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Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Friday inaugurated three new metro links in Kolkata, a significant infrastructure development for the city.
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00:00Hello and welcome. I'm Sonal Merotra Kapoor. This is 5 Live. Let's cut across straight to live visuals now coming in from Kolkata where the Prime Minister is inaugurating the over 13 kilometers of the new metro line that is happening over there. You see pictures over there as he's reviewing before he finally goes in to cut that ribbon. This is marking one of the biggest single day additions to Kolkata's urban transport.
00:26The Prime Minister has had a busy day in the morning. He was in Bihar and now in Bengal where he's inaugurating the Kolkata metro line, the new line over there. Interestingly, you do not see the West Bengal Chief Minister. In fact, she had said a couple of days ago that she will not be there and there you go. The visuals have come in.
00:48The Prime Minister has now waved that green flag for Kolkata's new metro line that's now been inaugurating and underway.
01:01Alright, like we said, this has been an interesting one. The new lines, let's tell you a little bit more about them. This metro line, it will cut a 50-minute road journey to just 11 minutes while the airport commute will also drop from the main heart of the city all the way to just 30 minutes.
01:27So, massive relief there for residents of Kolkata. Today, of course, the Prime Minister himself there to inaugurate that line.
01:36Like I said, very fascinating that the Kolkata Chief Minister, the West Bengal Chief Minister is not there. Somebody who's already been Railways Minister in the past as well.
01:49Politically, we are told not aligned on the issue, although what's the reason? That's been the official one is yet to be known.
01:59Let's cut across to Indrajit now, joining us from Kolkata for more. Indrajit, we just got live visuals of the Prime Minister inaugurating the metro line.
02:09Said to be a huge relief for residents of Kolkata. What exactly is this supposed to do for them? How much of a time saviour this is going to be?
02:21Well, Sonal, it's been a long, long wait for the people of Kolkata. You know, Kolkata was the first city to get a metro service in the country.
02:33But it has been a four-decade-long wait for the city to finally get the metro railway connection to the Kolkata airport.
02:41Now, that has been realised and it's a major, major infrastructure push for the city.
02:47You would now be able to reach the Kolkata airport using a metro line and that's important.
02:54And what's also important is that Kolkata and its twin city, Havra, it had already been connected a few years back through the underground metro,
03:03which is also a big highlight. It's the first underground metro in the country.
03:07The full length of that underground metro system from the Havra station on the other side of the Hooghly River to the Sialda station in Kolkata and now to the airport.
03:18So, the entire stretch from Havra to Kolkata airport will now become operational.
03:23Prime Minister Narendra Modi, as we have just seen, has flagged off this prestigious metro route.
03:30There are three segments which has been inaugurated by the Prime Minister today, of which the most prestigious one, of course, is the connection to the Kolkata airport.
03:40Indraji, it's been quite a poetic year for Kolkata, right?
03:46The year the trams went off, metro has come in.
03:51And in the middle of all of that, you only see the central government and no participation of the state government either.
03:58What is that telling us?
04:00Well, you know, this is on expected lines.
04:06Given the kind of polarized politics that we've been witnessing in West Bengal over the past few years,
04:12this was clearly on expected lines.
04:14Of course, the Chief Minister skipping this inauguration.
04:18The Prime Minister, he's here in Kolkata inaugurating this project and giving it to the nation.
04:23And we see a credit war that has now unfolded on social media.
04:28Just a short while back, Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee went on social media on her ex-handle saying that she feels nostalgic because all these, you know, connections to the suburb and the airport connection,
04:40these were something that she had announced when she was the railway minister, but they have now been materialized under the Modi government.
04:48And the Prime Minister is the one who is inaugurating it.
04:51So, it would have been a nice photo of how the Chief Minister and Prime Minister were seen both doing it together.
04:57Nonetheless, realpolitik playing itself out on ground.
05:01Yeah, though the Prime Minister is inaugurating it, I just want to get the record straight.
05:04The invitation was given, the Chief Minister was expected to be there and she chose not to.
05:10Is that safe to say?
05:14Well, that's right.
05:15You know, officially there was an invitation that was sent to the West Bengal Chief Minister for the official programme,
05:21just as an invitation was given to the Governor of West Bengal.
05:25But, the West Bengal Chief Minister has officially decided not to be part of that programme.
05:31And what we are given to understand from sources within the government and the Trinidad Moor Congress is that there is a grievance.
05:38A lot of central funds are pending and they believe that this has not been released by the central government, by the Modi government.
05:45They say it's a step-motherly attitude and therefore, in order to drive home or protest,
05:50therefore, Mamata Banerjee has decided to skip this inauguration ceremony.
05:54All right, indeed, we'll leave it over there.
05:56But politics aside, it's a welcome step for the citizens of Kolkata.
06:00And like I said, quite a poetic here.
06:02Trams have gone off the road.
06:04Perhaps the last city is to have the trams.
06:06And now, Metro has taken its place, being inaugurated now as we speak in West Bengal.
06:12All right, so that was the live update coming to you on top of five.
06:25But over the next one hour, we'll be bringing you five stories that demand your time.
06:30Five stories that should ignite you and five stories that inspire your healthiest, happiest life.
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06:39Let's tell you what's lined up on the programme today.
06:41Supreme Court gives out a balanced verdict.
06:46If you care for the strays, adopt them.
06:49No more feeding them anywhere and they will be released after sterilisation.
06:57Prime Minister Kickstarts' Bihar campaign spoke about a host of issues,
07:01saying no one will give orders from jail.
07:04He will.
07:05In fact, he is in Bengal as we speak to inaugurate the metro services.
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08:11First up, the issue that has divided the country.
