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Une explosion meurtrière à Nashville met en lumière l'étrange histoire du "peuple lézard", qui dure depuis des décennies, des marécages de Caroline du Sud aux recoins les plus sombres d'Internet.
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00:00Sous-titrage MFP.
00:30Sous-titrage MFP.
01:00And when Granger left, it was the worst storm Vancouver Island had had in years.
01:07But he said that it was going to be a chance of a lifetime to go to space.
01:11He told me the day was already chosen by the aliens, and they're here, they're here now.
01:21And of course, we're looking out the window trying to see through the clouds.
01:24And I'm 15, so, you know, I believe that he's going.
01:30And that was the last time anybody had seen him.
01:40I was the last person to ever see him.
01:46I was the last person to ever see him.
02:16Over the years, people have been asking me about what happened to Granger.
02:25I was hearing all of this stuff that was just sheer BS.
02:28It bothered me a bit because I literally was with the guy almost every day, right up until the end.
02:38I always tell people, there's so many different memories I have, and there's a few things that I felt a lot of people have missed.
02:51People don't just vanish off the face of this planet.
02:57There's billions of people that believe in a god, and there's absolutely zero evidence, yet billions of people believe in it.
03:06And then I believe in aliens, and I'm nuts.
03:11Go figure.
03:12I'm thoroughly convinced that we don't have proof of what happened to Granger.
03:21I remember driving into Duncan for one of the first times.
03:34It's very rugged.
03:35It's very remote.
03:36And it almost feels like you fall into it a little bit.
03:39I was trying to find a story.
03:40I was like a really green journalist, and I was hungry.
03:42When I came across Granger's story, there was talks of his mechanical genius, but also his obsession with UFO and aliens and other planets, and I was enthralled.
03:56From there, I just kind of became obsessed, and I started digging in the local archives.
04:00And then I think the big thing for me is I kept seeing this person commenting on this post, saying, you know, if you want the real story about Granger, someone needs to come talk to me.
04:10And once I tracked Robert down, and he started talking to me about Granger, and how he knew him, and how close they were, I was immediately hooked.
04:22When I finished the seventh grade, I didn't want to go to grade eight.
04:27So when I dropped out of school, I had nothing to do except hang out with my other dropout friends.
04:33And, you know, the streets of Duncan were the place to be.
04:37And I'm not saying that we did anything super criminal, but we were kind of going down that road.
04:44My dad was really concerned about me ending up either in prison or dead.
04:49And I just kind of remember Granger saying, I'll take him.
04:54I got projects going on the farm all the time.
04:56He can come and help me, and that'll keep him out of trouble.
05:01So eight o'clock every morning, he'd come and bang on my door and get me out of bed.
05:06And off we'd go.
05:07In the beginning, I thought my father was kind of punishing me by making me hang out at this farm and work for this guy for free.
05:21But it only took a few days, and I didn't want to leave.
05:24It came out that he owned a train.
05:29Okay, a train like we're thinking toy train.
05:32And then when they said, no, a real train.
05:35He found it down a gully that had derailed.
05:38And he was out there, ripped it apart piece by piece, bolt by bolt, scattered it throughout the yard.
05:44And then he would fix them all up and put it all back together.
05:50That's like awesome.
05:51You get to climb up there and stand on the train as it down the tracks.
05:55And you get to pull the horn, and that's like Disneyland.
06:00Granger was like the ultimate big brother.
06:02You know, what's our adventure today is Granger.
06:05And he always had a plan.
06:08I hate to admit it, but Granger was more intelligent than I was.
06:12And I thought I was the best mechanic that was ever born.
06:17Him and I got along great.
06:19I believe he had 28 cars that he had restored.
06:24He was only a year and a half younger than me.
06:27And I say, hey, Granger, let's go in one of your cars.
06:30Drive down the main drag there in Duncan, and I'd be waving like the queen.
06:39And then Granger was totally into dynamite.
06:42Every once in a while, kaboom, like that.
06:46Well, Granger made his own cannons.
06:48This guy was a brain.
06:51He had the brain where he could look inside stuff and build it.
06:56Just like right inside here, just like nothing, eh?
07:00I don't know.
07:01It was just the way Granger was.
