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Can police use a blurry image taken just seconds before a young woman’s disappearance to find the man responsible for her savage murder?
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00:00Did she seem okay when you said goodnight to her?
00:04Yes, she was fine.
00:10The next morning, my wife noticed Josephine wasn't there.
00:13That's when her nightmare began.
00:16The family couldn't find her.
00:18They were at a loss.
00:20It felt different.
00:22Need to get on this one quick.
00:26A ranch worker discovered the remains of a deceased female.
00:30We had a picture of her wearing the same exact clothes.
00:34This is Josephine.
00:36I didn't even get to say goodbye.
00:43She had told her friend that she was going to meet up with a boy.
00:48The boy had made some strange statements.
00:53Her friend felt that something wasn't right.
00:56So she decided to take a picture of the vehicle.
01:00He had made a post asking if anybody knew a good attorney.
01:07How did you interpret that comment?
01:10The timing was pretty suspect.
01:13It's one of those things that makes you go, this is the guy.
01:15This is the guy.
01:18Hi, I'm Paula Zahn, and tonight we're on the case in Madera, California.
01:36It was here in this small, picturesque city that the murder of a teenage girl sent shockwaves through the community.
01:44The discovery of a shallow grave and the puzzling evidence of the crime scene led them to ask many disturbing questions.
01:52As police began their quest for answers, one thing seemed clear.
02:03No one in the region would be safe until her depraved killer was behind bars.
02:09October 22nd, 2019.
02:17It was just after 10 on a warm fall morning when the Madera County Sheriff's Office got an alarming call from the foreman of a nearby Ullman Orchard.
02:27And the details of his report made it clear it was going to be a very long and difficult day for investigators.
02:35A ranch worker was driving along this road.
02:43As they got closer to this area right here, they discovered what appeared to be the remains of a deceased female and alerted the sheriff's office.
02:53Within minutes, Deputy Robert Blem and every other available officer were being led to the dusty stretch of farmland.
03:02What did you see once you arrived at the scene?
03:06I saw a deceased female that was heavily decomposed.
03:13Could you determine what had caused her death?
03:16No. You could not tell at that time what may have caused her death.
03:24But to the eye of a seasoned investigator, it was obvious she had been the victim of foul play.
03:32Her positioning, partially buried, essentially from her waist down to her feet, caused me to think a couple of things.
03:39Number one, that the death was some type of homicide because somebody took the effort to hide the body.
03:46The other thing was something startled them.
03:49They did not complete the job of burying her.
03:52And as investigators studied the location, it seemed likely that the sound of a passing car or its headlights might have been responsible.
04:06Was it a remote part of a field?
04:08Where we found her, it was basically the access road to the southern part of the orchard.
04:13They could have put her further in the trees.
04:16Could have gone all the way down to the river.
04:20But she was right in the middle of the road, like they wanted her to be found.
04:26Did the killer leave any evidence behind?
04:29The human body is obviously our biggest piece of evidence in any case like this.
04:34So I was going through my mental checklist of what we needed to do next.
04:38That checklist included scouring the orchard for evidence.
04:43But there was no blood, drag marks, nor signs of a struggle discovered.
04:50Did that make you believe then that the victim had been killed elsewhere?
04:54That definitely comes to mind.
04:56In fact, the evidence investigators saw made it seem likely that the killer had only been in the orchard a short time.
05:07Detectives discovered a distinct set of tire tracks which turned partially into the orchard
05:12and made it appear as though a vehicle had conducted a three-point turn in this location and left the area.
05:17Detectives knew that meant any evidence of how the crime unfolded was somewhere else as well.
05:34Investigators got their first break when the medical examiner provided them with a clear view of the victim.
05:40Was there anything found on the victim that helped you identify her?
05:47Yes.
05:48She had a black t-shirt with white writing that said Queen,
05:53and there was a silver braided necklace that was still on the decedent at the scene.
05:59Were you ultimately able to connect those items with the victim to make an identification?
06:06Yes.
06:07One of the detectives that was at the scene immediately alerted me that
06:10that particular t-shirt and necklace matched the description of a 16-year-old girl
06:17that had been reported missing to the sheriff's office.
06:20For Detective Louis Padgett, the unique t-shirt and necklace had been in his mind every moment
06:33since he began investigating the mysterious disappearance of Josephine Jimenez six days before.
