Signs of a Psychopath Season 10 Episode 3

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00:00Good evening, a break today in a high profile cold case murder more than 30 years ago.

00:30In June of 1988, 21-year-old UNM student Althea Oakley was walking home from a party when she was attacked by a man with a knife near CNM, stabbed multiple times before her assailant ran off.

00:45Then in September of 1988, 13-year-old Stella Gonzalez was shot and killed.

00:52The following summer, July 16, 1989, 18-year-old UNM student Caitlin Arquette was shot to death as she was driving home.

01:15UNM police.

01:20Hi, this is hospital security.

01:22We have a gentleman outside.

01:25He is saying that he killed somebody.

01:27Okay, so Paul Apodaca, he's on probation.

01:33Probation violation, aggravated assault, police officer weapon, armed and dangerous.

01:38He is a sex offender.

01:40I would kill again.

01:49I'm dead.

01:50I'm alive.

01:51But I don't think it was wrong.

01:53The thing inside of me, it's like the appetite.

01:57Take a look, it's...

02:00Feeling...

02:02The hunger.

02:03The hunger.

02:1053-year-old Paul Apodaca showed up to the UNM police station claiming he had found God and wanted to confess to crimes he says he committed decades ago.

02:20So, the first one, you said a Caitlin or a Caitlin?

02:41Caitlin.

02:42Okay.

02:43Okay.

02:45Okay.

02:46And then, what was the second person?

02:50I think he said...

02:51I think he said...

02:52I think he'll come.

02:55Okay.

02:56Who else?

02:59There was a girl who was crossing the bridge on the central.

03:03I don't know.

03:04She said, I don't know how to stand.

03:06I don't know how to stand.

03:07I don't know how to do this.

03:09I don't know how to do this.

03:13This is not somebody who just sauntered into a police station and said, I've got to unburden myself.

03:20This is somebody who's picked up on a probation violation.

03:23He is homeless, has no money.

03:26He's disconnected from his family.

03:29And I think those were the driving forces behind Apodaca confessing.

03:33He has been in prison before.

03:35One of the things we see in individuals who are psychopaths is sometimes what we call a parasitic lifestyle, meaning that they're looking for ways to live off of other people.

03:47And his options, I think, outside of prison are very slim, if none.

03:53But it's a choice he's willing to make to not have to take care of himself anymore.

03:57What we know about Apodaca is that he has this long history of violent and sexual offenses.

04:04He raped a 13-year-old.

04:06So that early offense behavior, followed by more assaults and rapes, indicate that this is a person that has a history of predatory behavior, along with a lack of remorse for his actions.

04:17And in fact, he recently assaulted his aunt.

04:21He has a profound disregard for the well-being and rights of others.

04:24So, how many times did you stab her?

04:43Why did you do it?

04:56I had anger in my heart at this moment.

05:02Resent me.

05:04Because I've always seen an injury when I'm bad and they have over me.

05:07And I tried to be nice when I remember.

05:10I appreciate it.

05:11Where I consider the ultimate sin when I can love you.

05:17And I thought that I could do no more harm.

05:22After years and years of contemplating and researching this, I understand the whole pain that I've caused and I feel it.

05:33So, where did you shoot Caitlyn?

05:38In the head.

05:41So, we have Athea, and we have Caitlyn, and you said there was a girl crossing the bridge on Central.

05:54Central in what?

05:58Okay.

05:59He goes on this rant about how he's seen women treated badly, how he had anger in his heart.

06:18He had resentment towards women, but he's still putting on the mask.

06:23I don't think that that's the real reason why he committed these crimes.

06:27When we think of ritualistic killings, we think that someone has to do this particular behavior in this specific way in order to achieve whatever satisfaction they're looking for.

06:36We have assault histories, but then it graduates to a knife, and then it graduates to a rifle.

06:42He did this thing because he wanted to do it.

06:47Did something happen that prompted you to come in to talk today?

06:53Wait, what brought you to this point?

06:55I have no sense to be in this room, so I can't hold what I've done.

07:03I have no sense to be in this room, so I can't hold what I've done.

07:07I have no sense to be in this room, so I can't hold what I've done.

07:25I saw Althea walking south on one of these stuff.

07:31I saw that she was wearing a denim skirt, and I wanted to go and talk to her.

07:42But what happened was that I was sitting there, and when she walked up, she smiled at her.

07:49She said hi, and she smiled at her.

07:53This smile that Althea Oakley gives to Paul Badaka really triggers him.

08:19Now, he says that it's because of his hatred to women.

08:23How can you kill someone who smiles at you?

08:26But when we look at why sex offenders commit the acts that they commit,

08:30there's often a misinterpretation of behaviors being done by the victim.

08:37And I think that the smile gave Apodaka the belief that he was free to do whatever he wanted.

08:46When I thought about it, what made me do it, what made me attack her was all the hatred that I had for women.

08:58And I just released it on Althea.

09:01And I didn't think my short little knife would be able to do that much damage.

09:06I didn't think that I killed her.

09:11I used to think that as long as I had never killed anybody, that was the ultimate sin, everything else was okay.

09:18Once, once I did that, it seemed like nothing mattered anymore.

09:29And every once in a while, I don't know, when that angel would rise again, I'd go out.

09:35Just drive around with a raffle like a hunter.

09:40I think he was seeking revenge in his mind on all these women who had not been receptive to his overtures.

09:59This is somebody who has been, you know, exploiting women, raping women before.

