ELIO: entrevista a su Directora y Productora

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Hablamos con Madeline Sharafian (directora) y Mary Alice Drumm (productora) sobre ELIO, la nueva película de Pixar: sus referencias al cine de ciencia ficción, la investigación de vida extraterrestre y mucho más.

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00:00Well, hello guys, it's Gonzalo from Hypertextual in Spain. First of all, congratulations because the movie is so amazing.

00:05So, I don't know, I really loved it.

00:07Thank you.

00:09The first thing I want to ask you is about the creative process of this movie because it's the first, well, I don't know if it's the first, but one of the first science fiction movies for Pixar.

00:20So I want to know how much did you have to read or study about, you know, space and astronauts and things like that?

00:26Yeah, I think for research

00:30I can talk about that

00:31Maybe Maddie can talk about films

00:33But at Pixar we always love to do a lot of research

00:36As much as we can

00:36And my joke is we wanted to go to an alien planet

00:39But we couldn't find one

00:40But we did go to military bases

00:42And we did get to go to speak to a lot of orbital analysts

00:46We talked to astronomers

00:47We talked to the SETI organization

00:49The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence

00:51And then for kind of some of the ideas

00:54For the actual aliens

00:55We looked at deep sea creatures

00:57Or microorganisms

00:58Because some of those look like aliens

01:00So if you look at like the tardigrade

01:02Or the water bear

01:03It's this tiny microorganism

01:05And that's what Glordin is based on, right?

01:07And if you go deep, deep in the sea

01:09There's a lot of creatures

01:10That are actually bioluminescent

01:13And so Harley took that

01:14And that kind of was some of the sparks

01:16That created the world for us

01:18But yeah, alien movies

01:19I mean, I'm a fan

01:20But I think Maddie's even a bigger fan

01:22Yeah, I think for me

01:24The most exciting thing

01:26About jumping into a sci-fi movie

01:28Was getting to break down

01:30The ones that I love

01:32And see like

01:33Why do they look the way that they do

01:35And why do they feel the way that they do

01:37And for us

01:39For our DPs as well

01:41Derek Williams

01:42And Jordan Rempel

01:43When we sat down and re-watched

01:46Like Close Encounters

01:48Which had a lot of things

01:49That we wanted to emulate

01:50We were like

01:51What is this

01:52Beyond just the plot

01:53Which is awesome and fun

01:54What is this flavor?

01:55Like there's just something

01:56About the atmosphere

01:57And the tone of this film

01:59That we want to capture

02:00And I remember Jordan broke down

02:02He was like

02:02Okay, they're using anamorphic lenses

02:04The shadows are deep and dark

02:06The way that things are framed

02:08And staged is very dramatic

02:09In that Spielbergian way

02:11But also there was this other thing

02:12That we were like

02:13That just kept popping up

02:15Which is in these Spielberg movies

02:17There's a lot of mist

02:18There's like atmosphere

02:20And you don't really know

02:22Where it's coming from

02:22Like you could just be

02:23In any random room

02:25In a house

02:27And there's like mist

02:28And there's just something

02:29About that

02:30It was almost like

02:31A romantic

02:32Like his sci-fi movies

02:35And a lot of the ones

02:36That Domi and I

02:37Are fans of

02:37Almost have a romance

02:38To the way that they're shot

02:40And we were really inspired

02:42By that

02:42So we took all of those elements

02:44And tried to layer them

02:46Into Elio

02:47So even if you're not

02:48Fully aware of it

02:49There's something about

02:50The look of the film

02:51That makes you reminiscent

02:52Of those

02:54You know, our favorites

02:55Like E.T.

02:56Close Encounters

02:57Even, you know, The Thing

02:58And Alien

03:00Like all of those films

03:01Had a shared visual sense

03:03That we really wanted

03:04To try to capture

03:05How amazing is that?

03:08This is precisely

03:09What I wanted to ask you now

03:10Because this movie

03:11Is full of references

03:13For another science fiction movie

03:14As a science fiction nerd

03:17I loved it

03:17Yeah

03:18I wanted to ask you

03:19Which ones were

03:20Your favorite ones?

