17:46Definitely, they did meet after a long period of time.
17:50And after that, like, you know, the last picture of this RIC or RIC meeting took place in December 2018 in Buenos Aires on the sidelines of the G20.
18:00After that, there was a Jai meeting.
18:03Jai meeting as in President Donald Trump was there and Prime Minister Shinzo Abeba was the Prime Minister of Japan.
18:10At that point of time, there was a meeting of U.S., of Japan, America and India and that was acronymed as Jai.
18:17So now, you know, now again there is a picture of RIC.
18:22We are yet to see that how these countries want to take it forward.
18:26But definitely in terms of messaging, it is important.
18:30All right.
18:31Pranay, we've spoken about everything that's happening diplomatically.
18:35But let's speak about some visuals which are telling a very different story.
18:40Right.
18:41Now, let's look at a couple of visuals that we have taken out for our viewers.
18:45But remember the context here.
18:47Let's quickly tell that as well.
18:48Now, in a world that is split between East and West, India is walking a very tight rope, a very tight diplomatic rope.
18:58The SEO summit in China's engine is witnessing a rare-born homie, like we said.
19:03But we are also, are we missing something in between of these handshakes, in the laughs, in the hugs?
19:10Often, a body language tells us the real story of what's really going on.
19:14So, we pulled out the five most talked about moments, the top five moments from SEO.
19:22And then we'll decode how it actually phased out for everybody.
19:27Let's play out video number one.
19:29All right.
19:35So, that's video number one.
19:37In that, what do you see?
19:38It's the one that will be the headlines in your papers, will be the big picture in your papers tomorrow morning.
19:44It's what West is also capturing.
19:47It's Prime Minister Modi, President Putin, President Xi Jinping.
19:50Also, all of them sharing smiles.
19:53We've got a lot of finger pointing, making a point, very casual conversation as well.
20:00So, what's really happening there?
20:01And I'm told we have a body language expert with us on the phone line as well to try and understand and decode this.
20:10So, can I get a confirmation if we have him?
20:15Yes, I'm there.
20:16Very much there.
20:17Oh, great.
20:18Great.
20:18Great to have you, sir.
20:19If you can see that first visual over there.
20:23And I just want our viewers also to take it in for a minute.
20:27They walk in and then there are a lot of translators, of course, all around them.
20:31They're trying to understand.
20:32But it looks like for most of the time that they don't need translators.
20:37A lot of communication is happening directly as well.
20:40Is that what you are noticing here as well?
20:42Because in this meeting, Modi ji rarely laughs that loudly in India.
20:51If you may agree with me on that, that wide laugh and the finger gestures and trying to convince Mr. Jinping of a joke.
21:02Now, here, Mr. Putin is definitely taken in by the joke.
21:06And he also extends his hand, like in confirmation.
21:10And he's trying to explain the joke to Jinping through translators who bent forward.
21:16But Jinping is not, you know, smiling.
21:19When you smile, your pupils dilate.
21:23Of course, we are seeing this picture from a little side angle.
21:26And therefore, we are not able to, because during the last moment of the joke, some person comes in between.
21:32So, unless I'm missing that, apart from that, I don't see any much.
21:36So, when you're lunging forward, when you're interested in a joke or something, your body moves forward.
21:42So, that is missing.
21:43But as far as Mr. Modi is concerned, I think he's pulled up.
21:47He is concerned because considering the immense strain relations with China in the recent past,
21:56especially after we came to know that they have a role in the Pahalgam attacks in financing Pakistan.
22:02So, after that, to cut off this kind of body language and also be smiling, laughing, I think it's very good.
22:10But the Chinese are very sharp, strong nuts to crack.
22:13It's not so easy.
22:15And you're true that Jinping doesn't smile often.
22:19You have to see the characteristics of a person and his profile for a sufficiently long time.
22:24But if I might remind you, during his initial days when Mr. Modi visited China,
22:29when he was at the museum and he was visiting their religious places and also inspecting the statues,
22:36peeling the textures of the soldiers, you know, the relationship that time was very good.
22:42And even when he came to Gujarat, he was sitting on the swing and spinning the charkha.
22:47That kind of body language, if you would like to compare it with today's just short meeting,
22:52I would say there is a lot of difference for a body language expert.
22:56Hold on, hold on to what you're saying because I want to move in very quickly to the next video as well.
23:02And let's play that out for our viewers.
23:04Video number two, and this one is interesting because this is the Prime Minister shaking hands
23:10with Xi Jinping and his wife.
23:13We'll immediately compare now how this handshake happened versus how it was with President Putin.
23:21So quickly, your notes first on what's happening here.
23:27This particular picture, Mr. Modi, from a distance of four feet, about four feet,
23:32he extends his hand forward, which is again a very positive language.
