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On Sunday, Israeli PM Netanyahu held a press briefing as the IDF prepares to occupy Gaza.
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00:00I'm glad you came here because I'd like to take the opportunity to puncture the lies and tell the truth.
00:08The truth is that Hamas still has thousands of armed terrorists in Gaza.
00:13It vows to repeat the savagery of the October 7th massacre and to do so again and again and again.
00:21It openly professes its goal to destroy the state of Israel.
00:25It subjugates Gazans. It steals their food. It shoots them when they try to move to safe zones.
00:32And I think it's instructive that now many Gazans are fighting back.
00:37They're begging us. They're begging the world. Free us. Free us and free Gaza from Hamas.
00:45No nation can accept a genocidal terrorist organization, an organization committed to its annihilation,
00:52a stone's throw from its citizens.
00:55Our goal is not to occupy Gaza. Our goal is to free Gaza. Free it from Hamas terrorists.
01:02The war can end tomorrow if Hamas lays down its arms and releases all the remaining hostages.
01:10Gaza will be demilitarized. Israel will have overriding security responsibility.
01:16A security zone will be established on Gaza's border with Israel to prevent future terrorist incursions.
01:23A civilian administration will be established in Gaza that will seek to live in peace with Israel.
01:29That's our plan for the day after Hamas. And let me summarize it.
01:34Five principles for concluding the war.
01:36One, Hamas disarmed. Second, all hostages freed. Third, Gaza demilitarized.
01:42Fourth, Israel has overriding security control. And five, non-Israeli peaceful civilian administration.
01:50By that I mean a civilian administration that doesn't educate its children for terror,
01:55doesn't pay terrorists, and doesn't launch terrorist attacks against Israel.
02:00That's what we want to see in Gaza. So it's neither Hamas nor the PA.
02:05That's our plan. Given Hamas's refusal to lay down its arms, Israel has no choice but to finish the job and complete the defeat of Hamas.
02:15Now, we've done a great deal. We have about 70 to 75 percent of Gaza under Israeli control, military control.
02:23But we have two remaining strongholds. Okay?
02:28These are Gaza City and the central camps in the Muasi. That's roughly, schematically presented here, but it's fairly accurate.
02:36Last Thursday, Israel's cabinet, Israel's security cabinet, instructed the IDF to dismantle the two remaining Hamas strongholds in Gaza City and the central camps.
02:46Contrary to false claims, this is the best way to end the war and the best way to end it speedily.
02:53We will do so by first enabling the civilian population to safely leave the combat areas to designated safe zones.
03:01In these safe zones, they'll be given ample food, water and medical care, as we've done before.
03:07And again, contrary to false claims, our policy throughout the war has been to prevent a humanitarian crisis.
03:14While Hamas's policy has been to create it. Since the beginning of the war, Israel has let in close to two million tons of aid.
03:24I know of no other army that enabled, has enabled such aid to go to the civilian population in enemy territory.
03:33Now, if we had a starvation policy, no one in Gaza would have survived after two years of war.
03:39But our policy has been the exact opposite. We let in, as I said, almost two million tons of aid and sent millions of text messages, millions of phone calls to Gazans to get out of harm's way.
03:52Yet in the last few months, Hamas has violently looted the aid trucks meant to get to Palestinian civilians.
03:59They deliberately created a shortage of supply. And the UN consistently refused until recently to distribute the thousands of trucks that we led into Gaza through the Kerem Shalom crossing.
04:12So our problems, we've had tons of uncollected food rotting on the Gaza side of the border, because the UN was and still is unwilling to deliver all of it.
04:25Here are the tons and tons and tons of humanitarian aid that Israel led in to the Gazan side of the Kerem Shalom crossing, just sitting there, because it's not distributed.
04:37So now we're going to go around this obstacle. We are going around it by doing three things.
04:43One, can I show this, please? Okay. Designating safe corridors for humanitarian aid distribution.
04:51No, that's showing the problem, not showing the solution. But here it is.
04:56First, designating rather safe corridors for aid distribution. You can go, you can drive trucks there, and you'll be safe.
05:04Second, increasing the number of safe distribution points managed by the Gazan Humanitarian Foundations.
05:11And three, airdrops. That's airdrops done by the Israeli Air Force, and we're inviting others to join us.