06:41Did a sense of dread come over you?
06:43Yes, because it was a match to the clothing she was wearing the night she went missing.
06:47But Detective Padgett still couldn't be sure.
06:52She was at a rate of decomposition where you couldn't say, this is her.
06:59The number one priority is making a positive identification on the person that we found.
07:04That ultimately had to be done through dental records.
07:12Detective Padgett made the painful call to Josephine's parents to get her dental record.
07:17While the rest of the team focused on trying to piece together how the crime unfolded.
07:24Did it appear to you that sexual assault was the likely motive for the murder?
07:29We had no indication that involved any sort of sexual anything.
07:33How about robbery?
07:35No, she was found with a few dollars in her pocket, but she had no cell phone.
07:39As the young woman's remains were transported to the medical examiner's office for autopsy,
07:49deputies fanned out, searching the area for witnesses.
07:53None of the orchard's employees remembered seeing anything suspicious.
07:57But the owners of the property did provide a clue that helped police with the crime's timeline.
08:07They had been riding their horses with several of their dogs through the orchard approximately two weeks prior and did not see the body.
08:17And any lingering doubts that Josephine Jimenez had been the victim were eliminated during the autopsy.
08:28Through dental records, we were able to confirm the identity of the decedent as Josephine Jimenez.
08:33What were the results of the autopsy?
08:38The only trauma that was noted were some bruising to the spaces between the ribs,
08:44which could indicate that there was a great weight placed on her chest.
08:48The pathologist was not able to determine a cause of death.
08:54But the injuries were consistent with suffocation.
08:57And left no doubt that Josephine Jimenez had been murdered.
09:05The missing persons case was now a homicide investigation.
09:11And the first step for investigators would undoubtedly be the hardest.
09:17One of the worst jobs in law enforcement is to inform a family member that they've lost a loved one.
09:23How difficult was that for you?
09:25And I've done it for 27 years.
09:30It's never easy.
09:45For more than a week, Maria and Raymond Jimenez had been praying for the safe return of their 16-year-old daughter.
09:52But now investigators were giving them the worst news possible.
09:58Their precious Josephine was never coming home.
10:03How did you work through your grief?
10:06I still haven't.
10:08I made myself numb to everything.
10:13And, um...
10:15I'm sorry.
10:18I was really angry.
10:25I think I still have that same anger in me now.
10:29I don't think I'll ever be able to...
10:33let it go.
10:36And that rage only deepened as police explain where and how his daughter had been found.
10:52Did they give you any details after they broke the news to you?
10:55It's just that he buried her half ways with her face down in the dirt.
11:01I wanted to see her.
11:03And they told me that they wouldn't let me because she was so decomposed.
11:09I feel like I really didn't even get to say goodbye.
11:12Everything Josephine's parents were experiencing seemed unthinkable just a few days earlier.
11:31Until then, the 16-year-old had brought them nothing but joy.
11:36What made her so special?
11:37She was an outgoing person.
11:41She would do anything for anybody if she could.
11:44She was a social butterfly.
11:47She was going to be your friend no matter what.
11:50And Josephine had big dreams.
11:53She wanted to see the world and had a plan for how she was going to do that.
11:59She wanted to join the service.
12:01She was preparing.
12:02She was exercising.
12:04Taking classes.
12:05She's been wanting to join the Army since she was in seventh grade.
12:17As the Jimenez family gathered for her memorial service,
12:22police began re-examining every detail in Josephine's missing persons case file.
12:28It's stated that her father had been the last one in her family to speak with the teenager before she disappeared.
12:37It was about 8 o'clock at night and I was heading to bed.
12:40She was in the bathroom.
12:42Did you ever see her go back to her bedroom?
12:44No.
12:44And did she give anyone in the family any indication she might go out that night?
12:50No.
12:51No.
12:52The next morning, I got up, went to work.
12:55I was there about 15 minutes and my wife noticed Josephine wasn't there.
12:59And that's when her nightmare began.
13:01The unslept-in bed terrified Maria.
13:10She immediately reached out to Josephine's closest friends.
13:15But none of them claimed to have any idea where she might have gone.
13:21The 16-year-old had vanished.
13:23I started calling my family members to come to help look for her.
13:31It was like, where's my kid at?
13:34In my heart, I knew something was wrong.