23:37But the time where the handshake is there is...
23:43...compared to the 13-second handshake with Putin.
23:47And here it's very formal, it's like you would do, a diplomat would do on a world stage,
23:52exchanging just polite smiles, no grinning of teeth, etc.
23:56With Putin, the thing is very different.
23:59Because when he meets Mr. Putin...
24:00Sir Kapil, one second, we'll go to the Putin picture in just a minute.
24:04I want to quickly bring in Pranay as well and get his understanding.
24:07Pranay, to be honest, there were two handshakes that happened.
24:11This is the official one, and there was one where he met him during the bilateral ride.
24:16I found that was also very interesting.
24:22We saw, A, the Prime Minister come out in all white, like the messenger of peace, if one can call him that.
24:27He came out in all white, he came in, he shook his hand,
24:31and while you saw the Chinese Premier being very matter-of-fact,
24:38one could see that there was a lot of keenness to make it work from our end.
24:44Is that a fair analysis?
24:45Definitely, Sunil.
24:46And if you have noticed that white attire, you would have also noticed the Seferin pocket chief he was holding.
24:54So, definitely, there was a different warmth.
24:57Here, what we are witnessing right now is a formal event.
25:00You know, it's like he is welcoming all the other leaders as well,
25:03so that there is a paucity of time, and, you know, this is a very brief moment,
25:09and ultimately, President Putin also, President Xi Jinping also joins the banquet.
25:15So, you know, one should not read too much into the, you know, the brevity of this moment, or the handshake here.
25:23Right, let's also move on to the next one then, and let's bring out the third video that we've picked out for our viewers today to analyze,
25:34and this is the one where Prime Minister Modi meets President Putin.
25:39Okay, there you go.
25:41Very warm, a lot of handshakes.
25:43In fact, this is not the only time they met.
25:45There is a lot that happened before, after.
25:48Look at the repeated handshake that's happening.
25:50It's firm.
25:51It's letting the world know as well, and there are smiles that go here to here.
25:57Let me bring on our guest as well to try and see how this is to be decoded.
26:03Anupam Kapil, go ahead.
26:04What were your observations here?
26:06Pretty long handshake.
26:08It's about 13 seconds, and Mr. Modi's left foot is pointing to Mr. Putin, who's standing absolutely straight.
26:15It shows that Mr. Modi is very much interested and eager to further this friendship.
26:20He's smiling.
26:20He's excited.
26:22So, I feel that Mr. Putin is looking straight, and there's not much to give away,
26:28because even Mr. Putin is not a very expressive person.
26:33If you see what happened in Alaska with Trump, there's not much.
26:37I mean, it's very formal.
26:39You know, these people know how to hide their...
26:42Right.
26:47Pranay, comparison between the handshake between Russia and China, a comparison for you?
26:56Different gestures, but definitely there was a warmth being expressed by the host.
27:02Here, Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who was meeting President Vladimir Putin,
27:07if you see the gesture, like, you know, he was holding President Xi Jinping's hand closer to his body.
27:14So, definitely there was an eagerness, there was an attempt to show that warmth.
27:19And we have seen the hug pictures of Prime Minister Modi and President Putin as well from the SCO summit venue.
27:26And we have seen that whenever Prime Minister Modi and President Putin met, be it in Moscow, be it in any other place,
27:33be it in New Delhi, there had been a warm hug.
27:36And there was an exchange of presentry between both these leaders and the mutual admiration as well.
27:42But as Kapil was pointing it out that one should not forget that he was meeting an ex-KGB agent.
27:47So, President Putin knows how to, you know, conduct and how to hide his emotions as well.
27:53But here, you could see him smiling as he also mentioned during his conversation with Prime Minister Modi.
27:58But talking about hiding emotions, let's go to the next video where a lot of emotions did not go hidden at all.
28:04Let's play out the next video of the video and a zoom-in that has been caught of the Pakistan Prime Minister, Shehbar Sharif.
28:15And his expression as he sees Prime Minister Modi and President Putin walking by.
28:21There's a zoomed-in version of this picture as well that speaks a thousand words really.
28:25But go ahead, Pranay, very quickly on what did you make of this one?
28:27Obviously, he must be looking at what might be transpiring between President Putin and Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
28:34Because whenever India-Russia comes together, you have products like Brahmos or S-400.
28:40So, definitely Pakistan has many reasons to be concerned and worry about.
28:44And we have also seen those pictures where, you know, Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif walked up to,
28:49he almost like rushed to shake hands with President Putin.
28:52Also, during the banquet, the way he went up to President Putin, held his hand and, you know,
28:58he wanted to show that extra warmth to President Putin.
29:02Yeah, yeah.
29:03Alright, let's move on to the last one.