03:22Which ones that you

03:23When you were doing the movie

03:24You were thinking

03:25Like, this has to be there

03:26This has to be there

03:27Yeah

03:27I think for us

03:29The

03:29The clone character

03:33Elio's clone

03:34Really got us

03:35You know

03:35Put us in mind

03:36Of The Thing

03:37And

03:38And just those

03:39Classic alien sci-fi

03:41Horror moments

03:42Of like

03:42You're living with something

03:44That's not

03:44That's not a human

03:46That's not a person

03:47And we loved the idea

03:48That while Elio's having

03:49You know

03:50His beautiful grand adventure

03:51In space

03:51That Olga's kind of living

03:52In a more horrifying version

03:55Of a sci-fi movie

03:56But since you get the chance

03:58To meet the clone

03:59Before

04:00You know

04:01Before you enter that

04:02That

04:02You know

04:02Second B plot

04:04You know

04:05As the audience

04:05He's a nice guy

04:06I've met him

04:07You know

04:07He's sweet

04:08Olga has nothing to worry about

04:10But Olga doesn't know that

04:11And I feel like

04:11There's a lot of humor

04:12In watching her

04:14Slowly discover

04:15You know

04:15This isn't my boy

04:17And it also served

04:18A great

04:19Character development purpose

04:21As Olga realizes

04:23That she did know Elio

04:25Better than she thought

04:26And she was a good parent

04:28And she had all those tools

04:30As she realizes that

04:31You know

04:32Maybe she's living

04:32With a pod person

04:34So those

04:35Those scenes

04:36Were some of the most fun

04:37To make

04:38And to really crank

04:39The

04:40Sci-fi

04:42Thriller

04:44Wheel

04:45All the way

04:45To 11

04:46So yeah

04:47Those are some

04:47Of our favorites

04:48Yeah I love

04:49How knowledgeable

04:50Maddie and Domi are

04:51And then how they

04:51Take some of the tropes

04:52And turn them upside down

04:54Like the abduction scene

04:55We've seen it a million times

04:56Before

04:56But their idea

04:58Of like he wants

04:58To be abducted

04:59It's just

05:00It's just classic

05:01It's just

05:01It's taking something

05:03And plussing it

05:04And that's what they do

05:04Throughout the whole movie

05:05Yeah and it works

05:06It works

05:07It works

05:07Amazingly

05:08Now let's go

05:10To the other side

05:10Because now I want

05:11To ask you guys

05:11Which was the

05:12The hardest part

05:13Of making this movie

05:14Because of course

05:15Making a movie

05:16Is never easy

05:17But if you had to say

05:19That this was

05:19That thing

05:21That was particularly

05:22Hard for you guys

05:22Which one was it

05:23Yeah I think

05:25Time

05:26For a production

05:27It's always time

05:28And trying to give

05:29Maddie and Domi

05:30As much time

05:30With the story

05:31And I think the story

05:32Is always a focus

05:33At Pixar

05:34It's the main focus

05:35Right Maddie

05:36Yeah I think for us

05:38The hardest part

05:40Was helping the audience

05:42Understand as quickly

05:44As possible

05:44Why Elio loved space

05:46So much

05:47We knew on paper

05:48About you know

05:50His background

05:50His loss of his parents

05:52And we kept trying

05:54To explain it

05:54With dialogue

05:55But there's just

05:56Something that wasn't

05:57Clicking

05:57And we showed it

05:58To audiences

05:58And they were like

05:59Yeah I love it

06:00But I don't get it

06:01Like there's

06:02There was just

06:02Something they were missing

06:03And they think

06:04You know

06:04They were like

06:05What if we see

06:05A montage

06:06Of his life

06:07And we're like

06:07No you think

06:08You want that

06:08But you don't

06:09So we had to

06:10We had to

06:12This prologue scene

06:14That appears

06:15At the very beginning

06:15Of the film

06:16Was something

06:17That came very late

06:19And it was

06:21It came from

06:22A story artist

06:23On the team

06:24Named Dan Park

06:25Who was pitching

06:27The idea of a planetarium

06:28As a really visual

06:30Way to show

06:31Elio fall in love

06:32With space

06:34And we love

06:35How it eases

06:37The audience

06:37Into the film

06:38It's not super

06:40Dialogue heavy

06:40And it's really

06:41All about feeling

06:42And not about

06:43Exposition

06:44Or dialogue

06:45Which we had been

06:46Kind of stuck on before

06:47So once we placed

06:49That scene

06:49In a lot of other

06:51Things started

06:52To fall into place

06:54But that took

06:55A really long time

06:56And only came together

06:57Truly in the final

06:58Moments

06:59Which is sort of terrifying

07:00But at least

07:01We did it

07:02Smart move

07:04Because it's so beautiful

07:05It's an amazing

07:06Start for the movie

07:07Now I want to ask you

07:08About the

07:09I'm really interested

07:10In both of your perspectives

07:11As director and producer

07:13Because I want to ask you

07:14About the actual situation

07:15At Pixar

07:16Because

07:17From now on

07:19I think

07:19We are going to have

07:20Several sequels

07:22Instead of

07:23Original Mobile

07:23So I would like to

07:24Hear your take on that

07:26Because we have

07:26Third story

07:27Incredibles Coco

07:28Yeah

07:30I think at Pixar

07:32We talk about

07:32How we're always

07:33Trying to do a balance

07:34Because you know

07:35As a movie goer

07:36I might be like

07:37Wow there's so many sequels

07:38But then someone says

07:40Coco too

07:40I'm like

07:40Oh my god

07:41I want to see Coco too

07:42So I love working at Pixar

07:44Because we do a balance

07:45And so I think

07:47We've announced

07:48Some sequels

07:48But we're still

07:49Making great originals

07:50The next movie

07:51Coming out after us

07:52Has been announced

07:53Called Hoppers

07:54Which we're big fans of

07:55So it's always a balance

07:57And I think

07:58At the end of the day

07:59For us

08:00It's all about

08:01Creating amazing characters

08:02So Inside Out 2

08:03Is a sequel

08:04But you get a new character

08:05Of anxiety

08:06That you fall in love with

08:07And I think

08:08For Elio

08:08We feel like

08:09Lorden

08:09And other characters

08:10We're making

08:11Are characters

08:12That people hopefully

08:13Will fall in love with

08:14Yeah

08:15We're very

08:16I think very clear

08:17And we talk about it

08:18As a studio

08:18That originality

08:20Is a really big part

08:22Of why Pixar

08:22Exists and was successful

08:24In the first place

08:25But yeah

08:26Like Mary Alice said

08:27I would say

08:28Toy Story 3

08:29Is one of my favorite movies

08:30We've ever made

08:31So I think

08:31There is

08:32As long as we keep

08:34Our bar for quality

08:36As high as we can

08:38And we approach

08:38Originals and sequels

08:40With the same level

08:41Of you know

08:43Caution

08:45And make sure

08:46That we're jumping

08:46Through all the hoops

08:47That we need to jump through

08:48To make it worthy

08:50As a standalone

08:51I think you know

08:53Hopefully we're still

08:53On the path

08:54To make amazing movies

08:55Whichever one

08:57They happen to be

08:58But we're still

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