07:03It was kind of like, you know, what they say that when you're a genius, you're right on the borderline of nuts.
07:08We were at an air show watching a couple of World War II planes flew over, and there was one of them had the shark teeth painted on it.
07:21Oh, he says, I want one of those.
07:23And I said, well, how do you buy one of those?
07:25He says, we'll make one.
07:27And he built a plane basically from scratch.
07:32And I felt special when he gave me a paintbrush, and I got to paint the first shark tooth.
07:39Just one tooth.
07:40But, you know, he still, he made me feel like I was a part of that.
07:44Robert was the first person to hang along with Granger and would come over to the property and hang out.
07:55To be honest, at first I thought it was strange.
07:56I was like, why is a grown man, like, hanging out with teenagers?
08:00And I think a lot of it was that, you know, Granger dropped out in grade eight, just like Robert.
08:04And I think being a dropout and not having much to do, it'd be really easy to want to go hang out and see what Granger was up to.
08:11There was a bit of a mythology starting around Granger.
08:14He was kind of quietly the talk of the town.
08:16Like, who is this guy who's just doing these incredible, incredible feats of mechanical wonders?
08:23Our neighborhood, we called him the Gentle Giant.
08:26That was his nickname.
08:28But Granger didn't quite fit in with the group.
08:31He kind of went off by himself, and he'd say, I need a project.
08:34I need a project to be out of place, say.
08:39He liked to be alone because people got in the way.
08:42You know, he was more interested in doing his thing.
08:46And when you're as smart as he is, you're kind of, you've got this eccentric type aura around you.
08:53Like when he says, I want to paint my truck.
08:55And he had these paint cans.
08:59And it was pink, and we kind of went, pink?
09:03Of course, I'm 15.
09:05I thought it was funny.
09:07But it was Granger.
09:08Like, nobody would think twice.
09:09They'd see a paint truck and go, oh, what the, oh, that's Granger.
09:13We expect that out of Granger.
09:16He just had a different type of fun.
09:19We were at the farm.
09:37Out of the blue, he kind of stopped what he was doing.
09:39And he said, oh, I had the craziest dream last night.
09:42And of course, I'm thinking, oh, it's a dream about girls.
09:45If he's telling me, it's got to be a dream about girls.
09:48But he said, I was visited by aliens.
09:51And of course, I'm like, oh, cool.
09:54The phenomenon of unidentified flying objects.
09:58To some, these UFOs will be miracles.
10:01To others, real but unexplainable.
10:03Whatever the government may think about them,
10:05unidentified flying objects seem to be popular with the people.
10:09Columbia Pictures reports that its film, Close Encounters of a Third Kind,
10:12has grossed $39 million in three weeks.
10:16People walking out of the theater are glancing upward.
10:20We grew up in the age of, oh, the aliens that landed,
10:24and, you know, anti-gravity shit and all that.
10:26And Granger studied UFOs from when he was a kid.
10:33Granger had a whole bunch of UFO magazines
10:35and all these alien books here.
10:38And he did a lot of reading on it.
10:40They were taking off to the moon then,
10:46and that's probably what sparked his interest in outer space.
10:51During that time, in popular culture,
10:54films about space aliens, UFOs were exploding.
10:58You have Close Encounters of the Third Kind,
11:00Star Wars, Star Trek, E.T.,
11:03Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
11:04Come on!
11:05And so all of this drives people to want to believe a bit more.
11:15And whenever you bring up Duncan and UFOs,
11:18there's folklore and mythology around it within the town.
11:21Where we live in Duncan, when it was dark, it was dark.
11:27And it's one of the few places where you could look up at the sky
11:30and actually see the strip of the Milky Way.
11:34And I've heard stories about UFO sightings.
11:37And it goes back from even before I was born.
11:40But it's not just anywhere in the skies over Duncan.
11:44It's usually over Mount Pervot.
11:48There was a time I was at a drive-in.
11:51Of course, we're watching the movie,
11:53and now all of a sudden people in the drive-in are honking their horns.
11:56And we looked up, and there were some lights going across the sky.
12:00Really kind of crazy things,
12:02like they're zipping, like, different directions.
12:04Zip! Stop! Zip! Stop! Zip! Stop! Zip! Stop!
