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In this edition of India Today, the focus is on India’s 61-run victory over Pakistan in the T20 World Cup in Colombo, which secured India’s progression to the Super 8s.
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00:00You know what the hell is saying?
00:01Amit, you are going to leave me a little while ago.
00:05It's about 16 months since I am young
00:06you got to kill me
00:07you can kill me
00:07you can kill me
00:10Pakistan will kill me
00:14Pakistan and India will kill me
00:17Pakistan will kill me
00:19meltdown in Pakistan after losing to India
00:22I will kill you
00:23I will kill you
00:25India seals blockbuster super 8 entry
00:44Pakistan boycott bluff ends in big defeat.
01:04Pakistan's pre-match posturing exposed.
01:11PCB chief flees before embarrassing loss.
01:20India dominance over Park now permanent.
01:28Hello and welcome to an India Today special broadcast.
01:32I'm Gaurav Savant and yes we are talking about India's spectacular win against Pakistan in
01:38the World Cup T20 International in Colombo.
01:40The question is should we even call Pakistan arch rivals Pakistan or is it now time to call
01:48them minnows Pakistan and it's the minnows vis-a-vis the giants, the titans because this isn't
01:55just one match or one series but just take a look at the recent cricketing history between
02:01India and Pakistan and their absolute collapse.
02:05It's almost like the Pakistan army in war.
02:10It's the Pakistan cricket team between those yards, 20 yards but while we get you more details
02:17about the collapse of the Pakistani team, 78 for 6, the 61 run defeat, the reactions in
02:24Pakistan.
02:25There are many who say that entire boycott drama wasn't about cricket.
02:29It was because Pakistan knew they cannot face India they thought they'd rather boycott and
02:35then there are those who say they should rather have boycotted instead of the shameful defeat
02:41of Pakistan.
02:42We get you more in this report on the meltdown in Pakistan and celebrations in India.
03:16We are saying that this is a strike rate.
03:17Pakistan is in complete meltdown after the crushing loss to India.
03:27The TV Todo moment returns.
03:30Furious fans venting anger.
03:32Our stomach is wrong.
03:34You're crazy.
03:35I've been sick of this.
03:36I've been sick of Pakistan and India.
03:42I've been sick of Pakistan.
03:44With this, we've been giving our peace and peace.
03:47Once again, I've been sick of this.
03:50We want to show India that you will feel like we are in a habit.
03:57On the field, Team India delivered total dominance.
04:02A clinical one-sided masterclass that sealed a 61-run victory.
04:07India's biggest ever win over Pakistan in T20 cricket in terms of runs.
04:14The result powers India into the Super 8s
04:17as they extend their record against them in T20 World Cups to 8-1.
04:24The defeat also exposed Pakistan's pre-match boycott drama,
04:28ending instead in a night of embarrassment.
04:32With PCB chief Mohsin Nakavi leaving the stadium early as Pakistan slipped to 78 for 6 while chasing 176.
04:41There were plans that Mr Mohsin Nakavi had made of probably inviting the Sri Lankan
04:47president over to his, you know, VIP box and then taking him to the dressing room of the Pakistan team.
04:54So those were the grand plans that Mr Mohsin Nakavi had.
04:57But eventually, he left the stadium even before the final rights were written.
05:07Back home, the Green Army's collapse triggered fury and disbelief.
05:12From stunt silence to raw anger across television studios and social media.
05:16The professional cricketers say you to yourself.
05:19Nine-nil, nine-nil.
05:22Nine-nil.
05:23The captain's captain saw what he played for.
05:27Attacked as much as he was grounded.
05:30Usman Tarek has dealt with so good.
05:32He didn't attack that our wicket won't fall.
05:36This is the captain's innings.
05:40Former Pakistan skippers led the backlash.
05:43Shahid Afridi and Shoaib Malik questioning strike rates,
05:46team balance and senior players' failure to perform.
05:50If I want to take a decision,
05:51then I'll put Shaheen, Babar, and Shadab.
05:56I'll give a chance for new girls.
05:58I'll give a chance for them.
06:03I'll give confidence for them.
06:05I'll give a chance for them.
06:06If we go a little back,
06:08then we say Babar Azam is the problem of the strike rate.
06:11Is Basit Bhai like this?
06:12The strike rate?
06:13Yes, right now.
06:14My heart is coming out that the strike rate is the problem of one person's strike rate.
06:18You don't have 4 numbers in open.
06:23While ex-spinner Danish Kaneria mocked the side,
06:27saying even a boycott may have been less humiliating than this one-sided defeat.
06:32As anger and embarrassment deepen,
06:35Pakistan's boycott bluster dies in complete shambles.
06:39Drowned out by defeat, dominance, and another emphatic Indian victory on the world stage.
06:45With Nikhil Nas, Sports Bureau, India Today.
06:52And joining me now from Colombo, our India Today is Vikrant Gupta and Nikhil Nas.
06:58Joining me from Pakistan is Abdullah Hamid Gul, Chairman Jawanan Party.
07:03Gentlemen, welcome.
07:05Vikrant, to you first, is it an India-Pakistan rivalry anymore?
07:11Are they arch rivals or are they clearly no longer rivals when it comes to?
07:16Just the two teams, how they match up?
07:20Clearly between 22 yards, we are far superior.
07:24Well, there is India-Pakistan rivalry.
07:27Not on the cricket field anymore, Gaurav.
07:30It's the post-Operation Sindhu that people will drum up the India-Pakistan rivalry.
07:36Like I said, not on the cricket field.
07:38And I must add that the tea is fantastic.
07:42You know, these Pakistani players have been mocking the Indians for a number of years now.
07:48Talking about the tea.
07:50Of course, you know what I am referring to.
07:53But this was a reality check for Pakistan.
07:57Absolutely.
07:58I think they were best served by boycotting the game.
08:01They should have stuck to the boycott.
08:04And they should have then taken a moral stand saying,
08:08Look, we are a little bit.
08:10We have thrown to India.
08:12The way they come out and take U-turns.
08:15And then claim that we have won.
08:18Good that the cricket matches are telecast live on TV.
08:22And you also know what I am referring to.
08:29Good that these cricket matches are telecast live on Pakistan.
08:32But the tea is fantastic.
08:33They would have said Pakistan has won.
08:37It indeed is.
08:39Abdullah Hamid Gul, welcome.
