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00:00Hello and welcome, you are watching India Today, I am Preeti Chaudhary, our political
00:22stock exchange. India has decided to play Pakistan in the Asia Cup. The question that
00:30we took to our voters this time in the political stock exchange was, should India actually play
00:35with Pakistan, especially after what all has gone down? The Pahlgam terror attacks, Operation
00:40Sindur, there is a new normal, but does that entail if terror will not flow with water,
00:46then how in the world is terror going hand in hand with cricket? Those questions posed
00:52to our respondents, let's find out what they have to say, but before that, allow me to
00:56take you through the headlines.
01:03Tamil versus Telugu clash for Vice President, Opposition Vice President pick Judge Sudarshan
01:09Reddy versus NDA pick CP Radha Krishnan. TDP and YSRCP reconfirmed their support for the
01:16NDA candidate. After expert deletes post on Maharashtra voter, citing data error, BJP accuses
01:28Rahul Gandhi of creating chaos.
01:37Rain battered Mumbai battles a mega deluge. Chief Minister Fadnavis reveals the maximum city
01:42received as much as 300 mm of rains in 24 hours.
01:52Two Asian giants in dialogue. Chinese Foreign Minister Wongi meets Prime Minister Modi at 7.
01:58Lok Kalyan Magh meets Prime Minister day after. Talks with External Affairs Minister
02:02Jai Shankar and Ajit Dovan.
02:09BCCI announces the squad for the upcoming P20 Asia Cup. Shubhman Gill named vice
02:14captain. While Jaiswal, Washington, Sundar miss out India to take on Pakistan on the 14th of September.
02:32All right viewers, allow me to quickly cut across to the news break that is just coming in. The Chinese
02:38Foreign Minister Wongi has met Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi in New Delhi on Tuesday as both
02:44nations attempt to move past the strain in ties that followed violent clashes along the border in 2020.
02:51The visit is being seen as a part of efforts to put the relationship back on track.
02:55On Monday, External Affairs Minister Jai Shankar had set the tone for the engagement, noting that having
03:01seen a difficult period in our relationship, our two nations now seek to move ahead. We must do read
03:07all of this in context with what we are witnessing in terms of the tariffs imposed on India, where
03:14United States of America is concerned. Also, an attempt to move past in what had openly at one time
03:22in the United States of India is concerned. So, with that backdrop, with that narrative, these visuals,
03:38these optics coming into play, but isn't diplomacy all about this? I am connecting right now with my
03:45colleague, Geeta Mohana, external affairs editor, who is going to add more. Geeta, over to you.
03:49Preeti, a very important visit by Wongi, one of the senior most officials in the government of China,
03:57and he has met with Dr. Jai Shankar, he met with his counterpart, special representatives on boundary
04:04question, and now he is calling on Prime Minister Narendra Modi. So, significant, but also what is
04:09important to note over here is that every time there are SR-level talks and separate rounds that are held,
04:15one is waiting to look at what is the forward movement on the boundary question. It's a large
04:20ambit, but a specific one on disengagement and de-escalation at the LAC in the Ladakh sector,
04:29we have not seen a forward movement. It's the repeat of the same statements that have been made
04:34in the past various rounds of talks, diplomatic as also military-level talks between India and China.
04:39So, no forward movement on whether, if, we'll be seeing de-escalation soon, but this is a preparatory visit
04:45also, ahead of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit for the SCO summit in Tianjin. So, one will again
04:52have to wait and see how that really pans out, making, giving it a personal touch and calling on the
04:56Prime Minister, inviting him to Tianjin for the Shanghai Cooperation Organization at a time when tariffs
05:03are hitting hard to both the countries when it comes to America, whether it's China or for that matter, India.
05:09Kitha, all of this also needs to be viewed in context of what we witnessed in very recent memory,
05:18Operation Sindhoor, where we had openly stated that this wasn't an operation that India was fighting
05:24against Pakistan, but also a proxy war where China was concerned, number one. Number two, read this also
05:30in context of the tariff war going on between India and the United States of America.
05:35Well, absolutely, but also in context of where he is headed, next Preeti, the entire Operation Sindhoor,
05:43where China stood behind Pakistan, is his next stop. He is going to go to Pakistan, unlike many countries,
05:50many leaders who have, and a very painstaking effort made by India over the years to de-hyphenate India and Pakistan.
05:56We've seen China, and we're looking at a very senior official from China, hyphenating India and Pakistan in a way
06:04with the two visits that are taking place, one after the other, in this very same trip.
06:09So after coming to India, he is now going to go to Pakistan. Again, raises many questions as to whether if there's going to be any
06:18forward movement, can there really be a thaw in relations between India and China. The necessity is that India and China engage. The necessity is India and China need to look at trade, given the kind of atmosphere that has been created because of the United States of America.
06:34But that's necessity. Does it come from a place where there can be an ironclad friendship between India and China? Absolutely not, because that friendship and that space, that place has already been taken by Pakistan, which is where Wongi would be headed next.
06:52Alright, so is there a reset where India and China relationship is concerned? Well, one would need to really wait and watch because, you know, many things have happened in the recent past.
07:03And what you see right now, of course, is a diplomatic need, but need to be led in a larger context. Appreciate you joining us, Geeta. Thank you there.
07:14Alright viewers, talking about India and Pakistan. The big question is, should India play Pakistan where the Asia Cup is concerned? Well, that's already happening.
07:2414 September is the match with Pakistan in Asia Cup. Lots of commentary, lots of opinion.
07:31Many suggest that national pride should be overspotting ties, especially when we've drawn a new normal where Pakistan is concerned.
07:38If water cannot flow with terror, then why is cricketing ties where terror is concerned?
07:45So, what we did on the political stock exchange, sea voter took all these questions to our respondents.
07:50What do they think? Should. Though it's happening, it's on the cards.
07:54But what do our voters feel? Should India play with Pakistan, especially after the Pehelgaam terror attack and Operation Sindhur?
08:05One decision, massive implications.
08:10India will play Pakistan in the Asia Cup 2025 on September 14th.
08:16After the Pehelgaam terror attack, after the Pehelgaam terror attack, after Operation Sindhur, after the valor and the might of our armed forces,
08:38After India defining a new normal with Pakistan,
08:48Should India play cricket with Pakistan?
08:55Should India's bat answer Pakistan's bullets?
09:00Or should India pick national pride over sporting spirit?
09:08If terror and water cannot flow together, can cricket and terror go hand in hand?
09:16India's emotion now tracked by India today's political stock exchange.
09:23Unmatched, unmissable data analytics.
