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The Toolbox Murders (2025) Season 1 Episode 2
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00:00It felt like it was from a horror movie.
00:23You couldn't believe that it would happen here in South East Queensland.
00:33You kind of have a really awful feeling in the pit of your stomach.
00:37What's inside the toolbox?
00:41And there was a moment where the crane just brings up this toolbox, just swinging in the
00:49air.
00:50It's one of the most horrific crimes that we've covered.
00:57To me, this is pure evil.
01:07This was a case that we thought was finished, but it wasn't.
01:13The murder convictions have been overturned on appeal.
01:20So this is the track that Detective Tanks was led along by Mr Tejada on the night of the
01:2710th February 2016.
01:3410th February 2016.
01:41This is part of the watercourse that runs along Kingston Road towards where the toolbox
01:48was eventually deposited into the Scrubby Creek.
01:55Good evening.
01:56A mother of seven is among six people charged with murder
02:02over the killing of a man and woman at Logan.
02:09A macabre bend to a savage crime.
02:16Crane swings a makeshift coffin.
02:17It became a makeshift coffin.
02:18For two people, officers alleged were killed in cold blood.
02:23Since that point in time, it's consumed a lot of my life.
02:30It's consumed a lot of detectives' lives.
02:31It's part of something that has continued on since people being charged on the 10th of,
02:37since 11th of February 2016.
02:39It is something that we've had to live and breathe.
02:42through all the trials, and it's still continuing today.
03:12This is their final resting place.
03:15It's not something we, you know, make something off.
03:21It's, um, yeah, it's rather, can be a little bit of a touchy subject,
03:26especially for myself and some of the others.
03:29This is where two people met their end at the hands of some rather nasty people.
03:42The scale of the toolbox murders was enormous.
03:57There was nine defendants on various charges, including torture, manslaughter and murder.
04:04It is, without a doubt, one of the biggest cases in living memory, particularly in Australia.
04:10This is a lengthy investigation and thousands and thousands of text messages to be read.
04:23How do you go through 83,000 text messages?
04:28Witnesses to be sought, travelling to New Zealand to bring an accused back.
04:32The crime scene, it was massive.
04:34Things started to ramp up.
04:36Their decision was made, we need to locate these people and arrest them before they leave
04:41or try to get out of the country.
04:43They were held in custody.
04:46They were going to be charged with murder.
04:48And now the work begins.
04:54You're drained.
04:55You're trying to put through every piece of evidence you can put through
05:01and then be cross-examined on said evidence.
05:06You're trying to remember anything that may or could be an issue for the prosecution.
05:16Anything that a defence lawyer may try and not trip you up on, but it's to try and negate
05:23their client's capability in the murder of Corey Breton and Iliana Trascaro.
05:36This case had very gory, gruesome elements.
05:41And even the judge, when he was empanelling the jury, warned them and said,
05:47you will hear some things that will be hard to forget.
05:53And said to them, if you want to be excused, you can.
05:56No one did.
05:57And it felt like it was from a horror movie.
06:01You couldn't believe that it would happen here in South East Queensland.
06:06The nature of it...
06:11It was hard to watch every night, that's for sure.
06:22The troubling aspect of this case is its protracted nature.
06:26Occasionally, in fact more often than not, murders occur on impulse, spur of the moment,
06:34a person pulls out a gun or a knife.
06:36These two people were kept for some period of time.
06:41There was certainly sufficient time for any one of the people in the group
06:45to notify the police to secure their release.
06:48This didn't happen.
06:56I think it speaks to the power of peer group dynamics
06:59and people being enthralled by the leader.
07:04And, of course, their judgement inevitably was impacted by the use of stimulant drugs such as ice,
07:10which has a dramatic effect on people's judgement and impulse control.
07:19Well, so many players involved in this horrific homicide, the two double homicides,
07:23someone's going to break.
07:25Something's going to happen eventually down the track.
07:27Someone's going to tell somebody what happened.
07:29Maybe they can't live with their conscience.
07:31They have to tell somebody to get it off their chest.
07:33There's always a weak link in any chain.
07:36A witness has told a double murder trial he watched as two people were forced into a toolbox.
07:42They just told them to get up and go and lay down in the box.
07:45Corey did.
07:46I remember when Tabita was trying to stop the lid from closing,
07:49Stu was slashing at her forearms with the knife that he'd stabbed Corey with.
07:57The court cases started with Leland Harrington.
