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00:00I'm like, all right, who is this? Quit screwing with me.
00:03Hello, Bradley. This is Ozzy. I like to fly into New York, and I want you to grab a pen and paper
00:08and write down these songs to learn. It started just shaking. I thought, this could be real.
00:13Rock, metal, prog, and everything in between. Welcome to this episode of Talkin' Rock with
00:20Meltdown. Don't forget to follow the audio-only Talkin' Rock podcast on all podcast platforms.
00:25And now, it's time for today's conversation. Here's Meltdown.
00:30Dude, you told me we would hook up and do an interview, and here we are. It's like the
00:33modern technology. Amazing how that happens. You want something done, you get it done.
00:39That's right. So, good to see you, Brad. Thanks for the time here. For those that don't know,
00:44we met a few weeks ago, and I told you about my, just my love for Speak of the Devil, and
00:50it was right after Ozzy passed away, and he let me hold that 1962 Strat as well that you
00:55played, and play to this day, as a matter of fact.
00:58Yeah, you know, that's my workhorse. I got that sanded down in a box in 1978-ish from
01:04a friend of my brother's, and he had this box and all in parts, and he said, hey, you
01:11want this? And I'm like, yeah, that'd be cool. I'll fix it up. And little did I know that
01:15that was going to be my workhorse through my whole career. Every record I've ever played
01:20on, Night Ranger, Ozzy, everything. Took it on tour. Still have it on, you know, play
01:24it every night. And, you know, it's my baby. I know it so well. And, boy, I built it up
01:32from scratch, too. You know, leftover Emron paint from my Dawson 240Z, and third Floyd Rose
01:37ever made in Floyd's garage, and built-in Shure Wireless. And, you know, it's my Ferrari.
01:44Yeah. And so, I mean, you play with a metal pick as well, which I found fascinating. When
01:51did you decide that was the pick for you?
01:54I started using metal picks eons ago, decades ago. Somebody turned me on to them, and I just
02:01got a feel for it. And they're not real thick, heavy picks. They're lighter, so they've got
02:06a little bit of flux to it when you use them. The heavier ones, I'm not into that much, but
02:11mines are more like the thickness of a Fender medium pick. But, you know, the really cool
02:18thing about them, not only do you get a lot of bite when you really grab into them and
02:22push them on the strings, but I do a lot of string scratching, which I take the pick and
02:28I scratch it along, mainly the low E string, and it gets a nice little growl to it.
02:34Now, I don't recall you. Do you throw those picks in the crowd?
02:38No. No, not the metal ones. I throw my yellow three-sided plastic ones out there. But the
02:46metal picks, you know, I'll give maybe one out. Or if I know it's like other pro guitar
02:51players and, you know, people that are, you know, that I think might be into using them.
02:55But I got to tell you, I got a, you know, a line coming out pretty soon through a company
03:00and I'm going to be getting them out there a little more with different variations and
03:07such. But, you know, I mean, yeah, the metal picks, people say, you know, they break strings.
03:12They do not break strings. They do wear them down a little bit. But, you know, my tech,
03:18Darren Hurst, he changes my strings every night. So I'm all good there.
03:21Now, we were talking about Speak of the Devil and, of course, you know, with Ozzy's
03:25passing and stuff. And when that record came out, I was like, I told you, I was just
03:31discovering rock and roll. For those that don't know, it's like, that was like, I, you
03:35know, Randy Rhodes had just passed away. Now there's this new live record comes out
03:39and all these Black Sabbath songs that I kind of knew a little bit but didn't know
03:42very well. And, of course, you're all over that record. And when do you get the call
03:47or whatever that they're going to record this record and they want you to be in the
03:50band? Well, that's a, I'll try to keep it short, clip notes and everything. But as
03:56Night Ranger was trying to get a record deal back in the 1981-ish, we were still
04:03called Ranger at the time and we were shopping a deal and wasn't much going on
04:07here in the San Francisco Bay Area as far as the band playing out because we
04:10weren't really known. I put together a band called the Alameda All-Stars, which
04:14are a bunch of friends of mine from the Bay Area. And we just started playing local
04:17clubs because I just wanted to play. You know, I started playing guitar with them
04:20when I was eight years old. I had my first band when I was 10, playing with all
04:24seniors when I was a freshman in high school. I jumped right into club bands
04:30after high school doing five sets and five nights a week. So I was just used to
04:35playing live and I just wanted to play. So, you know, I remember seeing Ozzy with
04:39Randy playing at the Oakland Stadium back in 1981. And I went to that show and I was
04:45blown away by Randy, you know. So the Alameda All-Stars had put together a couple of the
04:50Ozzy 2, I think it was Flying High Again and Crazy Train, into our set and we were
04:56playing it live. Now, I'm driving up to one of the shows with my equipment in the back
05:00of my Datsun pickup, you know, at the time. And my father was a pilot. He retired in 747s.