08:19But now the Supreme Court has spoken that you can love them, you can hate them, but you need to follow a decorum with dogs.
08:28An extremely balanced view, which so far has got cheering on both sides.
08:34So let's tell you the top five things that you need to know from the verdict this morning.
08:39The Supreme Court has rolled back its earlier directive mandating permanent sheltering of stray dogs in Delhi NCR.
08:46And now dogs that are sterilized, that are vaccinated and dewormed can be returned to their original areas.
08:54However, those exhibiting aggressive behavior, signs of rabies must be confined and kept in the shelters.
09:02Point number two to remember from the order.
09:06Feeding stray dogs is a big debate there.
09:09On streets is no longer allowed.
09:12Instead, municipal bodies must establish clearly marked designated freezing or sort of feeding zones, structure to manage and monitor such activities.
09:24So if you were out there to feed your dog outside your colony, you cannot anymore.
09:28Number three, the court has also expanded the case to color all of India.
09:35It's calling for a national policy aligned with the ABC rules and has pulled in stray dog cases from high courts to streamline the decision.
09:45So this is now Pan India.
09:47Number four, India's biggest allocation yet will go towards setting up helplines, upgrading sterilization centers and holding municipality accountable of any kind of human stray dog control or conflict that happens.
10:062,500 crore push has been made.
10:09And number five, the court has moved away from reactionary crackdown on stray dogs.
10:18Instead, it's pushing for a science-backed human approach, one that protects people without resorting to mass removals or cruelty.
10:29So those were the top five things that you needed to know from that Supreme Court order.
10:37Here's a detailed report to take you through all the details.
10:40And the strays of Delhi NCR have had their fates rewritten, a decision that brings supreme relief to animal lovers, but fuels fresh concerns for public safety.
11:00The much-awaited Supreme Court order is out.
11:03All stray dogs picked up must be sterilized, immunized and then released back.
11:10But there's one exception.
11:13Aggressive or rabid dogs will not return to the streets.
11:17They will stay in shelters.
11:19Adding on, the court has drawn a hard line on feeding strays.
11:37No feeding in public spaces, only in designated zones which are to be identified in every municipal block.
11:46Any violation will invite action.
12:03The court also encouraged adoption of strays, urging citizens and NGOs to take responsibility.
12:10Dog lovers call it a balanced judgment.
12:25Some even promise to help, sterilize, feed and manage the strays.
12:29But critics ask, who decides which dog is aggressive?
12:47They argue shelters may be costly, but public safety is priceless.
12:52So while the court has chosen streets over shelters for Delhi's strays, the question now is, will municipalities rise to the challenge?
13:14Or will the city's strays saga continue to chase its own tale?
13:20With Srishti Ojha and Srivani Sharma, Bureau Report, India Today.
13:44That means there will be clearing out of the strays from other spaces, especially residential societies.
13:51Now, joining us next is Shivani Sharma.
13:54She's a line trainer, pet parenting consultant as well.
13:57Shivani, it's a welcome order.
13:59Perhaps the Supreme Court has done, which a lot of people thought they could not, which is keep both sides happy.
14:05The one key issue that stood out for me in the order was the fact that Supreme Court says, if you love them, adopt them.
14:14Take responsibility for them.
14:16Don't just let go of your instincts of, you know, of taking care of a dog by feeding them.
14:24What do you have to say about that?
14:26How many people are really ready today to adopt a stray?
14:29Um, so to begin with, I want to understand when they say adopt, do they mean they want the animals to be taken inside our homes?
14:38Or can it be a passive adoption where I look after my community animals, I pay for their upkeep, but they are technically adopted by me, but they remain where they are.
14:49So it has to, it has to be a practical adoption.
14:52I don't think that people are completely ready to take so many dogs home, but they can be passive adoptions where I can just say, yes, I'm responsible for a community pack of dogs.
15:04And yes, these are technically not adopted by me, but yes, under my care.
15:09So I'm not sure, but from what I understood, they meant that you've got to adopt them.
15:14That means they stay in your house, not, not just on the street.
15:18So that's, that's, that's my understanding at least so far.
15:22So I feel that's not a very practical ask.
15:25And it's not really fair to have such a demand where you say our love is justified only when we take them home.
15:31I think our love can be expressed while they are where they are.
15:35Shivani, another issue that a lot of residents have complained about, RWA, one after the other really speaks of is,
15:42why are we feeding the dogs in unverified location, in locations, which perhaps might have a lot of kids coming in.
15:52And you know, the behavior of an animal, they're scavengers by nature.
15:56But if they know that this is where they're going to get food and the day they don't, they might get aggressive.
16:01That's another trait that we've known.
16:02So on these designated areas, any clarity perhaps that you have or what in your mind should be done of these designated areas that the MCD now has to decide?
16:14So understanding that dogs are territorial animals, we have to be very, very mindful that our community is shared by multiple packs who are now, you know, sort of competing with each other for limited, very small patches of areas.
16:30But at the same time, if you're going to confine these dogs to designated feeding areas, I really hope that it is in proportion to the number of dogs.
16:40Because if we don't do it in proportion to the number of dogs that that area actually has, it's going to be absolute chaos to, you know, concentrate all the packs to a designated area without having a calculation.
16:53Because while I understand that, yes, there should be a difference between where the residents are residing and where the dogs are, you know, feeding and, you know, doing things.
17:04I feel that the designated feeding areas that the MCD plants has to be very, very well planned.
17:13It cannot just be one area per ward and just move on.
17:16I think that's going to create more chaos than it is at the moment.
17:19Because right now when dogs are okay in their territories being fed, they are a lot more calmer and a lot more at peace knowing that, okay, you know, our area is protected and we are well fed where we are.