29:05And this, I really want to understand, how did the diplomats react, if you have any insight, Pranay, on this one.
29:10These things don't happen randomly.
29:13Taking a random car ride with another world leader, that has to be orchestrated.
29:17I'm sure there were some conversations that happened behind the scenes here.
29:20I'm sure there was a camera place to capture this precise moment as well.
29:24So, tell me what's happening.
29:26Sunil, let me tell you with this thing, that, you know, from my sources there,
29:30I got to learn that this happened actually impromptu.
29:34President Vladimir Putin and Prime Minister Narendra Modi were scheduled to meet in the Red Skaten Hotel in Tanzan.
29:39And they were supposed to go for that meeting.
29:43But President Putin decided to stay back.
29:46He waited for Prime Minister Narendra Modi for a good 10 minutes.
29:48And he offered Prime Minister Narendra Modi and said that,
29:51why don't you come with me if we are going to the same place?
29:53Then they travelled together and that conversation was unscheduled conversation
29:57that lasted for a good 50 minutes, even after when they reached the Red Skaten Hotel.
30:01Long, you know, conversation they had during, in the car.
30:06And this is the ORAS car, the Russia made car,
30:08which was given to President Putin by the Chinese side for this, for his, you know, stay there.
30:14And he offered Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
30:15And Radeh has a fun story that the car actually that was given for Prime Minister Modi
30:18was actually made in China.
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30:25Delhi's toxic air isn't just a winter problem.
30:29If you thought it was limited to a few months, well, think again.
30:33A new study reveals that a hidden threat lurking in the skies, known as microplastics,
30:40that's what's causing our air to be really polluted, not just in winter,
30:45but in summers and shockingly in monsoon as well.
30:48These tiny plastic particles, invisible to the naked eye,
30:52are now present all year round, even during the monsoon.
30:56They're hitching rides on dust, wind, pollution, right into our lungs and different body parts.
31:01Experts are saying Delhiites inhale thousands of microplastic particles every year.
31:07And what exactly is the reason for this silent invasion?
31:10What can we do to stop it from happening?
31:12And what exactly happens when this plastic enters our body?
31:17Take a look at this next report.
31:18We are so used to this, this thick, choking smog that engulfs Delhi every winter.
31:37The kind that turns sun into a faint orange blur makes your eyes and throat burn
31:44and sends AQI reading into the red zone.
31:50But now, environment observers are surprised at how bad the air quality is,
31:57even in the summer and shockingly during the monsoon too.
32:01According to data from the Central Pollution Control Board, the CPCB,
32:06Delhi's average AQI in May of 2024 was 223.
32:12In June, it was 179.
32:14Both well into the moderate to poor category.
32:18And monsoon?
32:19Well, that isn't much clearer either.
32:22July averaged at 96, August at 72.
32:26Barely straddling the satisfactory air quality.
32:29Shocking, right?
32:32This is far from what the WHO recommends.
32:35The limit there is just 50 for your lungs and your body to seem easy.
32:41So what's the reason?
32:43Microplastics.
32:45Microplastics, the tiny plastic particles less than 5 mm in size.
32:51We have heard of them in spreading through our oceans.
32:54But a latest study conducted by scientists from the Indian Institute of Tropical Meteorology in Pune
33:00took samples in the summer and winter months.
33:04And what they found was a total of 2,087 microplastics across all particulate samples.
33:11And we shouldn't be surprised.
33:16Plastic production has grown from 1.5 million tons in 1950s to 403 million tons in 2022.
33:24The increased manufacture of single-use plastics has led to the rise in garbage found in terrestrial
33:30and aquatic habitats due to inefficient waste management.
33:36The thing with microplastics is, these particles are so small that they can easily become airborne,
33:44hitching a ride on dust, vehicle emissions or even the wind.
33:48Such has been their infiltration in our surroundings that they are found in human brains, in placentas
33:55and even in the bellies of fish deep in the ocean.
34:05You might think of summer as a time of clearer skies.
34:09But in Delhi, it's the opposite.
34:11Intense heat breaks down large plastic debris into smaller microplastics,
34:17increasing their concentration in the air.
34:20Warmer weather means more people are outside,
34:22leading to higher inhalation rates of airborne particles.
34:26Summer winds can carry microplastics from industrial areas
34:30and landfills into urban centres, spreading pollution over wider areas.
34:36You'd think monsoon would wash away pollutants,
34:39but instead, it can spread then further.
34:42Rain water, while it may remove some surface dust,
34:45it can also re-suspend microplastics,
34:48carrying them into water bodies and even back into the air.
34:52Storm water can pick up microplastics from roads,
34:55construction sites and waste dumps,
34:57redistributing them across the city.