05:08But he had a small pilot's license and we used to fly around Cestas together and stuff.
05:14So I heard that Randy was killed in that plane crash. It devastated me. And just to find out
05:19it was in a small craft like that, I pulled over my truck and I went, oh my God, it kind
05:25of hit home, you know. I mean, a lot of reasons, you know. And so we decided to go up to the
05:32Lucky Lion, which was the name of the club back then, and do a little tribute to Randy
05:38and playing a couple, you know, Ozzy tunes with Randy. And there was a guy that saw me
05:44playing and thought I did it fairly well. His name was Preston Thrall. Now, Preston Thrall
05:48is a drummer. His brother's Pat Thrall, great guitar player. Pat Thrall played with Pat
05:53Travers' band, did a lot of stuff with him. And Pat Travers' drummer at that time was
05:58Tommy Aldrich. Long story, even longer, Preston told Pat, Pat told Tommy, Tommy told Sharon.
06:06So I was up really late on a Saturday night with a new friend. We'll keep it to that.
06:14You know, it's the 80s. It was the 80s. Yeah, yeah.
06:16Stayed up really late and, you know, got to bed real late. And I get this call at, you
06:21know, basically at seven in the morning. And, hello, Bradley, this is Darren Auden, Ozzy
06:27Ozzy was a manager. We'd like to fly to New York for an audition. Now, I thought
06:31someone was screwing with me. I didn't believe this would ever even happen. And I'm like,
06:35all right, who is this? Quit screwing with me. And they're like, no, no. She's like,
06:40no, no, this is Sharon. Let me put Ozzy on the phone. I go, yeah, put Ozzy on the phone,
06:46right? Hello, hello, Bradley, this is Ozzy. We'd like to fly to New York and I want you
06:52to grab a pen and paper and write down these songs to learn. Now, it started just shaking.
06:59I thought, this could be real. And I remember my father, when he'd be in New York and he'd
07:05call home back in the 80s, there was a slight delay on the phone. I caught that delay.
07:10Okay. Okay. Game on. I was freaking. I wish I had that piece of paper that I wrote these 19
07:17songs down on. 19 songs? I had to learn 19 songs. I only knew a couple of them, you know? And
07:24I even told Ozzy, I said, I only know a few. He's like, you'll learn them, right? And I said,
07:30well, of course I will. My advantage was I learned music when I was very young by ear.
