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Felger and Mazz revisit Chad Ryland's game winning kick that caused the Patriots to receive the third overall pick in the 2024 NFL Draft.
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00:00that chad rylan kick which came christmas eve yeah santa brought you a big plate of crap on
00:08your plate there you go oh for the culture though no we need these late season wins and let's keep
00:13building and let's do it for bill this is me doing the old jo move with my right hand under the table
00:18chad rylan bizarro mo lewis you a-hole christmas eve let me just tell the people what they just
00:25heard jim then you may go christmas eve 2023 patriots at the denver broncos week 16 chad rylan
00:3356 yard field goal with two seconds left to give the patriots a three-point win at the broncos to
00:41bring their record at the time to 4 and 11 they would lose their last two to finish 4 and 13
00:46tying with the washington commanders for the second worst record in the league
00:51and wouldn't you know that the patriots lost to the commanders during the year right so you would
01:01think because of the inverse of that you would be picking ahead of the commanders because you would
01:06have the reverse tiebreaker if you will you think yeah but they really go to its strength of schedule
01:12right right the victory yeah i think that that's what it is yeah strength of victory it was because
01:16of it there that's not their they don't consider head-to-head part of the tie-breaking formula when
01:22talking about the draft so because of whatever that tie-breaking formula was i think it's strength
01:28it's either strength of schedule or strength of victory yeah i think that's right washington
01:32ended up with the second pick you ended up with the third they ended up with jayden daniels you ended
01:36up with drake may you think that's as seismic as mo lewis murray yeah yeah it's going to trend that way
01:41i mean as of right now it's trending that way jayden daniels is greater than drake may drake may
01:46could stink jam daniels is already the real deal so we're in mo lewis daniels is to tom is to tom
01:51brady with drew bledsoe is to drake may huh no the other way oh i see what you know mo lewis caved in
01:58drew bledsoe's chest so he could have tom brady right chad ryland who missed like 18 kicks that night
02:03but decided to hit the game winner on christmas eve to ruin everyone's holiday makes the one kick to win
02:08the game to f everyone so we end up with drake may the lesser of the quarterbacks to drake to
02:13jayden daniels so understand what i'm saying chad ryland is mo lewis i understand that it's not
02:18mo lewis that's not what i duh what i'm saying is if you were stuck with drew bledsoe you were porked
02:25yeah he was done he was never really that great and certainly by that point he wasn't doing jack
02:32correct so you were done it was just good you think drake may is drew bledsoe in this
02:37yeah no he's gonna be better he might be drew bledsoe don't you think he's better than that
02:42he might be drew bledsoe i don't know don't you think he's better than drew bledsoe i don't know
02:46big arm kind of dumb makes bad picks he could be drew bledsoe likable yeah how do you know he's
02:52kind of dumb murray why do we keep going back to this i just you know i love that it's just a gut
02:59eyes and guts that's all that's all i got so i think i mean you know you know what i'm saying
03:04yeah the gap between brady and bledsoe is massive yeah the gap between daniels and may
03:13is massive as of right now it's not massive as of right now i don't think it's massive
03:18might be ultimately pretty big you think it's pretty big yeah yep and it will continue to
03:22get bigger i think yeah that's how i that's how i'm going look maybe i'm wrong but i think jayden
03:28daniels real deal drake may probably not going to be the real deal and look don't take my word for it
03:34how about take the word of mike reese i know all of you out there love mike reese we love mike reese
03:38mike reese never has anything bad to say about the team mike reese like the fifth craft son like you
03:41used to call him mike reese on record on this very station i think he wrote it too quote i think the
03:48patriots prefer jayden daniels over drake may again that's from mike reese of espn so don't take my word
03:53for it they preferred that quarterback too so look maybe it pans out and drake may ends up becoming
03:58the real deal we'll see jury's still out i'm not making my declaration yet but i will make the
04:02declaration jayden daniels yes better than drake may you could have him i had him but your uh chad
04:07rylan cost you your future by making that stupid kick in denver off of the culture no we're not throwing
04:12wins murray oh no not this late this season this is good for bill too where's he that big boob bum down
04:19at unc too no let's win one for the gipper go f yourself and by the way that was his final win
04:25is of course the patriots yeah that was belichick's final win so the patriots uh went two and six in
04:32their final eight games in fact they won two of their last five yeah the stupid game in pittsburgh