17:30So what I'm hearing from you is that though this order has come out with a very balanced view, there are still a lot of loopholes, there are still a lot of questions that remain unanswered.
17:44That's one thing I'm picking up from what you've said.
17:46And the other bit, if I can ask you, since the previous order, have you sensed any change on the ground?
17:54Are you seeing dogs or strays, for example, around your area actually being picked up?
18:03Firstly, yes, I do see a lot of loopholes.
18:06I wasn't entirely very happy about the stay when I heard of it.
18:12I do want to understand what exactly are they, you know, defining a rabid dog as?
18:18What are they defining an aggressive dog as?
18:20Are the complaints, valid complaints that are going up?
18:25Fortunately, I in my area haven't heard of any dog being missing.
18:29But I do sense a lot of stress amongst feeders and caretakers about, you know, the care, the presence of their dog.
18:38So the feeders have become extra alert.
18:40They have basically put in a word to guards and shopkeepers to keep an eye for their dogs,
18:44because they can't be there at all times.
18:46But I do sense a lot of loopholes and I'm genuinely worried about that,
18:51because till the time we don't have clarity on what are the definitions that the Supreme Court wants to put about aggression.
18:57What is your definition of a rabid dog?
18:59What are the signs you're going to be looking at?
19:01What sort of testing are you putting these dogs through before they are pounded?
19:05I am genuinely concerned about these, you know, missing links.
19:10Valid points there, Shivani.
19:12You also are a pet parent consultant, right?
19:15For a lot of people watching right now who want to take up strays and we can't stress enough on it, right?
19:22Like take up an Indy, don't go for a fancy breed, help those who are already out there
19:27and pick up a, you know, a smaller dog, a pup, if, you know, possible, instead of a big one,
19:34because then they find adjustment to a home very, very difficult.
19:38With these things in mind, for somebody who's curious about sort of adopting a dog at this point from the road,
19:45from one of the strays, what would you tell them?
19:48Shristi, I feel it's absolutely possible for us to get a stray home.
19:53In fact, I would like to clarify that age for me is no bar.
19:58Even if an animal has spent quite an amount of time on the street, it's not difficult to resettle it at home.
20:05So, behaviorally, it is possible for me to get slightly older dogs as well.
20:09I won't just focus on puppies.
20:11I have personally rehabilitated plenty strayed animals who've been rescued
20:17and couldn't be put back on the streets for multiple reasons.
20:20So, it is definitely doable.
20:23I would really urge people to come forward and look at Indies as potential companions.
20:28They're amazing pet dogs.
20:30They're one of the smartest breeds that we worked with as behaviorists.
20:33And they're extremely, extremely good companion pet dogs if they're not looked at the way the country is looking at them right now.
20:42I think there's a lot of stigma that is attached to this breed.
20:45And I really hope that behaviorists and animal welfare workers work towards changing this perspective that people have against them.
20:52Yeah, Shivani, but not always, right?
20:54There are cases that we hear of where adoption gets really difficult as well.
21:00And that's where perhaps the whole concept of how are we training about pet parents comes into being.
21:08So, any advice to them?
21:09So, adoption has to be well planned.
21:14Now that the Supreme Court has also said that once an adopted dog cannot be released back,
21:20I think it has to be extremely, extremely thoughtfully done.
21:23I need the families to prepare to sort of do some research before they look at this.
21:29Because with these adoptions come a lot of responsibilities.
21:32And I would expect the families to have basic education of what they're signing up for.
21:38So, it is a thoughtful decision that I want them.
21:42That is my only advice.
21:43To please plan before you take up and take this on.
21:47All right.
21:47That's sound advice there.
21:48Thank you so much for joining us, Shivani, with all those details.
21:52Here's to everybody watching.
21:54Whoever is curious about getting one of those trays home,
21:56please do it with a lot of responsibility and get help whenever required.
22:02All right.
22:02Let's move on to the next big story here on 5 Live.
22:06And we'll cut back to what the politics has been all about.
22:10Prime Minister Narendra Modi, during a visit to election-bound Bihar on Friday,
22:14took a sharp dig at the RJD, invoking its past rule as a lantern era
22:20and accusing it of plunging the state into darkness, lawlessness and backwardness.
22:26Sort of backing the proposed bill to bar those with criminal backgrounds from contesting election,
22:33Prime Minister said in a court, no one can give orders from jail.
22:36He also targeted the parties that he claimed treat Bihar's people merely as vote bank
22:42while ignoring their aspirations, dignity and development.
22:47Here's a report.
22:50Listen in very quickly to what the Prime Minister said.
22:54Listen in very quickly,
23:25벤.
23:25We've written this
23:43Here's a report.
23:52ब्रस्ता चार के विर्व लड़ाई कैसे लड़ी जा सकती है?
23:57साथियों, संभिधान हर जन प्रतिनीती से
24:03इमानदारी और पारदर्शिता की उम्मीद करता है.
24:11हम संभिधान की मर्यादा को तार-तार होते नहीं देख सकते.