08:41Sir, reactions in Pakistan that we witness on television.
08:44There are many who say boycott would have been better and more honourable
08:49compared to this crushing defeat for Pakistan, sir.
08:54Thank you very much, Gaurav Saab, for taking me to your show.
08:58Well, first of all, congratulations.
09:00You played well.
09:01India played well.
09:02There is no doubt about it.
09:03And it was a good game of cricket.
09:05We enjoyed everyone last night.
09:07And I think the one who is going to work hard definitely is going to pay back.
09:14Pakistan did not perform well as we expected.
09:18Because I think lots of changes are to be done over here.
09:22And lots of changes are going to take place definitely in the game of cricket.
09:27But I think it was just a game of cricket.
09:30I think I do not want to mingle it with the political scenarios or the, you know, war scenarios.
09:36Because we all know what the, you know, West has been talking about.
09:42So I don't want to, you know, bring it to that point.
09:45I just want to keep it to the cricket.
09:47I think, well, you know, as far as if my, you know, other guest was referring to the cup of
09:57tea.
09:57It is just a video which is there, you know, none other by Abhinandan Sahib.
10:03So I think this is a video.
10:05This is also a documentary evidence.
10:07And like the live telecast of television, India played well.
10:11I think nickel batting was excellent.
10:14Very nicely played.
10:16The field was good.
10:17The bowling was good.
10:18And Pakistani players, you know, there was a lack of unity over there.
10:25There was lack of teamwork there.
10:28And I think everyone was trying to play their own game.
10:31And of course, we need to focus on the domestic cricket also.
10:36From where, you know, people should be selected.
10:38And, you know, they should come for the International Cricket Council tournament.
10:44You know, sure.
10:45If I may, if I may, Pakistan cricket actually represents Pakistan.
10:53The kiosk in Pakistan is the kiosk in Pakistan cricket team.
10:57You know, the amount of politics that's come into it, Nikhil.
11:00I also want to bring in Nikhil Naas into this conversation.
11:03Because the way Pakistan team played, there's such a huge difference between what they claim and what they deliver.
11:12It's all about, you know, very typical Pakistani propaganda vis-a-vis actual effects on ground, Nikhil.
11:23Well, you know, Gaurav, I'll probably mention two interesting points that should put into perspective the difference between India and
11:32Pakistan at the moment.
11:34And I'm going to be objective, try and stick to cricket.
11:37You know, there was a time where Pakistan did produce good cricketers.
11:40Every Indian knew each of the Pakistani players that would play simply because you wanted to know your rivals.
11:47You wanted to beat your rivals.
11:48And that's why you knew exactly the opposition you are up against.
11:51Whether it was Saeed Anwar's of the world or Vaseem Akram, Vaqar, Yone, Shoye Bakhtar.
11:55Every Indian knew that because you took them seriously.
11:59I don't think that the, forget the Indian team.
12:01You heard from Suru Kumar Yadav himself where he said it's no more a rivalry.
12:04And I think he's walking the talk by churning out the performance that he is one after the other.
12:09But look at the Indian fans as well.
12:11Hand on heart, if I was to walk around the streets of Colombo meeting thousands of Indian fans that have
12:16turned up.
12:16Or if you walk the streets of Delhi or Mumbai, ask even the biggest Indian cricket fan to name five
12:22Pakistani players.
12:23He'll struggle to name more than five.
12:25Why? Because of the lack of competition that comes from that side.
12:30They don't even bother to know the opposition because they know that opposition cannot hurt that.
12:35Because they know that the opposition is so far inferior to them that it's not an issue at all.
12:40So, I'm telling you, honestly, every Pakistani player will be able to name all Indian 11 players.
12:47In fact, 30, 40, 50 Indian cricketers that play in the IPL because they look up to it because that's
12:52the benchmark.
12:53I don't think an Indian fan will be able to name even five players.
12:56Secondly, I think, Gaurav, this rivalry would have been dead and buried if it wasn't for the politics.
13:02If Pakistan did not continue to push terror, if Pakistan and India were not involved in a skirmish at the
13:08border,
13:09if there was no Operation Sindur, honest to God, there would have been no taker for an India-Pakistan encounter.
13:14Not even the broadcaster, not even the fans that turned up.
13:17It's only because of a nationalistic froward and nationalistic feeling that Indians still want to watch an India-Pakistan encounter
13:23because of all other things that happens in the political world.
13:26If by any chance, let's say, politically it becomes all quiet on the LOC and otherwise also both governments don't
13:34engage
13:34and there is no terror-sponsored activity from Pakistan, let's say, for the next few years,
13:39nobody is going to watch an India-Pakistan encounter in India.
13:42They might as well watch India-Australia, India-England.
13:44So that rivalry is only dependent on the politics, not on the cricket.
13:48I completely agree.
13:50And that's the doing for Pakistan cricket which finds itself down in the dumps.
13:53Yeah.
13:56You know, I'd rather watch India-Australia, India-West Indies, India-England, India-New Zealand.
14:02I mean, these are countries you want to watch, you know, I'd rather skip India-Pakistan.
14:07But if we were to talk about the Pakistani team, Vikrant, and, you know, just a clinical assessment,
14:13what's going wrong with the Pakistani cricket team?
14:16Abdullah Hamid Gul had several points.
14:18You know, they don't play together.
14:19They're not coming together as a team.
14:21They're not cohesive.
14:22The amount of politics that's coming into the cricket team.
14:25In fact, Mohsen Nagpi is known more for the politics he brings to the cricket
14:30than to anything he may have done for Pakistan cricket.
14:33Vikrant.
14:34Gaurav, like you said, I mean, any country's sports will be a reflection of the state of the country.
14:44We all know.
14:45I mean, Hamid Gul-sav will know better than us.
14:48I've been to Pakistan many times and I've seen Pakistan cricket in their palm.
14:54I come from a generation and I grew up in Punjab where we would see Pakistan television
15:00and we thought maybe Pakistan was more progressive in the 80s, even until the mid 90s.
15:06Cricket was a reflection of the country that they were living in.
15:10The point is, see, whatever ills are there with their team, we've got nothing to do with that.
15:16They cannot blame India if the system is broken, if they are not cohesive, if there is politicking.
15:22But that's not our concern.
15:24The point that Nikhil was trying to make is that, you know, for the last two odd weeks,
15:30they were tom-tomming the broadcaster.
