00:00Further discussion? Mr. LaMawfer, you're recognized.
00:03So it gets lumped in as wildlife managers, generally environmental groups and government
00:09entities. Hunters still, if they had the choice, would be using lead ammunition much more often
00:14than is allowed these days. This all, for me, harkens back all the way to 2004 as a California
00:20legislator when the first big attempt, at least in my time frame, was the condor legislation,
00:29which would set aside one-fourth of the geography of California under, you remember the Pedro
00:35bill, right? Yep. So he sat right behind me in the state legislatures. I said, oh, hey,
00:41Pedro, man, how long has this become a statewide full ban? Oh, no, no, we're just doing this
00:47condor region here. Well, it didn't take that many years until it's a statewide ban on lead.
00:54And here we are. And so I appreciate Mr. Whitman's approach to at least try to have a little more
01:00of a debate, a little more light shed on what is really happening with lead use and where it's
01:06appropriate, or maybe it isn't appropriate. But hunters in general have been dissatisfied with it.
01:12Steel shot is more expensive, by and large, and it has a higher wear factor on gun barrels.
01:19And it does act different in shooting and shooting sport. And so its predictability is a whole lot
01:28different than what lead is. And so, you know, we're just have more and more choices taken away.
01:33And we know the Democrats are much more interested in lead just being banned in 100%. And the term
01:39voluntary gets used on this. It isn't voluntary. People have to respond to when the government makes
01:45yet another law, and another mandate that you can no longer have a certain product or use
01:51a certain product. And in general, we see that if you can't completely ban the guns, then you
01:56make it harder to buy the ammunition where you have to do a background check in California
02:01to buy ammo. And you have to be licensed to do that and give thumbprints and the whole work.
02:07So it's, it's really mission creep a little bit at a time. And we experience it in my home
02:14state, much more so. So that's why frequently I'm talking about to the general public nationally,
02:21don't do what we do in California, if you like, freedoms. So it's, it's one thing after another,
02:27I appreciate Mr. Whitman trying to carry this debate and with this legislation so that we continue
02:33to exercise choices, not forced volunteerism, as, as we know the left really wants a complete
02:42ban first on lead, then hunting activity in general, due to the, the strength that the
02:49animal rights groups have with them. So if Mr. Whitman has any more comments, I would yield
02:54time to him.
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