13:36So I called the sheriff's department.
13:42When detectives arrived, they analyzed Josephine's room for any signs of foul play.
13:49As investigators carefully looked at Josephine's home,
13:53could they find any signs of a struggle?
13:57No, there was nothing that would indicate Josephine left for any other reason than of her own free will.
14:04We interviewed numerous classmates of hers.
14:07There was nothing to indicate that there was anything going on in the home that would be out of the ordinary.
14:12But as police pressed the teenager's friends,
14:15they slowly began to reveal clues they hadn't shared with Josephine's mother.
14:20A few of them knew that she was going to sneak out of her house that night after her family went to bed.
14:33What did Josephine say her plan was for the night?
14:35She indicated that she was going to go out with a boy and that they were going to go to a local wing stop to get some food.
14:46Was there ever any indication she made it there?
14:50No.
14:50I actually went to the wing stop and went through their surveillance for that night.
14:55I looked for Josephine coming into the restaurant.
14:59She never made it in.
15:03Police turned to Josephine's phone record, hoping to follow her electronic footprint.
15:09Were you able to trace Josephine's movements through her cell phone activity?
15:14Unfortunately not, because she had a cell phone that only worked on Wi-Fi.
15:19And there was more bad news.
15:22Josephine had been cryptic about who she was meeting that night.
15:26The only details she let slip were that he was older and a family friend.
15:33Police asked Josephine's parents if they knew anyone who fit that description.
15:38Could they think of who she might have met up with that night?
15:43Ultimately, they provided us two different names, one of which was a gentleman named Ethan.
15:53What happened once he was questioned?
15:56According to him, they hadn't spoken for quite some time.
16:00Where did he say he was that night?
16:02He was a shift manager at a local Taco Bell.
16:04And we were able to confirm through his work records and with his manager that he was in fact working that evening.
16:11We ruled him out as a potential suspect.
16:13What was the other name that was mentioned?
16:20The other person that was mentioned was a gentleman named Tyler.
16:25Tyler told police he had met Josephine through their church youth group and they had become friends.
16:31But he denied being the young man who she had gone out with the night she disappeared.
16:38He admitted to hanging out with her earlier in the day of October 13th.
16:44They had gone to a local mini-mart.
16:47They were hanging out all day and that's confirmed because we pulled surveillance.
16:53Tyler said around dinner time, Josephine had gone home.
16:57When was the last time he had spoken with her?
17:01He said that sometime between 9 and 11 o'clock in the evening.
17:06She called and told him that she was going to go meet somebody and go get something to eat.
17:14Tyler said she never mentioned the man's name and she was still getting ready when they hung up.
17:20Tyler was the last person that we'd know to talk to her.
17:24Detectives pressed Tyler about his relationship with Josephine and he insisted they were just friends.
17:32But police believe that his behavior was more like that of a jealous boyfriend.
17:38He tried to call her like twice at like midnight.
17:43Was he concerned when she didn't pick up when he called her at midnight?
17:46Yeah, but he said he was tired and then he went to bed.
17:49Police were still troubled by the inconsistencies in Tyler's story.
17:56And as they dug deeper, new evidence was uncovered that cast doubt on everything that the young man had told them.
18:05Police investigating the disappearance and murder of Josephine Jimenez continued to get more important information from friends of the teenager,
18:27some of whom had initially been hesitant to come forward.
18:32What was the next lead police got?
18:35We ended up speaking with a friend who was actually having a video chat with Josephine the night she left the residence.
18:44She had told her female friend that she was going to meet up with a boy and he had pulled up to pick up Josephine.
18:51And there was more.
18:58The friend said she was desperately trying to convince Josephine not to go, right up to the moment she left the house.
19:05Had Josephine actually told her something that made it clear she was worried about who she was meeting up with?
19:14Josephine expressed a little bit of worry, but at the end of the day decided it would be okay.
19:19Josephine's friend wasn't as certain, and just before their video chat's Wi-Fi signal dropped, she decided to grab some screenshots.
19:31She felt that something wasn't right, so she decided to take a picture, thankfully she did.
19:39It was very good intuition on the friend's part.
19:41It was an incredible new lead for investigators.
19:48Why hadn't she come forward with that information before?
19:51I think a lot of people just assumed Josephine was going to turn back up, and this wasn't the serious issue that it had become.
