Israel's Smotrich approves settlement in bid to 'bury' idea of Palestinian state

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00:00Joining us now is General Secretary of the Palestinian National Initiative, Mustafa Banguti.

00:04Thanks very much for being with us on the programme today.

00:07Let's talk first of all about the relaunching of this plan in the last hour or so by Bezalel Smotrich,

00:13even calling it, didn't he, on his statement burying the idea of a Palestinian state.

00:19It's highly provocative, isn't it?

00:23It's not just provocative, it is going to be implemented.

00:26And Smotrich, the most important thing in what Smotrich said is that everything he's doing,

00:33he has coordinated with the Prime Minister of Israel, Netanyahu, and with the American side,

00:38the American administration, which he says is supporting their acts of annexation of Palestinian land,

00:45illegal annexation, their acts of violation of international law.

00:49And this is happening exactly at the time after Netanyahu has declared his support

00:55to the idea of greater Israel, which would mean annexing not only all Palestinian land,

01:01but also Jordan, Lebanon, big parts of Syria, one third of Saudi Arabia, half of Iraq, half of Egypt,

01:09and so on and so forth.

01:11What is something we didn't see since Hitler, since the fascism in Germany?

01:18Why do you say it will definitely happen?

01:20Because at this stage, do you not think it's just him trying to put pressure on Benjamin Netanyahu

01:25within the unit that they have formed together?

01:31No, no, no, he's not pressuring Netanyahu, he is coordinating with Netanyahu.

01:35He is in agreement with Netanyahu.

01:38They are doing the process of total annexation of Palestinian land,

01:41which they consider is Jewish only.

01:43And what he is doing is very dangerous, and it is supported by Netanyahu.

01:50This is the Israeli real policy, and it will not stop unless international community

01:54and other countries who claim they respect international law

01:58will start imposing sanctions on Israel.

02:01Do you not think that he will be stopped effectively by that international community?

02:05Because the international community will not just allow Benjamin Netanyahu to do this.

02:09No, they won't, unless they impose sanctions on Netanyahu.

02:15What we see here is exactly what happened during the Second World War,

02:19when Hitler started annexing countries one after the other and lands after the other.

02:24Unless sanctions are immediately imposed on Israel, Israel will proceed.

02:28And that is the responsibility of countries like France, Spain, Italy, United States, and the UK.

02:35If they say they respect international law, they should immediately impose sanctions on Israel

02:40to restrain this terrible fascist tendency.

02:44Otherwise, they should tell us frankly and openly that international law doesn't exist anymore.

02:49Do you think there is still a way forward then for a two-state solution?

02:54Only if sanctions are imposed on Israel immediately,

02:59and if there is a change of the Israeli government.

03:01This government is a fascist one, and they don't hide themselves.

03:06They call themselves fascists, and they proceed with fascist policies.

03:11And look at the genocide they have committed in Gaza,

03:14and now they are preparing for even a bigger genocide.

03:17They are conducting ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people.

03:21They are conducting starvation of the Palestinian people.

03:24And this is happening in front of the whole world.

03:27Yes, there has to be, the world has to stop them.

03:30But that can happen not with statements or declarations.

03:35It can happen only if sanctions are imposed on Israel.

03:38Don't forget that on Russia, 11,000 sanctions were imposed in two months.

03:43How many sanctions were imposed on Israel?

03:46Almost none.

03:47And that's the problem.

03:48The problem is that Israel is allowed to be above the law, above international law,

03:52and impunitive to international law.

03:54And that's why Netanyahu, Ansu-Motrich, and the other fascists have gone so far.

03:59Let me ask you as well about the other main story we've been covering today.

04:02This is 100 NGOs and other groups coming together to sign a joint letter

04:06saying the people of Gaza are being left with no food, no medicine, no protection

04:10due to Israeli legislation and the fact that Israel is using some of its current legislation

04:15to prevent them from going in to help the people of Gaza.

04:18That's another drastic issue because Israel is preventing humanitarian aid from reaching

04:26the people of Gaza.

04:28All that is allowed in the best case scenario is 50 to 70 trucks, while Gaza needs 1,000 humanitarian

04:35trucks every day.

04:36There are 24,000 trucks full with humanitarian aid and flour and food waiting at the borders,

04:45and Israel is not allowing them.

04:47And even those that enter Gaza, the 50 trucks or less, they get stolen by gangs that collaborate

04:54and cooperate with the Israeli army.

04:57It's a reality.

04:58Everybody sees that.

04:59So practically, 2.2 million people are starving to death.

05:03Already, 227 people died of starvation, including 103 children.

05:10And this will go on unless immediate pressure is established and put on Israel to allow humanitarian

05:18aid to get to the people in Gaza who are starving.

05:21And hopefully the line will...

05:26We lost you there for a brief moment.

05:28Let me just try and ask you one last question.

05:31Benjamin Netanyahu said earlier this week, there's been a lot of anger over this as well,

05:34that he was attached to the vision of a greater Israel, as he put it, a term understood to

05:39mean territory straddling other Arab countries.

05:42A lot of anger over that as well.

05:43Absolutely, because Netanyahu finally exposed his real intentions, the greater Israel.

05:54To explain what that means to your viewers, greater Israel means not only annexing illegally

06:00all Palestinian land, but also the land of Jordan, all of Lebanon, one third of Syria,

06:08no less than one third of Saudi Arabia, half of Iraq and half of Egypt.

06:12That's greater Israel.

06:14And he says that he sticks to that vision and he feels that he's on a historical and spiritual

06:20mission to achieve it.

06:22What we see here is Masonic fascist government conducting terrible policies and practically

06:30going into conflict with everybody in the region.

06:34This is not the time for what they call Abraham Accords for normalization.

06:40They are declaring war, not only in Palestinians that they are starving and committing genocide

06:45against, but against all Arab people, against the whole region and actually against humanity.

06:52Mustafa Barghouti, thanks so much for being with us on the program today.

06:55Mustafa Barghouti, General Secretary of the Palestinian National Initiative.

06:59Thanks.

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