05:18The result has been a humanitarian surge, which we're coordinating with President Trump and his team, and hundreds of trucks have gone in in recent days.
05:27This is preventing hunger. But it's not prevented the global campaign of lies that we have all witnessed.
05:36So in Gaza, despite Hamas's obstacles, two million people are now getting access to humanitarian aid.
05:42But I'll tell you who isn't. The only ones that are being deliberately starved in Gaza are our hostages.
05:52This is Zaviatar David. Look at his hand, at his arm. He's being deliberately starved by these Hamas monsters.
06:02And look at the Hamas captor. Look at the difference. He's eating, and he's eating well.
06:11The purpose of this news conference is to puncture the lies and spread the truth. But that distortion has been propelled around the earth.
06:23Almost the way that the Jewish people were maligned in the Middle Ages. Every massacre of the Jewish people was preceded by massive vilification.
06:36We were said to be spreading vermin to Christian societies. We were said to be poisoning the wells.
06:46We were said to slaughter Christian children for their blood. And as these lies spread around the globe, they were followed by horrific, horrific massacres, programs, displacements,
06:59finally culminating in the worst massacre of them all, the Holocaust. Today, the Jewish state is being maligned in a similar way.
07:09Everything that I told you could be verified easily, but it hasn't. And the international press has bought hook, line and sinker.
07:17Hamas statistics, Hamas claims, Hamas forgeries, and Hamas photographs. For example, these three children.
07:24The first one is Osama al-Rakoub. He is in Italy getting treatment because Israel got him out. That's what he looks like today.
07:33He has a genetic disease that damages the lungs and digestive system. It makes it hard to absorb nutrients and gain weight.
07:44Okay? So Israel facilitated Osama's travel to Italy, where he got the medical aid that transformed his position.
07:55The second one is Abdul-Kader al-Fayyumi. He suffered from a genetic neurological disorder, spinal muscular atrophy,
08:04a degenerative condition that causes muscle weakness, wasting weakness and severe weight loss unrelated to nutrition.
08:11This was the real cause of his frail appearance, not starvation. In fact, he was treated in Israel in 2018.
08:17Doesn't help because it's a congenital disease and it defies, well, defies most treatment at least.
08:24The third one is the most celebrated one. This is a New York Times cover photo. It's on the front page.
08:34Of Muhammad Zakaria Ayub and his mother. Muhammad Zakaria Ayub is suffering from a genetic illness which you're familiar with. It's called cerebral palsy.
08:46His mother is well fed and his brother is healthy. I'm looking right now into the possibility of a governmental suit against the New York Times because this is outrageous.
08:56Of course, the correction was postage size. I don't know where it was buried. But this is outrageous. These are the three most celebrated photos. And they're all fake.
09:06It's the kind of malignant lies that were leveled at the Jewish people in the Middle Ages. We won't suffer. We won't allow it to go unchallenged. And this is the purpose of this press conference.
09:19I hope that you open your eyes to a simple fact. Hamas lies. Now you can ask me any question you want.
09:31Thank you, Prime Minister. Could you give us, please, a timeline when you expect to conclude the new expansion of the new offensive?
09:40And if you can give us a few more details about how you're going to provide about this humanitarian surge and how GHF is going to be involved in this. Thank you.
09:49Well, the timeline that we set for the action is fairly quickly. I mean, we want to, first of all, enable safe zones to be established,
10:01facilities to be brought to, so the civilian population in Gaza City can move out. As they moved out in Rafah, by the way. You remember in Rafah?
10:11There were 1.4 million people. People said they can't, you know, they have nowhere to go and they're not going to move out.
10:19It took us, I think, about eight days or six days to move them and they all moved. There were practically no civilian casualties because they all left.
10:28And they went to the Muasi area that I showed you before on the map.
10:32We think we can achieve a similar result that safeguards the civilian population.
10:39At the same time, enables us to go at the last stronghold, the most important stronghold of Hamas, which we haven't done so up to the war.
10:47I mean, we've been there, but we haven't taken it as a goal to dismantle the Hamas stronghold there. We do now.
10:54I don't want to talk about exact timetables, but we're talking in terms of fairly short timetable because we want to bring the war to an end.
11:03This is how we bring the war to an end. As far as the surge is concerned, we're talking to the U.S. about additional measures, but we haven't waited.
