00:00Matthew Doren from ABC Australia, you've seen countries such as the UK, Canada, France say that they will support Palestinian statehood in the next short while.
00:13You've described that as a reward for Hamas here. Other countries like Australia are also walking down this path, not quite there yet.
00:20How much of this is a reward for Hamas and how much of it is actually countries like those who have repeatedly said Israel does have a right to defend itself
00:28but are now struggling to stomach what they're seeing you and your military doing in Gaza?
00:33Well, first of all, those who say that Israel has a right to defend itself are also saying, but don't exercise that right.
00:38When we do what any country would do faced with this genocidal terrorist organization that has performed the worst attack on Jews since the Holocaust,
00:47I think we're actually applying force judiciously and they know it.
00:51They know what they would do if they're right next to Melbourne or right next to Sydney, you had this horrific attacks.
00:58I think you would do it, at least what we're doing. Probably, maybe not as efficiently and as precisely as we're doing it.
01:08We've lost quite a few soldiers in that effort, but that's the first thing.
01:15I think that the second thing you ask is Palestinian state.
01:19Well, the assumption, the prevailing assumption in this is that the problem that we have with the Palestinians is the absence of a Palestinian state.
01:29And if they were given a Palestinian state, they would stop the efforts to destroy the Jewish state.
01:35But the Palestinians were offered a state many times, including in the partition resolution, and they turned it down.
01:42They were offered statehood by my predecessors. With lavish, lavish consensus, they turned it down.
01:49Because the Palestinians are not about creating a state, they're about destroying a state.
01:54That's why they opposed the Jewish national movement to create a state called Zionism.
02:00They opposed it before the inception of the Jewish state, and they've opposed it since.
02:04They've opposed it when they had the Judean Samaria, the West Bank, and Gaza in their home.
02:11They didn't say, let's start, let's create a state there. They didn't say that, because again, their goal is the destruction of a state.
02:18It defies imagination or understanding. How intelligent people around the world, including seasoned diplomats, government leaders, and respected journalists, fall for this absurdity.
02:33Because it's so easy to verify, you know? And look at the PA, okay? Look at the Palestinian national movement today is divided,
02:41okay? Divided between two forces, okay? The Palestinian Authority in Judea and Samaria, and Hamas in Gaza, okay?
02:50Hamas in Gaza had a de facto state. It had state. And it used it to launch a war of terror against Israel, because their doctrine,
02:59that is that the destruction of Israel should proceed with forceful and direct military and terrorist moves.
03:06That's what they did on October 7th. And that's what they'll do again if we don't destroy them.
03:11The Palestinian Authority, on the other hand, says, no. First, Israel has to be reduced to indefensible boundaries.
03:17You've got to get them out with the ICC, with the UN, with the Security Council resolutions.
03:22Drive them to indefensible boundaries. And then deliver the blow. Because Israel is too strong in its present configuration.
03:29These discussions are open. They're held. Anybody, you don't need Israeli intel for it. Believe it.
03:35Okay? You can just scour the web. You'll find it, okay? So they have no difference about the goal.
03:41That's why the Palestinian children in Judea and Samaria and the Palestinian children,
03:48that is the Palestinian children under the PA, and the Palestinian children under Hamas,
03:53are educated with exactly the same textbooks. That's why the PA calls its public squares against
03:59mass killers of Jews. That's why they have pay for slave. The more Jews you murder, the more you get paid.
04:05Or your family gets paid. I mean, so that's the crux of the problem. The real reason that this conflict
04:13persists is not because of the absence of a Palestinian state, but the persistent Palestinian
04:19refusal to recognize a Jewish state in any boundary. Okay? Now, when you give them a Palestinian state,
04:27when they haven't abandoned the goal of destroying the Jewish state, all you're doing is you're making,
04:33you're bringing the next war closer. Again, Hamas had a state. You just brought the war closer.
04:39And if you did the same thing in Judea and Samaria, right above Tel Aviv, enveloping Jerusalem, some say,
04:45cutting Jerusalem into two, that's all that's going to happen. You're going to have the radicals
04:49again take it over, Iran take it over, and start a state from improved boundaries, start a war with
04:55improved boundaries. That's not going to happen. I think the solution to this problem is that the
05:01Palestinians should have all the powers to govern themselves in the places where they live,
05:05and none of the powers to threaten Israel. They should obviously reform their whole education
05:10system. They should reform their whole historical outlook and say, all right, you know, we accept
05:16that Israel is here to stay, not as a fact, as a physical or geographic fact, but as a fact of historical
05:24equity. You know, if they want to live here next to us, they have to stop seeking our destruction.
05:30And to give them an independent state with all the trimmings, okay, is to invite a future war
05:37and a certain war. And that's something that today the Israeli public forcefully opposes. Before the war,
05:43by the way, it was about, you know, a third, two-thirds in the overall population, probably 60-40
05:52or even more, sorry, against in the Jewish population. But now it's changed more dramatically.
05:59I mean, we had a vote in the Knesset a few months ago about the possibility of, you know,
06:05having a Palestinian state. And the result was 99 to 9. 99 to 9. And that covers a very broad spectrum.
06:15And today, most of the Jewish public is committed, is against the Palestinian state for the simple
06:23reason that they know it won't bring peace, it'll bring war. To have European countries and Australia
06:30march into that, march into that rabbit hole, just like that, fall right into it. And buy this canard
06:39is disappointing. And I think it's actually shameful. But it's not going to take, it's not going to
06:46change our position. Again, we will not commit national suicide to get a good op-ed for two minutes.
Comments