19:59Police carefully reviewed the grainy images the teenager provided.
20:04A friend took two screenshots.
20:08One appeared to be what Josephine was wearing the night she left her house.
20:12It was the same black t-shirt and necklace Josephine had been wearing when her body was found.
20:21But it was the second picture that changed the course of the investigation.
20:29She was able to screenshot a vehicle that had pulled up to the area.
20:36Could you glean any information from that blurry shot?
20:40About the only thing we could tell was that it was a gray or silver vehicle.
20:44We could not tell the make, model, year from the photograph.
20:49It was a silver four-door.
20:50It had darker wheels.
20:52It had some body damage.
20:58Police took the images to the lab, hoping they could get a better look.
21:03We had it digitally enhanced, but that didn't improve the image enough to identify what type of car.
21:10But what was clear to police was that whoever was behind the wheel had been involved in Josephine's murder.
21:20Walk me through the process you used to decide who to focus in on as persons of interest.
21:31Most people are murdered by somebody that they know.
21:34And that was just one of the reasons Josephine's friend Tyler was still at the center of the investigation.
21:43He had nearly come to blows with a teenager's father after he asked some pointed questions.
21:52Did you think he was hiding something from you?
21:55I did.
21:55At that moment, I did.
21:56An examination of his social media showed that he had made a post on a local Facebook page asking if anybody knew a good attorney for a criminal matter.
22:15That post was made the day before Josephine's body was discovered.
22:23I felt the timing was pretty suspect.
22:26Police decided they had to speak with Tyler again.
22:34What happened once he was questioned?
22:37He denied any involvement in Josephine's disappearance.
22:39When he was questioned about any possible romantic interest or involvement with Josephine, he said that Josephine wasn't interested in boys.
22:50She was interested in girls.
22:51He was adamant that she liked girls and that they didn't have a relationship.
23:00Did you think he made that up to take attention off himself?
23:04I wasn't sure.
23:08Police spoke with those closest to Josephine to see if what Tyler claimed was true.
23:14During interviews with some of Josephine's friends, they told us that Josephine's romantic interests lie towards girls as opposed to men.
23:27Despite the confirmation, investigators still had questions about Tyler's feelings for Josephine.
23:34And the evidence failed to quell those concerns.
23:37I saw a video of the day that they were hanging out and they were chummy and they were close.
23:46Oftentimes, one party can be romantically interested in another and that can lead to crimes such as this.
23:54I wasn't ready to rule them out.
23:56Still, police knew they would need evidence.
24:04Hoping to make a case against Tyler, they did a search of his vehicle.
24:09What kind of car did he drive?
24:11They had a gold Chevy Blazer.
24:12So, clearly, that had nothing to do with the image of the gray vehicle that you all had been studying.
24:19Correct.
24:19The search of the SUV didn't reveal any evidence of a crime.
24:24But investigators discovered a few details that Tyler had left out of his original story.
24:33He hadn't been driving that day and he had not gone home after his afternoon with Josephine.
24:39We had received information that he had been at his cousin's house that evening.
24:44Did you believe he forgot to tell you or he intentionally left that out of his story?
24:53I don't know what's going on in his head, but he said he forgot to tell us.
25:00And when police approached Tyler's cousin to find out more about what happened that night,
25:07what they discovered pushed a stalled investigation into high gear.
25:14Police investigating the murder of Josephine Jimenez had zeroed in on her friend Tyler.
25:37They wondered if there was a reason why the young man had not told police he had been out with his cousin the night she disappeared.
25:48And those suspicions deepened when they got a good look at the car his cousin owned.
25:54We went and drove by there and there was a great smaller sedan in the driveway.
25:58Police were stunned.
26:02The car looked like the one in the blurry picture Josephine's friend had taken.
26:09What were the obvious similarities?
26:11It had a similar color.
26:13It had similar molding on the bottom of the doors.
26:17The rims looked like they were the same shape as the vehicle in the photo.
26:21Police believe those matching details were enough to get a search warrant.
26:31And they hoped that their specialized license plate reading cameras would tell them more about where that car had been on the night of Josephine's murder.
26:40They're positioned at key locations in most cities and every time a vehicle drives by, the database logs that license plate.
26:51Each entry contains the exact time the car passed the checkpoint and the direction it was heading.