09:25What India thinks on playing with Pakistan.
09:35So, that is the moot question.
09:37Should India play with Pakistan?
09:38Let me at least put one thing to rest.
09:40India is already playing with Pakistan because the green signal has been given, where the Asia Cup is concerned.
09:4514th September is the big match where India takes on Pakistan.
09:49There is always a lot of opinion viewers where cricket is concerned.
09:52And there is always also a lot of opinion where ties between India and Pakistan are concerned.
09:57We have seen emotional scenes.
09:59We have seen scenes where we've been exceedingly proud of our armed forces and the way they performed in Operation Sindhur.
10:09We've stood by a government when the government said that this is the new normal.
10:13But is this the new normal?
10:14Playing with Pakistan while we continue to project a new normal?
10:21What do the voters really think?
10:23Because once again, the decision has been made.
10:25India is playing with Pakistan.
10:27But should India play with Pakistan?
10:29This is the question and a number of questions with it which we took to our voters.
10:33Because let me quickly, before we go into our panelists this evening, dive into the first question that was asked to our respondents.
10:40We've broken them up on the basis of those who vote for the NDA, those who vote for the opposition and the others.
10:47So question one that was asked, should India play cricket with Pakistan?
10:51Those who vote for the NDA say, yes, definitely, only 24% feel India should play with Pakistan, who vote for the NDA.
11:03Opposition voters, 36.8, others 35.5.
11:07In totality, only 31% of people, which is near just about 3 in 10 people that were interviewed, feel that India should play with Pakistan.
11:17The other figures, yes, probably 13.7%.
11:23No, not at all.
11:2451% believes that India should not play with Pakistan at all.
11:30We're going to break it down as well on a number of other questions.
11:33But I want to quickly introduce our panelists to you.
11:36Because like I said, as much as it is an emotive issue, it is also an issue that concerns sports.
11:43Nikhil Nas, consulting editor, sports India today in the studio with me.
11:47Sushant Sareen, senior fellow, ORF strategic affairs expert, Neeru Bhatia, senior sports journalist and columnist.
11:53I'd like to go to Nikhil, my colleague who's been tracking developments.
11:56Nikhil, the decision, I guess, has already been made by the government of India.
12:00The green light has been given and India is going to play Pakistan come the 14th of September.
12:05Yes, Spiti, in fact, today is the day where we've kind of got an official confirmation that India is playing.
12:11Of course, I knew that the BCCI was involved in a meeting with the Asian Cricket Council a couple of weeks back.
12:17And that was sort of an agreement there with a reach that they will be participating in the Asia Cup.
12:22Remember, India are also the host and they are ready to take this tournament outside of India to accommodate that Pakistan place.
12:28Today, because you have the team selection and you have the captain of the T20 team also come and address the press conference.
12:35So now it's pretty much official.
12:37And I can't believe that the BCCI could have taken this decision or, in fact, even attended that meeting without a green signal from the government.
12:44So, yes, for all practical purposes, the India versus Pakistan game is on and not without the permission of the government.
12:51So that is something that we've established today.
12:54What is really interesting, Preeti, is when I'm looking at your numbers, because, you know, we had a recent scenario where there was a Legends League game between India and Pakistan featuring mostly retired cricketers.
13:04That game was also planned for months in advance.
13:07But a couple of days before that game had to start, there was so much chatter on social media, so much of backlash on social media that the players decided to pull out.
13:15Now, when I look at your numbers, and probably this gives me an indication, I've broken it down roughly into two.
13:21Yes or no.
13:22You know, mildly yes and aggressively no.
13:26I've just broken it down into yes and no.
13:28And it's a very close call where almost 45% of your respondents are okay with an India-Pakistan game.
13:3455% say no.
13:36And that is quite an eye-opener for me, because whatever I've seen on social media, majority of the people are saying no way of playing figures.
13:41Also, wait for the breakup of that figure that you see on your television screen.
13:45But yes, Nikhil is right.
13:47Because if you actually, you know, add up, yes, probably, and yes, definitely, it pretty much inches towards the 50% mark.
13:55And 51% say definitely not.
13:59Let's quickly cut across to Sushant Sareen, as well as Neeru Bhatia.
14:02Sorry, Preeti, just to add on, probably, probably, because I was very surprised that the government, which had told us that we have nothing to do with Pakistan, don't touch anything that even mentions Pakistan, just a short while ago, have gone ahead and given this permission.
14:17Probably they had, I mean, now that I look at your numbers, probably they did their own survey, had an idea that it's so close.
14:23Like I said, wait for the entire survey, Nikhil, because there are other questions as well.
14:27But, Sushant Sareen, is this the new normal?
14:29Water will not flow with terror, but cricketing, cricket definitely can.
14:34Why, dearly, Preeti, you know, the shamelessness of the BCCIA is matched only by the silence of the government, which is loquacious in everything else.
14:43But when it comes to playing cricket with Pakistan, you won't get a single peep out of it.
14:48But, Mr. Sareen, at the cost of coming in and interrupting you, I hardly ever do that.
14:52But why I'm doing it is, Sushant Sareen, you had Nikhil just say, the BCCIA wouldn't have dared to give a nod if there was no government nod.
15:01Yeah, so I, so the reason is, I think the, or the government could not dare to go against BCCIA.
15:08You can put it whichever way you want to put it, which means that BCCIA and its leadership is far more powerful than the sentiment of people in this country or the government of India.
15:19BCCIA rules this country by default, because they can, they can ride roughshod over anything that they want to.
15:28And nobody in the government or in the ruling party has the guts to go against them.
15:32But just on this particular number, which you are showing, you know, I don't, I think it would be wrong to take the yes, definitely and the yes, probably together.
15:42The yes, probably would have a lot of caveats.
15:46You know, there would be a lot of people who would say that, listen, you know, because it's a multilateral cricket tournament.
15:52So, you know, like, you know, why can't we play that?
15:55We, we can't be out of every multilateral cricket tournament.
15:59So, it's fine if, you know, you're playing a multilateral tournament, etc, etc.
16:03So, there are a lot of caveats out there.
16:05So, I don't think the correct way would be to club together.
16:09Yes, probably.
16:10And yes, definitely.
16:12And to my mind, I think the more important number is the no, not at all.
16:17Because at least out there, there's no ambiguity.
16:19So, that's where you stand on.
16:20No, not at all.
16:20Neeru Bhatia, your quick comments.
16:23Yeah, well, I want to first start with the fact that it's the, it's, it's a fact that for any tour, even if the BCCI has to travel abroad, it needs a per functionary, not from the government to travel and get the clearance for the tour ahead.
