Is Patrick Mahomes Already a Hall of Famer? Debate Heats Up

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00:00George is going to have to weigh in.

00:01Maybe he's shifted his opinion here.

00:04And you know what?

00:05I'm going to go off the grid here on SportsGrid.

00:08I'm going first.

00:09If Patrick Mahomes' career ended right now,

00:13he would be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

00:16Now, there's a lot of you out there that are watching

00:19that are like, how is this even a question?

00:21I know you are.

00:23But you're going to hear from my co-host, George Kurtz, in a minute.

00:25But let me go first.

00:26First, Patrick Mahomes has won multiple Super Bowls.

00:31He's been the very best or one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL

00:34for almost eight years, with the exception of last season.

00:39If he never played another down in the NFL,

00:43his career is better than a guy who also won a Super Bowl in Kurt Warner.

00:50Patrick Mahomes is a first ballot Hall of Famer, period.

00:56End of story.

00:58Bye.

00:59George?

01:03So many things to go off here.

01:05First off, there should be no such things as first ballot Hall of Famers.

01:09All right?

01:09Either you are a Hall of Famer or you're not a Hall of Famer.

01:11By the way, first ballot, this is weird to me.

01:15But I do get the honor there.

01:16He will be a Hall of Famer.

01:17If he stopped right now, we talked about it last year,

01:20so he has another year under his belt.

01:22Well, he's getting closer to me, but you've got to play –

01:24I think he has to play at least 10 years for me.

01:26You have to play 10 years.

01:28What's he going to do, 9?

01:29There.

01:30Do we count the first year where he played one game?

01:34I guess you do.

01:35Technically, I guess you do.

01:36Sort of.

01:37So he's 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

01:39So he's 8.

01:40So he's getting close to me.

01:42I'm not denying he will be a Hall of Famer.

01:44I'm just saying he ended right now.

01:45He's certainly getting closer.

01:46But 10 years to me, I don't see how you can get it without 10 years.

01:50And by the way, I don't think Kurt Warner is a Hall of Famer.

01:52Period.

01:52Right.

01:53I understand.

01:53But he is.

01:54But he is.

01:55Right.

01:56But I am a very tough Hall of –

01:58I think the Hall of Famer has to be the greatest of the great.

02:00I know.

02:01I would take guys out before I put them in.

02:03I have no doubt the Bulls will be that when he retires.

02:07I get it.

02:07But right now, no, I wouldn't.

02:09And I don't care how many Super Bowls you won, by the way.

02:11I hate that.

02:12This is Dan Marino.

02:12No, I hate it.

02:14We're going to throw Trent Dilfer in there.

02:15No.

02:16Eli Manning's not a Hall of Famer, by the way.

02:18He's not.

02:19No one's taken Eli Manning on their team, by the way,

02:21over any of the quarterbacks that were available back then.

02:24Brett Favre's of the world.

02:26No.

02:27No.

02:28He will be, but not quite yet.

02:29But he's getting closer.

02:30I hate to do this, but why was Brett Favre a Hall of Famer?

02:35Well, his numbers are fantastic.

02:37He is a top-

02:38He did more than anybody ever.

02:40He was a gunslinger, right?

02:42He didn't care.

02:43I know.

02:43I'm just saying, like, if Brett Favre, George, was in the NFL right now, doing the things

02:51that he did back then, he's Jameis Winston.

02:55He's not allowed to play in the NFL, growing 25 picks a season.

03:00He's not.

03:01I think Favre's a Hall of Famer, too.

03:03I'm not saying he's not.

03:04All I'm saying is that you're too tough.

03:08Your criteria is-

03:09Imagine 36 at deceptions.

03:10Yeah.

03:11That's a lot.

03:14And this team is 36.

03:16And it's like, oh, you're benched.

03:18He threw 30 picks a year.

03:21Let's see.

03:22Yeah.

03:22He threw 24, 23, 23, 29, 22.

03:27Oh, wow.

03:2820.

03:28Wow.

03:29Yeah.

03:31Yeah.

03:32Oh, that's a sense for you.

03:33And by the way, 100% for me.

03:36I'm just saying that the criteria is different now.

03:40It is.

03:40Than what it was then.

03:42And that's why I got Mahomes so far ahead of these other guys.

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