08:01He sings like a bird to police and just outlines everything.
08:05Leland Harrington was a key Crown witness in this case and he had so many different areas of involvement.
08:14It was him who showed the photo to Stowe Daniels on his phone that Corey had texted him.
08:21It was his apartment, the Tav, where this horrific incident all played out.
08:26And then again, it was him who had that moment with Uliana where she tried to escape
08:31and he called out for Daniels and the others to come back.
08:34And she was coughing and choking on her own blood.
08:48So that is just absolutely horrendous details to hear for anyone.
08:53Knowing that their families were in the courtroom hearing this evidence just really hit home.
09:04Leland Harrington, who rolled over and double-crossed the gang to police, was convicted of deprivation of liberty and assault occasioning bodily harm.
09:13For assisting police, he got a suspended sentence and served no jail time.
09:18It's not fair.
09:19It's not fair.
09:23I think about that, what she would have gone through the last moments of her life.
09:29But I was, you know, at this still thought, well, Uliana's a strong person.
09:34She would have fought.
09:36And she did, according to what's been reported.
09:41And, you know, that gives a little bit of, like, at least she fought for the last moments of her life.
09:49Uliana did, you know.
09:50And that's the feistiness in her.
09:52There were a number of court proceedings that played out over quite a prolonged period of time.
10:10But there was this real focus on the man that police allege was the ringleader, the puppet master in all of this.
10:17So Daniels and his two enforcers, Thrupp and Tao.
10:27Three men found guilty of murdering Uliana Triscaro and Corey Breton have today been sentenced to life imprisoned.
10:33Trent Thrupp, Stowe Daniels and Davy Tao were last week found guilty of torturing and stuffing the pair in a toolbox
10:40and dumping it in a Logan dam back in January 2016.
10:44In court today, Justin David Boddice describing their actions as completely lacking humanity.
10:49They are despicable crimes involving senseless yet sadistic conduct perpetrated against two defenceless individuals.
10:58Throughout the court proceedings, we did hear from Uliana Triscaro's mother.
11:11She gave a very powerful victim impact statement showing how loved she was to her family.
11:17She said things in court like, what kind of mind is capable of thinking that it is okay to do that to another human being?
11:23My heart is literally broken. You did that.
11:27She also said that Uliana's children were asking for their mother every day.
11:31You hear about these people as victims, but this is when you really hear about them as people and hear about the impact they had on others' lives.
11:43We also heard during these court proceedings from the family of Corey Breton.
11:48We heard from his partner, Miranda, and she said in court through a victim impact statement,
11:53how do you tell a three-year-old that you're never going to be able to see your father again?
11:58It's so brutal. They are sitting metres away from the people that have been accused of killing their loved ones,
12:10and they have to hear every gruesome detail when they're getting tortured.
12:15You know, tapes and zip-tied to a couch, getting beaten up, flogged, jammed into a toolbox.
12:21The family members clearly were feeling that.
12:25It was like they were going through the same experience.
12:28And this is day after day after day.
12:31You know, this is facing, really, they are facing their own type of torture.
12:35This time it just happened to be in a courtroom.
12:39And those are the moments that you just don't really forget.
12:43Yeah, you don't forget.
12:48No amount of time served will ever bring Corey back to us.
12:52My life is gone.
12:54My daughter is gone.
12:57Maybe the God give him more.
13:02It was quite a great relief.
13:04The families are very appreciative of the amount of work that went into preparing the court matters.
13:11And obviously they're not going to get their family members back,
13:15but they saw it as justice being served.
13:21Over the last five years we have not been able to properly grieve for Corey due to court proceedings.
13:28Now we have some sort of closure.
13:31So it's not one of these ones where you're punching in the air, it's high fives everywhere.
13:42It's not like that at all.
13:43In fact, it's quite sad.
13:45Two people have lost their life.
13:47And I don't believe it's a moment to be overjoyed.
13:50People never recover from this type of crime.
13:58And it's not just the loss of two loved ones.
14:01It's the knowledge of how they died.
14:03You would not be able to extricate yourself from those feelings.
14:19This was an extremely complex court case to cover.
14:22We had nine separate defendants on a range of charges.
14:26Varying charges from assault, torture, deprivation of liberty, manslaughter and murder.
14:33Some of these defendants were being dealt with individually.
14:36Some were being dealt with together.
14:37So the court proceedings to get through them all took a couple of years.