35:00Though no safe threshold for inhaling microplastics has been established,
35:05the study warned that constant exposure
35:07to these tiny materials could lead to increased case of bronchitis,
35:12pneumonia, lung inflammation and even cancer.
35:18Delhi's microplastic exposure is concerning.
35:22Adults inhale between 5.3 to 15.4 microplastic particles daily.
35:27This translates to 1,935 to 5,621 particles per year.
35:35In comparison, this is higher than even cities like Mexico City,
35:40but lower than indoor exposure levels in places like Scotland.
35:44This is why this needs attention.
35:50Microplastics are often overlooked in pollution discussions,
35:53but their pervasive presence and potential health risks
35:57make them a critical issue.
35:59So, what's the bottom line here?
36:04Well, Delhi's air quality isn't just a winter problem.
36:08Delhi had 209 days in 2024,
36:12where AQI was just below 200.
36:14It's best count since 2018,
36:17outside the COVID year, remember.
36:19But still, it had no good air days.
36:23No air day which was under the WHO limit.
36:26Microplastics are making every season hazardous.
36:30It's time we recognize this invisible threat
36:33and take collective action
36:34to protect our health and our environment.
36:38Sonal Merotra Kapoor for India Today.
36:40So, what's happening here?
36:43What do the presence of microplastics in our body do to us?
36:49And also, how can we limit it in the environment?
36:52We've got Vimreen Tujha join us
36:53from the environmental side
36:55to sort of give us an overview
36:58of how to actually control this.
37:00And also with us, Dr. J.C. Khilnani.
37:02He's the chairman of the PSRI Institute of Parliamentary.
37:05Let me come to you, Dr. Khilnani, first.
37:08What exactly is happening to our bodies
37:12when these microplastics enter?
37:15I was watching a report by NYT earlier this week
37:18where they said that
37:20even when they were picking up breast milk samples,
37:24they were picking up placenta samples,
37:26they were picking up a lot of other things,
37:29the person who was doing the entire detailed report said
37:34now it's a given that microplastics
37:37are going to be found in each part of our body.
37:40So, Avi, should we be scared?
37:42Should we be worried?
37:44What is the way to limit this?
37:47So, Sonal, we are actually terrified,
37:49not scared, but it's nothing new that we did not know.
37:53This study is an eye-opener,
37:55but we always knew that plastics in the city of Delhi and all over
38:00would be causing havoc.
38:03Unlike the air pollution,
38:04which leads to immediate sore throat,
38:08coughs, you know,
38:10smarting of eyes,
38:11asthmatics will have attacks,
38:14they'll come to the emergency,
38:16there'll be more ICU admission,
38:17more ventilators.
38:19Plastics will,
38:20particles will act slowly,
38:23actually.
38:24And this is absolutely man-made,
38:27you know,
38:27absolutely man-made,
38:29and you have already shown in your reports.
38:31It does enter through the lung,
38:34as well as in the gastrointestinal tract,
38:37because what we eat,
38:38what we drink,
38:39don't we find utensils saying they are micro-safe,
38:43you know,
38:44they are plastic things,
38:45just because it's written in the micros,
38:47say we conveniently eat our food.
38:49That's only a simple thing.
38:51Don't worry,
38:51why are we not drinking water in the plastic bottle,
38:55thinking that,
38:55you know,
38:56we are having a safe,
38:58safe water.
39:00And what about buying vegetables
39:03and all those things in a plastic,
39:06you know,
39:06polythene bags?
39:08Where do they go ultimately?
39:10Ultimately,
39:10they go into our water,
39:12they go into our food,
39:13they go into our agriculture.
39:16What it does to us,
39:17something are known,
39:18something is not known.
39:20We know that...
39:21Okay, let's quickly fix that line with Dr. Killani.
39:28Let me go to Vimriindu Jhadin.
39:29Vimriindu,
39:30you know,
39:30the discussion on air pollution
39:32has become the discussion on plastic.
39:34Who would have thought
39:35that this day would come?
39:37But here we are,
39:38discussing how plastic,
39:39every piece of it
39:41is now responsible
39:42for our bodily health
39:43or our physical health as well.
39:45Are you surprised at all
39:47by this study
39:47or this is something
39:49that has been spoken about?
39:51So,
39:52I think there's been
39:52several studies on this.
39:54Of course,
39:54this one is very specific to Delhi
39:56and therefore,
39:57it's very,
39:57very alarming.
39:58And also the reason
39:59because Delhi already
40:00is a toxic city
40:02in that sense.
40:02it's a city
40:03that already has
40:04such alarming levels
40:05of air pollution
40:06and, you know,
40:07all this while
40:08there were these studies
40:08that were actually done
40:09in London and Paris
40:10which relatively
40:11or perhaps in,
40:13you know,
40:13is much, much better
40:14than the data points
40:15that we actually have
40:16vis-Ã -vis air pollution
40:17of Delhi.