07:37So listening to the radio, trying to pick it out, guitar solos from Hendrix to Page to Beck,
07:43trying to slowly pick out the solos. So my brother had, the seven years older me had the
07:48great record collection of everything and everybody. And I would, I learned by ear. So
07:53when I flew to New York, I was given a live cassette from a couple months earlier, two cassettes,
08:01board tapes that I still have, uh, that are with Randy on them that you could hear everything
08:08clearly. So Sharon set me up with a little, uh, a big boom box that played cassettes and a little
08:16amplifier. And I had my guitar and I would just sit in my room and listen to these tapes all day and
08:21learn by ear. Um, you know, you know, rewinding, going over it again, listening, uh, trying to,
08:27trying to work out these solos. And, and they had Bernie Torme at the time, uh, filling in until
08:33they had a replacement and four days in, uh, I felt I was ready, told Sharon and, uh, my first show
08:41Binghamton, New York, uh, I think it was April 13th, 1982 sold out about seven, 8,000 people,
08:48whatever it was. And I was, boy, I'm a scared kid, 24 years old, you know, never rehearsed with the
08:55band, only do it, only doing a sound check, seven out of the 18 songs. And Ozzy wasn't even there for
09:02that. Um, so I was quite nervous my first night. Um, and there you go. Yeah, I can imagine. So how many
09:09shows did you play before you guys recorded, uh, Speak of the Devil? Well, you know, that was later,
09:14a couple of months later. So we did quite a few shows all over the country. Um, now, uh, I think
09:19it was, uh, later June. Of course I joined in April. So April, May, June. So a couple of months later,
09:25we, you know, actually two weeks into the tour, uh, when I was just getting comfortable with
09:30everything, we played the King Biscuit Flower Hour in Memphis, Tennessee, which was a live broadcast
09:36throughout the nation. Now it was, it's a whole gig, you know, I mean, kids, you know, flipping
09:44me off, arms crossed. They weren't digging me. Who is this guy? You know, you don't replace Randy
09:49Rhodes, but I just, you know, Rudy said, you know, and, you know, Rudy, you know, Rudy was a big help
09:54with everything. Rudy Sarso. And, uh, he said, Hey man, you're doing fine. Just hang in there. So
09:59after the two weeks doing this King Biscuit gig, um, I did fairly well on that and it came across
10:05good. And, and, and the sound man, uh, at the time, you know, uh, put my cool effects and stuff
10:11on my guitars and nice stereo spread. And, and, uh, I got some good reaction from people. So after that,
10:17I started, uh, to get accepted by the audience. Uh, a couple of months in, we ended up playing the
10:23Irvine Meadows, which was that live broadcast. Uh, actually they filmed it for, um, MTV and had
10:30it on VHS, uh, tapes. Remember VHS? Oh yeah. Anyway. Uh, so that turned out real well. And then a couple
10:39months after that, uh, Ozzy wanted to do this, uh, live black Sabbath material at the Ritz in New York.
10:45So we did two nights at the Ritz and, you know, trimmed it down to no, with no keyboard player. Um,
10:51and they took the best, uh, variations of those two nights of the songs to, uh, put together
10:57Speak of the Devil. Now at that time, you know, Night Ranger trying to get a record deal too.
11:03Finally that started coming around, you know, that this might possibly happen. So, um, towards the
11:10end, you could just imagine just the whole camp, everything. I'm surprised they went on with the
11:15tour, but, you know, it was, uh, quite a somber, you know, camp, uh, with everybody's feelings about
11:22everything that went on and just trying to get through this tour. Um, basically at the end,
11:27Rudy ended up leaving to, uh, go back to Quiet Riot and boom, huge. They came out with a bang and, uh,
11:33I ended up, uh, quitting and coming back to Night Ranger. And, uh, here I, you know, 43 years later
11:39with the same band and, you know, um, great success and on tour doing 80, 90 shows a year
11:44and sold 17 million records. So, um, uh, I think I made a good choice. Yeah. It worked out well.
11:50And you guys, by the way, sounded, sounded amazing the other day. I was, you know, I was really
11:54blown away by how well you guys played. Well, thanks, man. You know, we, we, we got it down by,
12:00I figure 43 years, you better have it down, but you know, we are a band of brothers. Everybody gets