16:38Even though the government doesn't interfere in the workings of the BCCI.
16:42Second thing, it's very interesting to, people have not been talking about it.
16:47There was, there's an Asia Cup which is going to happen.
16:49There's a hockey tournament which will happen later this year, this month, next month, where Pakistan refused to travel due to security reasons, even though, even though the Indian government had offered them visas, etc.
17:02And all the facilities, like they were offering to other participating nations.
17:06It's a multi-national tournament.
17:07But in this case, in cricket's case, the BCCI not only got the go-ahead and they are going ahead and playing the tournament.
17:15So, so, you know, it's different yardsticks for different sports, I think.
17:21Having said that, the call was BCCI's.
17:24BCCI's and yes, the BCCI's powerful enough to have requested the tournament to go on with Pakistan and India playing and they got, went ahead with it.
17:33Alright, okay, you know, what I'm going to do is, I'm, you know, quickly going to take all the other, I'll come back to you, Sushant.
17:38Just allow me to give in all our other figures and then we're going to come back to all three experts.
17:41For the other question viewers, that was posed to the respondents.
17:45Once again, we've broken them into, because cricket with Pakistan is also emotive, politically speaking.
17:52We've broken them up into voters from the NDA opposition and the fence-sitters.
17:58So, this is what it looks like on the question of hypocritical of BCCI to not play bilateral cricket with Pakistan, but play ICC tournaments.
18:07NDA voters, 58% feel, yes, hypocritical.
18:1049.9% of opposition voters, total 52.1% voters feel that it was hypocrisy on the part of the BCCI to not play bilateral cricket with Pakistan, but play ICC tournaments.
18:25So, with those numbers on your television screen, let me go on to our third question that was posed.
18:31It's a quick snap poll that C-voter did and the other question was, should India not play against Pakistan in ICC tournaments?
18:39Yes, nearly 45.8%. You'll see the microdata right there between opposition and NDA voters.
18:46So, nearly 45.8% feel that India should not play with Pakistan in ICC tournaments.
18:53No is 21.7%. That means India should play.
18:58India should avoid Pakistan no matter what, 21.2%.
19:01So, if you add it up, it's nearly about 65%.
19:05I think it's not a good idea to play with Pakistan.
19:09Does resumption of cricket insult sacrifice of armed forces?
19:14All right, this is a touchy, touchy topic because all of us out there keep the armed forces of our country very, very close to our heart and nothing compares to it.
19:24So, on the question, does resumption of cricket insult the sacrifice of our braves and armed forces coming after Operation Sindhu?
19:32Yes, definitely.
19:3462.1%, a whopping 62.1% say resumption of ties with cricket would mean insulting our armed forces.
19:44No, not at all. It's just 18.2%.
19:47Yes, probably 12.9%.
19:49So, nearly 80% people feel that if we play cricket with Pakistan, we are insulting our armed forces that fought Operation Sindhu.
19:58Lastly, now this was an interesting question because the question was asked, should the Supreme Court intervene immediately?
20:04Because the government and the BCCI has decided to play cricket with Pakistan.
20:11Yes, 60.5% want the Supreme Court to intervene and put a stop to the match that is coming up on the 14th of September.
20:20No, just 22.1%, can't say 17.4%.
20:25So, Nikhil, the micro data clearly mirrors what you were seeing and, you know, anticipating on social media.
20:32Most people feel it's a no-go.
20:35Well, I mean, these numbers are revealing, Preeti.
20:38And I think this is exactly what we were looking at and what we were gauging.
20:42I think what is the most interesting point, because you actually put in the ICC tournament,
20:46and I'm going to make a distinction here.
20:48Asia Cup is not an ICC tournament.
20:50Now, Asia Cup previously has also been postponed multiple times.
20:54I think it's still a tournament that's fluid.
20:56With an ICC tournament, you also risk sanctions.
20:59You also risk being isolated.
21:00I think those risks don't run with the Asia Cup, which is why I think when you look at an ICC tournament,
21:05and it's, you know, really heartening to see that most Indians have voted,
21:09that even in ICC tournaments, in the current circumstances, you wouldn't want to engage with Pakistan.
21:14But I think their result should be even greater when you just look at Asia Cup.
21:18Because as I said, Asia Cup is just, you know, a group of Asian countries that get together a few years.
21:24Sometimes it's a two-year gap.
21:26Sometimes that gap increases for four years.
21:28It keeps getting postponed as well.
21:29I can't understand what the compulsion was of the government.
21:33And I'll put it back on the government, because as, you know, you heard a short while ago as well,
21:37when Neeru was pointing out, that even for the Champions Trophy,
21:41the Indian team did not travel to Pakistan.
21:43So, while the BCCI may be taking all the cricketing decisions,
21:46I don't agree that, you know, BCCI is more powerful than the government,
21:49because the government actually told the BCCI,
21:51the Indian team should not be traveling to Pakistan.
21:54And then they followed that.
21:54So now, on the Asia Cup front, even if India had to pull out of this Asia Cup,
21:59I don't think they risked any sort of sanctions.
22:01And I don't think that would isolate India in any account for that matter.
22:05So that is why it becomes even more surprising.
22:08And then to add to that, Preeti, as you mentioned,
22:10a short while ago, or just a month ago, we were told,
22:12don't touch anything that is related to Pakistan.
22:14Don't watch their content.
22:15Their YouTube channels were banned.
22:18Their handles on X were banned.
22:21You could not consume any Pakistani content.
22:24Dilji Dosanj was banned for casting a Pakistani actress in their film.
22:29So if all of that existed, if that is the atmosphere that existed,
22:33how on earth can you go ahead and play Pakistan?
22:34Is there hypocrisy there?
22:35And Sushant Sareen, I'll bring you in two very pertinent questions.
22:38Nearly 80% of our respondents actually feel, Sushant Sareen,
22:42that resuming cricketing ties in whatever form with Pakistan
22:45is insulting our army braves.
22:47Number one.
22:48And there is a 60% that actually feels that the Supreme Court
22:51needs to come in and say,
22:52no, India shouldn't play with Pakistan.
22:56No, so Preeti, frankly,
22:57I don't think the Supreme Court has any locus stand-eye on this case.
23:00You know, for everything,
23:02even if we want clean drains in our colony,
23:06you have to go to Supreme Court.
23:07What kind of a goddamn country are we running
23:10that for every damn thing we run to the Supreme Court?
23:12I don't think the Supreme Court has any locus stand-eye,
23:14so I will not take this question.