26:58We were able to discover that at about 9.30 in the evening on October 13th, that vehicle was hitting a license plate reader driving towards Josephine's.
27:13Police were intrigued.
27:15That was just minutes before Josephine was picked up.
27:21And more red flags were raised over where the license plate readers hit on that car next.
27:28The vehicle was then captured after midnight on another license plate reader coming back into the city.
27:34The car was returning to the city on a road that led to the area where Josephine's body had been found.
27:46Investigators believe that nearly three hours between those sightings were enough time to have committed the crime.
27:53What was the picture that was emerging?
28:02We were looking at the very strong possibility that Tyler and his cousin
28:07had gone to meet Josephine Jimenez that night, picked her up, and were involved in her disappearance and death.
28:15Now all police needed was the physical evidence to prove their theory.
28:23But before investigators could even get the go-ahead for their next steps, they received a mind-boggling new lead.
28:32My desk phone rang, and on the other end was a special agent from NCIS, Camp Pendleton.
28:39And the call from the Marine base dramatically changed the course of the investigation.
28:44The agent asked me if we were investigating the death of Josephine Jimenez, and I relayed that we were.
28:54And they told me that they were conducting an investigation of a Marine,
28:59and that they believed he might have something to do with her disappearance.
29:01What made them think that?
29:06NCIS was conducting their own investigation in regard to his involvement in social media and text message sextortion scheme.
29:16According to NCIS, the Marine had been tormenting young women and teenage girls for months.
29:24His technique involved acquiring private photos and videos of his victims through theft or deception.
29:32And once he had them, a pressure campaign began.
29:38Did he threaten those young women and say, I will post them if you don't meet with me?
29:44Yes. He would say, hey, now that I have this, if I don't get what I want, then I'll post them everywhere.
29:49I'll show them to your family.
29:51This wasn't about money.
29:53It was about power, control, and sexual gratification.
29:59And the Marine had already confessed at least one of his victims was underage.
30:05He admitted during that investigation that he had been doing that with Josephine Jimenez.
30:14Both NCIS and Madera Police were convinced that the mention of Josephine's name meant
30:21that the sextortion scheme and the teenager's murder had to be connected.
30:26The Jimenez homicide investigation suddenly had a new prime suspect.
30:31Police investigating the Josephine Jimenez murder had just zeroed in on a new suspect, U.S. Marine Cody Slayton.
30:54And more evidence was uncovered with a quick check of his DMV records.
31:01What kind of car did Slayton drive?
31:04He drove a late model silver Ford Fusion sedan.
31:09And once I looked at an online stock image of the vehicle, I realized it closely matched the screenshot taken by Josephine's friend.
31:19And the case against Slayton continued to come together.
31:27The Marine was not on his base on the night of the murder.
31:32He had been on leave from the Marine Corps and in the Madera area the night Josephine disappeared.
31:38Did that send a chill down your spine?
31:43Yes.
31:44It was certainly a very exhilarating thing to get that lead at that moment.
31:50Meanwhile, Marine Corps investigators were continuing to look into the other crimes Slayton was involved in.
31:57NCIS was looking into Cody soliciting images of underage females.
32:02Slayton had admitted that Josephine Jimenez was one of the young girls he had preyed upon.
32:10And investigators discovered they shared a Madera connection.
32:17I was like, she knows him.
32:20She trusted him.
32:23My heart just dropped.
32:26It was stunning news.
32:28Not only had Josephine known Cody, their families were well acquainted, too.
32:35I had met his stepmom and his stepdad.
32:40Their daughter was one of her best friends.
32:44In fact, Slayton had attended Josephine's memorial service.
32:49He was the first one to put a candle down on the court steps for justice for Josephine.
32:58Police now believe that Slayton had somehow acquired photographs or information that would embarrass the 16-year-old.
33:10And he had used them to force her into a face-to-face meeting.
33:16So it is your belief he was able to talk her into leaving her home that night.
33:21Because in some way he was going to shame her.
33:24Yes, 100%.
33:25Before law enforcement confronted Slayton with her theory, they needed to collect facts that proved he was the mystery man that Josephine had met up with the last night she was seen alive.
33:42And that started with tracing the movements of his silver Ford on the night Josephine disappeared.
33:50The first thing I did was input Cody's license plate number into the license plate reader system.