14:41The leader Stowe Daniels, charged with double murder and torture, received a life sentence from the judge.
14:52Tarangi Tahiata, who drove the ute with the toolbox to Scrubby Creek and later took police to the dumping ground,
14:59got life for double murder and torture.
15:02Enforcer Trent Thrupp, who yelled, time to die, got life for double murder and torture.
15:09Tepuna Mariri was jailed for torture and manslaughter.
15:16Webster Latu, guilty of two counts of manslaughter.
15:21So too was mum of seven, Nagatuna Mariette, guilty of double manslaughter.
15:28Waylon Walker was guilty of manslaughter.
15:32This was a case everyone thought it was done and dusted. Over.
15:40These men have been found guilty, convicted, sent to prison. And then?
15:47The decision was made we need to locate these people and arrest them.
15:51These men have been found guilty, convicted.
15:54No amount of time served will ever bring Corey back to us.
15:58This was a case everyone thought it was done and dusted. And then?
16:03One of the men serving a life sentence for a shocking 2016 double homicide known as the Toolbox Murders
16:09is appealing his conviction.
16:11A jury found Taurangi Thomas Tahiata guilty of the murders of Luliana Triscaru and Corey Breton.
16:18Tahiata today lodged an appeal in Brisbane's Supreme Court, arguing inadmissible evidence was placed before the jury,
16:27resulting in a miscarriage of justice.
16:30This was shocking, a shocking turn of events.
16:37There are no winners in a case like this.
16:39It's no doubt stressful and no doubt the families would be continuing to suffer as a result of that.
16:47I miss her very much. I'm so upset.
16:50One of Queensland's Toolbox killers has lost an appeal against his double murder conviction.
17:04Tahiata's appeal contended that an off-camera confession should have been inadmissible during his trial.
17:10But the Court of Appeal judges pointed out that he had also confessed on camera to police.
17:16We felt relief, but still very, very sad.
17:25And, you know, we shouldn't have never been in that situation, I suppose.
17:31No one should ever go through that.
17:36When we've had a guilty verdict, it will help the victim's families move on.
17:40About the family having closure, that's the most we can bring to them.
17:44So hopefully they now can move forward and move on with their lives.
17:49One of the other players in this is Natakuna Marietti.
17:53She was a friend of Juliana and Corey's.
17:59Natakuna used to come to our house and we would babysit her children, me and Juliana.
18:06Marietti went to this place to buy drugs and she discovered that Juliana had ice secreted in her bra.
18:16She took that ice from her and then became involved in this horrendous crime.
18:21I find that extraordinary in terms of being friends.
18:38She would have understood the impact on Juliana's children by losing their mother as a mother herself.
18:44And none of that appears to have been factored into her thinking, judgement and conduct at that time.
18:53It's the ultimate betrayal.
18:54Friends, they were mothers who looked after each other's children.
18:58How do you go from looking after each other's children to being part of the murder of that person?
19:08The clean-up.
19:09This was a friend who turned just like that and was able to be part of this murderous plot.
19:27And not only that, in the days afterwards, she contacted Juliana's family and lied and said,
19:36she's fine, they're fine.
19:39That level of deception is beyond most of us.
19:47How could she?
19:48She was friends with Juliana.
19:51You know, she hanged, they hanged out, both Juliana and Natakuna and their children.
19:57That's, you know, how could you do that to your friend?
20:00That's, how could you be able to stand there and clean up a mess that you know for a fact that your friend was just there?
20:12It's, I can't understand how, what went on with her mind in that regard.
20:17It clearly speaks to the bonds of friendship being just an illusion in this case.
20:28No empathy.
20:29You would imagine that she might have thought about the impact on the children,
20:34knowing their mother was going to be murdered in terms of her position as a mother of seven.
20:39But that does not seem to come into play here.
20:44Juliana didn't deserve any of it.
20:47It's a horrible, horrible way to go.
20:52It's not fair.
20:54She didn't deserve it as a person.
20:58She was a beautiful human being.
21:00A mother of seven involved in the grisly deaths of a man and a woman whose bodies were found inside a toolbox in a Logan Creek is admitting to her part in the evil crime.
21:18Natakuna Marietti pleading guilty to the pair's manslaughter.
21:21She wasn't involved in the actual killings, but she did assist by buying cleaning products, a mop, a bucket, methylated spirits to clean the unit.
21:30The judge told her she allowed events to unfold that caused the deaths.