24:17इसलिए NDA सरकार बरस्ता चार के खिलाप एक ऐसा कानून लाई है
24:29जिसके दाइरे में देश का प्रधान मंत्री भी है
24:36इस कानून में मुख्य मंत्रियों और मंत्रियों को भी शामिल किया गया है
24:45जब ये कानून बन जाएगा
24:49तो प्रधान मंत्री हो या मुख्य मंत्री
24:53या फिर कोई भी मंत्री
24:56उसे गिरब तारी के 30 दिने के अंदार जमानत लेनी होगी
25:04और अगर जमानत नहीं मिली
25:07तो 31 दिन उसे कुरसी छोड़नी पड़ेगी
25:14ये आरजेडी वाले
25:16ये कॉंग्रेस वाले
25:20ये लेप्ट वाले
25:22इस कानून का विरोध कर रहे हैं
25:26ये बहुत घुशे में हैं
25:31और कौन नहीं जानता उनको किस बात का डर है
25:38जिसने पाप किया होता है
25:44वो अपने पाप को दूसरों से चुपाता है
25:50लेकिन खुद को भीतर से जानता है कि क्या खेल खेला है
25:55इन सब का भी यही हिताब है
26:00हमारे देश में कॉंग्रेस हो
26:04आरजेडी हो
26:07इनकी सरकारों ने कभी
26:10जनता के पैसे का मोल नहीं समझा
26:15इनके लिए
26:18जनता के पैसे का मतलब रहा है
26:22खुद की तीजोरी भरना
26:25इसलिए
26:27कॉंग्रेस आरजेडी की सरकारों में
26:32सालों साल तक
26:35परियोजनाय पूरी नहीं होती थी
26:39अब इस गलत सोच को भी
26:42NDA सरकार ने
26:45बदल दिया है
26:47अब सिलान न्यास के बाद
26:51कोशिज होती है
26:53जल्द से जल्द
26:57समय सिमा में
27:00उस काम को पूरा करने के लिए
27:03सफल प्रयास किया जाए
27:07मैंने लाल किरे से एक और खत्रे की बात की है
27:12और ये खत्रा बिहार पर भी है
27:18देश में गुष पेठियों की बढ़ती संख्या
27:25चिंता का विशय है
27:28बिहार के सीमा वरती जिलों में
27:34तेजी से डेमोग्राफी बदल रही है
27:38इसलिए NDA सरकार ने ताय किया है
27:43कि देश का भविश्या
27:47गुष पेठियों को नहीं ताय करने देंगे
27:53गुष पेठियों को
27:57बिहार के युवाओं के रोजगार नहीं चिनने देंगे
28:02जिन सुविदों पर
28:06बारतिय लोगों का दिकार है
28:10उस पर गुष पेठियों को डाकान नहीं डालने देंगे
28:15इस खत्रे से निपट्डे के लिए
28:20मैंने डेमोग्राफी मिशन शुरू करने की बात कही है
28:25बहुत जल्द
28:28ये मिशन अपना काम शुरू करेगा
28:31हम हर गुष पेठियों को बेस से बार करके ही रहेंगे
28:39All right, let's cut across Rohit Singh now joining us from Patna for more details on this story
28:45Rohit, couple of news points that come out of the Prime Minister's speech here
28:49but one of the biggest one being the Antigraf Bill of course
28:52do you think it's cutting base with people in Bihar?
28:56Would that be one of the major sort of narratives that drive this election
29:02or is it getting more hyper-local?
29:09Well see, corruption has always been a big issue in Bihar as far as RJD Supremo Lalu Prasad
29:15forder scam is concerned and how Lalu was convicted in several cases
29:20and how BJP always uses the fodder scam and the corruption related to Lalu family
29:26as a poll plank, as an important poll plank one election after another
29:32So today also when we saw Prime Minister Narendra Modi really hitting out at RJD and Congress
29:39over this Antigraf Bill which is in the pipeline
29:43in fact which was introduced in the parliament recently
29:46Prime Minister really made out very clearly that
29:50why Congress and RJD leaders were opposing it
29:54because he said that these leaders were all embroiled in controversy and corruption
29:59many of these leaders including he did not take names
30:03but he insinuated that several leaders from the Congress and RJD
30:07are all, corruption cases are going on
30:10they are all out on bail where he said
30:13rail ka khel also where he hit out at Lalu Prasad Yadav
30:17and now see in the National Harald case Rahul is out on bail
30:21in the rail several scam cases
30:25Lalu Prasad is also out on bail, Rabri Devi is out on bail, Tejasvi is out on bail
30:29so the corruption really appears to be a big issue in Bihar
30:33and that is why today we saw that Prime Minister Modi raised this issue
30:37and hit out at Rahul Gandhi as well as Tejasvi Adav
30:41and both Congress and RRD on the issue of corruption
30:44very fascinating, BJP is going after corruption
30:47and Congress on the other hand going after vote chodi
30:50so let's see which narrative actually cuts it across with the voters there
30:54but still very early days
30:55thank you for joining us and bringing us all those details
30:59welcome back here with Fight Live
31:02I'm Sonal Medhotra Kapoor
31:03on to the big health story this hour
31:05a robot having a baby
31:08sounds like science fiction right
31:10but in China it's on the verge of becoming a science fact
31:14by 2026 researchers may unveil the world's first pregnant robo
31:20a humanoid machine designed to carry a fetus from implantation till birth
31:26this is said to be one of the most radical shift in reproduction since IVF
31:31and this is also said to be the answer to surrogacy
31:34which is now illegal in several countries including ours
31:38but is this the future of fertility
31:40or a line that humanity should not cross
31:44my colleague Sneha Murdani explains
31:47imagine a couple dealing with infertility
31:52choose to seek help
31:53and are told surrogacy is an option
31:56the mother would be a robot
31:59you heard that right
32:01this is not a plot from a sci-fi movie
32:04or something I'm just cooking up
32:06it actually could be a reality in days and weeks to come
32:11Chinese scientists are developing the world's first pregnancy robot
32:16a humanoid that will carry a baby in an artificial womb
32:19and mimic a full-time pregnancy
32:22for those struggling to conceive
32:24hiring a humanoid to carry their baby
32:27will cost about 12 lakh rupees
32:29or a lakh one
32:31the machine equipped with a system that feeds the fetus nutrients
32:35through a host
32:36could one day mimic a full-term pregnancy