23:15On the other ones,
23:17I think there's a clear contradiction which comes out
23:19that there are 80% of the people who feel that,
23:22well, it is insulting for the armed forces
23:24and the people who sacrifice
23:26or make the Supreme sacrifice for the country.
23:29And then when you look at the other questions
23:31which you have put,
23:32it seems that the sentiment is a little more mixed, right?
23:37So the numbers in that sense are a little contradictory.
23:40And one of the reasons for that is
23:42that, you know, there is that grey area,
23:45something which Nikhil also mentions,
23:47that, you know, there could be certain sanctions put.
23:49Now, my own sense is that
23:51he's 100% correct on Asia Cup.
23:53We have cracked down on the Asia Cup in the past.
23:57We call all the shots on the Asia Cup.
23:59And I cannot for the life of me understand
24:01that if we were the hosts,
24:03then what was the reason
24:04to shift the tournament to UAE
24:06only to accommodate Pakistan?
24:08And that is bizarre in this climate
24:11at a time when the Pakistanis are threatening
24:13to throw nuclear bombs on India.
24:15You say, no, okay, fine.
24:16Because we want to play Asia Cup,
24:18we'll go to UAE.
24:19One more point.
24:19Preeti, please allow.
24:21Allowing you, sir, allowing you.
24:22Go ahead.
24:23He's very passionately about this.
24:26No, no, I am.
24:27Because, you know, I find it bizarre
24:29that at one level,
24:30you say, Op Sindhuur is still on.
24:31And you keep shouting from the rooftops.
24:33At another level, you say that,
24:35okay, to accommodate Pakistan
24:36so that we can play not one,
24:38but possibly three matches,
24:39we'll go to Dubai.
24:41If you can make sense,
24:42this is as bizarre as Marco Rubio saying
24:44that China buying Russian oil
24:47does not fuel war.
24:48India buying Russian oil fuels war.
24:50Okay.
24:51But on Nikhil's point,
24:53on the ICC and the sanctions
24:55which will be put,
24:56look, this is a question
24:58of principle versus politics.
25:00Okay.
25:01If the principle is that
25:02we are not going to play
25:04against a terrorist country
25:05like Pakistan,
25:06then you stick to the principle.
25:08Then you say,
25:09I am not going to play with them
25:10regardless of whether
25:12it is an ICC tournament
25:13or anything else.
25:14And if that means that
25:15my candidacy for hosting
25:18the Olympics,
25:19as some people are saying,
25:20I don't know what Olympics
25:21has to do with cricket,
25:22but in 2036,
25:24I don't know what the hell
25:25is going to happen
25:26in the next six months
25:27considering how the world is moving.
25:29And we are talking about 2036.
25:31This is the worst kind of things,
25:33you know,
25:33which people do out here
25:34to fool public.
25:36And which is why
25:37if the messaging was clear,
25:38I think the survey results
25:40would have been a lot more
25:41clearer than what did emerge.
25:45All right.
25:45Okay.
25:46So Sushant Sareen
25:46putting his passionate plea forward.
25:48And, you know,
25:49one thing that we understood
25:51on this account
25:52is that most of our viewers
25:54feel very, very passionately
25:55both about cricket
25:57and our relationship
25:58or the lack of it
25:59with Pakistan.
26:00So both of them
26:01coming together
26:02really, you know,
26:03it does have very,
26:05very different views
26:06and bipolar views
26:08that come in.
26:08Neera, go ahead.
26:09You wanted to make a point.
26:10Yeah, I just want to make
26:11a small point.
26:11I completely agree
26:12with what Mr. Sareen
26:13has said.
26:14But in this case,
26:15this India-Pakistan thing
26:17is not about relations
26:19with each other.
26:20It's more about the money.
26:21Because the maximum money
26:23that any cricket match
26:25will earn
26:25from a tournament
26:26like Asia Cup,
26:28which is a smaller tournament,
26:29will be from an India-Pakistan match.
26:32The TRPs,
26:33the IBOS that will garner
26:36will be the maximum.
26:37The advertisements
26:38and the advertisement rates
26:39will be the maximum.
26:41So I think it's not so much
26:42about relations here
26:43as much as it is
26:45about the money
26:45that it's going to garner.
26:46Secondly,
26:47I think the government,
26:48the onus is on the government
26:49to take a stand clearly.
26:50Either you allow
26:51or you don't allow.
26:52You know,
26:53and that has to be clear.
26:54It can't be pick and choose.
26:56Well, you're right there.
26:57You know,
26:57I'm going to end it there.
26:58But we leave it
26:58with that question.
26:59How much of a price
27:00is fair enough
27:01for the valor of our braves?
27:03How much of a price
27:03is fair enough
27:04of those who lost
27:05their lives in Pehel Ghan?
27:07How much is a price
27:08is fair enough
27:09to compromise
27:10in the name of
27:11what we call
27:11a new normal?
27:12We're going to leave it
27:13at that, Vivas.
27:13But because it is political,
27:15I want to quickly
27:16cut across to
27:17Asaduddin Ovesi
27:18who on the floor
27:19of the parliament
27:19had made an impassioned speech
27:21on why India
27:21shouldn't play with Pakistan.
27:23He joined me
27:24for a podcast
27:24a week ago
27:25and this is what
27:26he had to say.
27:26Thank you,
27:27all our guests
27:27for joining us.
27:28Thank you there.
27:29You've made you stand
27:30very clear
27:31on India playing Pakistan.
27:32You know,
27:32there is the Asia Cup
27:33coming in.
27:34What's your view on that?
27:35I said it in parliament
27:37during the Operational Sindhu
27:38debate that
27:38when the prime minister
27:39himself had said
27:40many times
27:41that water and blood
27:43cannot flow,
27:44talks and terrorism
27:45cannot go together
27:46and rightfully
27:49after Operation Sindhu
27:50this government
27:51have stopped
27:54issuing visas.
27:56They have stopped
27:57trade,
27:58directly indirect trade.
28:00We have,
28:01this government
28:02has suspended
28:03rightfully
28:03the Indus Water Treaty.
28:08You know,
28:08we have stopped
28:0980% of,
28:11according to the treaty,
28:1280% of water
28:12belongs to Pakistan.
28:13We have stopped,
28:14we have kept it
28:14in abeyance.
28:16When all such measures
28:18have been taken,
28:20how can you jump
28:21and play a cricket match?
28:22You see,
28:22when people say,
28:23oh,
28:23when you play other sports,
28:25cricket is,
28:26it is not a sport in India.
28:27Yes.