40:19Also,
40:19you know,
40:20all this while
40:20every time we spoke
40:21about microplastic,
40:22largely we were talking
40:23marine litter,
40:24we were actually talking
40:25about waterways
40:26getting contaminated
40:26by microplastic
40:28and therefore
40:29our entire food chain
40:30in that sense.
40:30This in many ways
40:32is for the first time
40:33asking us
40:34those difficult questions
40:36that all this while
40:37if you were thinking
40:38that it's only dust
40:39that is responsible
40:40for almost 30%
40:41of your air pollution
40:43or perhaps
40:44vehicular emissions
40:46which is responsible
40:47for almost 40%
40:48to 50%
40:49of the air pollution,
40:50imagine if there's
40:51so much of garbage
40:52all around.
40:53And by the way,
40:54Sonal,
40:55the interesting study
40:56was done
40:58in this area
40:59called Lodi Road
41:00and all the data
41:01points have actually
41:02come from one
41:03of the cleanest areas
41:04of Delhi.
41:05Imagine if a study
41:06like this was actually
41:07done in Anand Vihar
41:08or perhaps in Bhalaswa
41:10or in some other
41:11neighborhood
41:11which was not
41:12as posh,
41:13as rich,
41:14as maintained,
41:15as plastic-free
41:17or plastic-sore-free
41:19as Lodi Road
41:20in that sense.
41:21So we know
41:21it's almost
41:22a great study
41:23of course
41:24but imagine
41:24reality of this study
41:26that we're talking about.
41:27But the main point
41:28for all of us here
41:29is that when we know
41:30that there's a study
41:31almost which has
41:33a government stamp
41:34or an academic stamp
41:35also say for example
41:36an Indian
41:37educational research study
41:40because you know
41:40all this finally
41:41if it was a Lancet
41:42or someone else
41:43telling us
41:43then we thought
41:44that this was perhaps
41:45an international propaganda
41:46to shame Delhi
41:47in that sense.
41:48Here we have
41:48our own researchers
41:49and scientists
41:50and the scientist community
41:52telling us
41:53that our air
41:53actually has microplastic
41:55and air of Lodi Road
41:56has microplastic
41:58and through the air
41:59and not just in winter
42:00in that sense.
42:01And interestingly
42:02this study
42:03also talks about
42:05the fact that
42:06most of this transmission
42:07this microplastic
42:08or the reason
42:09why microplastic
42:11is able to go
42:11from point A
42:12to point B
42:13is because it carries
42:14largely through
42:15dust particles
42:16and of course
42:17through other
42:18vehicular emissions
42:19and other things.
42:20Now therefore
42:20what are the action points?
42:21What are the key takeaways?
42:22Just hold on to that
42:23just hold on to that
42:24Mr. Jha
42:25because I want to
42:26you know
42:27when it comes to plastic
42:28the conversation
42:30is not an easy one.
42:31While you were speaking
42:32we were running graphics
42:33of what constitutes
42:34to microplastics.
42:36And I'll request
42:37my producers
42:38to play that graphic
42:39up again
42:39and it'll tell you
42:41the composition
42:41that the study
42:42also said.
42:43It said about
42:4340% of it
42:44was coming in
42:45from polyester
42:46and the rest
42:47of the stuff right.
42:48Now these are
42:49in your clothes
42:49these are
42:50in your bags
42:52these are
42:53in the curtains
42:54that you put
42:54in your house
42:55these are
42:56in the bottles
42:56that you use
42:57in your tiffin
42:58once you start
42:59looking at
43:00those figures
43:01it feels as if
43:02this is a lost cause.
43:04It feels as if
43:06there is just
43:06no way
43:07in which we can
43:08escape it.
43:09No we should
43:09because there's
43:10a difference
43:11between indoor
43:11microplastic
43:12or indoor
43:13air contamination
43:14and outdoor
43:15air contamination.
43:16Explain that.
43:17The clothes
43:17that we actually wear
43:18you know
43:19and the microplastic
43:20that it carries
43:20versus
43:21and the food
43:22that we eat
43:22is one thing
43:23but right now
43:23most alarming
43:24the data
43:25that we're talking
43:26about is
43:26transmission
43:27through wind
43:28or transmission
43:29due to heat
43:30and a lot of
43:30that is attributed
43:31to outdoor
43:32this thing.