11:10Because what we're doing, as I said, is designate safe corridors, allow and expand the GHF distribution points.
11:18And they're trying to bring in more resources, hope to recruit some international organizations.
11:23Maybe, God willing, the U.N., if they ever decide to actually do something for the Palestinian people that doesn't go through Hamas.
11:32And third, increase the airdrops. The airdrops are important, but they're not the most important thing.
11:38The most important thing is ground routes that bring aid, a surge of aid to the Palestinian population, as far as we can, without letting Hamas loot it.
11:50Prime Minister, two questions. Firstly, why is Israel not allowing foreign journalists into Gaza to report independently?
12:03And secondly, President Trump has said there is real starvation in Gaza. Do you disagree?
12:11Yeah. On the first question, in fact, we have decided, and I've ordered, directed, the military to bring in foreign journalists, more foreign journalists, a lot.
12:22There's a problem of assuring security, but I think it can be done in a way that is responsible and careful to preserve your own safety.
12:30So the directive has been since, when is it? Two days ago. For what you're telling me, it hasn't yet been implemented, but it should be.
12:39It should be. Because I think you should see it. And one of the things you're going to see is precisely our efforts to bring in Gazans, to bring in, rather, food to Gaza.
12:48You'll see the trucks that have been entered Gaza and are still waiting to be distributed.
12:53You'll see Gazans who are fighting Hamas. You know, we haven't seen it since the beginning of the war.
13:00You know, and that's a reflection of the fact that they know that we're approaching the end stage.
13:07And these people are, you know, risking their lives and their families. But they say, we can't take it anymore. And they fight back.
13:16And the other thing you'll see is physical destruction. And the physical destruction is not because Israel is destroying structures with people in there.
13:25That's not what's happening. Israel, in fact, is clearing the population, as in Rafah. But the Hamas terrorists who may stay in those areas,
13:34booby trap just about every single building. Not every single building, but a lot of them. And every road, and every street, and every junction, every intersection.
13:43So one of the things that we do is we place, basically, old APC, armored personnel carriers, with tons of explosives.
13:52And we detonate them. And they set off all the booby traps. That's why you see the destruction.
13:57And we do similar things in the tunnels. The tunnels, these terror tunnels, we, you know, put TNT in them.
14:04And we detonate that after people have left. But they're under buildings. So the buildings collapsed. That's why you see destruction.
14:11You see destruction not because we go after civilian populated areas, but in fact, areas that have been cleared of civilians and are still rife with terrorists.
14:22And that's how we've been able to reduce, actually, the civilian casualties and increase, of course, the terrorist casualties.
14:30I very much appreciate President Trump's support through this entire seven-front war.
14:38His magnificent cooperation in the battle to stop the existential threat from Iran.
14:46His support throughout. And his support now. He says two things.
14:50He says all 20 hostages have to be released. And he says Hamas should not be there.
14:56And I think that he, like me, he recognized the fact that there have been deprivations in Gaza caused by Hamas.
15:05Hamas has been the cause of that. And what we have to do is overcome it.
15:09So we're working together to overcome it.
15:11Thank you, Prime Minister.
15:14Is Israel working proceeding in the belief, in the understanding that it can and will recover all 20 hostages alive militarily?
15:23Or is it proceeding in the belief or understanding that conditions of their captivity, Hamas strategy, will make that impossible?
15:30Look, my goal is to get all of the 20 out alive and also all the ones who are not alive.
15:37In the beginning of the war, we were told by a very senior commander.
15:44He said, look, we have to get used to the idea that we're not going to see even one of them alive.
15:50And I disagreed. I said, we'll get most and possibly all of them if we apply judiciously both military pressure and political, diplomatic pressure.
16:04So far, out of 255 hostages, we got 205 out, of which 148 are alive. 148 are alive.
16:12We have 20 living ones left in the Hamas captivity and 30 who are not alive, as I said before.
16:20If we don't do anything, we're not going to get them out.
16:24The option of just doing a war of attrition from defensive positions has not proved itself.
16:32And I think it will just, it won't get them out, but I think it will draw us into a protracted conflict that doesn't bring the war to an end.
16:40The move that I'm talking about, I think, has the possibility of getting them out.