21:35She was at the Logan unit in 2016 to buy drugs.
21:39She saw the victims tied up and later heard them screaming from inside the toolbox.
21:45She must have known this was not going to end well.
21:51But then comes a cruel twist for Corey and Uliana's families.
21:58Marietti is set free after serving part of her nine year sentence for manslaughter.
22:05She is deported to her home in New Zealand.
22:08Then there's a development which absolutely shocks police, families and the community.
22:16So my involvement with the toolbox murders started when the matter came before the Criminal Court of Appeal.
22:25Waylon Walker had requested that I act on his behalf with respect to an appeal after he was convicted of two manslaughters.
22:33He was charged with murder at the time of the trial and then on appeal we applied to the court to overturn those convictions.
22:44Our argument was that it could not be said and the jury could not have been satisfied on the evidence before them that Waylon had knowledge that these persons were going to be taken to Scrubby Creek and ultimately drowned.
22:59His knowledge was that they were just going to be taken for what was referred to as a boot ride and released.
23:07Now, if Waylon didn't have the knowledge that these persons were going to be taken and drowned, then it couldn't be sustained that he could be convicted of the manslaughter.
23:17In Underworld language, a boot ride is when you put someone in the back of your boot and take them for a ride as a bit of a scare tactic before letting them go.
23:33So Waylon appealed on the basis that they thought that the victims in this case were going to be let go.
23:38There's no fairness in any of these things.
23:55Waylon Walker wins his appeal against a manslaughter conviction and he then is set free.
24:01That is a shocking outcome for families and all of the police involved, anyone involved.
24:12One of the other players in this is Natakuna Marietti.
24:16She became involved in this horrendous crime.
24:20How could she? She was friends with Juliana.
24:22It's the ultimate betrayal.
24:29Logan is a fascinating place.
24:33It's about half an hour south of Brisbane and it's situated maybe 20 minutes north of the Gold Coast.
24:44There's beautiful places, beautiful people. There's bad in every suburb.
24:49When it comes to troubles in Logan, a lot of it revolves around drugs.
24:54The Scourge of Logan is ice.
24:56Readily available, cheap.
24:59Easy for people to produce.
25:02Not only does it warp people's minds, it just changes people completely.
25:07My team seem to lose their sense of humanity.
25:11It's all about them and what they need to do to facilitate their habit.
25:25Let's face it, this is what happens when people get involved in drugs.
25:30They become involved with people trafficking drugs.
25:32Gangs and organised crime are two things that can overlap, like a Venn diagram.
25:45Gangs are a group of people who form to pursue whatever it could be.
25:52It could be just normal, this is our territory, there's a bit of street violence and that.
25:56Organised crime is usually defined as three or more people in an ongoing relationship seeking power or profit through committing of serious criminal offences.
26:08They were clearly in it, it appears from the evidence in the court cases, in an ongoing relationship making profit from selling drugs.
26:17Any gang of any type, whether it's a motorcycle gang, whether it's a football club, there's always a hierarchy.
26:26So at the top are the people who best exemplify the lifestyle that everyone's looking for.
26:30That also means they're the most extreme person.
26:33And Stu is obviously that, Stu Daniels is that person in this group.
26:37There are rules within the criminal gang and you walk into any jail in any decade,
26:44the lowest of the low in a prison is a dog, a person who's a police informer.
26:51So if there was a belief amongst the group that Corey was informing about them to the police,
26:58that in itself would feed into the self-justification for what they're about to do.
27:05Because he was a dog and he had to be killed.
27:08There was a real sense of fear in this group.
27:18Some of the people in the group felt that if they didn't go along with this, that they might be next.
27:23They were worried they could be in the toolbox next.
27:25So they really did this out of fear, out of a misguided sense of loyalty.
27:29And it just ended up with the most horrific consequences for Uleana and Corey.
27:45Stu Daniels is a New Zealander, but he was living in Australia, living in Logan.
27:50Everybody looked up to him. Everybody took his orders.
27:54When he spoke, they came. When he called them, they came.
27:58Meanwhile, his brother Tyson Daniels is the deputy leader of the New Zealand chapter of the Comancheros biker gang.
28:07A notorious, a very scary gang.
28:09I'll just quote the judge in one of Daniels' cases, that was in February of 2020, and he says,
28:18You clearly knew that the money was derived from a significant drug importation and supply operation by the group of which you are a member.