28:28You know,
28:28it's football,
28:31hockey,
28:31volleyball,
28:33kabaddi,
28:33these are,
28:34you know,
28:35I'm sorry to you
28:35that sport,
28:36but here it's like
28:37an obsession.
28:38Yeah,
28:38you're right.
28:39You know,
28:39everything comes
28:40to a standstill
28:41and
28:43like,
28:44for example,
28:44the last day
28:45of the cricket match,
28:47I was sitting
28:48in my home.
28:49I had a parliament
28:49to go,
28:50but I wanted,
28:51I went to parliament
28:53and I rushed back.
28:54So fortunately,
28:56the parliament
28:56was not working.
28:58I rushed back
28:59and I put my cell phone
29:01on silent
29:02and I was watching,
29:03okay,
29:03now what's going to happen?
29:06You see,
29:06so cricket is like that
29:08and then,
29:09and then there's so much
29:10of money in cricket,
29:11which is not there
29:12in other sports.
29:13So,
29:14I don't know,
29:15I'm surprised
29:16and shocked
29:17that we are playing
29:19a cricket match
29:20in Dubai
29:21with Pakistan.
29:24But anyways,
29:24I will not watch it.
29:26You won't watch it?
29:27I'll not watch it.
29:28Why wouldn't,
29:29because of
29:29Operation Sindhura
29:30and the way we stand?
29:31Sindhura,
29:31but because of,
29:32you know,
29:33that shocking incident
29:36of Pehalgaam,
29:37it is too horrific
29:38that someone can be shot
29:41in front of their
29:42small children,
29:43wives,
29:44mothers,
29:44what it is,
29:45you know,
29:45it's like,
29:46you're watching,
29:48you know,
29:49your wife is watching
29:50her husband being shot
29:51in his head.
29:54You know,
29:55that is very painful.
29:56You know,
29:57we,
29:57unfortunately,
29:58in our country,
29:59we forget the victims.
30:01That is what it is.
30:01When people die,
30:03either a natural disaster
30:05or a bomb blast,
30:06you tend to forget,
30:07but,
30:08you know,
30:08we,
30:09of course,
30:09everyone will have
30:10to carry on life,
30:11but.
30:18All right,
30:19viewers,
30:19latest news break
30:20right now coming in.
30:21It's been raining
30:22incessantly in Mumbai.
30:23A monorail has been stuck
30:25in Mumbai's eastern suburb
30:26due to technical snag
30:28and rainfall.
30:29Passengers are still
30:29stuck inside
30:30and are being rescued
30:31using a crane.
30:33The Mumbai monorail service
30:34between Chambur
30:35and Bhakti Park
30:36came to a halt
30:37at about 6.15 p.m.
30:39today due to
30:40incessant rain
30:41and now the passengers
30:43stuck inside
30:44the monorail
30:45are being taken out
30:46with the help
30:47of a crane.
30:48My colleague
30:48Devesh is on
30:50the phone line
30:51with us.
30:51Devesh,
30:51over to you.
30:53Well,
30:54this is a monorail
30:55race which was
30:56at the
30:57natural
30:59line
30:59monorail station
31:01and there
31:03as per the
31:04monorail officials
31:04it suffered
31:05a power surge
31:06and a power outage issue
31:08and due to which
31:09it got stuck
31:10over there
31:12and there were
31:13passengers inside
31:14who were travelling
31:15towards
31:15Wadala
31:16who were travelling
31:17towards Wadala
31:18when this incident
31:20happened.
31:21The monorail race
31:22was stuck
31:22and following which
31:23monorail officials
31:25launched the
31:26emergency rescue
31:27operation
31:27and what we hear
31:28from sources
31:29is that
31:29cranes were brought
31:31in so that
31:32the passengers
31:33could be rescued
31:33safely.
31:36The power outage
31:38that was supported
31:39the monorail
31:40happened at around
31:416.15pm
31:42and the rescue
31:44operations
31:45were started
31:46immediately after
31:47that when
31:48monorail officials
31:49received this.
31:50Are all passengers
31:51safe now?
31:51Officials say
31:55that all the
31:55passengers are
31:56safe.
31:57There has been
31:57no casualty.
31:59There has been
31:59no injury to
32:02anyone.
32:03This monorail
32:04rake at the
32:06Maishur colony
32:07station experienced
32:08a minor...
32:09This is the
32:09official statement
32:10which has come
32:11from monorail
32:12officials that
32:13one monorail train
32:14near Maishur colony
32:15station experienced
32:17a minor power
32:17supply issue.
32:19Our operations
32:19and maintenance
32:20teams are already
32:21on site and
32:22working to resolve
32:23it quickly.
32:24For now,
32:24services between
32:25Vanala and
32:26Chambur are running
32:27smoothly on a
32:28single line.
32:29We sincerely
32:30thank you for
32:30your patience
32:31and assure that
32:32safety remains
32:33our top priority.
32:35Normal services
32:37will be restored
32:39at the earliest.
32:40Stay all with me.
32:40Ritwik Balikar is
32:41joining us from
32:42the spot there.
32:43What we've been
32:43given to understand
32:44everybody who was
32:45stuck in the
32:45monorail is now
32:46safely rescued by
32:48the virtue of a
32:49crane.
32:49But an
32:50abomination
32:51viewers, a
32:52little bit of
32:52rainfall, incessant
32:53rainfall in Mumbai
32:55has led to a
32:56monorail being
32:57struck.
32:58My colleague on
32:59ground joining us
33:00live right now,
33:01over to you.
33:04Ritwik Balikar.
33:05Go ahead,
33:05Ritwik.
33:07Yes, absolutely.
33:08I'm not on the
33:09spot, but yes,
33:10the sources which
33:12are on the spot
33:13are telling us
33:14that there are
33:15many passengers
33:17who are still
33:19stuck inside the
33:20monorail.
33:21Monorail is used
33:22by the eastern
33:23suburb passengers
33:25who, you know,
33:27use it for to and
33:28throw for their
33:30work, which connects
33:32the eastern suburb
33:33of Mumbai to the
33:35south Mumbai in
33:36Vadala.
33:36So, while the
33:39incessant rain was
33:40continuing and a
33:42technical snag, a
33:43power supply issue
33:45caused monorail to
33:47get stuck between
33:48Chambur and Vadala.
33:50And since then, it's
33:51been an hour now
33:52two snorkel vehicles
33:54have been called
33:55upon by BMC
33:57officials.
33:58Police has also
33:59reached the spot
34:00and NMRD officials
34:01are also reaching
34:03for the rescue
34:04operation.
