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00:00We are now seeing protests break out in Washington, D.C. over President Trump's push to make the streets of our Capitol safe again.
00:09Protesters in D.C.'s Northwest Corridor confronted law enforcement agents conducting a vehicle checkpoint.
00:15They screamed things like, get off our streets and go home fascists.
00:20Not sure why they're not screaming, get off our streets to the criminals, but that's a different story.
00:24All of this backlash comes after the president's vow to make D.C. safe again, and the White House says agents and the National Guard will be patrolling the streets 24-7.
00:35Hello, everyone. This is Outnumbered. I'm Emily Campagno here with my co-host, Harris Faulkner.
00:40And also joining us today, Molly Line, Fox News correspondent.
00:44Marie Harf, Fox News contributor and former State Department spokesperson under President Obama.
00:49And Paul Morrow, Fox News contributor, attorney and retired NYPD inspector.
00:56Now, activist groups are taking issue with President Trump's initiative to properly charge minors in D.C.
01:03responsible for committing violent crimes like robbery and carjacking, up almost 600 percent.
01:09The group Free D.C. Project posted this message earlier this month, claiming that, quote,
01:15a 14-year-old is a child, full stop. We reject Trump's threats and the criminalization of our youth.
01:22But earlier this year, police picked up one 14-year-old girl connected to two armed carjackings within six hours.
01:30Meanwhile, D.C. officials say one man has been charged with a felony assault after he hurled a Subway sandwich at a border agent.
01:38Watch.
01:51Now we're learning that man allegedly walked up to those agents
02:07and called them fascists before the alleged assault.
02:11Attorney General Pam Bondi says that the suspect was actually a DOJ employee and has been promptly fired.
02:18And U.S. Attorney for Washington, Janine Pirro, sharing this message after the incident.
02:24The president's message to the criminals was, if you spit, we hit.
02:29Well, we didn't quite do that the other night when an individual went up to one of the federal law enforcement officers
02:37and started jumping up and down, screaming at him, berating him, yelling at him.
02:43And then he took a Subway sandwich about this big and took it and threw it at the officer.
02:49He thought it was funny.
02:50Well, he doesn't think it's funny today because we charged him with a felony,
02:53assault on a police officer.
02:55And we're going to back the police to the hilt.
02:58So there, stick your Subway sandwich somewhere else.
03:04I love that.
03:07Paul, so much to unpack here.
03:09But I have to just start out with this because what I found so patently offensive about that video,
03:13the provocation of a border agent there from the luxury of someone who knows that that person will exhibit restraint,
03:21upholding the caliber and the professionalism of that role,
03:25and yet then runs like a coward in his pink top when he threw the Subway sandwich because he couldn't take it.
03:31He could dish it, but he couldn't take it.
03:33So now he's going to take it after the felony assault conviction.
03:35Yeah, and he's wearing, you know, the cops are wearing 20, 30 pounds of stuff,
03:39and he still couldn't outrun them.
03:40So, look, this is one of those things where you have to say to yourself,
03:44we've all had those moments where you wake up the next day and say,
03:46I did what last night?
03:47And I think you got about the worst-case example here because this guy's life just went sideways,
03:52and good, because it does go, it does track to the deep state stuff that you've heard about.
03:57That guy is DOJ, and he thought that that was permissible?
04:01That tells you all you need to know.
04:02Now, to expand the story real quick, look, I think of this as all of this going on in D.C. right now
04:07is a microcosm of the civil war going on inside the Democratic Party
04:10because, as we've seen, a lot of media entities now are saying,
04:14we're aware of the fact that we've got a crime problem here.
04:17Of course, because they work there.
04:18So, you know, it hits home, and so they're copping to it now.
04:21But you have...
04:22So they're behind the scenes.
04:23They like all of this.
04:24But you have to remember that there's going to be the real diehards
04:28who are going to be out there fighting, throwing sandwiches, protesting, screaming, and yelling.
04:32So this kind of captures all of that.
04:33Donald Trump is well within his legal rights to do what he's doing in D.C.
04:37And he promised that he was going to be cleaning up our cities.
04:40Yeah, he did.
04:40So that was part of it.
04:41So he started that.
04:42What they really feared, this is what the hardliners really fear, that it's going to work.
04:46Because if it demonstrably works, it's exportable potentially to other cities.
04:50And so the nutjob archipelago of all of our other blue cities are sitting there saying,
04:55oh, God, is he going to do that to us?
04:57Here's the thing, though, we have to remember.
04:58It is a very limiting principle.
05:00D.C. is already federalized.
05:02The other cities are not.
05:03And so we have to recognize that Donald Trump's power, even as president,
05:07is limited when it comes to the federal government doing this kind of thing in cities outside of D.C.