33:56And it hit off a license plate reader with him driving towards her residence.
34:00Then just before 10 p.m., the plate readers placed Slayton's car in another critical location.
34:10It hit where the Wingstop was located.
34:18Police were now confident that Slayton was behind the wheel of the silver car that picked up Josephine.
34:25And they were ready to talk with their prime suspect face-to-face.
34:31What was your plan going into your interview with Slayton?
34:36Detective Gutierrez was my ace in the hole.
34:39He was a Marine.
34:40So as soon as we walked in the room, it was instant rapport.
34:45I kind of took a back seat and introduced him and let him talk about things.
34:49The questions began with the night Josephine disappeared.
34:53So you saw her what day?
34:55Um, I believe it was Sunday.
34:59She had texted me, asked me if I wanted to go get something to eat.
35:02We were going to go to the Wingstop.
35:04We got there, she changed her mind.
35:11Slayton said Josephine wanted to go somewhere more private.
35:15And police were stunned when he said where he had taken her.
35:22We went to the Vineyards.
35:24Nobody really used that road anyway.
35:27The road Slayton described was a few miles from where Josephine's body was found.
35:33I told people in the office, this is the guy.
35:37This is the guy.
35:40You guys are going to hook up?
35:43Yeah.
35:43We hooked up in the back of my car, and then I took her home.
35:51But investigators knew Slayton hadn't taken the teenager home.
35:56The license plate reader never hit on his car again that night.
36:04Detective Gutierrez decided it was time to confront Slayton marine to marine.
36:10We have a lot of consistent stuff that indicates exactly what happened.
36:17The way we fix it is, we're honest about it.
36:20You know, honor, courage, commitment.
36:22You know what I mean?
36:23Yeah.
36:24I know that something went bad.
36:26Something that was not supposed to go wrong went wrong.
36:29You need to dig deep in there, dude.
36:31Slayton said he needed time to think.
36:35He asked to pause the interview.
36:37Police agreed.
36:38And when he returned, Slayton began to add more troubling details to his account.
36:50I was sleeping with her, but, like, she wanted to be, like, rough, and it went, like, a little too far.
37:00Investigators were sickened as Slayton claimed that Josephine asked him to choke her.
37:09And eventually, I kind of, like, felt a pop.
37:12I didn't know if she was, like, breathing, or if she wasn't, but she had stopped, and then she kind of, like, gurgled.
37:23Slayton told investigators that after he was certain that Josephine was dead, he drove into the orchard to hide his crime.
37:40The young Marine said that he feared that someone was going to see him, so he left before he finished.
38:05It just took, like, a lot longer than what I thought.
38:12After listening to Slayton's story, investigators were certain that most of the details were made up, created by a man trying to minimize his guilt.
38:29His story was, this was an accident, this wasn't an accident.
38:35His story is just not possible.
38:38It's a deliberate act.
38:41He made a decision to end her life.
38:49Police were confident what actually happened is that Josephine had refused to give in to Slayton's demands, and he had become enraged.
38:59I believe that Josephine resisted Cody's advances that evening.
39:04I believe that she probably threatened to expose his activity, which would have cost him dearly, and he strangled her.
39:19Slayton's brutality put an end to Josephine's promising future.
39:24And shattered the lies of her friends and family.
39:31Police charged the Marine with her murder.
39:35And in May of 2023, Slayton fled guilty to all charges.
39:40He was sentenced to life in prison.
39:43What did you say to him when you faced him during your victim impact statement?
39:53That he was a worthless piece of it, and I hope that he would get the same fate that he gave her.
40:02I hope he never does come out like this.
40:05Those feelings of anger and pain are a daily part of life for Josephine's loved ones, as is the void Slayton left in their hearts.
40:22What were you robbed of when you lost Josephine?
40:28He took from me her future.
40:32I'm always going to miss her.
40:35She's with me every day.
40:37There's not a moment that doesn't go by without me thinking of her.
40:41And her parents pray that their heartbreak will be a lesson for others.
40:49Don't trust, even if you know the person for a long time, don't trust them.
40:55Think twice who you hang out with.
40:57I don't wish any mother or father to lose a child.
41:02Josephine's loved ones hope her story is a cautionary tale for other young women
41:16about the importance of protecting personal information
41:19and the potential dangers of sharing private photos.
41:24I'm Paula Zahn.
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