34:05The crane of the
34:06snorkel vehicle
34:06is used, you know,
34:08to get those
34:09stuck passengers
34:10out of that
34:11monorail car.
34:14And now, they
34:15have been brought
34:16down, but the
34:17rescue operation
34:18is still ongoing
34:19and many people
34:21are still stuck
34:22inside and they
34:24are waiting for
34:25their turn to get
34:26down from that
34:27monorail car.
34:29All right, Ritwik,
34:30just stay on with
34:30me.
34:30I want to just
34:31quickly, you know,
34:32get our viewers up
34:32to speed with the
34:33latest news that's
34:33coming in.
34:35Earlier on, the
34:37authorities seemed
34:38to suggest that
34:38everyone was
34:39rescued safely, but
34:40as Ritwik is
34:41pointing out, rescue
34:42operations are still
34:43on.
34:43Those visuals that
34:44you see on your
34:44television screen,
34:45clearly there is a
34:46power outage in
34:47the monorail there.
34:48There are no ACs
34:50working.
34:50You can see the
34:51passengers who are
34:52cramped inside.
34:53For all those
34:54viewers who have
34:55seen peak R traffic
34:57in Mumbai would
34:58understand that what
35:00is the situation
35:01right now inside
35:02this monorail.
35:02There are people
35:04who are packed to
35:05the gills in terms
35:06of the space there.
35:08You know, one can
35:08see the visuals that
35:11are coming in, that
35:12it's completely
35:14packed.
35:14There's a power
35:15routed, so clearly
35:16the air conditioning
35:16is not working
35:18inside the monorail.
35:19And there is no
35:21light, precariously
35:22perched the monorail.
35:25But rescue
35:26operations are on,
35:27is what we've been
35:28given to understand,
35:29though there are
35:30still a lot of
35:31people who continue
35:33to remain stuck
35:34inside the monorail.
35:36Ritwik, it's an
35:38abomination that
35:39something like this
35:40can happen,
35:41especially because
35:42rain is something
35:43that Mumbai is
35:44very used to.
35:45what really went
35:46down that led
35:47to an incident
35:48such as this.
35:53See, since the
35:55rail services have
35:56been affected and
35:57even the streets
35:58are flooded,
35:59many people
36:00resorted, the
36:01regular passengers,
36:03despite of using
36:05local train services
36:07and road transport,
36:09they got diverted
36:10to monorail services
36:12and we can see
36:13in the visuals
36:15how jam-packed
36:16these monorail
36:18cars are seen.
36:21And maybe
36:22that might be the
36:23reason that it is
36:24overloaded.
36:25Only two to three
36:27cars are used
36:28for these monorail
36:30services because
36:31there's not much
36:32football on
36:33any regular day.
36:35but today,
36:36because of this
36:37unprecedented football
36:38and unexpected
36:39crowd which has,
36:42you know,
36:43gotten into the
36:44car.
36:44Alright, so Ritwik,
36:44two things.
36:45We're going to
36:45continue to visit
36:46the story.
36:46What we know
36:47right now,
36:47there are people
36:48still stuck inside
36:49this coach of
36:50the monorail,
36:51correct?
36:52Exactly, yes.
36:54Okay, so we're
36:54going to continue
36:55tracking it.
36:56These are the
36:56visuals that are
36:57coming in and
36:58it is a
36:59traversity of what
37:00we're seeing on
37:00our television
37:01screen.
37:01Usually, the
37:02monorails aren't
37:03packed but because
37:04it's a shorter
37:04distance but because
37:06it was raining,
37:06lots of passengers
37:07did take the
37:09monorail.
37:09One of the
37:10reasons for the
37:10power outage seems
37:12to suggest overloading
37:13of passengers.
37:15And these are the
37:16sad visuals that
37:17are coming in from
37:18inside the monorail
37:19completely jam-packed
37:21with passengers.
37:23There are power
37:24routers.
37:24You can see people
37:25fanning themselves.
37:27Clearly, the air
37:28conditioning is not
37:29working.
37:30Rescue operations on
37:31by the virtue of a
37:33crane.
37:33Right now,
37:34authorities tell us
37:35everyone is safe
37:36and born.
37:37It is a game of
37:38one-upmanship where
37:39it comes down to
37:40strategies put
37:42together for
37:43pushing forth the
37:45names for their
37:46nominees where it
37:47comes down to
37:48vice president for
37:49both the ND and
37:50the BJP alliance.
37:51After BJP-led
37:52NDA, named
37:53Maharashtra
37:54governor and
37:54former Tamil Nadu
37:55BJP president,
37:56CP Radha
37:57Krishnan, as its
37:58vice-presidentian
37:59candidate, opposition
38:00parties have now
38:01announced former
38:02Supreme Court judge,
38:03Justice B.
38:04Sudarshan ready as
38:05its candidate for
38:05the upcoming vice
38:06presidential elections.
38:07I want to quickly
38:09take you through on
38:10why both you have
38:13at one end the
38:15NDA and the other
38:17end you have the
38:18opposition parties
38:20coming together with
38:21choices of the
38:22reasons and why they
38:23have picked them.
38:25But before we get into
38:26the basics, we're going
38:26to put out the
38:27graphics right there
38:28because we're running
38:28short of time.
38:29I want to quickly cut
38:30across to our guest
38:30this evening,
38:31Sumansi Raman,
38:32political analyst,
38:33Aarti Jairat,
38:34senior journalist
38:35and political
38:35commentator.
38:37Sumansi Raman,
38:38yesterday we were
38:39chatting about the
38:40NDA choice of
38:41candidate ticking
38:41many boxes.
38:42Number one, of
38:44course, an RSS
38:45candidate, OBC,
38:47checkmating or at
38:48least putting the
38:49DMK in a catch-22
38:51situation when all
38:52they wanted is
38:52representation.
38:53But it does seem
38:55that the opposition
38:57India Alliance
38:58thought of exactly
38:59the same and have
39:00done that with the
39:01TDP.
39:02However, TDP has
39:03come up right now.
39:04We just want to tell
39:04our viewers to
39:05continue to pledge
39:06support to the NDA
39:08candidate.
39:09Over to you,
39:09Mr. Raman.
39:10Yeah, I think
39:11yesterday we were
39:13discussing this and
39:14it was my gut feel
39:16that the DMK would
39:17not insist on the
39:19candidate being from
39:20Tamil Nadu and that
39:21was how it has
39:22turned out.
39:23Now, my concern on
39:24this is,
39:25they've picked
39:26someone who does
39:28not belong to the
39:29OBC community, who
39:30comes from the
39:31upper caste Reddy
39:31community and who
39:34comes from, you
39:35know, a non-political
39:36background.
