00:00...charged in the war. Don't, don't, don't, don't look at what's in front of you.
00:07Boo, boo, boo, boo, booming up and down again.
00:12Men, men, men, men, men go mad with...
00:17So, Danny Boyles, 28 years later, what do you think of it?
00:21Um, it was a zombie horror.
00:25It was? That's what it was?
00:27It was. Um, and that's about it.
00:32Yeah.
00:32Um, I find it quite uninspired in terms of concept and execution.
00:41Um, even as far as saying it could have been better executed,
00:49still don't think that the plot was strong.
00:51No.
00:52Even if it had have been, um...
00:58Yeah.
00:59Yeah.
00:59Yeah, okay. Um, for me, I found it really disappointing because I was really looking forward to this film.
01:05You know that, uh, I really liked the first one and I'm feeling the second one.
01:09Um, so when I seen it, I, well, first came and did, like, I strongly enjoyed the opening and, like, the first, like, 45 minutes.
01:17Mm-hmm.
01:17I was really, like, enjoying it.
01:19I thought, here we go, an actual good sequel to 20 Days Later.
01:22Mm-hmm.
01:22And then it just took a nosedive for me plot-wise and, like, in fact, like, like, the character's goals and aims just didn't match the realities of what they were capable of.
01:34Like, it just came out of Lafayette and it just didn't make any sense to me.
01:38Yeah.
01:39Um, as well, you would be more, um, you would be a bigger fan of horror than what I would.
01:47Mm-hmm.
01:47Um, but even at that, like, I can appreciate a good horror film.
01:52Um...
01:53No, there's a difference between a good horror film and a, like...
01:55A good film.
01:56Yeah.
01:56Um, I really don't think this was either.
02:00No.
02:01The only thing that really stood out to me was, um, Jodie Comer's performance.
02:05Yeah.
02:06Um, I think that, you know, mental health or illness is difficult to perform.
02:13I think she did it very, very well and she, um, clearly put a lot of thought and work into it.
02:20It was a very, um, nuanced performance.
02:22Mm-hmm.
02:23Um, and we're saying about the difference between a good horror film and just a good film.
02:27Mm-hmm.
02:28Um, is that, you know, the problem for me with this film wasn't the fact that they tried to include some, like, everyday or more normal aspects with the dystopian supernatural universe.
02:44It was just that it wasn't done well.
02:48It felt, to me, like, they had created, like you said, it had a really strong start.
02:52They created this really believable universe and this really believable world where these people loved in a believable scenario.
03:01And then they just tried to shoehorn something on.
03:03Mm-hmm.
03:04Um, whereas, like, films, other horror films that you made me watch, um, against my will.
03:12Mm-hmm.
03:12Um, like, Hereditary, that for me is an example not just of a good horror film.
03:19It's a brilliant film.
03:19It's a brilliant film.
03:21And even though I cried watching it because I was so scared after, you know, the credits had rolled and I was thinking about it after, I was like, God, um, that was amazing.
03:32Not just in terms of performance, but in terms of direction, um, in terms of style.
03:36And in Hereditary, the supernatural, whereas it was still at the forefront, the family and what they were going through was kept at the centre.
03:47Mm-hmm.
03:48The supernatural fell around that, so that's, um, you know, this mother was dealing with mental health issues, this family was dealing with a loss, they had some generational trauma, and they made that work with the supernatural.
04:02They blended really well together, and 28 years later, I feel like they tried to do that same thing, in a way, without spoiling anything, but I don't think it had a good blend, or that it carried well, because the thing I keep saying about is they created a believable universe, but then these characters just suddenly had these nearly ridiculous and unbelievable motives.
04:27Yeah. That was my biggest issue. Yeah. I still think, though, that the franchise, and even this one, to a certain extent, it has, like, the scariest, uh, depiction of, like, a zombie, or an infected outbreak, because it, it comes from an almost place of, like, you could believe this happened, and the way, like, it's just England and Ireland somehow, somewhere we're caught up on it, that are the only ones infected on the planet, and it, it almost seems believable,
04:56and it's just, like, it's just silly. It's just photos that we've got silly, or, um, like, having seen the first one, I agree that it's the scariest depiction of zombies, or depiction of an outbreak, um, and I was looking forward to seeing how they would handle, how these, do these creatures evolve,
05:26when it's years, when it's years, rather than, you know, there's 28 days, then there's 28 weeks, and now we're looking at years, and they went against what they had already, um, depicted in the existing sequel, where they said that these zombies could starve to death,
05:43Aye. And then in this one, we have these big, bloated, that's a spoiler, I can't say that, can I?
05:49I can't. Um, so they went against what was on the sequel, 28 weeks later, where these zombies were capable of starving to death, whereas in this one, they had, um, big bloated, decaying bodies crawling around eating worms.
06:04Yeah. So they were kind of disturbing their own lore, and, like, their own rules that they had set out for the universe, and then, now apparently, the infected can breed.
06:16Yeah. But the spawn are not infected, and they mention that that's to do with the placenta, and then they gave a newborn baby water.
06:26In the cinema, I want to do vomit everywhere. Yeah. At that moment, as well, you know, because a newborn baby hasn't got properly developed kidneys, and if you gave it water, you would kill it.
06:43Okay. Um. What'd you say?
06:46From my point, as being a fan of the first one, and Ken F in the second one, it seems to me that Danny Boyd kind of wanted to go into more of a fantastical, like, almost like a fantasy, or not even fantasy, but, not as a grounded version of the story as he's done in the past, and maybe, it just wasn't for me.
07:07I don't think it worked for the franchise at all, but I said, Judy.
07:12Comer.
07:13Comer. She was very good at that.
07:15And the critics disagree with us. The critics loved it.
07:18People love his phone. We actually were talking to our friends about it, the day was it, Saturday.
