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00:00Hiya, I'm Kai and Sean from NME and we're here with Poser, the youngest in charge apparently.
00:13That's so proclaimed. I'm getting old.
00:19Yeah, on stage, that's what I believe, either your hype man or your DJ, I wasn't come,
00:25there's a lot of people saying, but like, you've only been around for a year and you've already
00:28broken chart history, like, how is that? So real, I'll be honest with you, I never thought
00:34within the first year I'd be doing that. So it's just been, it's like a learning experience,
00:41everything I'm doing, I'll be real, but I enjoy it a lot, a lot.
00:44What do you enjoy? What's some of the perks?
00:48Performing is definitely one of man's perks. I like performing. It's fun, it's just fun.
00:54One of the perks I enjoy the most is like networking, meeting better people and that.
01:00And then just meeting people who like my music in general, I'd say that's the perks of the job.
01:07Another perk is definitely money, the drip. It's lit, it's lit. I love it.
01:12Yeah. Because being a boy from Croydon, like, did you ever think you'd like be on the Reading
01:18or be on the Reading stage?
01:20This is my first time being, I didn't, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:24This, this was a dream. This was a dream still. And that's true.
01:28Yeah. Okay. So I wanted to get into like your sound a little bit.
01:32Um, it's obviously like very like Jersey, maybe US, like trap slash drill inspired.
01:40Most of.
01:41Yeah. I wonder like what drew you to that? How did you discover that?
01:45Um, I think that sound, there's a lot, you know, like UK drill and that says when I'm listening to music,
01:51I'm looking for, you know, the neighbouring sounds.
01:53So I'm finding songs that sound like us in like New York.
01:57There's a lot, there's just a lot of us elsewhere across the water in it.
02:01So I think that's where I take a lot of my inspiration from because it's very similar.
02:05Yeah. But did you ever like wonder or worry maybe that like, oh, it looks like you're trying to copy or like.
02:12Nah, because it's too original. Mine's too original.
02:17It sounds like UK. Do you know what I mean?
02:20It sounds like UK. Doesn't, it doesn't, I'm not trying to be American.
02:23So I think that's where you find like the clear divide is, nah, it doesn't sound the same.
02:30Yeah. I will say like, especially like your accent, you can't shy away from it.
02:33Like you very much lean into the fact that you're a South Londoner.
02:37Yeah. Yeah.
02:38Yeah. You're very South.
02:38The way with pride.
02:40Yeah.
02:40Have to, have to.
02:42Although like South's not that great, is it?
02:45Like I feel like South Londoners have too much pride.
02:47Like it's, no, it's, it's, it's niche. You know what I mean? It's got its little pockets. You know what I mean?
02:55It's South is nice, but it's one of them places where, you know, like you, you, you love to hate it, hate to love it.
02:59So it's one of them ones.
03:02Maybe I'm just jealous of it. Cause when West, when everyone's like, oh, where's West London? Nobody shouts in the club.
03:07Whereas when everyone's like, who's from South London? It was just like.
03:10Where are you from in West?
03:12Hounslow.
03:12Yeah. Hounslow don't really get too, too, too many shout outs, but you could change that. You've got to put it on the map.
03:20That's why I'm flagging South and Croydon. You've got to put it on the map. Have to.
03:24With the fact that like Jersey drill, especially that, which is it correct to say like your sound is very Jersey drill?
03:30Of course. Yeah. Yeah.
03:31Yeah. Um, with that being like trendy at the time you hopped on it, did you ever worry that like your stardom might shy away, flee away?
03:43I made it trendy. Oh, go on. I made it trendy here at least. I'll say that. I'll say that. But do you know what it is as well, yeah? It's, I feel like Jersey speaks volume. Do you know what I mean?
03:56Like people don't speak English, can listen to Jersey and still like it because you can still feel the music. Do you know what I mean?
04:03Yeah.
04:04It's not a lot. You didn't get lost in transit.