10:05And for him, it's just the next step.

10:07He's followed the path that so many other sexual psychopaths have followed in the past,

10:11which is starting out with sex crimes and progressing to murder.

10:14How did you first make contact with her, and then where did you stab her?

10:20What kind of service were you on?

10:26She walked past me, and I came up behind her and stabbed her from behind me.

10:31And then I think I circled back because I don't think she turned around.

10:37And then I stabbed her on the side.

10:40She didn't really have time to try to defend herself.

10:49And then after you stabbed her, did you see what she did?

10:53She told me, I don't have anyone.

10:55She said, I don't have anyone.

10:57And she just started to walk up the side, the pathway.

11:03And what was your intent?

11:12The psychology of it is kind of complex.

11:18My intention was just to take her at my point to rape her.

11:24I haven't been thinking about doing anything exactly like that, no.

11:31I have raped women before, but never, never like playing an ambush or anything like that before.

11:41He says the psychology of why he did what he did is complex and that he had never actually thought about engaging in this behavior.

11:51But when we look at him, arms crossed, sitting back, he's comfortable with describing what it is that he did.

12:00He wants us to believe that it is more complex because he believes that it's more complex.

12:06But the notion that he hadn't considered doing this and that this is the first time he has ever done this without ever having fantasized about this,

12:17I think is just another lie because the psychopath refuses to ever tell the truth about anything.

12:42Let's go to Kaitlyn's case.

12:46It was late at night.

12:48I had been driving around the whole city with a rifle just looking for a target of opportunity.

12:58I was a sick man.

13:03Kaitlyn pulled up next to me.

13:05There was a red light.

13:09And I raised the rifle and I shot at her.

13:14She crossed the median, came back and hit a light pole.

13:24So I hid the rifle under the seat and I drove back.

13:28I parked in front of her and I began to go see what condition she was in.

13:36And as bright as I approached the window and looked in, I saw that her head had begun to swell.

13:45A vehicle pulled up in front of me and an officer came and asked what had happened.

13:54I told him that I had seen the car there and that I was going to investigate.

14:10And we both looked in, I took my license plate on the car, took my name and number, and then I drove away.

14:22When Apodaca's talking about the murder of Kaitlyn Arquette, he's describing himself going back to see his own handiwork.

14:31By doing that, that just gives him more of a sense of power and control.

14:36Like he's seeing the actual damage he's done to somebody after the fact.

14:40And I think that really highlights his ability as a psychopath to camouflage himself and sort of put on this mask of an innocent person and be somebody he's not.

14:50And that in turn could also be feeding his ego.

14:52Do you remember what phone number you gave to the officer at the time?

15:01Did you give him the correct house phone number to the best of your palate?

15:04Yes.

15:05I saw that some people have turned themselves in.

15:09And then I remember seeing that three people have been confessed to the crime.

15:17The idea that someone would give false confession is about notoriety.

15:31He's trying to escape notoriety.

15:33He's a psychopath that doesn't want his name in the paper.

15:36I think in the moment, he's just doing whatever feels right.

15:40So he gives the number thinking that eventually they're going to come get me.

15:44And when they never do, well, I guess I got away with it.

15:47You had mentioned something about a girl that you had shot on the bridge.

16:14You want to tell me about it?

16:17Okay.

16:18There's a central street bridge that crosses the street to Tingley.

16:24There's a bike path underneath the bridge.

16:27There were two girls walking eastbound on the bridge.

16:33And I had seen them walking.

16:36I must have been doing the same thing I had done before.

16:41And I parked.

16:45And I shot at them.

16:48And one of them fell to the ground.

16:52And the other one screamed.

16:54And I threw the right back in the trunk and drove away.

16:58In combination to the other cases that we talked about already, was this after or before?

17:01It was that the same thing.

17:07Yes.

17:08And he actually heard in the meeting.

17:10You tell me I said the pain was broken.

17:11It was broken.

17:12I was broken.

17:13And I was broken.

17:14And I was broken.

17:17And I was broken.

17:19And I couldn't explain it.

17:21And I took my car to me.

17:23to the other cases that we talked about already was this after or before this was after alphia

17:38apodaca's second murder isn't as great of a story for him to tell you know he shot her from a

17:44distance he didn't really have the details in mind so he can't really relive that experience

17:50which when a psychopath is confessing to a murder to police part of the excitement there is just them

17:57reliving the event in their mind as they're going through it with detectives and he can't do that

18:01with stella it's hard it's hard to just accept everything it's not so much about relieving

18:17myself of that as it is to bring closure to the people at home so last year i was in jail for a

18:25year for assaulting my auntie i was living with my grandma and my auntie got all my nerves and i was

18:32i was on drugs and i had a booster

18:38i don't blame the drugs but i they do have a lowering effect on your threshold for

18:44for cognitive control and all that but i spent the last year in jail and just

18:52crying and crying over all the things i've done

18:54i think this is the element of positive impression management that we often see with psychopathy

19:17he wants to come across as someone who's you know shame and guilt for everything that they did right

19:22it's finally come to fruition and they're here for uh for penance i don't think so but if this really

19:30was about accepting responsibility for what you did you wouldn't have waited until after you abused your

19:41auntie to get to that point from strangers to family members it's not a far leap for the psychopath

19:51because they only see the relationship in which they can get something because of the parasitic

19:56lifestyle that the psychopath leads when anyone in this case women somehow challenge apodaca

20:04he'll do what he has to do to maintain his masculinity

20:17you

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