28:27In this video of Tyson Daniels, you'll see him showing off his closet full of designer runners, expensive shirts, and really trying to betray this idea of wealth and power to people.
28:42This is all my gym clothes and stuff.
28:45I've got all my gym clothes all in there, all over there, and then all my gym shoes and shit.
28:52Show you guys the other side.
28:57All TNs, TNs, TNs, TNs.
29:01More TNs.
29:04Few more Versace things, all that type of shit.
29:07Oh, this is my Versace rack here.
29:09Everyone trying to say I'm wearing fake Versace.
29:13Get the out of here.
29:15Tyson Daniels showing off that he has money is not unusual in the organised crime community either.
29:22Why do people join organised crime? Because they want the lifestyle.
29:26How do you advertise your success in organised crime?
29:28Have the lifestyle and let everybody see it.
29:31Organised crime members don't think they're going to live to get their superannuation.
29:36Can I see my future wardrobe?
29:39The drug money must be good over there.
29:42Definitely a cop.
29:44Spending the money and being seen, that is organised crime culture from the movies.
29:52So the cruelty is part of the culture.
29:55If I'm going to join the culture and I know, because I've got the same sources as everybody else in that culture, meaning the media that we've all watched, the movies we've watched, this is what the lifestyle looks like.
30:07And I still voluntarily participate, then I also know that this is one of the consequences.
30:13So I must have some level of awareness and acceptance that this is going to be possible.
30:18And it doesn't really worry me as much.
30:19Whether there's any connection to the Comancheros over in New Zealand and this local Logan drug group really isn't clear.
30:36This wasn't discussed in court, but something we do know for sure is that Tyson Daniels visited his younger brother after the murders.
30:44And we can prove that because he was pictured on CCTV.
30:54He's come over to meet up with them.
30:57I can't really say too much more about his brother, but yeah, that's a significant meaning.
31:03I don't think one can overstate the importance of sibling bonds in situations like this, because blood runs thicker than water.
31:12When people grow up together, there's inevitably some sort of bond that occurs and there's a power dynamic which can occur.
31:23I would be wondering how much competition there was between Daniels and his brother, Tyson Daniels, who is also involved in criminal enterprise.
31:33What the male influences in their childhood looks like, whether there was like a domineering parent and what they're like in their intimate relationships as well.
31:48Whatever Sto Daniels motivations, it's incredibly clear that he exerts this vice-like control over others.
32:04That crew did everything he told them.
32:06They followed every instruction, regardless of how brutal and violent it seemed.
32:12There were plenty of opportunities for those friends who were gathered at the TAV that they could have extricated themselves.
32:30They could have told the police, they could have helped Yuliana escape, but they didn't.
32:37And it shows what kind of control was being held over them.
32:42The context under which this happened, where you have one person giving an order and other people acting on it, but no one being the main violent perpetrator, means that everyone then can minimize their own involvement, which seems to be exactly what happened.
33:11You can see people who take a lot of drugs, who become desperate on drugs, are willing to do things they would never have done in their sober lives, steal, destroy things, harm their own family members just to get another opportunity.
33:32Well, likewise, the addiction to the lifestyle as well as the use of drugs can mean that people will be willing to do things they would never have otherwise done.
33:41This whole episode started over a photograph of Stowe Daniels on a mobile phone device taken from a CCTV camera.
34:00And paranoid about his photograph being out there, believing that Corey may have been a police informant and ratting on him or setting him up for something.
34:09It's never been explained properly by Daniels as to why he took the actions that he did.
34:15But I think maybe that's what kicked it off and perhaps mixed in with a little bit of paranoia and perhaps some drug affected thinking.
34:27But then to go from that to kidnap, torture, homicide was a massive escalation that happened very, very quickly and doesn't seem to have any reason whatsoever, especially the involvement of Juliana out of nowhere.
34:47So it became a crazy reaction to this perceived slight that didn't even actually exist.
35:03So after years of this case playing out in various court proceedings and all nine of these accused being convicted for their various roles in this horrific murder,
35:14there comes what is an absolute shock, a twist in the case, a twist that nobody saw coming.
35:22This is what happens when people get involved in drugs.
35:24They become involved with people trafficking drugs.
35:27The drug money must be good over there.
35:31Definitely a cop.
35:33Organised crime members don't think they're going to live to get their superannuation.