16:46We're talking about how to, I don't want to go into details, but how to get the remaining hostages alive as we close in on Hamas.
16:59And there are various ways that I think creative ways that this can be done, but again, I won't go into that now.
17:05CNN.
17:07Thank you, Prime Minister. Two questions, please.
17:09You've seen, you've just shown the horrific photo of Evyatar David, who's kept hostage in Gaza.
17:16We know that the hostages days are numbered, so how will prolonging the war bring them home?
17:23And second question, you stated that Gaza would not be, would be passed to civilian governance that is not Hamas and not the Palestinian Authority.
17:31Can you specifically identify who this civilian governance would be?
17:35Do you have any concrete entities or individuals in mind?
17:38And is there a timeline for establishing this administration?
17:42Yeah, well, I don't want to prolong the war. I want to end the war.
17:45And I think the other suggestions would have prolonged it.
17:47We may have gotten a dripping, maybe a dripping of hostages, even though Hamas showed no willingness to do that.
17:53And then they just go on and on and on and we'd have this endless.
17:57Unless you are willing to just say, Israel, capitulate, you know, go out.
18:01And even then, I don't think we'll get all the hostages.
18:04And if we capitulate, it means that Hamas will rearm, regroup, and carry out all the threats that it openly professes every day, by the way.
18:11Every day, they say.
18:12We're going to do the October 7th massacre again and again.
18:15And we're going to destroy the state of Israel.
18:17You can't leave them there.
18:19You know, so we're not going to do that.
18:21So my goal is not to prolong the war.
18:23My goal is to end the war.
18:25And I think that prolonging the war means that many of them could be starved to death.
18:29That's exactly the point.
18:30I don't want that.
18:31As far as the specific partners for the civil governance of Hamas, we're actually, I think the five principles are generally widely accepted.
18:42And it's instructive that some of the Arab countries, quite a few of them actually, said that Hamas has to be disarmed.
18:49I think this is the starting point.
18:51And look at what is happening in Lebanon as a result of our action.
18:55The Lebanese government, the new Lebanese government, is talking about disarming Hezbollah.
19:02You know, who would have believed it?
19:04Well, some of us did.
19:05I did.
19:06And that's changing the Middle East, as I promised to do on the second day of the war.
19:10I think in this case, if we succeed in this effort to basically end the war by defeating Hamas, his remaining strongholds, there are several candidates.
19:25There are several candidates that we're talking about, several constructs.
19:31And it's a transitional period.
19:33It's a transitional authority.
19:35It's going to be there because we don't want to, contrary to, I said we want a security belt, but right next to our border, but we don't want to stay in Gaza.
19:45In Gaza, that's not our purpose, at least not my purpose.
19:49And I openly say, including to those who disagree with me, and there are some who do.
19:54But I think that our goal is to make sure that Hamas isn't there and that what replaces Hamas does not educate for terrorism, pay for terrorism, launch terrorism, but is willing to live in peace.
20:04There are candidates.
20:05I don't want to spoil the chances of succeeding here because I think they're real.
20:12But they're real, providing we finish the job.
20:14See, no one's going to go in there if we don't finish the job.
20:17We can talk about the day after, until eternity.
20:21No one's going to go in there unless we finish Hamas.
20:24And we're able to finish Hamas.
20:26And we will finish Hamas.
20:31Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister.
20:35So, the German Chancellor has once again defended his decision not to send weapons to Israel, which can be used in Gaza.
20:41He said a friendship can and must withstand that.
20:44From your perspective, what has changed in this relationship?
20:48Look, I respect Friedrich Merz.
20:54I think he's been a good friend of Israel.
20:57But I think he's buckled under.
20:59He's buckled under the pressure of false TV reports, the pressure, internal pressure from various groups.
21:07And I can say this, and I don't want to talk about him specifically, but I want to say this.
21:14Look, maybe some choose to forget October 7th.
21:17We will not forget what happened.
21:19And we will do whatever it takes to defend our country and defend our people, defend our future.
21:25And we will win the war, with or without the support of others.
21:29But I think that, I think there's an issue here.
21:35And the issue is many leaders tell me, look, we know you're right, but we can't stand, you know, in the face of the public opinion in our country.
21:43Especially European leaders, they tell me that over and over again.
21:48And I say, that is your problem.