04:07It's like a universal frequency type thing.
04:10You said it better than me. You said it better than me.
04:13I mean, you're the lyricist, but, um, to get into your lyrics and stuff, I definitely like, like everyone likes a good time and like, you're always talking about shaking the ash and, you know, booty shaking and stuff in the club.
04:27Firstly, I want to ask, do you really love the club that much?
04:30Club? No. Club. I like, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a once I'm there kind of person. Do you know what I mean?
04:37And get, get a shot in and then the vibes is rolling. I'm here now. Do you get what I mean? But normally speaking, nah, nah, nah. I do like it though. I do, I do, I do. So it's, I'm, I'm in a catch 22. It's like 50, 50.
04:50Yeah. So you're not really lying when you're like, oh, I'm the baddest in the, like.
04:53I'm a soldier. Nah, I'm, I'm.
04:56You're about it, but I'm about it.
04:58I'm a chill guy. I'm a chill guy. Yeah.
05:00If I was to ask you, like, what's the secret or something that would shock people if you was to tell them? Because for some reason, I feel like you're a secret nerd.
05:09I'm a comedian.
05:10Mm.
05:11I'm a comedian. Yeah.
05:13Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm funny as hell. Very, very funny. A little bit of a troll. My brethren know me. I'm a troll.
05:20So, um, I try not to take a lot of things serious, but I don't know, like, I'm funny. That's it. I'm just funny as hell.
05:31Um, to go back to the lyrics though, like, you have, like, this hedonistic, it's all about, like, going, partying, like, living your life, da-da-da-da.
05:39But then when you, when we go to your recent EP, right, and follow, look at the song, Follow Your Dreams, it's, like, very much motivational, like, or speaking from a different part of you?
05:53Yeah. Life is full up of more than one thing. So I try to involve it in the music. Do you get what I mean? It's all the aspects of it, I guess.
06:00You know, like, you want to chase your dreams, you know, be motivated and productive and that. I do like going out. I'm having a kickback, let the hair down, you know what I mean?
06:10So it's both, it's both sides of it all.
06:13I wanted to talk a bit about, you know, you having features from two of, like, UK Rapp's biggest rappers.
06:19Yes, yes.
06:20H and AJ Tracy.
06:21Big em up.
06:22Yeah. How is it like, again, we keep coming back to the fact that, like, you're a year in.
06:26In that year, you've got two of the biggest coastlines you could from your, well, not ends, but your scene.
06:35Yeah.
06:36How does that feel, like?
06:38It was at the time as well, yeah, because I was, like, I'd just dropped Kitchen.
06:42So when I'd kind of locked in with AJ, still very fresh in the scene.
06:47So that is just, it's like a, and I used to listen to him, innit?
06:52So it was like a fanboy moment, I'll be honest, I had to contain myself.
06:57I'm working with you now, but I actually like your music, I used to, you know what I mean?
07:01So it's that, it's pretty much the same thing.
07:05It was, it's all just been learning, it's a learning experience more than anything,
07:10because you better step up to the plate, you know, you're with the big boys, innit?
07:13But I've enjoyed doing that, I've enjoyed doing that a lot, and shout them out every time,
07:18show them my love.
07:19How is it like making Kitchen Stove? Do you remember the day you made Kitchen Stove?
07:24Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kitchen, kitchen, I compiled it.
07:29I never used to have time, you know what I mean? I'm busy.
07:31So I just put bits and bits and bits together, and if I did have the time,
07:37I'd sit there and cultivate it.
07:40I actually sat there with that song. It's my baby.
07:43It's my favourite till now.
07:44Oh, still?
07:45Yeah.
07:45And it's the one that kick-started your career, so like, it's hella sentimental to you.
07:50Very, very, very.
07:51Yeah.
07:51Very.
07:52And then when you put it out, how, did you want it to blow?
07:54Did you feel like it was gonna be the hit it was?
07:56Not to the extent that it's gone, no.