15:33They were tom-tomming the fact that there was revenue riding on the game.
15:36But I told you that day, Gaurav, it is like WWE.
15:42WWE, the pay-per-view is the maximum in world sport.
15:46People know that it's Noorakushti, it is not a real fight that goes on.
15:50You know that one guy is going to win and he's going to bash up the other.
15:54It's the same with India-Pakistan in the ICC tournaments.
15:58150 crore Indians switch on the television, the day India is playing Pakistan,
16:02because they know that India is going to bash them up.
16:06You know, again, like I said, I grew up in a generation where Pakistan dominated us.
16:11We had that mental block.
16:13Ever since Javed, Mia, David, that sixth of Chetan Sharma in 1986,
16:19it took us eight or nine years to beat them in Sharjah.
16:23They were winning every game.
16:24There were games we were very close to winning, but we could not finish them off.
16:28Why?
16:29Because we didn't have that self-belief against them.
16:31They were fighters, they had that killer instinct.
16:34They had wonderful players and they had Imran Khan.
16:37What can I say of a country where Imran Khan, the news that we are getting from Pakistan,
16:44I mean, the greatest cricketer ever produced by that country,
16:48the man who won the World Cup, the man who is also Prime Minister,
16:52he's lost his vision.
16:53He's languishing in jail.
16:54He's languishing in jail, he's lost his vision.
16:57The man who saw tomorrow, the man who saw tomorrow is without his vision.
17:04So what can we say?
17:06And, you know, it's again...
17:08Let me quickly...
17:09Let me get Abdullah Hamid Gul to also...
17:12Yeah, no, let me get Abdullah Hamid Gul also to reflect on this.
17:16You know, your cricket team, sir, reflects the state of your country
17:19and perhaps the situation that Imran Khan is in.
17:22And you can guide us better because we are only going through reports
17:25that come in from Pakistan.
17:26They seem to indicate he's lost 85% vision in one eye.
17:30He's languishing in Adiala Jail.
17:32He's not getting the best medical attention that he deserves to get.
17:35And these are...
17:36This is not just his family who's saying it.
17:38His party leaders are saying it.
17:40Is that what is wrong with Pakistan cricket?
17:42Too much politics coming into Pakistan cricket and not enough sport?
17:48Gaurav, you know, I could have levelled all the allegations and charges, you know,
17:54by my, you know, fellow colleagues over here.
17:58But this is not the forum because we are discussing cricket
18:00and I want to, you know, stick to cricket.
18:04If cricket is the reflection of the country,
18:07then, of course, the military is also the reflection of the country.
18:10And the whole world knows the truth story about the, you know,
18:14Markai Hak in May 2025.
18:17Which is not true.
18:17I don't want to go into the details.
18:19That is exactly...
18:19I don't want to go into the details.
18:20Sir, if you permit me...
18:21No, I want to go into it.
18:23I want to go into it so that Pakistanis know the truth.
18:27You, you know, had that been life, you knew you would have lost...
18:31Sir, if bombs were falling in Rawalpindi and Lahore, have a heart.
18:36If bombs were falling,
18:37BrahMos missiles were falling in Rawalpindi and...
18:39In Lahore and you say you won?
18:42Your media was also reporting that they have, you know...
18:46No, no, don't worry what media was reporting.
18:49We are reporting what your media was reporting.
18:52Your media was reporting Rawalpindi, Noor Khan.
18:56Sir, you're a general son.
18:58You're a general son.
18:59You know, just give me one statement of Mr. Trump.
19:01Trump never said Indian.
19:02You're a general son.
19:04India bombed everything and Pakistan, you're lost.
19:06Just give me one statement of, you know, Mr. Donald Trump.
19:1078 times...
19:11Give me one statement of Trump where he said Indian planes were lost.
19:14He said that India was crushed by Pakistan.
19:16You know...
19:16Did he say India?
19:17No.
19:18Did he say India?
19:19No.
19:22No, you know, if we have to talk like this, then there is no use.
19:26Sir, that is the tragedy with Pakistanis.
19:29That is the tragedy of Pakistan.
19:32That is the tragedy of Pakistan.
19:34Abdullah Hamid Gul.
19:35That is the tragedy of Pakistan.
19:37Aapko sach sunnah nahi aata.
19:40Nowhere did Trump say India lost the aircraft.
19:43That is Pakistani propaganda.
19:44And that is the propaganda you believe.
19:47Not once did he say India.
19:48The tragedy is...
19:50You show me one statement where he said India.
19:52But Pakistan cannot show that statement.
19:54But let me bring in Nikhil.
19:56You know...
19:57I am so glad Pakistan lost...
20:00Operation Sindur...
20:01Operation Sindur to cricket.
20:04That's the only language Pakistan deserves.
20:07Crush them.
20:08Crush them.
20:09Sir, aap America ke aagee kitana bhi bheek manglo...
20:13Imagine a country that needs Pakistan...
20:15Just put his audio down ya...
20:17A country that needs Pakistan...
20:19A country that...
20:21A country that...
20:21Oh, come on.
20:22A country that needs to be rescued by America...
20:25Every time with a begging bowl...
20:27Is now talking to us.
20:28That's the truth about Pakistan.
20:30Nowhere did Trump say India lost the aircraft.
20:32He said aircraft were lost.
20:34And India has said officially on record...
20:36Pakistan lost two aircraft with those who are his...
20:38Airborne early warning command and control systems.
20:41They lost eight of their F-16s and JF-17s.
20:44All of that is known.
20:45It's in public domain.
20:46But no Pakistani will mention that.
20:48No Pakistani will mention...
20:50The loss to your air bases.
20:52Your radar stations.
20:54Because they don't listen to Pakistan.
20:56And they won 71 in their minds.
20:59But Nikhil...
21:01When it comes to Pakistan cricket...
21:02It's exactly the same thing.
21:05In their minds they think they will defeat India.
21:07But the truth is...
21:09They lose each time.
21:11Why does Pakistan lose each time?
21:12And statistics.
21:14You don't just go by one game.
21:16It is a long statistics...
21:17That list of...
21:18You know...
21:19Games...
21:19That Pakistan has lost.
21:24Well I'll tell you why they lose very often.
21:27There are many cricketing reasons.
21:28And the simple answer to that is...
21:30There is a huge difference in the skill level between...
21:32Where the Indian team is.
21:34Where the Pakistan team is.