21:51It is not our problem.
21:54It is not our problem.
21:56You know?
21:57In Munich, everybody celebrated Munich.
22:01Everybody celebrated the Capitulation in Munich, the Munich Peace Conference, peace in our time.
22:07Okay?
22:08And everybody lambasted Churchill and opposed it.
22:11So what?
22:12The difference now is maybe they thought then that there was a real chance for peace by succumbing to these, to the Nazis.
22:20But I don't believe anybody seriously thinks that now.
22:23And we're facing neo-Nazis.
22:26You know, Chancellor Mertz's predecessor was here.
22:32Okay?
22:33And on the first or second day of the war, he was there on the first days of the war.
22:38And he told me, he said to me, they're exactly like the Nazis.
22:43And they are.
22:44And we're not going to leave.
22:46We're not going to leave the Nazi, the remainder of the Nazi army, you know, in the equivalent of Berlin.
22:53You know?
22:54Don't go into Berlin and don't finish off the Nazi army, the German army.
22:59Of course not.
23:00I mean, that's what people are telling us to do.
23:02And I'm not going to do it.
23:03And the Israeli people are not going to do it.
23:05We're going to do it.
23:06And we have enough criticism within.
23:08But the majority of the people, if you really check it, the majority of the people say,
23:13that's a result we can't afford if we want to live here.
23:16So we're going to do what we need to do.
23:18And I hope that Chancellor Mertz changes his policy.
23:22And you know when he'll change his policy?
23:24For sure.
23:25When we win.
23:27Thank you, Prime Minister.
23:28You talked about the seven front battle.
23:29There's an eighth front, the propaganda war, the information war.
23:44Is Israel winning or losing this war?
23:46And also, have you spoken with President Trump since the Security Cabinet approved this plan?
23:52If so, can you share some of the details of that conversation?
23:54If not, do you plan on speaking with him at some point soon?
23:59And is he planning to also come to Israel at some point?
24:02Well, I suggest you ask him that.
24:04But no, I haven't spoken to him since the next third day.
24:07And yes, I intend to speak to him very soon.
24:10You asked about, sorry, could you repeat the first part of the question?
24:14The first part was about the propaganda.
24:16Oh, the propaganda.
24:17Well, look, no, I think that we've not been winning it, to put it mildly.
24:23I think there are vast forces that are right against us.
24:26Among other things, the algorithms of the social network that are driving a lot of everything
24:32else, you know, and people who really know, and they're the foremost people in this field,
24:40in the world.
24:41They're telling me that about 60% of the responses on the social media are bots.
24:46They can categorically say they're bots.
24:48And they're bots that, you know, especially in America, you know, they want to attack the
24:56support that Israel has from the Republican side.
25:00So they describe how, you know, themselves as homespun Southerners, except they're riding
25:06from Asia somewhere, you know.
25:08That's a big issue.
25:10We have to contend with it.
25:12And we also have to stand up and tell the truth.
25:16Probably at greater frequency than we're doing now.
25:18That's exactly what I'm trying to do now.
25:20But again, if you want to win this war, end it speedily.
25:24End it speedily.
25:25Expose the lies as much as you can.
25:27End it speedily.
25:28And that's how you win the war.
25:30You win the war, the propaganda war, by winning the war and winning the peace.
25:34That's the simplest way to do it.
25:36And it's about time to do that.
25:38Sky News, UK.
25:40Last question, please.
25:42Last question.
25:43Thank you, Prime Minister.
25:45Given what the IPC says is the unfolding specter of famine in the Gaza Strip, would you accept
25:51that your 11-week blockade, complete blockade on Gaza, played a role in that?
25:56And also, given the killings that we have seen at the GHF aid sites, how will you guarantee
26:02that that kind of disaster will not happen when you have a million more people displaced?
26:08Well, number one, the problem that we had was trying to stop Hamas looting.
26:16There's no question there was Hamas looting.
26:18Everybody saw it.
26:19You could see Hamas terrorists taking over trucks and so on.
26:24We tried to do two things simultaneously.
26:26Stop the trucks and bring in the trucks through the GHF distribution points.
26:32Okay?
26:33It wasn't successful.
26:35And it wasn't successful, among other things, because Hamas interdicted also the GHF program,
26:40the distribution points.