43:33So at the end
43:33of the day
43:34when we talk
43:34about who
43:35has to
43:35therefore
43:36stop this
43:37menace
43:37where does
43:38it actually
43:38stop and
43:38what are
43:39those action
43:39points
43:40it has to
43:40be somewhere
43:41first of all
43:42do we even
43:42measure it
43:43in our country
43:43in terms of
43:44our air quality
43:45indicators
43:46or air quality
43:46monitors
43:47that we actually
43:47have in Delhi
43:48and Delhi
43:49has the most
43:50amount of
43:50air quality
43:50monitors and
43:51other towns
43:51don't even
43:52have so-called
43:53landfill management
43:55or in fact
43:56many cities
43:56don't even
43:57have a landfill
43:58imagine the
43:59plight of
43:59microplastic
44:00or open
44:01burning of
44:01plastic and
44:02contamination
44:02of our
44:03waterways
44:03and our
44:03airways in
44:04that sense
44:04so it's a
44:05very grim
44:05situation
44:06I think
44:06one of the
44:06first things
44:07that we
44:07need to do
44:07is make
44:08microplastic
44:09like right
44:10now we look
44:11at PM2.5
44:12and PM10
44:13and only
44:13these two
44:14parameters
44:15as main
44:15parameters
44:16are air
44:16quality
44:17measurement
44:18or slash
44:19assessment
44:19and therefore
44:20we will
44:20and by the
44:21way
44:21this PM2.5
44:23is too
44:24big a
44:24particle
44:25matter
44:25that we
44:26talk about
44:26globally
44:26this is PM1
44:27which have evolved
44:28to 0.5
44:28to 0.25
44:29in that sense
44:30because you
44:31know at the
44:31end of it
44:31PM10 is
44:32big
44:32PM2.0
44:33is smaller
44:33and PM0.5
44:35and 0.25
44:35and here
44:36we talk about
44:37microplastic
44:37which is
44:375mm
44:39and 0.5
44:39and less
44:40and nanoplastic
44:41like right
44:42now we talk
44:42about microplastic
44:43there's something
44:44called nanoplastic
44:44also
44:45and this is
44:46one study
44:46and therefore
44:48what does
44:49the government
44:49of our day
44:50derive out
44:52of this study
44:53is very very
44:53important
44:53both from
44:54an environment
44:54point of view
44:55and public
44:56health point of
44:56view
44:57I'm sure
44:57Dr. Saab
44:58will tell you
44:58you know
44:59and Dr. Saab
45:00has been
45:00talking about
45:01the impact
45:01of air pollution
45:02on our children
45:03and the elderly
45:03but it's
45:04the air pollution
45:05impact is a
45:06composite of
45:06when we say
45:07why does
45:07cancer occur
45:08because of
45:09lung infection
45:09or air pollution
45:10is primarily
45:11because of
45:11a lot of
45:12these toxins
45:12which are not
45:13even measured
45:14slash assessed
45:15by our air
45:16quality monitors
45:17and therefore
45:17there's no
45:18air quality
45:18monitoring
45:19slash and therefore
45:20mitigation regime
45:21that we have
45:22in the country
45:22this seems like
45:23a doomed
45:23conversation for me
45:24frankly
45:25I don't know
45:25where we can
45:27even begin
45:28but we need to
45:29mull on that
45:29for a little while
45:30while I go to
45:31Dr. Khilani
45:31one more time
45:32Dr. Khilani
45:32I don't think
45:34a lot of people
45:34even understand
45:35the concept of
45:36air pollution
45:36during summer
45:37and monsoon
45:38which is why
45:38we're bringing
45:38out the story
45:39people think
45:40only till you
45:43get down to
45:43like Vimalindu
45:44is saying
45:44that A
45:45it's not
45:45recorded
45:46and B
45:47then you
45:48ask yourself
45:48why are there
45:49so many
45:49infections happening
45:50then you ask
45:51yourself
45:51why people
45:51are falling
45:52sick
45:52more frequently
45:53and for
45:54longer durations
45:54then you have
45:55to ask yourself
45:56questions like
45:56why in the summer
45:57people are breaking
45:58down
45:58then you have to
45:59ask yourself
45:59why so many
46:00people are having
46:00strokes etc
46:01can you