04:36too they won they won that game too they won two weeks earlier in pittsburgh so they were two and three
04:40in their last five the commanders lost their last eight so the commanders made sure clutch to do
04:46everything that they could to get down there where you maintained your integrity and culture and one
04:54at least one extra game that the commanders weren't trying to win and you end up with what you think
05:02murray's a lesser quarterback yes i am on record as saying that if you start doing that you are the
05:08jets and then you become the jets and that's just the way it's going to work out and that's what that's
05:11what it's going to be and in a draft like that where there were six guys there were a handful of
05:16guys pick a guy out of a hat pick a guy out of a magic hat and you're just as likely to come home
05:22with the guy that it made no difference one two or three and i'm kind of justified in that in that
05:28if you had really lost the games you were supposed to lose and you beat out what would have been
05:32carolina remember chicago drafted first overall correct because they had carolina's pick
05:37but if you had lost them all you end up at number one and now you draft caleb williams
05:43how would that taste right about now because i do not believe in that kid oh no whatsoever
05:47okay yeah he's done yeah but but let's just let's let's just keep it to daniels and may at the moment
05:53why the whole discussion is should you lose all the games you should lose to get as high a draft pick
05:58as possible if you had really done that you'd have caleb williams okay but denver was in week 16
06:04right week 16 so you were in possession of the number two pick for all intents and purposes and
06:10you gave it away just like you were in possession of the number one pick and gave it away in 2024
06:15correct so and all i'll say about this is i you know who murray could end up being right i'm just
06:24i'm not telling you he is right no he's right this moment but we don't judge things just after one year
06:29of course what about a show to do today i just said you're right at this moment yes that's today's
06:33show i don't need to have it with the qualifier at this moment i'll just take a jim's right and
06:37let's just say jayden daniels tuesday august the 5th you're right but if jayden daniels turns into a
06:43multiple super bowl winner and drake may ends up being mediocre let's go okay is that not a fair
06:52comparison to say that that field goal decided the fates of two franchises if we end up there okay
06:58well that's that's what i'm saying i just think right now there's nowhere i i don't think the gap
07:02between daniels and may is that of brady and bledstone it's not even in the same galaxy that
07:07gap okay well no more in a few months it's a bold take but would you at least admit that the seed has
07:12been planted for that take well you're right i mean dug it up it's planted right covered it up
07:17right now maybe it's a little germination if if you could have one guy starting right now going
07:21forward who would it be daniels or may daniels come on daniels daniels i'm still taking may i i think
07:28daniels if he keeps running the way he ran last year at his size he's in trouble i'll say the same
07:34thing about may by the way may's a little bigger than daniels so i think he can take a little bit
07:38more of the punishment but jayden daniels at his body frame he was the second he he had the second
07:45most rushing yards as a quarterback last year demar jackson was first with 915 jayden daniels was 891
07:52i know i'm not saying he can't i'm saying the more he runs the more he's going to subject himself
07:57to a injury that's going to knock him out don't you think they're going to beat that out of him too
08:01i don't know i hope they beat it out of may you know i was been encouraged by some of the things i
08:06heard from babel this offseason then we get into camp and there was a couple days here the last couple
08:10weeks where may's running around like an idiot i wouldn't be doing that but if i'm jayden daniels at
08:16that size i definitely wouldn't be doing that he played all 17 games last year sure did
08:21so he lasted despite the running that's right so did robert griffin his first year yeah listen and i
08:27acknowledge that if he runs like that he's going to get killed and he'll get hurt i'm just basing
08:32but the same as you said the same is true of may i'm just telling you that watching them throw
08:36daniels right now is far superior he he doesn't make nearly the bad decisions and his accuracy and
08:43decision making are excellent for for a guy as a rookie now again he's older but uh i thought last year
08:50there were throws that he made particularly late in the year and in the postseason where i went holy
08:54crap this kid's good no the holy crap moment was i believe it was week three at cincinnati yeah
08:59there was a right sideline oh he threw a ball in the back of the end zone i that's when i first
09:05thought my take was in trouble but that game was week three like the magic hats had something going