08:01No, this is crazy.
08:03I thought it would do well, that it would be recepted, maybe like 100,000 views, if that.
08:09But for where it's gone now, I'd never imagine that.
08:13Yeah.
08:14Okay.
08:14So, for the fans that want to get to know you a little bit more, I'm going to ask you
08:17like a few, maybe a little generic, maybe other people have asked you these questions,
08:21but, you know, they've not been asked by me.
08:24Yeah, yeah, of course.
08:25But I wonder, who's some of your influences when it comes to making music?
08:30I'd say like Max B, definitely like Nines and Scraps, Young Ads, Dirt by LB.
08:40Um, but for my sound specifically, I don't really look.
08:47You don't look outwards, yeah.
08:48I'd say anything.
08:50Yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:51But those, the way that they, I don't know, it's a thing that you have, you know what I
08:58mean?
08:58Like the way that they can convey their music and you get the message, it's hard hitting,
09:03they can make hits as well.
09:04That there is, um, it's inspiring.
09:08Inspiring.
09:09Yeah.
09:09Um, I like the fact that you brought up Max B.
09:12I feel like in the UK scene, not many people like will cite Max B as an inspiration, but
09:18like wave rap, even our wave rap, like very much is inspired by Max B.
09:23Like what is it specifically about his melodic style?
09:27Everything.
09:28Yeah.
09:29Everything about Max B.
09:30I used to listen to Max B in secondary.
09:32You know, when you, the earphones up your sleeve and I'm trying to be naughty listening
09:37to Max B. So he's, I think he's an influencer before we put a name to it. Do you get what
09:42I mean? He's very influential. He's very influential. So I just, even his music is original. It's true
09:48to him. There is no guideline with Max B's music. I think he made it. That's why I like
09:54it. He made his lane.
09:55Yeah. How do you just cover like Max B in school?
09:59My mum.
10:00Ah.
10:00My mum. I'm an old soul.
10:03Oh.
10:03I'm an old soul star.
10:04Like back of the car type thing?
10:05Yeah. Literally that. Literally that. I had, she downloaded his CD on my PlayStation. So
10:12I had his music. So it was like that.
10:14Of course, you've had like all this success with Kitchen Stove, the chart history. You're
10:20with these big shotters like AJ Tracy and H. But are you like looking into the future a
10:25bit? Like what are your goals with this music thing?
10:29I want to be like the figurehead in the UK. You know, when you think UK rap, you have to
10:34think man. But like on a grand scale, there's no debate in it. I want hits. I want hits.
10:41I want summertime vibe. You know what I mean? I want an anthem. I want to do everything really.
10:49I'll just reach the highest pinnacle I can do in music and then see what's next.
10:54Do you have any like stepping stones or like know how you're going to get there?
10:58Trust the process, make good music and yeah,
11:04man, do good business. Don't, don't, don't be a side man. Don't be a side man.
11:10I just thought of this question, but I wanted to know like, you love Japan, don't you?
11:18I'm a little dweeb. That's that, yeah, to go back to the other question. I'm a slightly
11:22a little dweeb.
11:23That's your, that's another secret about you.
11:25Yeah. Yeah. I'm an anime killer.
11:27You know how I knew? How? You had, um, I can't, I don't know the actual name of the
11:32song, like off the top of my head, but it was from Samurai Shampoo.
11:35Shiki no Uta.
11:37Yeah. That is dweeb energy right there. Yeah. I love the fact that you knew the name.
11:42Yeah, that, slightly little dweeb and, uh, Hunter, Hunter and, uh, I watch all of them.
11:48Oh. Give me like your top three animes, mangas, whatever it is.
11:53Hunter, Hunter x Hunter, um, Yu Yu Hakusho. What else is there? And Naruto. Shippuden, Shippuden.
12:03I'm a fairy tale, Death Note and Dead Man's Wonderland.
12:08You're lit. You're lit. You're lit. You're lit. You're lit.