21:35Dare I say...
21:35If India were to put...
21:36Maybe three teams...
21:38At the moment...
21:39Playing simultaneously...
21:41Versus Pakistan...
21:42There's a good chance that India's B...
21:43And even C team might beat them.
21:45And this is not being...
21:46Me being arrogant.
21:47I'm just looking at it very objectively.
21:48And looking at the...
21:50Ben strength that India has.
21:51But just to let you know...
21:51Why is it that Pakistan loses this match?
21:54And in fact...
21:55I think they lose the match...
21:56Even before the first ball is bowled.
21:57I'll give you another example.
21:59You know...
21:59India played the Champions Trophy.
22:02Their games were in Dubai.
22:04Right?
22:04You know...
22:04What did Pakistan do...
22:06About that Champions Trophy?
22:07They started cribbing...
22:08Even before the match started...
22:10That this is unfair advantage to India.
22:12They are sitting in Dubai.
22:13All other teams have to travel.
22:14We have to travel between...
22:16You know...
22:16Sri Lanka.
22:16We have to travel to Pakistan.
22:18We have to travel to Dubai.
22:19This is unfair.
22:20India gets this unfair advantage.
22:22Stationed in one place...
22:23They are acclimatized to that area.
22:24They know the condition.
22:25This is the unfair advantage...
22:26That India has gotten.
22:27You know what happened in this tournament?
22:29Pakistan is based in Sri Lanka.
22:31Indian team played a game...
22:32Late Thursday night.
22:33Traveled on Friday night.
22:34Practiced one session on Saturday.
22:36Played a game.
22:37Wrapped up Pakistan.
22:38You know...
22:39Very, very quickly.
22:40Went home.
22:40And you know what?
22:41Not a single Indian player...
22:42Even complained about...
22:43The hectic travel schedule.
22:44Or...
22:45That Pakistan had been stationed here.
22:46They know the conditions.
22:47They get that thing.
22:48Because they knew...
22:49Their job is to play cricket.
22:50Not come up with excuse.
22:52Pakistan comes up with excuse.
22:53You look at their analysis...
22:55After they have lost.
22:55You know what their analysis is?
22:57Oh...
22:57Baba Razan ko nikal do.
22:58Shaheen Shah Afridi ko nikal do.
23:00Shadaab ko nikal do.
23:01But what will happen?
23:02Aap un ko nikal do.
23:03Who are you gonna bring?
23:04You'll bring a Hussain Talat.
23:05You'll probably bring a Rizwan back.
23:07You'll remove a Shaheen.
23:08You'll bring a Naseem Shah.
23:09Or you'll get...
23:10You know...
23:10Haris Rao back.
23:11The thing is...
23:11It's the same circle of prayers.
23:13You keep rotating.
23:14Some of them were playing in Asia Cup.
23:15Where they lost 3-0.
23:16Now you want them back.
23:17The thing is...
23:18You do not want to catch the bull by its horn.
23:21Look it into his face.
23:22And say...
23:23You're inferior at the moment.
23:24The structure of Pakistan cricket is not there.
23:27You can replace X by Y or Y by Z.
23:29The fact of the matter is...
23:30No one who ever comes...
23:31Cannot beat this Indian team.
23:33Because the structure is not there.
23:34You have to start at the grassroot level.
23:36Look at those areas.
23:37And then maybe...
23:39And it's a big maybe...
23:40Yes.
23:40In 10 years or 15 years time...
23:42You might compete with India.
23:43Not at the moment.
23:47In 10 years or 15 years...
23:48Will there be a Pakistan?
23:49Again is an issue...
23:51That Pakistanis will have to grapple with.
23:52Because Balochistan already...
23:54Has shown through Hirof 2.0...
23:56You know...
23:57Their power...
23:58And the Tariqe Taliban Pakistan...
24:00In Khaybar Pakhtun Khua.
24:01But be that as it may...
24:02That's a separate story.
24:04But Vikrant...
24:04The problem with Pakistan...
24:06And I'm quoting some Pakistani analysts...
24:08Who say...
24:09It's the Maibaab Sarkar.
24:10Every powerful political leader...
24:12Wants his nephew in the team.
24:14So it's not talent.
24:16It's not merit.
24:16It's contacts.
24:18And of course...
24:18It's Mohsin Nakhvi's arrogance.
24:20That's ruining Pakistan cricket.
24:22Vikrant...
24:23Is that true?
24:23Since you and Nikhil...
24:24Study the subject so well.
24:26Gaurav...
24:27To be very honest...
24:28I mean...
24:29Mohsin Nakhvi is...
24:31An important figure in Pakistan...
24:33Politically.
24:34And cricket...
24:35Is something that he also runs.
24:38The point is...
24:39Every India-Pakistan game...
24:41He turns that into the India-Pakistan...
24:44Political rivalry.
24:46Now...
24:46This wasn't the first time...
24:48We've seen many times...
24:50He would go...
24:51To the Pakistani teams...
24:53One day...
24:54Two days before the game...
24:55He'd meet the team...
24:56He'd address them...
24:58And the players...
24:59The international players...
25:00Would be sitting there like a...
25:01Bunch of school kids...
25:03Listening to him...
25:04He would give them...
25:05Some lecture...
25:06And the team would lose...
25:08The next day...
25:09When he came...
25:10To Sri Lanka...
25:10I told Nikhil Nikhil...
25:12If he's actually...
25:13Going to meet the players...
25:14One night before the game...
25:15Pakistan will be...
25:17Dead and buried...
25:17And that's exactly...
25:18What happened...
25:19Because you put pressure...
25:20On the players...
25:21Saying...
25:21Go...
25:22Do...
25:23Do...
25:25No...
25:26You let your players...
25:27Focus on the game...
25:29See...
25:29Mr. Hamid Gul...
25:30Is absolutely right...
25:32Cricket...
25:32Is cricket...
25:33And the rest is...
25:35In a different box...
25:36But who's combining...
25:37The two of them...
25:39Nobody is...
25:40It's the Pakistanis...
25:41And Maaseen Nak...
25:42We should have stood...
25:43By the players...
25:43I'll just...
25:44Give you one example...
25:45And I'm sorry...
25:46Gul...
25:48Because again...
25:49Sure...
25:49I know...
25:50Deep in your heart...
25:50You will understand...
25:51What I'm trying to say...
25:53So Maaseen Nak...