09:10but it's going left to right if i remember right but at the end of the day okay daniels had a gaudy
09:16completion percentage you mentioned it 69 that was sixth in the league nice he had 25 touchdowns
09:22which was tied for 10th with jordan love okay and jordan love missed a couple games he had nine
09:27interceptions which is middle of the pack i mean may yeah what's that that's a little high so nine
09:32interceptions um for example joe burrow had nine drake may had only 10 uh again he played four fewer
09:39games than jaden daniels but it's you know like that's not to for me to go from 10 to nine
09:46interceptions this year that's within the realm of possibility sure it is yeah for drake may to be
09:5110th in the league and touchdown passes with 25 that's in the realm of possibility
09:55murray and so we'll see not in the realm of possibility i mean sure it could yeah
10:02could happen with those wide receivers and you see in the field right but go on
10:08we are asking for the tone aren't we what do we expect today jaden daniels last year had 3500 yards
10:1516th in the league uh again i just he's jayce he put up he and jordan love had very similar numbers
10:23because i just when i was looking up today love was next to him and everything uh 25 touchdowns tied
10:27for 10th with jordan love uh yards 3500 that was 16th jordan love had 33 3400 call it 19th in the league
10:35uh his quarterback rating was 100.1 which was 11th you know who was 12th jordan love 96.7
10:42may was 12th i'm sorry uh may was 23rd may was 23rd 88.1 so again 10th in touchdowns middle of the
10:53pack and interceptions 16th in yards 11th in rating you think trick may can be that sure he could
11:00yeah we'll see yeah sure he could but again let's no no but let's remember that it was also
11:06daniels's first year so a lot of those numbers still have room to grow daniels are going to come
11:12down this year okay and the other thing is the commanders are going to come down this year yeah
11:15and i recognize this gets into the running he he was fourth in the league in qbr which i could go
11:21kiss my ass okay but qbr includes the running that's the espn set yes yeah who were those ahead of
11:28them lamar jackson josh allen joe burrow oh those are good guys so i mean fourth is pretty good
11:35jordan love was fifth who are the scum around may on the qbr uh jordan love was fifth trevor lawrence
11:42and bo nix you don't think drink may can be jordan love oh yeah sure go nuts i mean but jordan love's
11:48numbers are jaden daniels yeah those are numbers though it's just like you know like the guy like
11:53the the heart of the guy what i'm watching the team won at the same rate yeah they both lost to
11:57the same team in the playoffs true yeah that's true yeah you can have jordan so you think we're
12:02overrating daniels i'm just saying i mean they did i think the packers were 11 and 6 if i'm not
12:07mistaken sounds right um love missed three games the the commanders won 12 games the packers won 11
12:14they both lost to this got waxed by the same team in the playoffs the numbers on daniels and jordan
12:20love are really damn close and jordan love's uh performance the year before was even better
12:25yet jaden daniels is the guy and jordan love is nothing well no i'm not saying he's nothing i'm
12:33just saying if i had to choose i'm taking daniels over love i probably would too but compare them as
12:37rookies well it's hard to well no uh well i don't know love didn't even play well so right exactly he
12:45played his third or fourth year but the second half of love's first year as a starter he was
12:49bananas he was like the best quarterback in the league right right but as a rookie he did not start
12:54though that's right right so this is what i'm saying his first three years he didn't start well
12:58right so so it's really like if you go apples to apples year one to year one it's not close like
13:04jordan daniels is as good right now as jordan love was in year three and four i'm fine with
13:11rylan making that kick he should have made that kick you try and make your kicks you try and win
13:15your games you try and lose you become a loser and it's not going to work out for i can't remember
13:20exactly what the commanders did to lose all those games probably wasn't pretty but if they messed with
13:26the football gods too much this ain't going to work out that i'm here to tell you i don't know if
13:31it's going to work out for you either but you still did the right thing the best example ever was
13:35the houston texans winning in week 17 when they had no business no reason to win
13:40they ended up with the second pick versus the first pick the first pick was
13:43bryce young there in carolina they got cj stroud and they got the guy the football gods rewarded
13:49them the football guards the gods are going to reward me and punish big jim murray no they're not
13:54that's what's gonna happen karma's not real bad people win all the time and this bad person is
13:58going to win with this one too because i've already won with the magic hat and picking these
14:01quarterbacks you're going daniels greater than drake may i won the magic hat by the way
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