46:02have you seen
46:04a direct
46:04relationship
46:05between air
46:06quality going
46:07bad and
46:08patients in
46:09your hospital
46:10across say
46:11gender and
46:12across age
46:12barrier
46:13is that something
46:13that you're
46:14seeing in your
46:14hospital
46:15yeah there is
46:17something called
46:17short term
46:18effect and
46:18long term
46:19effect
46:19the short
46:20term effect
46:21we see
46:21during the
46:22October
46:22November
46:23and December
46:23when we have
46:25more patients
46:26with pneumonia
46:26more patients
46:27with viral
46:28infection
46:28more patients
46:29in the ICU
46:30more patients
46:30on ventilator
46:31but I want to
46:33bring another
46:33issue
46:34why 40%
46:35of the cancers
46:36or 50%
46:37of the lung
46:38cancers
46:38are occurring
46:39in non
46:40smokers
46:41well I was
46:42studying
46:4390-95%
46:44of cancer
46:45used to occur
46:46only who
46:46used to smoke
46:47why there is
46:49the cancer
46:51registry of
46:51India shows
46:52that there are
46:53more cancers
46:53of the breast
46:54more cancers
46:55of the female
46:57reproductive system
46:58why there is
46:59higher level
46:59of infertility
47:01if you go
47:02into all these
47:03causes
47:03the toxins
47:05in our blood
47:06and which goes
47:07through the air
47:08as well as
47:09through the food
47:09now when we
47:10talk about
47:11plastics
47:11it's not only
47:12the plastics
47:13when the plastic
47:14is burned
47:14there are
47:15a lot of
47:15elements like
47:17zinc
47:17aluminum
47:18silicon
47:18all of that
47:20is becoming
47:21this really
47:22toxic cocktail
47:23that all of us
47:23are constantly
47:24sort of
47:25breathing in
47:26it affects
47:27our endocrine
47:28system
47:28don't we see
47:3050% of our
47:31women are
47:32taking thyroxine
47:33which was not
47:34there before
47:35and this is
47:36everywhere
47:37including the
47:38breast milk
47:39contains
47:40these toxins
47:41including the
47:42plastic
47:42so
47:43there has to be
47:44last few minutes
47:45I'm so sorry
47:46I'm interjecting
47:46I have last few
47:47minutes and I
47:48really want to get
47:48some solutions
47:49from Vimleindu
47:49here
47:50Vimleindu
47:50like I said
47:51I have my air
47:52purifier on in
47:53my house
47:54throughout the
47:55year now
47:55but not everybody
47:56does that
47:57in studios
47:58in cars
47:59etc
48:00you can't
48:00live in
48:01or constantly
48:02with a mask
48:03on your face
48:03all year round
48:04so what can a
48:05common man do
48:06understanding
48:07fully well
48:08what is happening
48:08very quick
48:09two things
48:10one is we
48:11can never
48:12have private
48:13solution to a
48:14public problem
48:15don't look for
48:16a private
48:16solution for a
48:17public problem
48:18because you'll
48:18be doing great
48:19disservice to it
48:20because that's
48:21what we've been
48:21doing
48:21when our water
48:22got terrible
48:23we actually
48:24fixed these
48:25ROs and things
48:26when our air
48:26is bad
48:27we're putting
48:27air purifiers
48:28the other is
48:28it's a myth
48:29you can't be
48:30walking with a
48:31cylinder of a
48:32clean air
48:33in a playground
48:33or in a
48:34cinema hall
48:35or on the
48:35road
48:36in that sense
48:36I think
48:36it's high
48:37time that we
48:38have advocacy
48:38around it
48:39we have those
48:39measures
48:40and when we
48:41know that
48:42the sources
48:42of plastic
48:43and we also
48:44know methods
48:45of safe
48:45disposal of
48:46plastic
48:46when we
48:47so caught
48:48on paper
48:48already have
48:49a law
48:49banning
48:50single-use
48:50plastic
48:51where the
48:52hell is
48:52this plastic
48:53coming from
48:54if there's
48:54a ban
48:54that will
48:54be from
48:55ground
48:55we'll leave
48:57it there for
48:58the moment
48:58thank you
48:58both
48:59and Dr.