12:07along. We do make the best of it. We just joke around, goof off on stage and that exudes to the
12:11audience. And, you know, it's, it's, uh, I'm very blessed. I got to tell you, you know, to still be
12:17around and be healthy. And of course I've changed my regimen around to meltdown, dude, I quit drinking
12:23and, and I'm into this health kick and, and, uh, you know, I, I do it. I'm, I'm an old man and, uh,
12:31and I refuse to, uh, go by the numbers, you know? Yeah. Yeah. We're all a little bit older than we were
12:36back when that record came out. So overall, what was your experience? You were, you were with Ozzy
12:40for 10 months. Is that right? Yeah. I think about eight or now through the end of the year. And then,
12:46um, uh, when Rudy left, uh, you know, we had Pete way, um, UFOs bass player jumped in and we did a
12:53short European tour and then, uh, pretty much that was it. It was all done. And Ozzy took a break and I,
13:00I finished the night Ranger record, Dawn Patrol, uh, MTV just came out and they threw, uh, our first
13:07single, don't tell me you love me, uh, on, on, on, um, 24th on that 24 seven, you know, new video
13:14channel called MTV and they didn't have enough content. So dude, they literally played us 25 times
13:21a day in a 24 hour period, which was, you know, it was great for us and the band being newbies and,
13:27and it put a face to the music and we went right out and jumped on kisses tour. So, uh, boom, you
13:35know, we're right, right into it. Now this was, uh, they still, they were still, they still their
13:40makeup on correct. Or was this when they took it off? No, they had their, their makeup on. At one
13:44point, uh, I remember we put on Gene Simmons boots and, uh, you know, they really took us under
13:50their wing, you know, we're the young band and, and the nice guys, you know, and, and Gene's,
13:56Gene, what a great guy, man. He showed me his Polaroid collection. Okay. But, uh, but, uh, you
14:04know, we, I took this picture with the, you know, with his boots on and stuff, and he turned around
14:07with his back to the camera, but took the picture, you know, it was kind of fun, but, um, you know,
14:12they, uh, we had a great run with them that went right off that and went in with touring with Sammy
14:17Hagar. And then next thing you know, I was TV top and Chief Trick and anybody and everybody. And then,
14:24you know, we released our second record, Midnight Madness, which we started out with. You can still
14:28rock in America, which was huge, big hit for us and all over MTV. And then, then that little old
14:34ballad, Sister Christian. And boy, that took us to the top. Uh, I'll, I'll never forget, uh, the, uh,
14:41bookie agent said, you guys are doing well. We're going to start doing a headline tour now. And man,
14:46we sat around and designed this whole big staging and, and, uh, you know, we had all these trucks on
14:52the road and our first headline tour. And it was very exciting for us because we are, we saw our
14:57numbers grow and our audience growing. And, uh, I think our first big headline show was pulling into
15:04lacrosse, Wisconsin playing the Coliseum there. Right. And on the marquee, it said tonight,
15:11Night Range was sold out. So we were all like, yeah, I mean, we all just applauded. Yeah. All right.
15:15We, we, we made the big time headlining and we had a great run, man, uh, all through the eighties.
15:21Yeah. Um, yeah. And then it got a little stale towards the end of the year. We took a break and,
15:27uh, Jack did the damn Yankees. I did a solo record. I had Greg Allman singing, uh, two songs on my
15:33solo record, Gilrock Ranch. And, and, uh, everyone, we did other projects and stuff and got back together
15:40a couple of years later. And, uh, boy, we're just, uh, been, uh, going 110% ever since.
15:45Yeah. I was going to say, taking that break, of course, there was a big change in music too,
15:50uh, in that time you're talking about that, that, that helped you guys out a little bit,
15:54kind of, uh, clear your heads and, uh, and start anew.
15:58Well, when that happened, we were kind of wondering, you know, everybody, all, all, any rock
16:04and roll musician was wondering what's going to happen with, you know, good old rock and roll. And,
16:08uh, things kind of died. But, uh, then again, there was still a, uh, a place in the market for
16:14rock and, and, but, you know, I got to tell you with Nirvana and everybody that came out,
16:19it was a whole new ball game and just, you know, seeing the videos with them on it and stuff.