26:42So, Hamas created this problem and it was directed against us.
26:47Immediately, we have a starvation policy, which is completely false.
26:50Any more than we have a genocide policy, which is equally false.
26:54We don't.
26:55Not this, not that.
26:56I don't know of a country that texts millions of messages to civilians to get out of harm's
27:03way, giving up the element of surprise or calling them individually on cell phones.
27:08Yet, Israel is accused of genocide.
27:09It's absurd.
27:10Or starvation policy.
27:11But there was a problem of deprivation.
27:14No question about it.
27:15And so, we had to solve it.
27:17And the way we solve it is the way I described it to you.
27:19And there are now not zero trucks, but at least in, I think last time I checked, hundreds
27:25of trucks that went into Gaza.
27:27That's alleviating the situation.
27:29Now we have to, we want to increase the number.
27:31The number of distribution sites.
27:33So there is not, basically, you answer this problem or you solve this problem by the law
27:40supply and demand.
27:41If you have a lot of supply.
27:43If you flood Gaza with food, which some of it will be filthered.
27:48There's no way to get around that.
27:50We'll be looted by Hamas.
27:52But you'll have, if enough food reaches the marketplace, so to speak, then you'll see a difference.
27:58And you know what the difference is?
28:00How do we know for sure there's a difference?
28:03Because we monitor, as any one of you could, the price of food in Gaza.
28:09It's plummeted.
28:10It's plummeted ever, ever since that we decided to take the, to do the humanitarian surge.
28:16And it'll plummet more if other countries join us.
28:20So I called on other countries to join in the airdrops.
28:22I actually called them to help persuade the UN to move those trucks.
28:26Because every truck that goes in brings down the price of food.
28:29That's what happens.
28:31And when you have no, no shortage like that, then you don't have also the crowding around distribution points.
28:38And by the way, a lot of the firing was done by Hamas, seeking to have response by our forces.
28:47And very often, they didn't.
28:48They held back.
28:49They stayed their fire.
28:50Even though their own lives were on the line.
28:52Yeah?
28:53We're done.
28:54Thank you, Prime Minister.
28:55We're done?
28:56Well, I couldn't resist that one.
29:01Matthew Doren from ABC Australia.
29:04Oh, okay.
29:05Matthew Doren from ABC Australia.
29:07No.
29:08You've seen countries such as the UK, Canada, France say that they will support Palestinian statehood in the next short while.
29:15You've described that as a reward for Hamas here.
29:18Other countries like Australia are also walking down this path.
29:21Not quite there yet.
29:22How much of this is a reward for Hamas?
29:24And how much of it is actually countries like those who have repeatedly said Israel does have a right to defend itself,
29:30but are now struggling to stomach what they're seeing you and your military doing in Gaza?
29:35Well, first of all, those who say that Israel has a right to defend itself are also saying, but don't exercise that right.
29:41When we do what any country would do faced with this genocidal terrorist organization that has performed the worst attack on Jews since the Holocaust,
29:49I think we're actually applying force judiciously.
29:52And they know it.
29:53They know what they would do if right next to Melbourne or right next to Sydney you had this horrific attacks.
30:02I think you would do it at least what we're doing.
30:04Probably, maybe not as efficiently and as precisely as we're doing it.
30:10We've lost quite a few soldiers in that effort.
30:14But that's the first thing.
30:17I think that the second thing you ask is Palestinian state.
30:21Well, the assumption, the prevailing assumption in this is that the problem that we have with the Palestinians is the absence of a Palestinian state.
30:31And if they were given a Palestinian state, they would stop the efforts to destroy the Jewish state.
30:38But the Palestinians were offered a state many times, including in the partition resolution, and they turned it down.
30:44They were offered statehood by my predecessors with lavish, lavish consensus.
30:50They turned it down.
30:52Because the Palestinians are not about creating a state, they're about destroying a state.
30:57That's why they opposed the Jewish national movement to create a state called Zionism.
31:02They opposed it before the inception of the Jewish state, and they've opposed it since.
31:07They've opposed it when they had the Judean Samaria, the West Bank, and Gaza in their home.
31:13They didn't say, let's start, let's create a state there.
31:15They didn't say that.
31:16Because, again, their goal is the destruction of a state.
31:20It defies imagination or understanding.