49:00Khilani
49:01for joining
49:01us
49:01this is not
49:02the last
49:03we've heard
49:03of this
49:03conversation
49:03just yet
49:04promise to
49:04bring it up
49:05and keep
49:05underlining
49:07this issue
49:07more and
49:08more
49:08but let's
49:08move on
49:09to some
49:09more news
49:09ahead of
49:10the festive
49:11season
49:11the prices
49:12of gold
49:13have touched
49:14an all-time
49:15high
49:15with the
49:15rupee
49:15has fallen
49:16for a record
49:17low
49:17the rate
49:18of gold
49:18per 10
49:19gram
49:19has crossed
49:201,04,000
49:22mark for
49:23several parts
49:24of the country
49:24but according
49:25to analysis
49:26gold prices
49:26may see even
49:27higher swings
49:28later this
49:29week
49:29here's a
49:30report
49:30even as
49:36Prime Minister
49:36Narendra Modi
49:37was creating
49:38headlines in
49:39the Chinese
49:39showpiece city
49:40of Tianjin
49:41grabbing global
49:42attention as
49:43he met
49:44Chinese
49:44presidential
49:45India's
49:57economic numbers
49:58gave markets
49:59plenty to talk
50:00about
50:00a day after
50:01GDP numbers
50:02shocked economic
50:03observers
50:04buying return
50:05to the
50:06Dalal street
50:07gold and silver
50:08hit a record high
50:09and the rupee
50:10slipped
50:10to a record low
50:11it started on
50:13Friday with
50:13GDP numbers
50:14putting the
50:15country's
50:15economic growth
50:16at its
50:17fastest pace
50:18in 15 months
50:19the services
50:21sector led
50:22the way
50:22from IT
50:23to financial
50:24services
50:24while agriculture
50:25showed resilience
50:26that few
50:27expected
50:28huge government
50:30spendings
50:30helped
50:31economists
50:32also point
50:33to front
50:34loading of
50:34exports
50:35ahead of
50:36new US
50:36tariffs
50:37which added
50:37momentum
50:38to growth
50:39meanwhile
50:41precious
50:41metals
50:42gold
50:42and silver
50:43hit record
50:44highs
50:44as tariff
50:45uncertainties
50:46coupled with
50:47festive season
50:47demand
50:48pulled the
50:49buyers in
50:49the yellow
50:50metal
50:50is seeing
50:51a surge
50:51in safe
50:52haven't
50:52demand
50:52central banks
50:54across the
50:54world
50:55are also
50:55piling up
50:56on gold
50:56in India
50:58a weak rupee
50:59contributed
50:59to the rise
51:00as well
51:01gold
51:02crossed
51:02the 1 lakh
51:034 thousand
51:04mark
51:04per 10
51:05grams
51:05for the
51:06first time
51:06in Delhi
51:07spot market
51:08with October
51:08futures
51:09close to
51:101 lakh
51:106 thousand
51:11mark
51:11silver
51:13which has
51:13been placed
51:14in the
51:14critical
51:15minerals
51:15list
51:16by the
51:16US
51:16leaped
51:17past
51:17the
51:181 lakh
51:1820
51:18thousand
51:19rupees
51:19per
51:20kilo
51:20mark
51:20up
51:21nearly
51:216 thousand
51:22rupees
51:22in a
51:23single
51:23day
51:23particularly
51:25when things
51:25are not
51:26going
51:26great
51:26when there
51:26are
51:27earnings
51:27down
51:27rates
51:28or
51:28there
51:29is
51:29uncertainty
51:29around
51:30the
51:30world
51:30this
51:31is
51:31one
51:31segment
51:31which
51:32in my
51:32opinion
51:32will
51:33hold
51:33up
51:33relatively
51:33better
51:34off
51:34so
51:35while
51:36one
51:36is not
51:36giving a
51:36directional
51:37view
51:37on
51:37precious
51:38metals
51:38I think
51:39in the
51:39asset
51:40allocation
51:40for
51:40investors
51:41who
51:41are
51:41listening
51:41on
51:42to
51:42this
51:42show
51:42the
51:43allocation
51:44towards
51:44these
51:45two
51:45asset
51:45classes
51:46which
51:46are
51:47equities
51:48and
51:48precious
51:48metals
51:49should
51:49certainly
51:49be
51:50higher
51:50on a
51:50structural
51:51basis
51:51than
51:52what
51:52it has
51:53been
51:53in the
51:53last
51:54five
51:54years
51:54but
51:56not
51:56all
51:57the
51:57headlines
51:57were
51:57positive
51:58the
51:58Indian
51:59rupee
51:59slipped
51:59to
52:00a
52:00record
52:00low
52:01against
52:01the
52:01US
52:01dollar
52:02tracing
52:03slide
52:03that
52:03began
52:04on
52:04Friday
52:04the
52:05rupee
52:06slipped
52:06to
52:06an
52:06all-time
52:07low
52:07of
52:0888.33
52:09to
52:09the
52:09dollar
52:10before
52:10recovering
52:11at
52:11the
52:11end
52:12of
52:12the
52:12trade
52:12analysts
52:14say
52:14the
52:14Reserve
52:15Bank
52:15of
52:15India
52:15is
52:16letting
52:16the
52:16Indian
52:17currency
52:17take
52:18its
52:18own
52:18course
52:19with
52:19the
52:19fall
52:19likely
52:20to
52:20give
52:20relief
52:21to
52:21exporters
52:22facing
52:23tariff
52:23headwins
52:24Bureau
52:26Report
52:26Business
52:27Today
52:27Television
52:27All right
52:31so what
52:31plans do
52:32you have
52:32for
52:32Diwali
52:33write in
52:33to us
52:34with all
52:34your
52:34feedback
52:34and perhaps
52:35we can
52:35bring you
52:36more
52:36reports
52:36for that
52:37for now
52:38that's all
52:38we could
52:38wrap up
52:39in this
52:39edition
52:40of
52:40Five
52:40Life
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