16:24And you're just looking and going, Oh my God, it is a whole new world out there. I think guitar
16:28solos got to a point that they were just so crazy and too many notes that backing it down to simplify
16:37new styles and sound with the Nirvanas really just kind of set up a new regime for us. And,
16:45uh, then, you know, we just noticed little by little rock and roll, just coming back into fashion,
16:50but, you know, uh, we're lucky enough to still be doing what we do and touring the world. We got
16:55Japan coming up and we do these rock and roll cruises. We're all over the map and getting ready
17:01to go back out again tomorrow and doing a week run. And then, uh, but you know, it's, it's,
17:06it's my life is what, what I chose and I'm blessed to still be doing, uh, what we do and, uh, and still
17:12playing guitar and, and having a blast. Yeah. Did any of the, um, um, grunge bands resonate with you
17:19like the Alison chains or sound garden or anything? Oh yeah, man. I love some of those bands. I think
17:24they're awesome. Um, uh, it, it was a whole new ball game and, and, but a lot of it was kind of
17:30downer music, you know, and where it got a little too prissy with, uh, eighties, you know, rock and
17:37roll with all these bands, too many love songs back in the eighties and they came out and they were a
17:41lot heavier. And I grasped a lot of these new bands and I was into them too, you know, just because
17:47it's just a whole new style of music. And, and as I progressed in the nineties, you know, things got
17:55a lot better. Um, I felt, uh, and you know, it's, it's still going strong with a lot of these bands,
18:01but you know, you've got to realize that, you know, country bands, boy, that, that country is going
18:07stupid. It's crazy. Um, you know, I went to a country concert, uh, a couple of years back and,
18:14you know, 20,000 people that are singing along and I'm thinking, wow. Cause I was
18:17really never into country music, but now I'm kind of getting into that too. Um, and then a lot
18:22of the pop songs he says, I could pass on a lot of this stuff, but there are bands that I kind of
18:28grab onto and listen to, you know, um, yeah. And, but then, you know, I got very eclectic listening
18:36tastes, you know, in the morning I'll wake up with like, you know, listen to something easy, like
18:40Death Cab for Cutie, or maybe even Coldplay and Empire of the Sun, bands like that. And then I'll get
18:45into the, I always got music around me, man, always. And then I'll start listening to
18:50Rammstein and Seether and all these heavier bands. And, and another band I'm just loving
18:55right now is Bring, Bring Me the Horizon. What a great band. They remind me of a, uh, of a hip,
19:01new, fresh, uh, Lincoln Park. So I, I'm into everything, man. Um, and which is good for my
19:07musical taste.
19:08Now you just mentioned a damn Yankees. I don't know if you saw this or not, but when I posted,
19:12uh, our picture, uh, with your, uh, 1962 guitar on online, uh, Ted Nugent responded that you are
19:18the real deal. He said, you're a solid player. What is it, what is it like to have a guy like
19:22Nugent give you so many props? And he, look, he, he didn't have to write anything.
19:26Oh, I know. Well, he's a great guy. We've been friends for decades. You know, I grew up listening
19:31to him and, and learning the songs and the cat scratch fevers and all those songs, which are so
19:37classic back then. And what a tone he had to that bird land, man. He just cranked those cleaner
19:44amps up so loud that, and the sustain and feedback that would come out of those speaker cabs was
19:50unreal. Uh, he came into the studio. We did some stuff up at Jack's house years back, got to be a
19:55good friend. Whenever we're close to him, we either go see him or he comes sees us. So for him to
20:01graciously, you know, give me that comment, I was overwhelmed and, and, uh, right back to him,
20:07man, this is, that was awesome. Yeah. You mentioned that, uh, that bird land and the
20:10tone, but man, the tone on that, on your guitar is so good. I mean, after all these years now,
20:15I don't look, I'm, I'm, I don't know much about gear and guitars and stuff, but did it,
20:19does it, does the tone ever change or is it just kind of, it's just locked in for however long you
20:24play it? Well, it depends on what you're playing through the guitars, the player. There's so many
20:31factors that go, uh, within each individual guitar player's sound. Um, now I've been playing
20:39through different amps, uh, but the same guitars, you know, I play that 62 Fender Strat that I've
20:44always played, but then I have a, uh, a couple of these old Fernandez, they made a hundred Brad
20:49Gillis Fernandez models, um, back in 1985. And I, and those, you know, the ones I play, I've, uh,
20:57they're all souped up to built in wireless systems. All my wireless systems are built inside
21:02my guitars. So not to, nobody's really doing that. And I locked into that years ago, but, um, uh,
21:08you know, just the different pickups and stuff. And it's all a factor of what you're going through,
21:14you know, this, the different effects and such, but, you know, having somebody like Darren Hurst,
21:18uh, as a guitar tech, the guy is awesome. He, uh, you know, he's been a pro guitar tech,
21:24did a Frampton for years, did a Joe Perry, and he's still going to do stuff with them coming up
21:29while we have some time off, but he came in and rewired my whole system, tighten everything up,
21:34got rid of the crappy effects and brought in the real stuff, the clones and the rack mount gear
21:39and everything and shorten all my cables. And next thing you know, my sound is twice as big. So,
21:44um, there's a lot of factors that, uh, that go within the, uh, the sound of each player.