32:39before giving birth
32:42an AI robot surrogate wouldn't conceive in the true human sense
32:47instead
32:48it would house an artificial womb implanted inside its body
32:52where a fertilized embryo is placed
32:55the robot's advanced systems would then provide nutrients
32:58oxygen
32:59and monitor the developing fetus
33:02mimicking the functions of a natural pregnancy
33:05AI has been a friend, companion to many
33:08now it could be taking on the role of a mother
33:11the prototype will make its debut
33:13next year
33:15but while the science is fascinating
33:17it has opened a Pandora's box
33:19of legal and ethical debates
33:22yes it offers hope in infertility
33:24but what about the moral boundaries of creating life
33:28through machines
33:30all right
33:34a relief for those
33:35of wanting surrogacy
33:36or a scare
33:38for those wondering
33:39what lies ahead
33:40let's
33:41break that open
33:42with an expert joining us
33:43Dr. Naina Patel
33:44a surrogacy and infertility expert
33:46also the medical
33:48director of
33:49Akantra Hospital and Research Institute
33:50joins us live now
33:52Dr. Patel
33:53all right
33:55we'll just go across to her
33:56meanwhile
33:57we also spoke with Dr. Manisha Singh
34:00who's the additional director of gynecology
34:03at Fortis Hospital in Bengaluru
34:06let's listen in to how Gainax are really perceiving
34:09this big medical breakthrough
34:12pregnancy in a human being
34:16and in a robot is very different
34:18when a mother goes into labor
34:21she can have high blood pressure
34:23she can have hemorrhage
34:25in the antipartum period
34:27she can bleed
34:29after the delivery of the baby
34:30there can be different complications
34:33that happen during the labor
34:34which is what
34:36every obstetrician and gynecologist
34:38needs to learn
34:39in their formative years
34:40when it comes to the robot
34:43there will be proper precise mechanisms
34:45to get the baby out of the pot
34:47when the time is right
34:49so therefore
34:50will it aid
34:51training of the new generation doctors
34:53I'm not so sure
34:55but yes
34:57this is a very interesting novel concept
34:59and there is still miles to go
35:02before this is out in the public
35:06for clinical practice and clinical use
35:08but
35:09I look forward
35:11to the developments in this space
35:14eagerly
35:15and I'm sure that in time to come
35:18there will be
35:18a use and validity
35:20for the pregnancy robot
35:22all right
35:24so let's see what this one offers
35:27Dr. Patel is with us
35:28Dr. Patel
35:28these bio sacks
35:30where an embryo can grow
35:33has existed for a while right
35:35the robots carrying it in their womb
35:37perhaps is the new part here
35:39but I want to
35:40I'm very curious to understand
35:41your perspective
35:42on what this means
35:43for fertility
35:44and the future of that
35:46thank you for asking me
35:49as of now
35:50I would really say
35:51it's an interesting novel technology
35:53but
35:54is it crossing an ethical and moral line
35:58that is also what we should understand
36:00will the whole
36:01idea of having a baby
36:03change
36:05so now more and more patients
36:06are going for artificial insemination
36:08or IVF
36:09so no natural conception
36:10then no natural pregnancy
36:13and delivering the baby
36:14so that is a very
36:16logical
36:17social ethical issue
36:19which is surrounding it
36:20yes
36:20it could be a boon
36:21for couples who
36:23or females who could not
36:24carry a child
36:25or who has large issues
36:26with the pregnancies
36:27or the transgenders
36:29that there can be
36:30single male families
36:31where the value of the female
36:33will go to zero
36:34and there will be gay couples
36:36who will opt for this
36:37but most importantly
36:39the Garbasanskar
36:41what we believe
36:42and our culture believe
36:43how will that go on
36:45to the baby
36:45the feel
36:46the voice of the mother
36:48what the mother eats
36:49how it impacts
36:50what the mother thinks
36:51will this robot be able to think
36:53like a human being
36:54that is another question
36:56that we need to answer
36:57Dr. Patel
36:58Dr. Patel
36:59it's not a versus question
37:01right
37:01every time a medical breakthrough happens
37:04we as humans
37:05because of AI
37:06have become
37:07very competitive with it
37:09I am thinking of it
37:10from a perspective
37:11of perhaps a mother
37:12who is finding it difficult
37:13to conceive
37:14who has tried IVF
37:16it's painful on the pocket
37:18painful emotionally
37:19painful physically
37:21surrogacy
37:21not an option anymore
37:23legally
37:23in India
37:24for them
37:25is this a breakthrough
37:26and on your point
37:27of Garbasanskar
37:28this robo actually
37:31can hear
37:33you can talk
37:34to the baby
37:35the parents
37:36the parents to be
37:38can actually communicate
37:40send their voice
37:41to the womb
37:42through the robot
37:43so all these things
37:44have been made possible
37:45but you are right
37:46the need of it
37:48perhaps came from
37:49infertility
37:49which is on the rise
37:50in China
37:51yes
37:52so I really agree
37:53with you
37:54that yes
37:54it is a mood
37:55for many
37:56but what about
37:57its overuse
37:58and misuse
37:59like for convenience
38:00for the career
38:01and how can a woman
38:03would be
38:04you are literally
38:05taking away
38:06the woman
38:06from a female
38:07like a male
38:08can say
38:09I don't need you
38:09to carry my child