12:09It's strange, eh?
12:13Of course, we had no explanation for it.
12:16And nobody knew, and it was just a huge sting.
12:18It was in the paper the next day.
12:20And as far as we're concerned, it's UFO, right?
12:22And I witnessed that firsthand.
12:25And that was over Mount Pervot.
12:26It was all happening over Mount Pervot.
12:28So that one was seen for miles and miles and miles around.
12:34Now you know that the answer to the ultimate question of life,
12:44the universe and everything, is what we do.
12:48All we need to do now...
12:50I was with Granger.
13:02We were going back and forth,
13:04and we were talking about other dimensions.
13:07He was at one of the metal recycling places,
13:10metal dumps in town,
13:12and that's when he spotted the radar dishes.
13:16And he says, this is going to be the next project.
13:23So he went and got these dishes,
13:25and they're like 18 feet in diameter,
13:27so they were big dishes.
13:28And he set one up on a cradle.
13:35Somebody went, hey, what are you building?
13:37A spaceship?
13:39Ding!
13:41He put the two dishes together,
13:44welded them,
13:46and he made a spaceship.
13:48And that was his getaway,
13:50because he still lived in his parents' house.
13:51He had built a spaceship.
13:55It was a UFO, difficult UFO.
13:58It was as big as this room,
13:59and then he had couches you could sit in.
14:02Granger hung out there with Robert,
14:05and that would make him happy.
14:12We'd go out there on the weekends,
14:14and we'd, you know, party all weekend,
14:16and there was just one day.
14:19He said, I had another dream.
14:20And I wasn't expecting the aliens again.
14:26And he said, they came and visited me.
14:29I'm telling you, I could feel their energy.
14:32I could smell their vinegary odor.
14:36And I'm kind of giggling about it,
14:37because how do you take that seriously, right?
14:41And he said, but it was so vivid.
14:43It's like it really happened.
14:47I said, what did they look like?
14:49And he described them as just being very slender,
14:51like really stick-tight people.
14:55They didn't open their mouths,
14:56but they were able to communicate with him telepathically.
14:59And he says, this time they told me that they wanted me to go to their planet.
15:06It's a 42-month journey.
15:07They're going to come and get me,
15:09and it's going to be during a storm.
15:16He asked them why,
15:17and they said, they want me to come to their planet and see their people and talk about Earth and explain some of the things that I do.
15:37And I said, well, why would they pick you?
15:39Why wouldn't they pick, like, Carl Sagan or Stephen Hawking?
15:44And he said, because Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawking can tell you all day long on a blackboard how to build things.
15:50He says, I actually build things, and that's why they chose me.
15:54So he said, it's perfect.
15:58I'll be the first human in history to ever do this.
16:02He says, I'll get to go to places where no other human will ever get to go.
16:06At this point, you know, I was already smoking pot.
16:20Is that on the record?
16:22Oh, I guess it's legal now, so I can say.
16:24So I said, you know, maybe we just, we smoked a little too much pot last night.
16:32Ranger was sort of becoming more distant in a way.
16:36Because I think he was trying some acid, LSD or whatever, so he was becoming a bit different.
16:44But everybody was doing it then, you know.
16:51I already did acid, and the people around here couldn't understand him about UFOs, and nobody.
16:57Ranger, you know, shut up, we're tired of this kind of crap, eh?
17:02He was saying, I've got to have another project.
17:05All the time.
17:08Maybe this taking off in space was another project.
17:11It just got to a point where these dreams were reoccurring every night, every night, every night, and then they would give him more details, more details, more details.
17:25And finally he came and said, you know what, this is almost getting scary, because it's becoming real.
17:34This is going to happen.
17:35I said, well, you don't want to go now, or, and he goes, it's a chance of a lifetime, I have to go, right?
17:46Like, I'm not going to turn this down.
17:48During that time, Granger gets a will and probate together, which is, like, very bizarre for a 32-year-old.
17:56And the strangest thing about it is that he crossed out the word death and wrote departure.
18:00The day was already chosen by the aliens, November 29th, and Granger said, this is going to be like the storm of the century.
18:14And when it happened, the Times colonist out of Victoria, which is a newspaper in Victoria, wrote it down as the storm of the century.