35:36The murder convictions of a trio sentenced to life behind bars over the gruesome toolbox killings of two people in 2016 have been overturned on appeal.
35:47The men were first tried in 2021 following the callous deaths of Corey Bretton and Juliana Triscaru, who were tortured, locked in a toolbox and dumped in wetlands in Logan.
35:58The Court of Appeal finding there was a miscarriage of justice and ordering a retrial.
36:02The ringleader, Stowe Daniels, his double murder conviction was set aside on appeal.
36:12He's then granted a retrial.
36:14Then Trent Thrupp, David Tao, also win appeals to have their double murder convictions set aside and they win a retrial.
36:25I don't think anyone saw that coming.
36:26You have to go back to everybody and say, I'm sorry, we have to do this again.
36:33As you can imagine what witnesses are like that one don't want to do it, but to have to come back and do it again.
36:41You can imagine what some of them were like.
36:43The victim's families, to drag them through that horrific story yet again, must be so disheartening and so unforgiving for them.
36:57Because you're talking about people potentially taking months of time.
37:00The families of the victims can really suffer when things continue like this.
37:07Having to rehear all of the gory details of something that happened to their loved one can be very, very difficult.
37:14But it is never truly over for a lot of these families.
37:19It's, of course, disappointing.
37:32My reading of it is, put simply, an error in the instructions that were given to the jurors.
37:38And that those instructions had the potential to be prejudicial.
37:41I don't know that it's like a technicality in the law, but sort of.
37:48I mean, it's not a shortcoming in the evidence, which is good in terms of future prospects for conviction.
37:55It's that the judge made an error.
37:59If you look through all the people, you will see different levels of participation from,
38:04I'm actively going to participate in the torture, pushing them back into the toolbox, through to, I'm really just watching.
38:13But you're still there.
38:15And you're still participating.
38:17And that is one of the big issues in the court case and the retrials is how well that conspiratorial aspects were covered in those previous court cases.
38:28That's your right, as a citizen, to have an argument, a legal argument about the verdict and to hear.
38:37And that will go back to another new trial and that evidence will be retested again.
38:43I think they deserve to be behind bars for the rest of their lives.
38:47For the, for the severity of what they've done to Juliana and Corey.
38:56That's, that's horrible.
38:57That's very horrible what they've done.
39:01Having to hear that how your family member, your daughter, your mum, your cousin has been murdered in that way.
39:08It's like almost watching a horror movie.
39:29Living through a trial like this is one of the most difficult things any family members are put through.
39:36To have to now do it again at a retrial.
39:39It's, it's cruel.
39:45First few years, it was very difficult not having Juliana around.
40:02I even used to dial her number.
40:09And it was ringing.
40:13That's just one of the ways, like, we try to keep Juliana, her memory alive with all of us.
40:25You do hear that often with people who've lost loved ones that, that need to stay connected.
40:37And I think you can't overstate the long-term impact of a crime like this.
40:44And you would never get over knowing what had been done to your loved one in those circumstances.
40:53The sad reality is that the children of these victims have become victims themselves.
41:08They've been deprived of a mother and a father, so people never recover from the magnitude of this type of loss.
41:15Cases like this have terrible consequences.
41:23The way people are impacted by them.
41:26Police officers, even one police officer involved in this case, he left the force afterwards because it just, it had such an impact on him.
41:36As part of his evidence, Detective Tim Lusty had to oversee photographs of the toolbox where he had to return and stand next to it for scale.
41:56Years later, it still smells horribly.
42:07Um, it's not something I will ever forget.
42:12It's hard to describe the smell.
42:14It's just something that gets into your mind.
42:29You, uh, decomposition.
42:34You know, whether it is everybody's probably seen an animal or had an animal, dead bird or lizards or whatever else on the side of the road.
42:43Um, so yes, it will stay with me forever.
42:57Um, yes, along with other things that I've had to deal with.
43:02Um, it's, um, yeah, it's, it, you're never the same after and going through those trials.
43:12Um, it's, it always affects you no matter what happens.
43:19Um, some people deal with it better than others.
43:22And I guess I've reached my point where I just, that's it for me.
43:27Um, I guess I've reached my point where, who I don't know, and the reason is never without you.
43:29The reason is is why I'm telling my point where I want to stay here.
43:31I've relationships with my point of view and I would have to get down once.
43:32This isもう, of course, with my point within the company.
43:34A lot of friends with my point in the trust bundle, both the people whoermaid and Peruvol
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