21:51Sure. Now, uh, I, I watched your guys meet and greet the other day. I think you, you, you meet,
21:55you met and greeted with about a hundred people or so. Do how many people bring up speak of the devil
22:00or is it just pretty much night ranger fans or, uh, or is it, or is it just nerds like me?
22:05No, I mean, that's, it was a huge part of my life and a lot of other people's lives. And,
22:11you know, just like, you know, your, your Aussie t-shirt that you're wearing, I mean, these kids,
22:15and plus, you know, with that tragic death of, uh, Aussie, you know, um, that is,
22:20he's become more popular than ever. I mean, Jesus, it's, it's crazy. And, um, I signed a lot
22:27of speak of the double records and, and, uh, I hear people's stories. Oh, I came and saw you here
22:32and there back in 82 and such. And it's just, it's overwhelming, but you know, it's, it's part
22:37of my history. And, um, so we enjoy, um, you know, playing like crazy train at, at shows and stuff.
22:44And man, it's so, it's so great to all these other bands doing, you know, doing these Aussie
22:50songs. I mean, even country artists and everybody are, or, uh, you know, nodding to, uh, to Aussie
22:56and doing the, these different songs live. So man, it's just overwhelming. Um, you know,
23:03I did one post right after his passing and I've never got a million and a half views and anything
23:09I've ever posted and I'm just blown away about all, but, uh, you know, I mean, uh, I think we'll
23:16go on playing, uh, you know, uh, you know, uh, you know, uh, Nazi two and here and there, uh, you
23:22know, when we get a chance, uh, but, you know, cause I think it's a great response and, um, you know,
23:28we do a couple of damn Yankees tunes also. And, you know, Carrie, Kelly, our, uh, Carrie Kelly,
23:32our other guitar player, you know, he had a quite a few years with Alice Cooper. So we do, you know,
23:37schools out sometimes at these shows and, you know, you kind of want to play songs that
23:41people know instead of going too deep and night Ranger cuts, because sometimes, uh, especially
23:48a larger festival, uh, it's kind of like deer in the headlights on a couple of these B sides.
23:53So you want to kind of up the ante on, on your song content. Yeah. How did things go over the
23:58weekend with my friend, Jesse James up in a Sturgis there full throttle? Dude, that was a blast.
24:04So we had a great time and, you know, I have a Harley so I could relate to it. I've been
24:08riding bikes all my life, man. So, you know, go up there and, and, and having the promoter,
24:12uh, senior, uh, name, take us around and show us what Jesse's done to the place, which is awesome.
24:20Um, we just walked around. I took some pictures. I might post some stuff, but, uh, great venue,
24:25great crowd and what a lineup they were having that's still going on here for the next couple
24:28days. But, um, yeah, man, um, uh, I had a blast there and it was a great crowd and, uh, now we're
24:36home on a little break and back out again tomorrow. Yeah. I didn't know you had a Harley. So, uh, I
24:40have a street glide. I just rode to New York over the weekend and saw some of my friends and family
24:45and stuff. What, what do you got? I got a fat boy low. Okay. It's been, uh, totally, uh, revamped.
24:51I got it from a, uh, called the back bike exchange in, uh, and, uh, South Carolina and
24:57they've closed down, but you know, I want, I was, I had a, um, a hundred year anniversary,
25:02um, before that, uh, before this new bike. And I was kind of looking for something new and
25:08I went into the bike exchange and they had this great 2011, totally redone Harley fat boy
25:13low and awesome looking bike. And I said, what's the deal on this? And they said, uh, they said,
25:18said, well, you know, we totally revamped, went through the whole thing. It's all brand
25:23new parts. Uh, we had a, uh, had a, uh, contest giveaway and the guy that won it was like 70
25:30years old and never rode a bike. And he, he said, ah, just give me 10 grand for it. So
25:34we gave him 10 grand, took it back in. And I said, well, I'm interested how much. And,
25:41and then I said, well, wait a minute, we're playing with the Rick Springfield and the Romantics
25:45tonight. You want to go to the show? And he goes, well, let me, let me call my wife.