25:54He was at the ground...
25:55Of course he can...
25:56Because he's the...
25:56Pakistan cricket board chairman...
25:58And...
25:59He was all ready...
26:00To cheer for his team...
26:02Of course he wanted...
26:03His team to win...
26:04So when he saw...
26:05That the team was losing...
26:06The Pakistani team was losing...
26:09Much before the game ended...
26:11He left the stadium...
26:13There are visuals on the...
26:14Screen that we can see...
26:15He left the stadium...
26:16Yeah...
26:16He abandoned his players...
26:19Right...
26:19But to...
26:2119th November...
26:232023...
26:24The World Cup final...
26:25In Ahmedabad...
26:26India were playing Australia...
26:27India lost the finals...
26:28We were all...
26:29Very depressed...
26:30The country was in depression...
26:32The Prime Minister of the country...
26:33Mr. Narend Modi...
26:34Went to the Indian dressing room...
26:36He did not abandon them...
26:37Of course...
26:38If India had won...
26:40He...
26:40Would have congratulated the team...
26:42But he went there...
26:43Consoled them...
26:44Said...
26:45If you are the...
26:47Second best in the world...
26:49So be it...
26:50That's how...
26:52Your leaders...
26:53Must inspire generations...
26:55That's how you...
26:57Back your sportsmen...
26:57That's...
26:58How...
26:59You create heroes...
27:01The criticism...
27:03Yeah...
27:04You're...
27:04That's a great point...
27:06You made...
27:06Because Abdullah Hamid Gul Saab...
27:07The criticism in Pakistan...
27:09Or of Pakistan cricket...
27:11Is...
27:11Your leaders...
27:13Use...
27:14The team...
27:15For self glory...
27:17To gain themselves...
27:18And not for the team to gain...
27:20Is that fair criticism...
27:21Of Mohsin Nakwee?
27:24I wish you could have...
27:26You know...
27:27Hear me...
27:27The same way...
27:28You are hearing your two other guests...
27:31But unfortunately...
27:32You just muted my mic...
27:34And you know...
27:34You kept on saying your things...
27:36Anyhow...
27:37I will...
27:37Because I will not let you...
27:39Lie on my tail...
27:39Because I know that's the truth...
27:41Allow me...
27:41Or if you want to talk...
27:42You can talk...
27:43I'll keep quiet...
27:44You can talk...
27:45As much as you wish...
27:48It's your podium...
27:51Or should I talk?
27:51But...
27:52If you speak the truth...
27:53If you speak the truth...
27:54You're most welcome to speak...
27:56Yes...
27:56Tell me about Mohsin Nakwee...
27:57You can counter my arguments...
27:59But...
28:00You know...
28:00If you do not want me to speak...
28:02I'll just keep quiet...
28:03And just...
28:04Be a witness...
28:05And you know...
28:06You keep your bashing...
28:07Whatever you want to do...
28:09Okay...
28:09If you know...
28:10If it is like this...
28:11Then you know...
28:12Well...
28:12As far as the team is concerned...
28:14Sir...
28:15You have 30 seconds...
28:16To say your piece...
28:17I think the same debate...
28:17The same debate...
28:19Was being...
28:20You know...
28:21Heard...
28:21On Indian televisions...
28:23About when Indian team...
28:24Was not performing...
28:26Now they are performing...
28:27That's good for them...
28:28Pakistan...
28:29Needs to work hard...
28:31Pakistan...
28:31You know...
28:32Ruled the cricket once...
28:33Pakistan...
28:34Ruled hockey...
28:36Squash...
28:36And snooker...
28:38Now...
28:38If there is a...
28:39You know...
28:40There is an up and down...
28:41Everywhere in the world...
28:42In economy...
28:44In...
28:44You know...
28:45Military...
28:47Strategy...
28:48Diplomacy...
28:49You know...
28:49In Pakistan...
28:50You must wonder...
28:51Why...
28:52Why there is down...
28:53Down...
28:53And more down...
28:54Why are there no...
28:55Ups in Pakistan...
28:57For the simple reason...
28:58That you must know...
28:59And since you are listening to me...
29:00Allow me...
29:01Allow me to respond...
29:02I want you to experience this...
29:04And only I am...
29:05Allow me to respond...
29:06You had your time...
29:07You wasted it...
29:08Quite like Pakistan...
29:09Does...
29:10Sir...
29:11You lost...
29:12Nine of your...
29:13Terror headquarters...
29:14And you are aware of...
29:15Mureetke...
29:15And Bahawalpur...
29:16You also lost...
29:17Many of your...
29:18Military installations...
29:20Including your...
29:20Air bases...
29:21That were lost...
29:22In Operation Sindur...
29:23And since...
29:23You understand matters...
29:25Military...
29:25You know...
29:26What a loss it is...
29:27When Sargoda is hit...
29:28When Noor Khan is hit...
29:29When Rahim Yar Khan is hit...
29:31When Jacob Abad is hit...
29:32When Bulari is hit...
29:33And then...
29:34When Pakistan...
29:35Seeks a ceasefire...
29:36You know...
29:37That's...
29:38Abject surrender...
29:39Which you are...
29:40Unwilling to accept...
29:41And that is why...
29:42You will try to fire off...
29:43Donald Trump's shoulders...
29:44No sir...
29:45The world...
29:46Does not listen...
29:47And I am so glad...
29:48I am so glad...
29:49Everything is live...
29:50So that the world knows...
29:52When...
29:53Pakistan lost...
29:54Whether it's on the 22 yards...
29:56Or in Operation Sindur...
29:58Or in times to come...
29:59I want to thank...
30:00Nikhil...
30:00Vikrant...
30:01And Abdullah Hamid Gull...
30:03For joining me here...
30:04On this India First Special Broadcast...
30:11In picturesque Tawang...
30:13At the Buddhist Monastery...
30:15Here...
30:15In Tawang...
30:16Listening to...
30:17Soul soothing...
30:18Buddhist chants...
30:20With me...
30:20Is...
30:21Union Parliamentary Affairs Minister...
30:23Kiran Rijiju...
30:24Who's travelled to the border areas...
30:26In Tawang...
30:27In Arunachal Pradesh...
30:28But Minister...
30:29Are you now...
30:30Geared up for a...
30:31A...
30:32Very loud...
30:33Perhaps noisy...
30:34Second...
30:35Part of the budget session...
30:36The first part...