39:37So, I don't
39:39honestly understand
39:40how this is going
39:41to create any kind
39:42of fissures or
39:43pressures on any
39:44of the NDA
39:44partners to vote
39:47in favor of, vote
39:49against the NDA
39:49candidate and in
39:50favor of Justice
39:51Vithashan Reddy.
39:52So, I think that
39:53it's, I think
39:54at the end of the
39:55day, a fight has
39:57to be put up.
39:57It has got to be a
39:58token fight.
39:59The India
40:00alliance knows
40:00they're losing it.
40:01So, for that,
40:03you know, they've
40:03identified a suitable
40:05candidate who can
40:06potentially, you know,
40:07go through the
40:08motions.
40:08I cannot see this, you
40:10know, barring something
40:11really unforeseen
40:13happening in the next
40:13few days, I
40:14honestly cannot see
40:15this as any more
40:16than a token fight
40:17put up by the
40:18India alliance.
40:18And it is surprising
40:20because Mr.
40:21Naidu was part of
40:22the decision-making
40:23process of the NDA.
40:24When CPR was
40:26picked, Mr.
40:26Naidu was in the
40:27loop.
40:28So, to expect him
40:29to vote, you know,
40:31just because a fellow
40:32Telugu has been
40:33nominated, that was
40:34never going to happen.
40:35It was far more
40:36unlikely to happen
40:38than even the DMK.
40:40So, now things will
40:41go according to the
40:42alliance formation
40:43line and Mr.
40:45CPR should come
40:46through quite
40:46comfortably.
40:47I don't expect any
40:48kind of significant
40:49cross-voting to be
40:51seen in this.
40:52But I think that by
40:54not putting up an
40:55OBC candidate or a
40:56Dalit candidate,
40:57perhaps from Bihar,
40:59I think the India
40:59alliance, maybe they
41:01may have missed a
41:01trick.
41:02Alright, so missed
41:03an opportunity there
41:04because it could have
41:05been a token fight.
41:05You could have
41:06picked somebody from
41:07Bihar, but they
41:07attempted to do
41:09exactly what they
41:10thought that the
41:10NDA did, to put the
41:12TDP in a spot like
41:13many would have
41:14thought that the
41:14NDA put the DMK in
41:16a spot.
41:17And Mr.
41:17Raman is right,
41:18viewers, because if
41:19you look at share
41:19numbers, and we'll
41:20try and put out those
41:20graphics there, the
41:21NDA have the
41:22strength.
41:24Tomorrow is going
41:24to be the nomination
41:25for the NDA
41:26candidate, Mr.
41:27Radha Krishnan, and
41:27then on the 21st of
41:28Mr. Reddy, the
41:29opposition candidate.
41:30The elections happen
41:31on the 9th of
41:32September.
41:33Will there be
41:33cross-voting?
41:34It doesn't quite
41:35seem so.
41:35The NDA, the
41:37opposition was
41:38hoping that it
41:39would put the
41:39TDP in a spot.
41:40That didn't quite
41:41happen.
41:41They made their
41:41allegiance very
41:42clear, number
41:43one.
41:43Number two, the
41:44YSRCP, even with
41:46their handful of
41:46MPs, have decided
41:48to stick with the
41:49NDA choice, as they
41:50had already pledged
41:51support to Rajanath
41:52Singh, the one who
41:53was mediating on the
41:54account of the NDA.
41:55The BRS, in all
41:56probability, will
41:58stick with the
41:59opposition choice.
42:00But, Arati Jairath,
42:01what do you make
42:02of it?
42:03I mean, I quite
42:04agree with the
42:05previous panelists.
42:08This is just a
42:09token fight.
42:10And at the end of
42:10the day, I think
42:11what we really get
42:12is a headcount for
42:13the records.
42:14How many MPs with
42:16the NDA?
42:16How many MPs with
42:18the opposition?
42:19And that's all
42:20really it amounts
42:21to.
42:21Although I think
42:22the opposition is
42:23trying to pitch it
42:23as an ideological
42:24fight, you know,
42:26given the fact
42:27that, you know,
42:29Radhakrishnan has
42:30an RSS background
42:31and is a staunch
42:32RSS loyalist.
42:34But, you know,
42:34the interesting
42:35thing about
42:36Radhakrishnan is
42:37that although he
42:37comes from the
42:38RSS and
42:39apparently in
42:41Tamil Nadu, he
42:42was jokingly
42:43referred to as
42:44the bhajpai of
42:45the BJP in
42:46Tamil Nadu
42:46because actually
42:48he is known
42:50to be a
42:51moderate, he's
42:52known for his
42:53sobriety, and
42:54you know, when
42:55the BJP was
42:56formed in
42:571980, he
42:58was appointed
42:59as an aide
42:59to Atal Bihari
43:00Vajpayee, who
43:01was then the
43:01president of
43:02the BJP.
43:03So maybe some
43:04of, you know,
43:05Vajpayee's
43:05consensual
43:06politics rubbed
43:07off on
43:08Radhakrishnan.
43:10And, you
43:11know, I mean,
43:11it's going to
43:13be a very
43:13interesting thing
43:14because he is
43:14so diametrically
43:15opposite to the
43:17previous incumbent.
43:18Maybe we can
43:19hope for some,
43:21you know, more
43:21stability and
43:22some more
43:22order.
43:23Mr. Raman, I
43:24know you want to
43:24come in, but I'm
43:25sorry, that's all
43:26the time that we
43:26have for in this
43:27segment.
43:28But thank you.
43:29I appreciate it.
43:29One sentence.
43:30One sentence, sir,
43:31quickly.
43:31Yeah.
43:32I mean, Mr. Radhakrishnan
43:33is not the typical,
43:35you know, the RSS man
43:36who would go from
43:36village to village
43:37on a bicycle.
43:38He's very wealthy.
43:39He declared assets
43:40of 67 crore in
43:412019.
43:42He is a businessman.
43:43He's an industrialist
43:45on his right.
43:45But thank you.
43:46I appreciate both of
43:46you for joining us.
43:47Viewers, let's
43:48quickly move on to
43:49something that made
43:50news on whether
43:51there should be
43:52enough woman
43:53representation in
43:54the core team of
43:55the RSS.
43:55What started as a
43:56routine book launch
43:57quickly transformed
43:58into one of the
43:59most compelling Q&A
44:00moments leading up
44:01to the RSS
44:02centenary.
