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Lehren Podcast takes you into the extraordinary and emotional journey of legendary Bollywood producer G.P. Sippy, the man behind the timeless classic 'Sholay'. As 2025 marks the golden jubilee of this glorious film, we rewind to a special moment from its 25th anniversary celebrations where G.P. Sippy sat down with the media alongside stars Dharmendra and Hema Malini. During the press conference, Sippy Ji reflected on struggles of his life before turning producer. From witnessing Mahatma Gandhi’s historic Dandi March to facing betrayal and abuse from his own servants and employees while he was a prominent businessman in Karachi, he then shared the bold decision that changed his destiny. He left Karachi and took a ship to Bombay and went on to rebuild his dreams - from selling rooms from a half-constructed building to founding the renowned Sippy Films, G.P. Sippy rose to become one of the greatest producers in the history of Indian cinema. Watch to catch this inspiring story of late Sippy Saab, only on Lehren Podcast!

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Transcript
00:00A servant who used to work with us, he came and abused me and I don't want to repeat these things.
00:10After landing in Bombay, it was again a problem. I couldn't find a house.
00:18You don't know where you are. You are so big in the world.
00:48You are so big in the world.
01:16Shole, since release, has been creating history and when it was released at Minerva Cinema in Bombay, in the beginning the response was not that good but it picked up very, very quickly and it ran for five years.
01:44In Minerva Cinema and I may point out to you that on the front page of Times of India they put a big photo and saying, don't you mistake that this is the release of Sean.
02:08Sean was to follow that day. But this is the last show here.
02:15But this is at Minerva Cinema for the time being. So you see after five years also a paper like Times of India wrote and carried this picture which was a which gave us a lot of satisfaction.
02:37So to talk about Shole and building performances and all these things, you all do it. I think you might have seen more than I have seen Shole. So it's no use going to that. And we have all our friends here who will also talk.
02:56But I will talk a little about myself also. Since I have got this opportunity, I don't want to miss also.
03:04You see, India's independence movement, you know, Mahatma Gandhi played a very, very big role. And the first public thing that he started was march on Dandi.
03:23Dandi is a village on seaside. And the purpose was that salt used to carry excise duty. He took it that salt is poor people's food and that should be given to them free.
03:42And it generated a lot of support and heat. And actually it was the foreigner of the movement for the liberation of India. And I was a very little kid, 10, 11 years old then.
04:02And I also wanted to participate. We got some salt. We couldn't go to Dandi. We got salt in where we were living. And I went to city magistrate court and outside I shouted, Dandi is salt, Dandi is salt.
04:25And people, a lot of people came around. And city magistrate called me in. He was also a sindhi of my community. He said, what are you doing? Please get out. I said, don't you realize that you are sitting here as a city magistrate?
04:50I have come to say, don't you realize that you are sitting here as a city magistrate?
04:51I have come to sell salt. And I will even sell to you. He got me to send you. So instead of sending me to jail for three months, he sent me for six months. For which I am grateful.
05:03Okay. That was the part of career. And then I was in Pakistan. First I used to practice as a lawyer. And then I took to business.
05:28And I had very wonderful business in the main place in Karachi, Elfenstein Street, which was the center of business. And I had a huge concern there.
05:44And when Pakistan was declared and Karachi and Sin, it became a part of Pakistan, then I never could imagine that any such thing could happen.
06:05And then a servant who used to work with us, he came and abused me. And I was wondering what should I do. And the other implies also, they were mostly Muslim.
06:27So I had to think what to do. I had thought of one thing. That if you can't live with honor anywhere, it is better to go. So I do love this very much.
06:45I decided to leave. I decided to leave Karachi and took a ship steamer to Bombay. I had heard a lot of Bombay and I thought, Bombay will be a wonderful place.
06:59Because after landing in Bombay, it was again a problem. I couldn't find a house. The controller of accommodation was there. Only he could a lot, even a room.
07:14So I landed in Bombay and I was without any accommodation or anything. I saw a house in Kolaba on main causeway, which was more or less complete, but not completed.
07:31So I approached the owner and asked him if he would sell it. He was very, very happy. And he jumped at the idea and he said, yes.
07:43So I bought the house from him and put an ad in Times of India, who were then very reluctant to take this ad also. But finally, I persuaded them and they took the ad and I advertised houses for sale.
07:59And there were hardly 30, 40, 50 houses. And there was a crowd of 500 people. Everybody wanted accommodation. So they came and we could only sell as many as good.
08:17And this is how the ownership business of this thing came into being for the first time in India and maybe for the first time in the world. I do not know.
08:28But I am sure it was in India and it changed the shape of Bombay to a very, very great extent.
08:36So after doing that, I put up some, I am taking a little more time and I hope you will not excuse me. And I put a few more buildings and lot of film people came to buy them and negotiated.
08:54And in doing so, they influenced me. Why don't you join the movies? Why don't you make movies? First of all, I was very, very reluctant. But finally, that I gave.
09:06And I started a picture. And my first picture was also appropriately named Saza.
09:13I kept the name Saza and made it. And the picture was with Devananda and other artists.
09:25And the cameraman was Jal Mistry who had made Barsat. And then his brother was there also.
09:37And then when the picture was about to be complete, the music director told me,
09:43Sipi Sahib, if you allow me, I will introduce a new songwriter.
09:50I said, Sachin Da, if you want to introduce a new songwriter, though we have our arrangement with Rajendra Krishna, but still, I respect your decision and please do.
10:06And he says, his name is a young boy and his name is Sahir Ludhiva Livi.
10:13It was the first time that he was writing a song, or the song that he wrote.
10:23Tum na jaane kisi jaha mein kho gai.
10:26Ham itni bari dunia mein tana ho gai.
10:29So, it was the introduction of Sahir Ludhiva Livi also, which gave me a great play.
10:36Now, I come to Shan, not Shan, Shole, for which we have gathered here.
10:45I had my department of writers, Salim, Javed, at that time Gulzar also happened to be there.
10:57And we had a very wonderful thing to write stories and all these things.
11:02And then the idea came, the suggestion came, why not to make an action picture?
11:09Okay, we said, for a change it is nice.
11:12And the suggestion was that we make two countries.
11:16And then finally, we came down that Dekuats are such a known institute in India.
11:24Why not to have that background and make a movie on them?
11:32Let us choose, pass it out inIchika.
11:35If you have any trivia oride iets, I will don't miss a one smile.
11:37There will be a movie on YouTube.
11:38And then if you see that I want to wear it, that I see all and.
11:42This will then be recognized as a clar Ahh Ahh Unfortunately.
11:45And when we cut off the idea of how this is with a song.
11:48Ok, bye bye, see you again.
11:50Bye.
11:52And now it's been valid.
11:54Bye bye.
11:58Bye.
12:00Bye bye.
12:01Bye bye.
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