30:37We saw...
30:38Was that the trailer...
30:38Do we see the movie now?
30:40No...
30:41For the government...
30:42Every...
30:44Parliament session is important...
30:45Because...
30:46That is a mandate...
30:49Given by the constitution...
30:51And we are duty bound...
30:52To follow the...
30:53Rules and regulations...
30:56As it has been prescribed...
30:58So...
30:58We are prepared for...
31:01Any kind of situation...
31:03Because...
31:03That is our duty...
31:04So...
31:04I am prepared...
31:05And looking forward...
31:06To the...
31:06Second part of the...
31:08Parliament session...
31:09Will Rahul Gandhi...
31:10Be permitted to speak...
31:11As leader of opposition...
31:12Because the opposition...
31:13Feels...
31:14He...
31:15His voice...
31:16Is being cut off...
31:17Literally...
31:18And figuratively...
31:18In parliament...
31:20No...
31:20We can't make...
31:21Parliament...
31:22A laughing stock...
31:24Because...
31:24When you are speaking...
31:26In parliament...
31:27You are...
31:28To follow...
31:29Certain...
31:30Rules...
31:31There are...
31:32Rules of procedure...
31:33And conduct of business...
31:35Which is...
31:36There...
31:36Since long time...
31:38When these rules...
31:39Were framed...
31:41Rahul Gandhi's...
31:42Grandfather...
31:43Grandmother...
31:44They were there...
31:45During that time...
31:46These rules were made...
31:48Even Rahul Gandhi's...
31:49Father...
31:51Grandfather...
31:53Grandmother...
31:53They will also...
31:55Follow the rules...
31:56And I...
31:57Believe that...
31:57They have never broken...
31:58The rules of the parliament...
32:00It is only Rahul Gandhi...
32:02Who just...
32:03Doesn't understand rules...
32:04Who doesn't...
32:05Follow the norms...
32:07Conventions...
32:08Of the...
32:09Parliamentary...
32:10Proceedings...
32:10Which is very...
32:12Unfortunate...
32:13There are people...
32:14Who say that...
32:15Rahul Gandhi...
32:16Should be allowed...
32:16To speak...
32:18Tell me...
32:19It's a plain question...
32:20A book...
32:21Which is not published...
32:23A sensitive book...
32:25Which is...
32:26Not been published...
32:27Yet...
32:28And which is...
32:29Been clearly...
32:30Stated by the...
32:32Publishers...
32:32And the author...
32:34Still...
32:35Rahul Gandhi...
32:35Wants to...
32:36Quote it...
32:37Where from...
32:38He quote it...
32:38When the book...
32:39Is not published...
32:40Who has...
32:41Made this kind of...
32:42Dirty story...
32:43To damage...
32:44The...
32:45Security setup...
32:46Or the confidence...
32:48And morale...
32:49Of...
32:49Our soldiers...
32:50Our people...
32:51Is it good...
32:53That...
32:53You can court...
32:55Anything...
32:55Without rules...
32:56And regulation...
32:57We can't...
32:58If we allow him...
32:59To speak...
33:00Without following...
33:01Any...
33:02Rules...
33:03Then we will be...
33:04Accused...
33:05Of...
33:06Letting...
33:07Lose...
33:08The parliament...
33:09Without observing...
33:10Any stipulated rules...
33:12You know...
33:13You are son of the soil...
33:14And...
33:14You take a lot of interest...
33:15In...
33:16Issues of national security...
33:17And you understand...
33:18The situation...
33:19At India-Tibet border...
33:20Whether it's...
33:21Arunachal Pradesh...
33:22Or in Ladakh...
33:23Or...
33:23Or the middle sector...
33:24Tell me this...
33:25Even if he's...
33:27Quoting something...
33:28It's the...
33:28These are the thoughts...
33:29Of an army...
33:30Ex-armi chief...
33:31If he says...
33:33Quoting the Raksha Mantri...
33:36Um...
33:37Is that not a free hand...
33:39Given...
33:39As some...
33:40You have to understand...
33:42One thing...
33:42I feel...
33:43Sometimes...
33:44Our people don't...
33:45Devote much time...
33:47To understand...
33:48What the matter is...
33:50Right...
33:51And wrong...
33:52And policies...
33:53And directions...
33:54Will come later...
33:55First of all...
33:57Is he allowed...
33:58To quote...
33:58A book...
33:59Which is not published yet...
34:01That is the basic...
34:03He got stuck there...
34:05He doesn't know...
34:06Anything else to speak...
34:07He comes with...
34:08A cheat...
34:09A note shit...
34:11Which has been provided...
34:12By...
34:12His NGO advisors...
34:14And then he gets...
34:16Stuck to that...
34:18National security...
34:19Is much beyond...
34:21Secondly...
34:22If we...
34:24Keep discussing about...
34:26What is the conversation...
34:27Between defence minister...
34:28And prime minister...
34:30The defence minister...
34:31And army chief...
34:32Army chief...
34:32And a local commander...
34:34If you are going to discuss...
34:36This thing...
34:37Just for the sake of...
34:38Your own interest...
34:39Or in general news...
34:42How...
34:42The nation's security...
34:43Will be...
34:44Taken care of...
34:46This is not a...
34:48Child's play...
34:49This is serious...
34:50National security matter...
34:52Should you be...
34:53Discussing about...
34:54The conversation...
34:55Of...
34:56Something which is...
34:57Highly...
34:58Privileged...
35:00And...
35:00Highly sensitive...
35:03Communication...
35:03Between the people...
35:05Who are sitting...
35:05In their responsible positions...
35:07It is not that easy...
35:08To...
35:09To understand...
35:10But at least...
35:11People like Rahul Gandhi...
35:12Should understand...
35:13I don't know...
35:14In Congress...
35:15Party...
35:16Nobody has the ability...
35:17To...
35:18Tell Rahul Gandhi...
35:19That what...
35:20He is doing...
35:21Is a childish act...
35:22And it is...
35:23Actually...
35:25Diminishing...
35:25His own stature...
35:26And undermining...
35:28The national security...
35:29Sir...
35:29That's a very grave charge...
35:31That you...
35:32As Union...
35:32Parliamentary Affairs Minister...
35:34Is levelling...
35:34On the leader of opposition...
35:36That he's been given...
35:37Chits...
35:37By some NGO...
35:39Which is...
35:39Which is this NGO...