05:12Harris, I want to focus for a moment on what I feel has so clearly been emphasized
05:18by U.S. Attorney Pirro and A.G. Pambani and the president,
05:21which is our concern right now is the criminal.
05:24We are protecting the citizens.
05:26And I'm not quite sure why the protesters seem intent on protecting the criminals and the full-stop child.
05:34Well, these children are doing horrifically violent adult crimes.
05:38And so they will be prosecuted as such.
05:41When did it get skewed?
05:42And how is that defensible as we continue moving forward?
05:44Well, look, the voices of skewing have some complicit players that have megaphones.
05:51We call them the legacy in liberal media.
05:53So, I mean, there is an opportunity for the left to continue to utilize,
05:57even though the ratings may be down in most cases,
05:59there are still voices and preaching to their own choirs.
06:01And so people are more likely to believe that if they're from the left
06:04and really do feel like they hate Trump and hate everybody who supports him.
06:09That still exists in this country.
06:11That divide has not gone away.
06:13But I do think it's interesting that people don't give President Trump enough credit
06:17to have meant what he said, because he clearly is walking out what he preached.
06:22And what he said was, I promise you, he said this to me as a candidate,
06:27I promise you what I will do is I will reach across the aisle,
06:30particularly in Democrat-led cities, and I want to help them clean this up.
06:34This was just hours before he was shot, thankfully survived the first assassination attempt on his life in Butler, PA.
06:43We were at Mar-a-Lago. Watch this.
06:46The fact is that Democrat-run cities are doing very poorly.
06:51They're doing very poorly.
06:52So what do you, as president, do to step in?
06:54And in every case, without virtually exception, the top 25 worst cities, worst crime cities are Democrats.
07:01It's very sad.
07:02I want to rebuild our cities.
07:04One of the things I want to do is rebuild our cities.
07:06I'm going to have to work with Democrats, and I expect that they'd want to do that.
07:09And I look forward to doing that.
07:11We have to rebuild our cities.
07:12Our cities are falling down.
07:13Our cities are an embarrassment.
07:15And we have to be very, very careful on crime.
07:18Isn't that exactly what he's saying now?
07:20His last word was crime.
07:24Like, nothing he is doing right now is inconsistent with what he promised the majority of people in this country that he would do.
07:31And they voted for him.
07:33They weren't all MAGA.
07:36They weren't even all independents, like on the fence or something.
07:39No, some of these people were Democrats.
07:40Many of them were people of color living in these cities that said, and they're saying it now, we need something different.
07:47Muriel Bowser, the mayor of D.C., just yesterday.
07:50Well, look, I mean, I'll work with the federal government.
07:52They didn't have the resources or the planning.
07:54I don't know what the deficit was, but this is where we are now.
07:58So what were Democrats doing that we couldn't dig themselves or dig ourselves as a community out of a hole?
08:05I mean, this is not the D.C. I remember as a kid when my dad was stationed at the Pentagon.
08:10But it is what we have now.
08:11And we have a president who's willing to lean in and fix it.
08:15Yeah. When we talk about the messaging, we've seen all of these interviews.
08:19Some of them are on Fox News.
08:20Some of them are on some of these other entities all across the country of people being interviewed in Washington,
08:24talking about how impacted they have been by the crime.
08:28You know, you can talk about some of the statistics that have come out and some of the liberal media where they push to say crime is not as big of an issue or it's trending in the right direction.
08:36But the lived experience that we're hearing from people on the street has been very different.
08:40There's also the president has the right to do this right now.
08:44And we know that it's constitutionally fair and that, in theory, Congress could act within less than the next 30 days to ensure that it can continue.
08:52And we'll see if there's a major change in Washington.
08:54I think right now, as you just saw with the with Judge Jeanine Pirro, who's now, of course, the U.S. attorney there, it's about messaging.
09:04It's not about the ham sandwich.
09:05People are going to laugh about that and make jokes about let's indict the thrower and not the sandwich.
09:09But she's taking this very seriously and saying it's not just about the crime and the chaos being reined in,
09:14but about the agents that have been put out there on the street to do their work, not being taken advantage of, not being assaulted and violently assaulted and saying that they're going to stand up to that as well.
09:26And, Marie, I wanted to ask you about how Paul left off, which is that, granted, D.C. is in a different scenario than the other cities here in the United States for obvious reasons.
09:35But within the protective pocket, let's make a football analogy, so if the president was a pocket passer, right, he has this pocket protected right now.
09:42And during this time, their aims are to dismantle and eradicate those laws that have been enacted by the very left-leaning D.C. City Council, the Youth Rehabilitation Act,
09:54the Age of Criminality being 18, the sealing records, et cetera, so that they can begin enforcing law and order and see that it will hold, it will stick.
10:02So my point is, in the protection of D.C., the model will be, this is how law and order can be enforced at the local and state level.