18:36It was about five o'clock.
18:39Granger came to our house, said goodbye to my family.
18:42He was super happy, you know, I'm going, today's the day, it's all happening.
18:47Gave me a hug and said, you know, this is it.
18:51So I asked him, I said, can I go with you?
18:55And my dad, joking about it, said, yeah, take him.
18:58He's a pain in my ass, you know, take him, take him, go ahead, you know, you got my permission,
19:02because dad never believed it in the first place.
19:05And Granger said, I can't.
19:08And I said, why?
19:12He said, you weren't invited.
19:17No, no, no.
19:20Then he left.
19:21Then he left.
19:21Then he left.
19:26And now he left.
19:57...assured a 42-month interstellar voyage to explore the vast universe, then return.
20:08I am leaving behind all my possessions to use as I will no longer will require the use of any.
20:16Please use the instructions in my will as a guide to help Lovegranger.
20:27That was the last day I saw him. That's the last day anyone saw him.
20:32When I got the news that Granger disappeared, I was living in an apartment in Vancouver, so poor dad phoned the police.
21:02And mom was in Hawaii, and that was hard on her.
21:08It was a shock to the whole family, to me especially, because we were very close.
21:15I was a reporter at the local newspaper here in Victoria.
21:25I learned that Granger had vanished.
21:27And when I went into the background, there was a very intriguing element, of course, with regard to the UFOs and Granger meeting aliens.
21:37It was a very sort of strange thing, because there's that, there's this short little note, but the details of his disappearance were really not widely known.
21:45But I was in touch with the police law over the years, so I went up and looked at the police report.
21:54This is the first entry.
21:55Another entry.
22:08December 3rd, 1980, another person last saw Granger talking to someone in Bob's Grill, talked of the upcoming space trip, would not divulge where set to take place.
22:20That same day, police checked Mount Prevost area for vehicle, unable to get up due to snow.
22:25That was their focus of investigation, trying to find his little Datsun, flew in a fixed wing and searched area, negative.
22:34Air patrol made near Mount Prevost, also negative.
22:37Checked motor vehicle branches, all negative regarding vehicle.
22:42So there's a lot of questions, a lot of questions raised.
22:47The police hit a dead end, you know, they had no leads, and so they're like, well, we need to find the truck.
22:52Like, that's mentioned over and over, like, how come we have not seen this truck?
22:55Everyone knows Granger drives a pink truck, but there's not a shred of evidence of where he went.
23:02So it very quickly becomes a cold case.
23:10I heard all kinds of things, like, oh, your friend, he was crazy right from the get-go.
23:16Might as well stop looking because now it's a body search.
23:19We got several stages here.
23:22We got disbelief, belief, and that part in the middle.
23:27And what he wrote, I will be away for 42 months.
23:31Now I'm starting to say maybe there was something to this, you know?
23:39That time was particularly devastating for his parents.
23:44Granger was very close with his mother.
23:47It was heartbreaking.
23:47The note said that he would be back in 42 months, so it made my mother kind of hopeful and sad at the same time,
23:57because maybe he's still going to come back.
24:02Wait and see, you know?
24:04I was still working for the Coast Guard at that time,
24:26and I went out onto the deck of the boat and sat out there, gazing up into the air, waiting for Granger to come.
24:38That was how much I respected what Granger said.
24:43When he said he was going to do something, he was definitely going to do it.
24:47And I wanted to be outside watching him when he came back.
24:56People asked me, oh, are you excited?
24:59Granger's coming back.
25:00And I said, no, he's not.
25:02He won't be there.
25:02And they went, what do you mean?
25:04He said 42 months.
25:06But I knew that I wasn't going to see him again.
25:11Just a few days before he left, he told me that the 42-month journey would be his travel time.
25:20So he's only going to age 42 months.
25:22Granger explained to me, their planet is on the other side of our galaxy.
25:28It's over 100,000 light years away.
25:31Now, the only way to do that in 42 months is to fold space.
25:34Now, we're talking 1980s.
25:36I'd never, ever, ever heard about folding space.
25:39They fold space, and we travel between their planets on that side, our planets on this side.
25:45That's a 42-month round trip back to Earth.
