00:00It goes back to actually what
00:28Andrew and Brock would say was about perspective
00:30And perception
00:31How the audience perceives it is much
00:34Different than the perspective of Lena
00:35But Lena is seeing it through a completely
00:38Filtered lens at any given
00:40Point in this as it goes on
00:41Could both of you
00:43All three of you whoever wants to speak about it
00:46Or you can all speak about it and this will be the last question
00:47Talk about perspective and perception
00:49In this movie because
00:52It is all about point of view
00:54But then it's also about as you were saying
00:56Dakota an internal point of view
00:57We get when she's looking up at the moon
00:59She has those flashbacks of those
01:02Moments that make
01:03Her think about where she is
01:05And that's a very specific choice
01:07If you all three can talk about perspective and perception
01:10And it's important here
01:11And then I'll let you go
01:12That's a big one
01:15I'll take perspective
01:17First
01:18Perspective was like the guiding light
01:21To a lot of like behavior
01:23And how we shot it
01:25And just like ultimately
01:27Like the direction of the film
01:29Because if one
01:30It was
01:30We kind of set up
01:31These set of rules
01:32And they weren't
01:32You know
01:33They're pretty clearly defined
01:34It's you know
01:35The audience
01:37Is Lena
01:38So everything that
01:39Lena sees
01:40The audience sees
01:41And everything that happens
01:42Outside of her purview
01:43Is
01:43We're in the dark
01:45You've been attracted
01:52And we even went as far as
01:56Like there were
01:57You know
01:57There was a scene that we shot
01:59Outside of the trailer
02:00Of like people who
02:00Ultimately the people
02:02Were like trying to help her out
02:03And we knew that we were like
02:06Cheating our rule a little bit
02:07But we were like
02:08They just might just have this
02:09Like nice little like
02:10Campy carpenter
02:11Like
02:12Moment of like
02:14Getting us out
02:15This was also in a phase
02:16Where we were like
02:16Is this
02:17Are we in this trailer too much
02:18Like do we need to get outside of it
02:19And then as soon as we shot it
02:21They were fantastic
02:22And I would kind of
02:23Wish they could have been in the film
02:24But it did not make sense
02:25For them to be
02:25Once we broke that perspective
02:27And put it into the film
02:28It was like
02:28Just no way
02:29Like we have to
02:30Why
02:30Why did we even do that
02:31Like we
02:32It has to be
02:33So grounded in our perspective
02:34And then like the thought of
02:35The moment of like
02:37Transitioning to another perspective
02:39Like we wanted that handoff
02:40And the way that that handoff is
02:42Is like
02:42Very specific to the film
02:44And then we're
02:44All of a sudden
02:45We're in another
02:46And then the world
02:47Starts opening up
02:47We're really like
02:48Throughout the entire time
02:50From beginning to end
02:51Like always revealing
02:53Always pulling back
02:54That layer
02:54We never really wanted
02:55To fully
02:56Lay it on you
02:58It was just kind of
02:59Always a layer coming off
03:01And then the world
03:01Starts getting bigger
03:02And then the onion's bigger
03:03And then you're pulling off
03:03Different kinds of
03:04Layers
03:05But yeah
03:07No it was just
03:07Perspective like
03:09Like ultimately
03:10Like Andy said
03:10It was like
03:11Kind of like
03:12The guiding light
03:13Of this film
03:13Logistically
03:14Who are you?
03:21I wish I could tell you
03:23What you want to hear
03:24I think too
03:25We knew
03:25Because of where
03:26You know
03:27Without saying anything
03:27Because of where
03:28The film goes
03:29We knew it was
03:31Really important
03:32To ground the world
03:33As firmly as possible
03:34So that when you get there
03:36It feels earned
03:37You know
03:38And I think for us
03:40Like because
03:41The grounding
03:43Of that perspective
03:43Was so important
03:44Because really
03:46At the heart of the movie
03:47I mean you have characters
03:48Who are asking these questions
03:49About the worlds
03:50They live in
03:50Right
03:51And I think that's why
03:52It was
03:52You know
03:54As the movie
03:55You know
03:56Kind of opens up
03:58And you start to get
03:58A little bit more
03:59You realize
04:00Again like
04:01You have to have
04:02That firm base
04:03For the reality of it
04:04So that everybody else
04:06Can be so confused
04:08And pull the audience
04:09Along with them
04:10So that you have
04:10Like you know
04:11Clive and Lena
04:13Can end up
04:14On the same footing
04:15Right
04:15Like you know
04:16It's not a
04:17It's not your kind of
04:18Traditional
04:18Captive-captor
04:20Relationship
04:22You keep her grounded
04:30And that's why
04:30People feel for her
04:31Even though she's
04:32In this extreme situation
04:34Yeah
04:35I think there's
04:36A lot
04:37You know
04:38We've talked about
04:39This story
04:40From the onset
04:41It has this
04:41Traditional
04:42Damsel distress structure
04:44But what I wanted
04:46To approach
04:47With Lena
04:47As far as her perspective
04:48Is I really dissected it
04:50To be reductive
04:50Into like three pieces
04:52Where when we meet her
04:53She's numbed out
04:55Like in her life
04:56Leading up
04:57Into the moment
04:58Of being captured
04:59She's going through
05:01So much
05:02That she doesn't know
05:02How to cope with
05:03She's just completely
05:04Withdrawn by like
05:05Drinking too much
05:06Which is some of
05:07What we see
05:07In the family photos
05:08She's just totally
05:09Dead inside
05:11I would say
05:11But I can't
05:19And then it's
05:20A breakdown
05:21Of vulnerability
05:22Okay I need to
05:23Embrace
05:24That it is okay
05:25To be sad
05:26And I need to
05:26Open back up
05:27I can't just
05:28Close off
05:29And then it's
05:29The strength
05:30From that
05:30So there
05:31It's showing strength
05:32I think in different
05:33Kinds of ways
05:34Where it's like
05:34I'm not going
05:35To take shit
05:36But being vulnerable
05:37And being strong
05:38Is a different
05:39Kind of version
05:40Of that
05:40And then just
05:42Watching the film
05:43As a whole
05:43I just love
05:44How it's
05:45The
05:46It kind of stands
05:47On building
05:47Perspective
05:48And anticipation
05:49Of something
05:50And then flipping
05:50That on its head
05:52With what we think
05:53Certain characters
05:54Are going to be
05:55Or what their
05:56Involvement is
05:57And then it being
05:57Something else
05:59The points
06:01That on its head
06:02Is an example
06:03I wet
06:05That it being
06:05Involvement is
06:05A very
06:07Partij
06:07Or
06:21Involvement is
06:22A very
06:22The point
06:23Involvement is
06:24A very
06:24God
06:25Does
06:25Come
06:25Involvement is
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