38:10anymore
38:11I have a robo
38:12to carry it
38:13do you think
38:13you want a society
38:15where this type
38:16of mentality exists
38:17no
38:17so yes
38:18it is a new
38:19but how will
38:20that robo deliver
38:21what is the
38:22long term
38:23impact on that baby
38:24will that baby
38:25be a total
38:26mechanical baby
38:27with no human
38:28feelings
38:29no touch
38:30how do we
38:30come to know that
38:31so till then
38:33it has to be
38:34very very
38:35guardedly taken
38:36and we cannot
38:37compare it
38:37with the animal
38:38world also
38:39because you know
38:39human are at
38:40a different level
38:41than the animals
38:42so long term
38:43implications
38:44all the mothers
38:45you may find
38:45it very interesting
38:46very glamorous
38:47very fantastic
38:48new way of
38:49having a baby
38:50but the new
38:51baby that you
38:52want
38:52the next generation
38:53what type of
38:54baby
38:54so that is
38:56one thing
38:56and secondly
38:57the countries
38:58where it is
38:58legal
38:59how can a
38:59machinery
39:00take over
39:01the legal
39:01aspect
39:02like here
39:03in India
39:03it is legal
39:04now for
39:04some certain
39:05number of
39:06couples
39:06but it's
39:06not legal
39:07in China
39:07you can't
39:08find a shortcut
39:09like if I
39:10want to
39:10kill somebody
39:11I don't
39:12do it
39:12myself
39:13but if I
39:13have a
39:14robot
39:14fed in
39:14who can
39:15go and
39:15kill that
39:15person
39:16is it
39:17legal
39:18to do
39:18that
39:18then
39:19everybody
39:19will have
39:20such type
39:20of
39:20robots
39:21available
39:21who can
39:21just by
39:22technique
39:23go ahead
39:23and kill
39:24somebody
39:24with AI
39:25so is
39:26this the
39:26way you
39:27want to
39:27take a
39:28loop
39:28around
39:28the legal
39:29aspect
39:29in a
39:30country
39:30I would
39:31say no
39:31I don't
39:32want to
39:32say it's
39:33a new
39:33way
39:34but it's
39:36just a
39:36possibility
39:37as of
39:37now
39:38let's be
39:38real about
39:38it
39:39it's a
39:39possibility
39:40the baby
39:41the first
39:42fetus
39:43how a
39:43male can
39:43also feed
39:44the baby
39:45when the
39:45female is
39:46at the
39:46job
39:46female
39:47can go
39:47and feed
39:48the baby
39:48but the
39:49complications
39:50like the
39:50gynecologist
39:51said Manisha
39:52Singh is
39:52also very
39:53important
39:53the complications
39:54that can
39:55happen to
39:55the baby
39:56is revealed
39:57through the
39:57mother
39:57like mother
39:58gets hypertension
39:59mother gets
40:00some symptoms
40:00where the
40:01blood flow
40:02reduces to
40:03the baby
40:03where the
40:04water supply
40:04to the
40:05amniotic
40:05fluid goes
40:06down
40:06how will
40:07a robot
40:08be able
40:08to detect
40:09all this
40:09nothing can
40:09mimic a
40:09human
40:10more
40:11nothing can
40:12mimic
40:12the natural
40:14way of
40:14having a
40:15baby
40:15nobody is
40:15saying that
40:16but like I
40:17said this
40:17is not a
40:17versus
40:18the reason
40:19we brought
40:19out this
40:19report is
40:20not to
40:20say this
40:21is the
40:21new way
40:21the reason
40:22we brought
40:22out this
40:23report is
40:23to make
40:24people aware
40:24of how
40:25far and
40:26beyond science
40:27is going
40:27for China
40:28to say they
40:29will actually
40:29make it
40:30possible by
40:302026
40:31now that's
40:32something
40:32that means
40:33somewhere
40:33some fetus
40:34has already
40:35been conceived
40:36and is ready
40:37to be put
40:38inside a robo
40:38as we speak
40:39for them to
40:40actually deliver
40:41it in
40:412026
40:42but ma'am
40:43let's come
40:44down to
40:44the cost
40:45now
40:45and like
40:46I said
40:47for couples
40:48who suffer
40:49who struggle
40:51with infertility
40:52you know this
40:54better than I
40:54do
40:55it's a real
40:55one
40:56it's not just
40:57the emotional
40:58toil
40:59it's not just
40:59the physical
41:00toil
41:00it's not just
41:01how expensive
41:02it is
41:02it's an
41:03overall approach
41:04surrogacy
41:05today as well
41:06costs anywhere
41:07even when it
41:08was legally
41:09done in India
41:11costs anywhere
41:11between 30
41:12to 40
41:13lakhs
41:13this one
41:14will cost
41:15just about
41:1612 lakhs
41:17if I am
41:19not mistaken
41:20the cost
41:20is around
41:2112 lakhs
41:22yes but
41:22then the
41:22overall cost
41:23of maintaining
41:24it for 9
41:25months and
41:25delivery
41:26cost apart
41:27I feel
41:28really it's a
41:28boon for a
41:29lady who
41:29doesn't have a
41:30uterus
41:30born without
41:31uterus
41:32not taking
41:32help of a
41:33surrogate
41:33who is
41:34independently
41:35taking care
41:35of her
41:36baby as
41:36the way
41:37she wants
41:37not dependent
41:38on a
41:39surrogate
41:39I think
41:39it's a
41:40wonderful
41:40idea
41:41it's a
41:41boon
41:42because any
41:42female will
41:43not be
41:43deprived
41:44now of
41:45taking care
41:46of her
41:46own child
41:47even outside
41:48the uterus
41:48before the
41:49baby is
41:50born
41:50so that's
41:51a wonderful
41:51concept
41:52I feel
41:52but that
41:53cost will
41:54all be in
41:55addition
41:55this is
41:55just the
41:56price
41:56after that
41:57maintaining
41:58it for
41:58the 9
41:58months
41:59feeding it
41:59oxygenation
42:01etc
42:01will be all
42:02added cost
42:02and then the
42:03delivery
42:03so the
42:04final amount
42:06what it
42:06will cost
42:07till delivery
42:07which is
42:08say 30
42:08lakhs
42:09right now
42:09in India
42:09or 100
42:10thousand dollars