25:49And I said, so it's only 42 months.
25:51And he said, yeah, but we're still 100,000 light years away.
25:56So I will be 42 months older, and you'll be long dead and gone.
26:02Your kids will be long dead and gone.
26:05Your grandkids will be long dead and gone.
26:08100,000 years will have passed on Earth.
26:14Granger visited me in Vancouver maybe a week or two before he left that note.
26:19He asked, could he stay in the living room?
26:23And then I asked my roommates, and they said no, because it'd be too crowded or whatever.
26:27But I thought, you know, if he'd stayed there for three or four nights or whatever until Mom came back from Hawaii,
26:33and, you know, maybe everything would have gone as normal.
26:38I knew he was having a hard time.
26:44In fact, he actually had a personal ad running in the paper.
26:47Man 22, discreet, shy, very lonely, owns an interesting museum, et cetera, likes shows, outings, travel, et cetera,
26:59wishes genuine companion partnership of unattached girl, 18 to 25, right, Granger Taylor.
27:05He had no clue what he was doing.
27:08He didn't know what he was doing.
27:09He really, really didn't.
27:11He knew he needed a girlfriend and like that, but he didn't know what to do next.
27:16I mean, here's a guy who predominantly hangs out with, you know, teenagers, and he's a grown man.
27:21Like, I don't think he had a lot of intimacy in his life.
27:23Like, I've never heard anyone mention that he had, you know, a woman in his life that was really important
27:28or someone else, you know, a significant other.
27:31He was also very smart.
27:32Like, he was so far beyond mechanically what local people could do
27:36that he probably didn't have anyone to really talk to about it.
27:39And maybe the more he started to think about other planets, other places,
27:45that becomes exciting.
27:46That becomes, well, maybe I could connect somewhere else.
27:51I did go and see Mrs. Taylor quite a few times after Granger left,
27:58and we sat down at the kitchen table and talked.
28:02You know, I tried to explain to her what he had said to me,
28:05and she said, well, Granger's not a liar.
28:07So if he says he's coming back in 42 space months, however long that takes us,
28:14you know, he's coming back.
28:16And she never let go of that because she loved her children.
28:21Dearly, dearly, they were her world.
28:25His mom.
28:27Strong, strong relationship.
28:29Mom and Dad kept the front door open for Granger after he left that note.
28:47They did leave the porch light on, too, for Granger.
28:51In case he did come home.
28:53Six years later,
29:22they said they found a crater up on the mountain.
29:26and, uh, in this crater, there were pieces of a truck.
29:41Municipal work crews are working in an area on Mount Provote,
29:44and they find something startling.
29:46There's a huge crater, lots of metal fragments, there's a tire rim, 60 feet up in the air, and a tree.
29:55The police show up, they start canvassing the area, and quickly realize, yeah, this is a massive explosion.
30:00I drove up the mountain and examined the vehicle, we examined the site, and on what was left of the truck, there's a serial number, and it was the serial number of Granger's vehicle.
30:21When Granger left, my father and I had been blasting a bunch of stumps, and there was a case of powder left over, and I determined that he had taken the case of powder with him when he went up the mountain.
30:40There were holes in the ground, the truck was sitting on, where the powder had exploded, so that's what made me decide that's what he had done.
30:59I knew that Granger was gone.
31:09It was a great loss.
31:15It struck me very strange that it wasn't until 1985, five years since Granger's disappearance, that the police report mentions that some dynamite was missing.
31:26Their investigation from 1981 to 1985, nothing.
31:32And then in 1985, we got to some dynamite missing, 86, they find a car destroyed, oh, let's link these two together.
31:41But it's hard to draw a conclusion from that.
31:45There's nothing there to confirm that Granger was blown up with the car.
31:49Going through the site, the biggest piece of evidence that the police end up finding are some bone fragments.
31:59And there was no DNA testing then.
32:02The pathologist could declare it was a human bone, but not that they were Grangers.
32:05But despite that, it's that blast site and all that circumstantial evidence in the eyes of the coroner and the police.
32:12They were like, well, this is now a closed case.
32:14This is not a missing person anymore.
32:16Granger died in that blast.
32:20For a lot of people, that's the end of the Granger story.
32:24For a lot of people, it's not.