44:03India, today's
44:04executive editor-in-chief,
44:06Kali Puri, boldly
44:07called for greater
44:08female representation
44:09and invoked an
44:11answer by Mr.
44:13Mohan Bhagwat.
44:13Listen in.
44:32What began as a
44:34ceremonial book launch
44:35to usher in the
44:36RSS's centenary year
44:38quickly turned
44:39into a moment
44:40of national
44:41significance.
44:46In a packed
44:48auditorium, a
44:49seemingly routine
44:50event took an
44:51unexpected turn
44:52as India, today's
44:54executive editor-in-chief,
44:55Kali Puri, made
44:57two suggestions in
44:58her speech to
44:59RSS Sarsangchalak
45:01Mohan Bhagwat,
45:02who promptly replied,
45:04rare and
45:05thought-provoking
45:06exchange.
45:07Srimati,
45:07Srimati, Kalipuri
45:08Ji, is the
45:08present.
45:09Amid her
45:13prayers for the
45:14sang's centenary
45:15roadmap, built on
45:17five guiding pillars,
45:18social harmony,
45:20family enlightenment,
45:21environmental
45:22consciousness,
45:23selfhood, and
45:24civic responsibility,
45:26Kalipuri shifted the
45:27conversation towards
45:29a bold new idea.
45:34She proposed a
45:36fresh lens for
45:37measuring progress,
45:39gross domestic
45:40behavior.
45:41Economic growth, she
45:42argued, must be
45:44matched by ethical
45:45growth.
45:47India today's GDP
45:48findings revealed a
45:49disturbing reality about
45:51the nation's social
45:53fabric.
45:54Since I have been
45:56given free reign,
45:57which I greatly
45:58appreciate and
45:59value, I would like
46:01to end with two
46:02suggestions for the
46:03RSS as they draw up
46:04their blueprint for
46:05the next hundred
46:06years.
46:07Firstly, in our
46:08first gross domestic
46:10behavior study,
46:11Indians' attitude to
46:13accepting corruption
46:14of a way of life is
46:16very disheartening.
46:17In one state,
46:19corruption is
46:20accepted as a
46:21necessity by 94%
46:23respondents.
46:25We must not allow
46:26this collective
46:27surrender to
46:28corruption.
46:29We must work hard
46:31together to root it
46:32out.
46:33Then came the
46:34moment that shifted
46:35the tone to push
46:37for more
46:37inclusivity.
46:39Kalipuri posed
46:40a pointed,
46:41forward-looking
46:41question.
46:43Vildar Assess's
46:44vision for the
46:45next century
46:46placed women at
46:48the heart of
46:48decision-making?
46:52Women could be
46:53included more in
46:54the leadership council
46:55of the main RSS
46:57organization.
46:59But I believe some
47:00representation is
47:01necessary in the
47:02core council if we
47:04want to bring about
47:05societal change.
47:06And they should be
47:07included not just
47:09because of their
47:10gender, but because
47:11of merit.
47:12And because women
47:13are the tenfold,
47:15the change agent of
47:16every family and
47:17society.
47:18Her challenge was
47:19clear.
47:20Progress isn't just
47:21about planning.
47:22It's about
47:23participation.
47:24Mohan Bhagwat did
47:26not shy away.
47:27He acknowledged the
47:28direct suggestion and
47:30pointed to the role of
47:31the Rashtra Sevika
47:32Samiti, emphasizing that
47:33women already contribute
47:35to key discussions and
47:37explained how.
47:38Looking ahead, he
47:39committed to widening
47:41their participation in
47:42implementation bodies
47:43as the RSS steps
47:46into a centennial
47:47chapter.
47:47of the
48:17Like in our everyday life, we have made a decision about the parties.
48:24So, we have prepared the decision.
48:27We have come first with the decision about the parties.
48:30Later, we have come from Vibhinda Senghat.
48:34Then, we have given the prepared decision about them.
48:37What they have done, we have not done before.
48:41That's how we have prepared it.
48:43The rest of the work outside of society,
48:48we have worked with the parties,
48:51and we live in the core group.
48:54The leader of the Sivabarthi,
48:56the leader of the Sivabarthi,
48:58he is the leader of the Sivabarthi.
49:00He is the leader of the Sivabarthi.
49:02This is the name of the Sivabarthi.
49:05Why am I telling you?
49:06All this happens.
49:08But this is naturally evolved.
49:14And this can be evolved.
49:17This is the cause of our work.
49:21A bold appeal met with the door left ajar.
49:25As the Sangh steps into its new chapter,
49:28the spotlight shifts to action.
49:30Not just planning, but participation.
49:33Not just vision, but a seat at the table.
49:36A three-day symposium is being organized on
49:40Centenary Year of RSS, led by RSS Chief Mohan Bhagwat.
49:44The symposium will be held from August 26th to 28th
49:49at Delhi's Vigyan Bhawan.
49:51Bureau Report, India Today.
49:53All right.
49:57Meanwhile, one of the staunchest supporters of Saffran,
50:00Umma Bharti, did speak about women representation
50:02in the RSS in my podcast on politics.
50:06Listen in, we leave you with that.
50:09You have a very long relationship with RSS.
50:14You are very close to RSS.
50:15You are very close to RSS.
50:16In that regard, we are talking about women.
50:18We are talking about women.
50:19And I will ask you to ask.
50:20Why is RSS in the RSS?
50:22Why is that women can't become women?
50:26Why is RSS in the RSS in the RSS in the RSS?
50:29In that regard, when I came to York GCom 밥 AND 밥,
50:30In also we had come to society next year and
50:41at the moment, we came to Senate birthday.
50:43About number two years, but they have decision
50:45on this...
50:47It makes the table
50:50much easier than 40 hours.
50:51And when the zumindest were people
50:53were selling,
50:54So in the same time, I got to come to their relationship.
50:58I never thought that they were marathed,
51:01but I thought that they were marathed,
51:04It has changed the language of this language,
51:08but it is not a form of human being.
51:10There is a unique attitude.
51:12The meaning of this language is called the Rastri,
51:13which is called the Stachalika.
51:15It is a master of the master.
51:17It was a master of the master.
51:18Like a master of Ram Kishnishan,
51:19a master of the Master of Ramadhan,
51:21it is not a master of the master of the master.
51:24And in some of the master of the master,
51:27I have also got a master of the master of the master of the master.
51:31And that was when I was in BJP, I was different from BJP.
51:35I was not doing the right thing, I was not doing the right thing.
51:38It was a small village, like England,
51:40so it was our job in the name of Hinduism in the name of the world.
51:43So my Sunday was reserved for them.
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