42:11200 thousand
42:12dollars in
42:12USA
42:13we don't
42:14know what
42:15it would
42:15come to
42:15be at
42:16the end
42:16of the
42:17day
42:17when the
42:18final
42:18delivery
42:18happens
42:19from this
42:20particular
42:20technology
42:21but yes
42:23as you
42:23said
42:23it will
42:24give a
42:24lot of
42:25independence
42:25to the
42:26females
42:26who have
42:27problems
42:28with the
42:28uterus
42:29who cannot
42:29carry a
42:30baby or
42:30born without
42:31uterus
42:31they will
42:32feel a
42:33lot more
42:34confident
42:34and
42:35independent
42:35there is a
42:36possibility
42:36now
42:37there is a
42:38possibility
42:39Dr. Patel
42:39you know
42:40this story
42:41got me
42:41thinking
42:41that if a
42:42robo can
42:43deliver a
42:43baby in
42:4412 lakhs
42:45why is the
42:46cost of
42:47this entire
42:47infertility
42:48sector in
42:49India so
42:49expensive
42:50any female
42:51who has
42:53frozen their
42:54eggs or
42:55that embryo
42:56or undergoing
42:57IVF will
42:58tell you how
42:58painful and
42:59how expensive
43:00it is
43:01especially
43:01because there
43:02is no
43:02insurance
43:03cover
43:03can you
43:04can you
43:05take us
43:06through what
43:08is required
43:09here then
43:09before that
43:12creating the
43:13embryo will
43:13need the
43:14IVF part
43:15and that
43:15IVF part is
43:16also equally
43:17costly or
43:18slightly higher
43:18in China
43:19so if in
43:20India you
43:20consider a
43:21cost of
43:22IVF is
43:22250,000
43:232.5
43:24lakhs it's
43:24little higher
43:25in China
43:25so before
43:27they put
43:27an embryo
43:28inside what
43:29happens is
43:29they have
43:30created this
43:31womb that
43:32will be put
43:32into a
43:33humanoid
43:33robo
43:34right so
43:36like a
43:36biosat
43:37it will be
43:37the embryo
43:38so for that
43:39we need to
43:39do IVF
43:40we need to
43:41stimulate the
43:41female take
43:42her eggs out
43:43in the lab
43:44fertilize with
43:45the husband's
43:45sperm and
43:46once that
43:47embryo forms
43:47so that cost
43:48is excluded
43:49in this
43:49whereas in
43:50our surrogacy
43:51that is always
43:51included so
43:52that will
43:53happen then
43:54it goes inside
43:54the uterus
43:55and then the
43:56process starts
43:57if it survives
43:58if it does
43:59not survive
44:00in the robo
44:00or is it
44:01rejected
44:01that studies
44:02have not
44:03come out
44:03that can
44:04also get
44:05rejected in
44:05a robo
44:06and again
44:06the same
44:07procedure will
44:07happen
44:08so it is
44:09not an
44:10alternative to
44:11IVF treatment
44:12and the cost
44:12it is an
44:13alternative to
44:14surrogacy where
44:15IVF procedure
44:16takes place
44:17freezing of
44:18embryos take
44:19place but
44:20the surrogate
44:21is not a
44:21carrier it is
44:22a human
44:22robo which
44:23is a carrier
44:24and gets the
44:25delivery
44:25so the rewards
44:26remain the same
44:27is what you are
44:27saying I agree
44:28with that but
44:29Dr. Patel my
44:29question was
44:30slightly different
44:30I am trying
44:31to understand
44:32why is the
44:34whole process
44:35of fertility
44:36so expensive
44:37in India
44:37and what can
44:38be done to
44:39actually bring
44:40it under a
44:40medical cover
44:41to ensure
44:42that people
44:43have an easier
44:44ride in these
44:45very stressed
44:46out lives that
44:47all of us live
44:48in urban
44:48jungles how
44:49can you ensure
44:50that this
44:52becomes not
44:53a thing that
44:55only the very
44:56affluent can
44:57afford
44:57yes yes so
44:59now it is
45:00going down
45:00the cost
45:01the first
45:01thing is
45:02India is
45:02one of the
45:03cheapest in
45:03the world
45:04as far as
45:05IVF and
45:05infertility
45:06treatment is
45:06concerned
45:07even the
45:08countries like
45:09Kenya and
45:09Tanzania
45:10the IVF is
45:11costlier than
45:12what it is in
45:13India so I
45:15would say India
45:15has one of the
45:16cheapest IVF
45:17treatment but
45:18the unfortunate
45:19part is that
45:20not all IVF
45:22cases are
45:22successful there
45:23is a certain
45:24success rate
45:25say 30% 40%
45:2760% depending
45:28on the patient
45:28profile and
45:30unfortunately the
45:31Indian ethnicity
45:32the eggs of the
45:33Indian women get
45:35aged and
45:36infertile earlier
45:37than the western
45:38counterparts or the
45:39African counterparts
45:41so we in India
45:42biologically age
45:43six years earlier
45:45than our western
45:46counterpart now
45:47when we are
45:47starting our
45:48career we are
45:49looking at it
45:49we feel 35 is
45:50the normal age to
45:51conceive but
45:52unfortunately the
45:53Indian females
45:54start losing out
45:55on the quality
45:56and quantity of
45:57their eggs by
45:58the age of 32
45:59so that is
46:00making even the
46:01results get more
46:02difficult in India
46:03but the cost part
46:05is mainly due to
46:06the disposables
46:07media the
46:08procedure the
46:09technology the
46:10investment in the
46:11labs and then
46:12there are repeated
46:13failures that adds
46:14to the cost but
46:16I would definitely
46:17vouch that India
46:18is one of the
46:19cheapest countries
46:20as far as IVF
46:21treatment is
46:22concerned
46:23well anybody
46:24who has taken
46:25IVF will tell
46:25you otherwise
46:26but yes that is
46:27a good perspective
46:28compared to the
46:29world we do have
46:30it cheaper can we
46:30make it more
46:31affordable can we
46:32add it under the
46:33insurance cover all
46:34those questions
46:35that all those