31:23How intelligent people around the world, okay?
31:26Including seasoned diplomats, government leaders, and respected journalists, fall for this absurdity.
31:35It's so easy to verify, you know?
31:38And look at the PA, okay?
31:40Look at the Palestinian national movement today is divided, okay?
31:44Divided between two forces, okay?
31:47The Palestinian Authority in Judea and Samaria, and Hamas in Gaza, okay?
31:52Hamas in Gaza had a de facto state.
31:55It had state.
31:56And it used it to launch a war of terror against Israel.
32:00Because their doctrine is that the destruction of Israel should proceed with forceful and direct military and terrorist moves.
32:08That's what they did on October 7th.
32:10And that's what they'll do again if we don't destroy them.
32:13The Palestinian Authority, on the other hand, says no.
32:16First, Israel has to be reduced to indefensible boundaries.
32:19You've got to get them out with the ICC, with the UN, with the Security Council resolutions.
32:24Drive them to indefensible boundaries.
32:26And then deliver the blow.
32:28Because Israel is too strong in its present configuration.
32:31These discussions are open.
32:33They're held.
32:34Anybody, you don't need Israeli intel for it.
32:36Believe it.
32:37Okay?
32:38You can just scour the web.
32:39You'll find it.
32:40Okay?
32:41So they have no difference about the goal.
32:43That's why the Palestinian children in Judea and Samaria and the Palestinian children,
32:50that is the Palestinian children under the PA, and the Palestinian children under Hamas,
32:55are educated with exactly the same textbooks.
32:58That's why the PA calls its public squares against mass killers of Jews.
33:03That's why they have pay for slay.
33:05The more Jews you murder, the more you get paid.
33:07Or your family gets paid.
33:09I mean, so that's the crux of the problem.
33:13The real reason that this conflict persists is not because of the absence of a Palestinian state,
33:19but the persistent Palestinian refusal to recognize a Jewish state in any boundary.
33:25Okay?
33:26Now, when you give them a Palestinian state,
33:29when they haven't abandoned the goal of destroying the Jewish state,
33:32all you're doing is you're bringing the next war closer.
33:37Again, Hamas had a state.
33:39You just brought the war closer.
33:41And if you did the same thing in Judea and Samaria,
33:43right above Tel Aviv, enveloping Jerusalem, some say cutting Jerusalem into two,
33:48that's all that's going to happen.
33:50You're going to have the radicals again take it over,
33:52Iran take it over,
33:54and start a state from improved boundaries,
33:56start a war with improved boundaries.
33:58That's not going to happen.
34:00I think the solution to this problem
34:02is that the Palestinians should have all the powers to govern themselves
34:05in the places where they live,
34:07and none of the powers to threaten Israel.
34:09They should obviously reform their whole education system.
34:12They should reform their whole historical outlook and say,
34:16all right, we accept that Israel is here to stay,
34:19not as a fact, as a physical or geographic fact,
34:22but as a fact of historical equity.
34:26You know, if they want to live here next to us,
34:29they have to stop seeking our destruction.
34:32And to give them an independent state with all the trimmings, okay,
34:36is to invite a future war and a certain war.
34:40And that's something that today,
34:42the Israeli public forcefully opposes.
34:44Before the war, by the way,
34:46it was about, you know, a third, two-thirds
34:50in the overall population,
34:52probably 60, 40, or even more, sorry,
34:56against in the Jewish population.
34:58But now it's changed more dramatically.
35:01I mean, we had a vote in the Knesset a few months ago
35:05about the possibility of, you know,
35:07having a Palestinian state.
35:09And the result was 99 to 9.
35:1399 to 9.
35:15That covers a very broad spectrum.
35:17And today, most of the Jewish public is committed,
35:23is against the Palestinian state for the simple reason
35:25that they know it won't bring peace,
35:27it'll bring war.
35:28To have European countries and Australia
35:32march into that,
35:34march into that rabbit hole,
35:36just like that.
35:37Fall right into it.
35:38And buy this canard
35:41is disappointing.
35:43And I think it's actually shameful.
35:45But it's not going to take,
35:47it's not going to change our position.
35:49Again, we will not commit national suicide
35:53to get a good op-ed.
35:57For two minutes.
35:59We won't do that.
36:02Thank you very much.
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