10:11So will that model then translate and be accepted by all of these other Democrat cities that need help, too?
10:16Well, question number one is, a lot of the cities with the most crime in the country are led by Republicans.
10:21This is not just a Democratic city problem.
10:23So the president doesn't talk about those, but there are a lot around the country in that list of murders, violent crimes that are Republican-led.
10:31Number two, I've lived in Washington since 2006, in the Washington, D.C. area and in Washington itself.
10:38There's, of course, we should have fewer carjackings, fewer crime.
10:42I believe that.
10:43You don't put a federal agent checkpoint on 14th Street in Washington, D.C., which is what happened last night.
10:49That is not the locus of crime in Washington, D.C.
10:52That's where, you know, senators and congresspeople and people that work in the White House go to dinner.
10:58They put a federal checkpoint on 14th Street and stopped every car.
11:03That is not actually addressing the crime problem in Washington.
11:07So while I hope they make Washington safer, I hope they make all of these places safer.
11:11That's not how to do it.
11:12That's performative.
11:13And the third point I would make, as a Washingtonian for many decades, is that it is very rich to say we are going to charge the sandwich thrower with a felony.
11:24When I was there on January 6th and all of those people that assaulted police officers got pardoned, not just the nonviolent ones, not just the ones that went into the Capitol, everyone, including the ones that went after police officers got pardoned.
11:37So don't tell me we care, that this administration cares about protecting police officers when they did not care about those on January 6th.
11:44Respectfully, can we just stay for one time?
11:46But they got pardoned.
11:46No, those were police officers, Emily.
11:49I want to talk about D.C. for a second.
11:51But that was in D.C.
11:52That was in D.C.
11:53Those were D.C. police officers.
11:54Can I just start with the fact-checking on what you said?
11:56Those were D.C. police officers that got assaulted.
11:57So the top 10 cities, the top 10 cities for murder in 2025, St. Louis, Missouri.
12:04Who's leading it?
12:05Where's cities like Memphis?
12:06Hold on, hold on.
12:08Memphis is second.
12:09You said a vast majority, a lot of.
12:12I said a lot of.
12:13Okay, top 10.
12:14Okay.
12:15St. Louis, Memphis.
12:16Memphis.
12:16One for your column.
12:18Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, Little Rock.
12:22Little Rock, right.
12:23Two for your column.
12:25Two.
12:25Two out of the 10.
12:26Who's the mayor of New Orleans?
12:27Okay, listen.
12:30Oakland.
12:30That one that was in first class headed to France.
12:32Oakland.
12:33That got corruption charges.
12:35Cleveland.
12:35Tacoma and Kansas City.
12:38So how many of those are red states?
12:39Ohio's a red state.
12:40The majority of the city.
12:42You were talking about the cities, right?
12:43You were talking about the cities.
12:44I'm just listening to what you said.
12:45Harris, I said cities that are red.
12:48Some of those are.
12:49And many, almost all of those are in states that are led by Republicans.
12:52But who's in charge of the city?
12:54The city runs their criminal justice system.
12:57No, no.
12:57Not entirely.
12:58Furthermore, that's the duty.
12:58The district attorney is the one who makes the call as to what's going to be prosecuted.
13:03The president was right.
13:04The majority of those cities.
13:06You're missing a major point.
13:07You're using murder as the metric.
13:09Let's go to New York City, where murders are down, all right?
13:13And that's despite the criminal justice reforms.
13:15What we're talking about here is the quality of life of the people who live here.
13:20The city has fallen to ruin.
13:21And that stuff just doesn't get in.
13:23D.C. has a six times higher homicide rate than New York City.
13:27It's Emily's segment.
13:28I'm going to ask her for grace to give an example.
13:30Is that OK?
13:31OK.
13:32A gunman has opened fire.
13:33And this is just recently reported not too long ago.
13:36It was under Biden's watch.
13:38A gunman opened fire outside of a restaurant in an upscale area of Washington, D.C., about a mile from the White House.
13:45Do you remember that night?
13:46Because you were living there.
13:48And diners at outside tables ran for cover.
13:50Look, this didn't just happen yesterday.
13:53This has been going on.
13:54And it's been a tick-tock, which is why during the time that the president was running as a candidate, he was saying, look, there are problems that have been building.
14:03So this is a good example because it didn't just happen yesterday.
14:06It happened on Biden's watch.
14:08And I think it's worth bringing these things up because these are real felt crimes.
14:14And the majority of those cities are Democrat-led.
14:17I read you the top ten.
14:18I think you had three.
14:20Hey, everyone.
14:21I'm Emily Campagno.
14:22Catch me and my co-hosts Harris Faulkner and Kayleigh McEnany on Outnumbered every weekday at 12 p.m. Eastern.
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