25:50So he calls his wife and I hear her screaming on the other end of the phone. I thought, okay,
25:56I'm going to work out a good deal here. I said, Hey man, tell you what? I'll set you
25:59and your wife up. We'll get you her. She can meet Rick Springfield. Um, uh, you know, and,
26:04and, uh, and then I'll come back tomorrow. We'll, we'll talk numbers on the bike. So they
26:08came and, and got them with Rick and his wife is just, you know, the owner of his wife is
26:13just blown away and then all excited. So the next day I went in, so how much for the
26:18bike now? He goes, man, she has such a great, great, great time. And I have such a great
26:24night. I guess it worked out. And he goes, tell you what, man, I'll give it to you for
26:29costs for 10 grand and tell you what shipping only 500 bucks. I went, okay, that's, that's
26:36looking pretty good. I said, you know, I want to, I want to get some, it doesn't have the
26:40name of the store on the side of the tank. I said, man, I want to put night ranger on
26:43the side of the tank. So we had somebody come in and repaint the tank and do the fenders
26:47and, uh, to a custom, uh, you know, logo and everything that I put on a night ranger and
26:52stuff. And, and, uh, it charged me 300 bucks for that. So all said and done, I got, you
26:57know, less than 11 grand into this bike and I just love it, man. But, uh, you know, you
27:04just gotta, when you ride motorcycles, man, you know, this, you just gotta watch out for the
27:09other guy. Oh, you know, don't, don't ride stupid. Just keep an eye out. Be very aware
27:13of your surroundings and it's fine. I hate being on the freeway where I live here in
27:17the, uh, uh, the East Bay and the, and the burbs with a lot of Hills. I like, I like
27:22those rides, but I'm not into the freeway at all. Yeah, no, I, I've, I've, you know,
27:26I, I often tell people, I think it makes me a better driver when I'm in my car. Cause
27:30I think I noticed things that people in cars probably don't notice. Yeah. Yeah, that's
27:36true. But I've always been very aware of my surroundings and, uh, you know, being
27:39in a band and people all in my face and stuff. And, uh, but, uh, you know, definitely
27:44in a motorcycle, you gotta watch it. And, uh, you know, and then, you know, I mean, last
27:49thing I want to even think about or worry about this, something happening on my bike
27:53and, you know, and, uh, spraining my wrist or something, you know, and there goes my
27:58guitar playing. So, yeah. So, so do you tell Rick Springfield before this, Hey, I'm
28:01working on this deal for this Harley. You got to help me out. No, I just got them
28:07backstage and, uh, Rick was there and I said, Hey, take a bit, you know, we've,
28:10we've done a lot of shows with them. He's a great nicest guy in the world. Great
28:13guy. And he's a fit guy too. He he's, uh, he's on this, uh, you know, the fitness
28:18routine that I'm on now. And, uh, so I really respect him for that. What is he
28:23like 75 or something? Unbelievable. Unbelievable. But he was nice enough and
28:28gracious to, uh, take a picture with my friends there. And, uh, but, uh, you
28:31know, we've been, uh, we got some great tours happening and great shows coming
28:35up. Uh, you know, a lot of, uh, we do a lot of shows with, you know,
28:40Foreigner, Loverboy, uh, Brett Michaels, uh, you know, um, and it, they're,
28:46I dig the festivals the best because for me, the more the merrier, but, uh, um, and
28:52then we're heading to Japan, Japan again. We've probably done 17, 18 shows
28:57there in my career. I went over there with Ozzy too, went over there with my
28:59dad and my brother when my dad was a pilot when I was like 14. That was the
29:04first time I went there, but, um, uh, we're going back and we're playing
29:08Osaka and then we're actually going back to Budokan and we're almost sold out
29:13there. And that holds like 8,000 people. Uh, everybody remembers the cheap trick
29:19live Budokan record. It was classic. So we're, we're going back there, uh, again
29:24to, to Budokan. We did a couple of shows there in the eighties too.
29:27Well, I'll tell you what, Brad, I'll let you fly here. Thanks for the, uh, thanks
29:30for the memories. Thanks for, uh, uh, sharing some time with me and telling
29:33your stories and, uh, great to connect with you. And I think I might be
29:36connecting with you here coming up on next month.
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