32:25It just raises more questions.
32:30The whole story behind the investigation is fishy.
32:34That he went up on the mountain in this storm and brought dynamite with him.
32:40Therefore, Granger committed suicide.
32:44As if a genius is going to put dynamite under his truck and blow himself up.
32:50The guy was a genius and he was an expert with dynamite.
32:53He didn't make mistakes.
32:56Robert Keller.
32:58I got to trust the man.
32:59He was with him near those final days.
33:02Nah, I don't see Granger doing that.
33:05I don't see himself setting himself up like that and doing that.
33:09The human bone fragments, even the coroner, said it was inconclusive.
33:15Inconclusive, inconclusive, inconclusive.
33:17Everything was inconclusive.
33:19I don't know about you, but to me, inconclusive means we don't know.
33:24RCMP is supposed to be the best in the world.
33:28The Canadian equivalent to your FBI.
33:31How can you close a case that's inconclusive?
33:34It doesn't work that way.
33:35In this case, it's regrettable that there wasn't more of an investigation done.
33:48The hard facts aren't there.
33:50I presume suicide.
33:53Who knows?
33:55Did he leave to meet aliens?
33:58Who knows?
33:59Was it something else?
34:00We don't know.
34:02There's all sorts of very intriguing aspects that are totally, totally unanswered in this case.
34:09One of the things that's always confused me, this BS story about the truck up on the mountain being Granger's, but yet nothing was consistent with Granger's truck.
34:22Here's where the bullshit starts.
34:32There was a serial number off a truck from the blast site.
34:36But, but, but, the pickup they found out there was blue.
34:45That was Granger's truck.
34:47His truck was pink.
34:48He didn't have a blue truck.
34:51He had a pink truck.
34:52I literally painted it.
34:53I know it was pink.
34:55That was the truck that he backed out of my driveway out that last day.
35:02And then, that VIN number was a partial VIN number.
35:05It wasn't a complete VIN number.
35:08To say that partial VIN number is consistent with Granger's truck, there could be a hundred thousand trucks that that was also consistent with.
35:18Plus, there was a license plate found.
35:21Nobody talks about that because the license plate didn't match Granger.
35:25So the license plate, we're going to discard that.
35:27They found a wheel up in the tree from the explosion.
35:30It was a mag wheel.
35:32Granger didn't have mags on his truck.
35:34You know, I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but something's wrong with that picture.
35:39You know, what are you guys hiding?
35:41You know, there is a member of the family that had connections with the police.
35:50And this, of course, is just my opinion, but I believe that they did what they had to do to close the case just to give Mrs. Taylor peace of mind because her health wasn't great.
36:01And after six years, they wanted to kind of ease her mind because she loved her kids.
36:07She loved her kids dearly.
36:08And she would have never given up on Granger.
36:11She would have went to her grave waiting and hoping.
36:15There are people out there who think that might not be Granger's vehicle that was found?
36:22No.
36:23It was his pickup and it was Granger that was there.
36:29No.
36:30That's total fabrication.
36:33He's...
36:35I don't believe everything he says.
36:45There's a lot of theories that are going around, but you have to look at the facts.
36:53You know, certainties.
36:54You can't trust memories because it gets skewed, especially with time.
36:58And the police report constantly refers to a blue Datsun pickup truck.
37:03The truck was probably registered in that color, but look at what the police report says about this explosion.
37:10It was massive.
37:11There was hardly any of the truck left.
37:12Like, the only parts that survived were, like, the engine block.
37:15It would have been conceivable that that pink paint just burned away.
37:19And I'm sure the family wanted closure, but whether someone would force that or manufacture something to get there, it's interesting.
37:28And it's interesting to me for one reason only, is that I do know that in January of 1986,
37:34two months before the blast site is located, that Granger's parents filed to have him declared dead so they could access his will.
37:42The timing of that is, I mean, yeah, it's a little strange, but, um...
37:48Was there collusion?
37:50Yeah, it's possible.
37:51One family member and the RCMP helped to fabricate the story.
37:55Well, they needed to close up that situation so the family could rest and all that legal stuff had to be all finalized.
38:04So if it was done, it was done for the right reasons for his mom and dad.