35:41And...
35:42You know...
35:42What kind of advice...
35:44Is that detrimental...
35:45To national security...
35:47No...
35:47There are many NGOs...
35:49Worldwide...
35:50Who are working...
35:51In India also...
35:52They keep...
35:52Working against...
35:53National interest of India...
35:56And these NGOs...
35:57Are in tandem...
35:58Working with Rahul Gandhi...
36:00So that is why...
36:00Rahul Gandhi speaks...
36:02What...
36:03Will...
36:04Damage...
36:05India's...
36:05National interest...
36:06If you...
36:07Closely monitor...
36:09And...
36:09If you...
36:10Recall...
36:11All those...
36:12Statesmen...
36:13Statements...
36:14Which Rahul Gandhi has made...
36:15All those...
36:17People...
36:18Which...
36:18Rahul Gandhi has been...
36:20Travelling around...
36:21And meeting...
36:22Then you will easily...
36:23Come to know...
36:23The...
36:25Company of people...
36:26Which Rahul Gandhi...
36:27Always...
36:28Seem to be...
36:29Working along with...
36:31So...
36:31Rahul Gandhi as leader of opposition...
36:33Is damaging national interest...
36:34Is what you see...
36:35He is the...
36:36Most...
36:38Dangerous person...
36:39Right now...
36:40To...
36:41Harm...
36:41The national interest...
36:42Because...
36:43When he speaks...
36:45People think that...
36:46He is a leader of opposition...
36:48So...
36:49It has a connotation...
36:50And it has a ramification...
36:51So...
36:52When leader of opposition speaks...
36:54It has its own importance...
36:56And its own impact...
36:58So...
36:58That is why I said...
37:00That...
37:00When he speaks...
37:01Against...
37:02India's national interest...
37:03It has...
37:05Deep...
37:06Replications...
37:06When he says that...
37:08Indian...
37:09Army...
37:09Have been humiliated...
37:11By the Chinese...
37:12When he says that...
37:13India has been defeated...
37:14By the Pakistanis...
37:16When he says that...
37:17Indian economy is dead...
37:19When Rahul Gandhi says that...
37:20Indian democracy is dead...
37:22That harms India...
37:24More than if anybody else...
37:25Would have said it...
37:27Sir...
37:28In this second session...
37:30Part of the budget session...
37:31The opposition is already...
37:33Raising questions...
37:34About the Epstein files...
37:36They are asking questions...
37:38About why...
37:39A current...
37:40Union minister...
37:41Of course...
37:41Who was then...
37:42A next...
37:44A top...
37:44Ex-diplomat...
37:45Why was he...
37:46Or a top...
37:47Industrialist...
37:48In touch...
37:48With such...
37:49See...
37:49We are not...
37:51Here to talk about...
37:53Who has done what...
37:55If...
37:56If...
37:56My party...
37:57Or...
37:58My leader...
37:59Have been implicated...
38:00In certain case...
38:01Then I will react...
38:02When it comes to...
38:04Hardi Puri...
38:04He has himself...
38:05Clarified...
38:07That he has not done...
38:08Anything wrong...
38:09And when he had...
38:10Exchanges...
38:11Some kind of a...
38:12Conversation...
38:13Mail or...
38:13These are for...
38:15India's interests...
38:15He did it...
38:16He was not minister...
38:17That time...
38:18He was diplomat...
38:20And he did it...
38:21In the capacity of...
38:22A responsible person...
38:24At that time...
38:25And as per his claim...
38:27And his statement...
38:28He has done...
38:30All those things...
38:31To...
38:32Further...
38:32National interest...
38:33For India's interest...
38:34That's all...
38:35I don't have...
38:36To offer anything else...
38:37Beyond that...
38:38I also want to ask you...
38:39You know...
38:40Before I let you go...
38:40And I know...
38:41You have a big...
38:42Schedule here...
38:43Lined up in...
38:44But I also want to...
38:45Quickly ask you...
38:46About the...
38:47India-US trade deal...
38:48The Prime Minister...
38:49Has spoken about it...
38:50But...
38:51Should the parliament...
38:52Not have been briefed...
38:52Because again...
38:53You know...
38:54The leader of opposition...
38:55And then there are others...
38:55Who say...
38:56That interests of Indian farmers...
38:58Have been compromised...
38:59In certain aspects...
39:01You know...
39:01They talk about...
39:02They talk about...
39:04Additional items...
39:05And they are saying...
39:06This is where...
39:06Our interests are...
39:07No...
39:07There are two things...
39:09The opposition parties...
39:11Have no right...
39:11To talk about...
39:12Discussion or statement...
39:14In the parliament...
39:14Because they don't want...
39:15To take part in the discussion...
39:16And they don't want...
39:17To let parliament...
39:18Function smoothly...
39:19So forget about...
39:20The opposition demand...
39:22For discussion...
39:23Because...
39:23They themselves...
39:24Don't want discussion...
39:25Actually...
39:25It's just mere...
39:26A political stunt...
39:27To give statement...
39:29Secondly...
39:30No...
39:31Community...
39:32No...
39:33Section of the society...
39:34In India...
39:35Whether it's...
39:36Farmers...
39:37The laborers...
39:38Or the...
39:38Manufacturers...
39:40Or our...
39:40Industry workers...
39:42You see...
39:43All...
39:44The section...
39:45Not a single...
39:47Time...
39:48You will...
39:48You will see...
39:49That their...
39:50Interest has...
39:51Ever been compromised...
39:52Especially during...
39:53Prime Minister Modi's tenure...
39:56Nothing...
39:57Is to be worried...
39:58Because...
39:58It is...
39:59Prime Minister's...
40:00You know...
40:01Commitment to the nation...
40:02That...
40:02The interest of...
40:04Everybody...
40:05Will be protected...
40:06But when in the trade...
40:08You are...
40:09Doing...
40:09You know...
40:09Give and take...
40:10And understanding...
40:11And...
40:11Some kind of...
40:12Adjustment...
40:13These are the details...
40:14Which the concerned...
40:15Minister will see...
40:16How much...
40:17We will benefit India...
40:18How much...
40:19We have access to the...
40:2030...
40:20Trillion dollar...
40:21For US economy...
40:22These are details...
40:23Because I am not...
40:25Authorized...
40:25To...
40:27Detail about all this thing...
40:28Because...
40:28I am not part of the negotiation...