46:36questions still remain
46:37insurance is not
46:38available we should
46:39get insurance and
46:40we should fight for
46:41that why infertility
46:42is not there in the
46:43insurance
46:43topics all right
46:45dr patel thank you
46:46so much for joining
46:46us with all those
46:48insights over there
46:48thank you so much
46:50for having me
46:51all right let's cut
47:04across to news coming
47:05in of federal agents
47:06are searching the
47:07residents of former
47:08trump national security
47:09advisor john bolton
47:11this morning sources
47:12familiar with the
47:13matter say that the
47:15search was carried
47:16out by fbi and is
47:18related to allegations
47:19that bolton is in
47:20possession of classified
47:21records member
47:22bolton had been
47:24making rounds on
47:25india television news
47:26channels including
47:27here on india today
47:28criticizing donald trump
47:29for his tariff
47:30policies against india
47:33and now there's a
47:34raid that's been
47:35carried out over there
47:37and federal agents
47:38are searching the
47:40residents of john
47:43bolton pranay joins
47:44us for more on the
47:45phone line pranay
47:46was this on the
47:48expected line so what
47:49are we to take
47:50from here
47:50we can't say that
47:53this is on the
47:53expected lines but
47:54definitely the way
47:55john bolton was
47:57reacting and he was
47:58commenting on
47:59president donald trump
47:59his policies his
48:00administration and
48:02keeping in view the
48:03troubled relationship
48:04of john bolton and
48:05donald trump
48:06especially after his
48:07previous term because
48:08he's the same guy who
48:09served as national
48:10security advisor for
48:11president donald trump
48:12during his previous
48:13term and now they
48:15share a very troubled
48:16and an acrimonious
48:16relationship and
48:17the raid which are
48:20being conducted by
48:21the federal agents
48:22that the fbi
48:24director cash
48:25pitil has posted on
48:26a social media post
48:27without naming you
48:28know john bolton but
48:29he did say that no one
48:30is above law so
48:32definitely you know
48:32this is a big thing
48:34our national security
48:35advisor of the united
48:36states is being you
48:37know his house his
48:38premises are being
48:39raided and being
48:40searched or in you
48:42know allegedly in
48:42possession of some
48:43secret documents we
48:44know that you know in
48:46mar-a-lago the federal
48:47agents searched the
48:48premises of president
48:50donald trump when he
48:51shipped he when he
48:53shifted to mar-a-lago
48:54after you know
48:55demitting the the oval
48:56office sure so so
48:58clearly this is a this is
48:59a very significant and a
49:00big thing and we have to
49:01see that how the universe
49:02are you know and also
49:03try to react to this
49:04all right we'll leave
49:06it there for the moment
49:06thanks so much for
49:07joining us all right
49:12let's move on to some
49:13more news the og angry
49:15young man not so angry
49:17and not so young anymore
49:19we are talking about the
49:21shehensha of bollywood
49:22who may have returned to
49:23season 17 of korn
49:25bane gao karodpati but
49:26behind the glamour lies a
49:28deeply human story of
49:30aging adjustment and
49:32resilience amita bachchan
49:34has openly spoken about
49:35the challenges of growing
49:37older and he's clearly
49:38no longer like i said
49:40that angry young man
49:41anymore he's spoken for
49:43the first time on how
49:44even day-to-day activities
49:46are getting slightly
49:48difficult for him at 82 amita
49:59bachchan the towering legend
50:01of indian cinema still stands
50:04stall with his charm iconic
50:14baritone and a heart that
50:16beats for millions he's back
50:18once again on your screens with
50:20season 17 of korn bane ga
50:22karodpati and just like that big
50:30b proves he's far from done the
50:33show goes on but behind the
50:36spotlight bachchan recently opened
50:38up speaking straight from the heart
50:40in a deeply personal blog post he
50:45reflected on aging the slow quiet
50:48real changes that even real life
50:51superheroes must face simple tasks
50:55like putting on trousers now need
50:57extra care doctors have advised him to
51:01sit while dressing to avoid falls support
51:05bars have been installed across his
51:07home jalsa to help him move safely
51:12yet every sunday he climbs those steps
51:14to greet his fans a practice he's
51:17followed for decades and as he puts it
51:22the love of my fans steadies my nerves
51:27mr bachchan also shared details of his
51:29daily routine his mornings begin with
51:32pranayama and light yoga and no matter
51:35how hectic the day he never skips his
51:37workout i'm just getting educated
51:40his plate is as disciplined as his
51:43life tulsi leaves protein shakes porridge
51:49amla juice and no sugar no meat no rice a
51:56diet fine-tuned for strength and
51:59longevity
52:03amita bachchan has embraced change with
52:05grace the man inspires not just as an
52:09actor but as a symbol of resilience and
52:12quiet strength
52:14because while the body may age the legend lives on
52:30lives on
52:39once a shahinshah always a shahinshah
52:43hero report india today
52:47all right that's age the big equalizer between
52:55superstars and us sort of lesser models
52:58there that's it from us at five live but
53:01stay tuned
53:02so
53:07stay tuned
53:08that's
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