38:09Did your family ever have, like, a funeral or a memorial after the truck was found and some of...
38:15I don't know, we never did, because there was still hope that he might come back.
38:21And Mom never did get over it.
38:25All I've ever said, provide proof.
38:29Prove to me that that was Granger's truck.
38:31Show me one piece of pink paint.
38:34Show me the bones.
38:35Where is all of that stuff?
38:37They've lost it.
38:39What happened to the bones?
38:40Why don't the RCMP still have them?
38:42Why weren't they ever DNA tested even later on?
38:45It's like, well, things get lost, especially after 30, 40 years.
38:48So is it acceptable?
38:49No, but it happens.
38:50And so that's a big contentious point and why a lot of people won't let the Granger story go.
38:56People want to go a little further down the rabbit hole.
39:08Well, we're in the clouds, so we must be really close.
39:12Yeah, I've been coming up this mountain ever since I was, like, old enough to walk.
39:17My brothers and I used to hike up to the top all the time.
39:20Just a little ways down here is where they said they found his truck.
39:38So this is the spot just in here.
39:42It's all overgrown now, but this was the spot where they claimed that they found the truck
39:47and there was supposed to be a crater in the ground just back in here.
39:52And a few years went by.
39:54We came out here and we just found a small little ditch, but there was no truck parts left on it.
40:01But they claimed they had cleaned everything up and that's the reason why we didn't find any parts.
40:06But I'm still saying it wasn't Granger's truck.
40:09I'm not in denial. It's been almost 40 years. I mean, I'm not in denial.
40:22I just want to know. I'm like everybody else. I want to know what happened to Granger.
40:27I have to believe he went to space. I still believe he went to space.
40:31And nobody, not even the RCMP, can tell me different unless they provide me proof.
40:42I go back and forth over the years of like what I think actually happened to Granger,
40:47but it's starting to not really matter so much.
40:52Like to me, it's the why.
40:55If you think about all the possibilities of what happened to Granger,
40:58whether he was of sound mind or not to do it on purpose or by accident,
41:02you know, he could have been having some sort of mental health crisis or depressive episodes.
41:07I just don't know where his head was at.
41:09And I think no one knows.
41:10And that's the enigma of all of this because we don't have the truth.
41:13We are talking about this man as in the past.
41:19That's wrong.
41:21That's wrong.
41:23Granger is still here.
41:26Yeah.
41:27Granger is still here.
41:32A lot of different reasons.
41:34People he knew, things he made.
41:37He left a huge legacy.
41:38Granger restored so many things.
41:43A lot of them are in the forest museum.
41:48His cars, the locomotive.
41:51It's got his own room where it's sitting.
41:53It's beautiful.
41:57I think a lot of people want to believe in a way that Granger did meet aliens
42:03because grief can be a really hard thing to deal with.
42:10If Granger is in space right now, he's definitely happy
42:14because he'll be doing the mechanics and he would have found his project.
42:18Who knows, he might have met an alien girl.
42:25Maybe he will come back, you know?
42:28You never know.
42:34There's so many different memories I have.
42:39And I've told people for years and years and years, you know,
42:43despite what they've heard about him, you know, the real him,
42:47that's a story in itself.
42:51I mean, if I was an alien and I needed to take somebody,
42:55Granger Taylor would have been the guy.
42:56If Granger's got some satellite dish on that spaceship and this is going out to him,
43:06I would have to say, I miss you, right?
43:09I miss you.
43:11I wish you were here.
43:15And I hope you're having fun.
43:17Because that's what he said, right?
43:19It was going to be a chance of a lifetime.
43:21So, you know, I'm happy for him and I hope he's enjoying his trip.
43:26And I'll miss him.
43:27And I'll miss him.
43:58So, let's see him?
44:00If we unconditionally get him along with a little bifuris,
44:04You know, you won't be doing the same thing as to the planet you're willing to survive.
44:07Yeah, he thinks he's resilience to all other families and seniors.
44:10And you know this thing?
44:12Probably hayat, doesn't tell you that much an fam.
44:14Yourorithm is saying there'sération, and he doesn't say nothing.
44:16You really aren't doing it.
44:19I will lose his life and he apa- Griffith.
44:21I'm having fun.
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