40:30The concerned...
40:31Minister...
40:31Mr. Pius Gowal...
40:32Has...
40:33Already spoken in detail...
40:35In...
40:36In...
40:36Couple of times...
40:37That...
40:38How...
40:39This deal...
40:40Is actually...
40:43Huge...
40:43A benefit...
40:44To India...
40:45And there is nothing...
40:46That India has...
40:47Surrendered...
40:47Or...
40:48Sacrificed...
40:48So...
40:49Will there be a debate...
40:50On this...
40:50In parliament...
40:51In Lok Sabha...
40:52He wasn't able to speak...
40:53In Lok Sabha...
40:53I can't say right now...
40:54Because...
40:55We will see...
40:56When the...
40:56Second part of the budget session...
40:58Convenes...
40:59So...
40:59What is the biggest thing...
41:00That you intend doing...
41:01In the...
41:01In the second part of budget session...
41:03If the opposition continues to obstruct...
41:05No...
41:06We don't have to think...
41:07Anything...
41:07Extra thing...
41:08We have to conduct the business...
41:10And...
41:10Transject the business...
41:11We have to take care of the country...
41:13We don't...
41:13We are not here to...
41:14Serve the opposition people...
41:15We are here to serve the nation...
41:17If opposition parties...
41:19Not interested in running the house...
41:20We will run the house...
41:22And we will transact the business...
41:23No...
41:23We are not...
41:24Answerable...
41:25To one member...
41:26To member...
41:27We are answerable...
41:28To the...
41:29Entire parliament...
41:30So...
41:31Parliament cannot be...
41:32Put to hostage...
41:33By one party...
41:34Or one leader...
41:34Do others...
41:35In the opposition...
41:36Want to participate?
41:37There are many...
41:38Opposition parties...
41:39Which are blaming...
41:40Rahul Gandhi...
41:40And Congress party now...
41:42Because of the...
41:43That...
41:45One man's...
41:47His...
41:48Own...
41:48Style of functioning...
41:50The other...
41:51Smaller parties...
41:52Members...
41:53Who would have...
41:54Got chance to speak...
41:55And contribute...
41:56They...
41:57They have lost the chance...
41:58So they are actually...
41:59Very upset with Rahul Gandhi...
42:01Sir...
42:01Women MPs are upset...
42:02They are saying that...
42:03Why is...
42:03Why are you saying...
42:04That women MPs...
42:05Were out to target...
42:06The Prime Minister...
42:07Are you saying...
42:07They were out to...
42:08Physically...
42:08Bodily harm him?
42:09They can't harm...
42:10But we can...
42:12Only say that...
42:13When...
42:13If they want to...
42:14Harm the Prime Minister...
42:15We will...
42:16Allow our MPs...
42:17To also come and protect...
42:19So the situation...
42:20Would have been very ugly...
42:21Our numbers are more...
42:22We had prevented...
42:23Our MPs from going down...
42:25Just imagine...
42:26If we had also...
42:27Told our MPs...
42:28To go and confront...
42:29It will be very ugly...
42:30Then you will also say that...
42:32Why...
42:33We are not stopping...
42:34Our own MPs...
42:35Why this fight...
42:36Has taken place...
42:37The physical confrontation...
42:38Is not the way...
42:39To function parliament...
42:40How will you stop this...
42:42Next time...
42:42In the...
42:43Second part of the budget session...
42:44Should something...
42:45There are enough...
42:46Mechanism in the...
42:47Rules...
42:48To take care of...
42:48All this thing...
43:08It's snowing heavily here...
43:09Near the line of actual control...
43:12Several vehicles were held up...
43:14In fact...
43:15Parliamentary Affairs Minister...
43:16Kiran Rijiju...
43:17His vehicle was also held up...
43:19So the Border Road Organization...
43:20They've put chains on vehicles...
43:22Those vehicles that have chained...
43:24As you can see here...
43:26Those vehicles are able to move forward...
43:28The others...
43:29Are being sent back...
43:31It's extremely...
43:32Extremely risky...
43:33The manner in which these vehicles...
43:35Are now moving up...
43:37But...
43:37Just a short while back...
43:39Listen in to my conversation...
43:40With...
43:41Union Parliamentary Affairs Minister...
43:43Kiran Rijiju...
43:43As vehicles were slipping...
43:45It's a slippery road...
43:48Whether...
43:48It's the parliament budget session...
43:51Or...
43:52The line of actual control...
43:54Where we are...
43:55Right now...
43:56Listen in...
43:57Have you been repulsed?
44:03Have you been repulsed?
44:05Yes...
44:05But...
44:05In the meantime...
44:05We're here...
44:09Here...
44:09By Junction...
44:10Boomla...
44:10Sangeet sir...
44:12And...
44:13In the meantime...
44:13Or...
44:13In 2022...
44:14There was a lot...
44:15In the meantime...
44:17Anyway...
44:18You're the parliamentary affairs minister...
44:19And...
44:20You're the son of the soil...
44:21There's a lot...
44:31As son of the soil, NS Parliamentary Affairs Minister, NS7, who live here
44:36This is the Grefg of Border Roads, two officers of the army and the ITVB
44:49The leader of opposition, they are taking a chance to take a book of General Narabhani
44:56They are telling the incident that our people are going to fall
45:02No, they don't know anything about them, they don't know about the border
45:06That's why they are saying
45:16We are at the line of actual control, very close to the line of actual control
45:20And these are the braves of the Border Road Organisation who are making roads here
45:27Once upon a time, as Parliamentary Affairs Minister Kiran Rijiju was telling me
45:31That roads were not being made in the border area in the previous government
45:35Because there was apprehension that the adversary could use them
45:39That was the thinking earlier
45:40Now the thinking is, make roads wherever they are needed
45:45Right till the very end
45:47Or if I may, the beginning, the vibrant villages
45:51The first villages close to the LAC
45:55And these are those braves with the war cry of Bharat Mata ki Chai
46:02They are building those roads for vehicles to move
46:05Cameraman, with cameraman Sanjay Kumar
46:09At the line of actual control in Arunachal Pradesh
46:12With the braves of the Border Road Organisation, Gaurav Savant for India today
46:16Bharat Mata ki Chai
46:19Bharat Mata ki Chai
46:21Bharat Mata ki Chai
46:22Blast小消防�
46:23Br照
46:23Fr To
46:23To
46:23To
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