12:10Thank you. I've seen them.
12:11I'm, I'm happy I have some cred now.
12:13You're lit. No, cause I, I know what you're on.
12:16Yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:18Um, yeah. Also like, you said RIP Hulk Hogan the other day on Instagram and I was like,
12:23hmm, wrestling fan?
12:24Crazy. Yeah, very big. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like WWE though. Now, now, I don't know, there's
12:29too many new guys. I'm not keeping up, but Rey Mysterio is still my
12:33favourite till now. Till now.
12:35Do you remember when like, um, the great Khalid squished his head?
12:39Yeah.
12:39Yeah.
12:40Oh, no, yeah, yeah. That, that was a mad fight. That was a mad fight. I remember that.
12:45I remember I went to primary school. I told my teacher, I was like, I'm so upset. Rey Mysterio died.
12:53Nah, that's mad. I think, nah, I used to love Rey Mysterio. I used to love Rey Mysterio.
12:59What is it about wrestling that you like, if we still like it?
13:03It's too much. You know what it is, yeah? It's, you're running around, smacking, it's,
13:07you know what I mean? It's just lit and then they start flying and that. So they're jumping
13:11off of the turnbuckle and, uh, and I was young. So I'm, I'm playing the games. I'm, I'm in
13:16my grandma's, yeah, jumping off my sofa. But yeah, I like WWE. Yeah. Active. I wanted
13:24to know, how did you fall in love with music? Like what's one of your earliest, earliest
13:29memories with music?
13:32Music is my therapy. Music is my therapy. Um, from young, innit? My mum listened to Bear
13:38music from young and she'd, we'd go to bed and she'd just bang tunes. What type of
13:43tunes? Come on, tell us. R&B, house, D&B, like it's just a mixture. Um, blues, we could
13:52be listening to Beyonce and then she'll just switch it to jungle. Like it's a mixture.
13:57So I always grew up around music and then it just became a therapy thing for me. I guess
14:03it's just, I like doing it. It's an outlet more than anything. Yeah. And then ended up
14:08here. Yeah. So how did you get into like making music? Do you remember the memory where you
14:13made your first song? Kitchen, kitchen stove. Kitchen stove is legit like. My first proper
14:18studio session. I'm, I'm trying to think like before that, maybe the first time you even
14:23wrote lyrics ever. Oh, primary school. Or spit bars. Primary school. Yeah. Yeah. Quite
14:30in trouble for those. I've been in trouble for writing bars a lot of times, a lot of times.
14:36Secondary was one of the biggest ones. Do you remember any of them? The bars? Yeah. Mine's
14:41not. There's a reason I got in trouble for the bars. Oh. There's a reason. But, um, yeah,
14:48I got a big detention for that. I remember that. And, um, a question I like to ask all, like
14:56all artists I can. Um, what was the moment where you realised, you know what, I should
15:01keep going at this music thing? Was it when you saw like kitchen stove reached its first
15:07hundred plays, hundred thousand plays? Was it when you put it out and you felt accomplished
15:13or? I don't know. I'm just giving ideas. Yeah. Um, I would say when, I say when I want
15:19a MOBO, that was the, like, the stamp in it all. That was the, like, approval. Like,
15:25yeah, man, carry on. It was that, I'll be honest. Yeah. How was it like winning the
15:31MOBO, like? That was surreal. That was surreal because I didn't, I didn't believe it when
15:36they announced it and told me. I thought they were lying. I thought they were trolling
15:39for the vibes. But, um, I won it and I don't like saying it because it, actually, it shouldn't
15:47be that fickle. Do you get what I mean? But it put everything into, like, verification for
15:52me. Do you get what I mean? It's stamped and continued. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, all the more
15:59success to you. Thank you. And you too. Oh, thank you. I've had a ball sitting there. Pardon?
16:04I've had a ball sitting there with you. Oh, thank you. It's been lit. Yeah.
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