07:22Yeah.
07:22And they were like, what? You don't like the phone? And I was like, yeah.
07:25Yeah.
07:26I don't know, it's, it's, it's, it sounds pretentious by far. It's just a little too artsy.
07:31Mm-hmm. But that's, I was talking to you about this when we came out, is, like, an example of an artsy quarter phone that we liked recently was Nosferatu.
07:41Mm.
07:42That was extremely artsy.
07:45Yeah.
07:45But the arts served, so that, for example, was a gothic piece.
07:50Yeah.
07:50The artsiness was a gothic style.
07:54Um, I keep coming back to this word uninspired as well.
07:57Like, one example that I had discussed with you was there's a scene with a duologue between two characters. And one of my personal favourite things when I watch a film isn't watching who's speaking, but watching the people around them react to what they're saying. And in this scene, whoever was speaking, the camera just caught the being on them. That, to me, isn't creative or clever. In fact, I think it's a little boring.
08:23Mm-hmm.
08:24They'd just be, okay, now this person's talking. And now we flash over because this person's talking. And just, they did that for a whole scene.
08:30Yeah. Um, or I was saying to you about the use of the poem. This English war poem. Mm. But it didn't fit. Um, the director, in my opinion, found a poem that he liked. And it was, like, don't get me wrong.
08:46And it was, like, don't get me wrong. It created a really good atmosphere at the time. I liked it. I liked it, but it was on that one scene. And it was in all the marketing. And it didn't come back then.
08:57Yeah.
08:58For the rest of the film. And I think if you're going to use something like that, it's better used as a motif, something repetitive, something to be brought back as either tensions building or something like that.
09:10Mm-hmm. Um, like, as we know, um, they come into contact with the infected multiple times throughout the film. I think maybe what would have been a better decision there is to use that every time they were coming in contact with the infected, even just use the bait.
09:24Mm-hmm.
09:25Something like that, I think, would have been a more effective use.
09:28That would have been good, actually, yeah.
09:29Yeah.
09:29It would have been good.
09:29A big part of the film was that it was filmed entirely on iPhones. And I don't know why that was such a big part of the film. It had some nice shots, but I don't think, is that supposed to be a marketing thing? Why?
09:42I don't know. And when you see the behind-the-scenes shots as well, like, yes, they were filmed on iPhones, but the iPhones had these big, huge, massive lenses attached onto them, so you weren't really filming that with an iPhone, you were filming it with a lens, with a camera lens attached to an iPhone.
09:57We haven't really touched on the main character that much, the kid. I have his name here. Alfie Williams. I thought he was good.
10:05Mm-hmm. I think he did very well with what he was given.
10:09Yeah. He was, I mean, when there's a child actor on screen, it always irks me a bit. I don't think I'm entertaining, but I thought he was actually fairly good in this film.
10:22Mm-hmm.
10:23Uh, Aaron Tater Johnson. Was he in the film? I don't remember.
10:28He was definitely on the film. He was on the film.
10:30And he was, again, we're talking about the marketing. He was in all of the marketing, and he was on the first 20 minutes of the film, and the last five minutes of the film.
10:37Yeah.
10:38Um, same with James O'Connell.
10:42Was he in the marketing?
10:42Yeah. I don't know if he was in the marketing, but I've seen his picture circulated online in relation, like, in discussion about the film, and he was on the last, maybe two minutes.
10:53I think they were setting up for another sequel there, though.
10:55Oh, they are. There's one coming out in 20 weeks. 28 weeks.
11:00In 20, like, it's coming out in 28 weeks, think?
11:02Yeah.
11:02Okay, I'm looking forward to seeing that. I love James O'Connell.
11:04I think.
11:05He's making bank off the horror industry this year. Good for him.
11:07I need to double-check it, but, um, like, closing remarks, I just, I just didn't enjoy it as much as I really wanted it, and I think maybe that's probably mostly my fault, maybe?
11:17I don't know.
11:18Mm-hmm.
11:19Like, I'm a big fan of the first film. I seen it when I was really, really young.
11:22Yeah.
11:23When I should have seen it, and then watched it again when I was older, and loved it both times, and I really wanted it to be the big sequel to that film, and it really wasn't.
11:32Mm-hmm.
11:33I, I come with opinions like this with a different perspective than you, because I'm not necessarily a horror fan.
11:41Mm-hmm.
11:42You are. You love it. I like musicals, and cartoons.
11:48Yep.
11:49But like I said, when I see a good horror film, I love it, because I can appreciate it for what it is.
11:56No, it adds to it, it doesn't.
11:58Yeah.
11:59Um, I had that feeling with the first film.
12:03Mm-hmm.
12:04And I just didn't get it from this at all. I...
12:08Like, even the parts of the film that you're supposed to find really moving, I...
12:14I was like, I don't care.
12:15I didn't.
12:16I don't care.
12:17I found it really forced and stale.
12:21Maffenberger film.
12:23Aye.
12:24Um...
12:25Just...
12:29Quite...
12:30It sounds ridiculous to say unrealistic. It's a film about a zombie apocalypse.
12:36But I know when you're watching movies or you're reading a book or you're watching a
12:39show or something, you're supposed to suspend your belief.
12:41Mm-hmm.
12:42But you can only suspend your belief so far, especially when a franchise like this, they
12:47have set up roles for themselves. This is the third film to come from this franchise,
12:52and if you're gonna set up a role for a franchise, you have to follow through on that role, in
12:57my opinion. Otherwise, everything starts falling apart very fast for the audience, but also
13:07people who are fans of the franchise.
13:08Yeah.
13:09I'm sure.
13:10Mm-hmm.
13:11Your eyes drop, they will get atop of you. Boop, boop, boop, boop, moving up and down
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