Jalen Ramsey AND Jonnu Smith traded - Minkah is back in Miami! REACTION to Dolphins & Steelers trade - video Dailymotion

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Immediate reaction from Hoch, Crowder and Solana on the Dolphins blockbuster trade today.

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00:00So, it has happened, the Jalen Ramsey trade happened, and then it's not like what you

00:06thought it was going to be, which, you know, it was like, oh, a fourth round draft pick

00:11and a couple of pick swaps, like this has turned into something pretty wild.

00:17So, Jalen Ramsey goes to Pittsburgh, and so does Jonu Smith, by the way.

00:21What Pittsburgh is putting together is something else, man.

00:26They think they've got their window, and they are going for it.

00:30They have one hellified roster, if you think the quarterback position is part of the hellified

00:38roster, but Jonu Smith, Jalen Ramsey, they go to Pittsburgh, Minka Fitzpatrick is a dolphin

00:48again, and then there were a couple of pick swaps as well.

00:52Here's just a couple of the reactions on Twitter.

00:55Armando Salguero said, gotta say, and Dolphins fans will not agree, but Chris Greer turned

01:03a terrible situation in which everyone knew he had to trade Ramsey and gets back a younger

01:11player, the organization, minus Brian Flores, loved years ago and is salvaging the situation

01:19the Dolphins could be winning.

01:22Now, I don't know if that's the prevailing thought.

01:25I haven't looked at much of social media, and I haven't listened to any of sports radio.

01:31The part that annoys me is the Jonu Smith portion of it, because essentially you traded

01:36Jonu Smith and Jalen Ramsey for Minka Fitzpatrick.

01:40So that's really the nuts and bolts of the deal.

01:43A couple of things.

01:46Eric Lawson, your former producer on the Coop and Crowder show, tweeted out, Tua and Minka

01:55doing interviews together, bleeping on Brian Flores.

01:58That I'm looking forward to.

02:00I am totally down with that, Lawson.

02:02That's going to happen, and I'm totally down with that.

02:05Um, there was Adam Schefter.

02:09This is a little worrying.

02:11Jalen Ramsey is now the fourth Dolphins captain from last season, no longer on the team in

02:172025, joining Teron Armstead, Calais Campbell, and David Long Jr.

02:22Now, you may say, hey, the team was no good, and there were a lot of issues behind the scenes,

02:28so it's great to get rid of all the captains.

02:30The only thing I would say is, though, those captains were quality guys, so maybe it is

02:37so out of control at the Dolphins organization, even guys like Teron Armstead and Calais Campbell,

02:43who you would imagine have a ton of respect and are just quality guys.

02:47I don't know much about David Long Jr., but I do think that might be the warning sign that,

02:55hey, there were some quality captains there, and they're gone.

03:00Um, and then there was Raheem Mostert, who happens to be a real quality dude.

03:06I love Raheem Mostert.

03:08He tweeted out, hot take, be a pro bowler on the Dolphins, get treated like bleep.

03:16Happy for my guys, though.

03:17Go ball out.

03:20First off, you get one of the top three safeties in the world back,

03:24and I don't know if I know Jonu and, you know, Jonu and Jalen are guaranteed starters.

03:30They're great players.

03:31Jalen Ram is the first ballot Hall of Famer.

03:33You know, Jonu had a good end of the season last year.

03:36The captain thing, I don't like to look into stuff that deep about the captain

03:40because it's really, you know, the players vote on it.

03:43It's usually guys, older guys on the team, the ones that's been around and all that,

03:46you know, Calais and Teron.

03:48But all the stories that have come out over the last year or two,

03:53I would say the captaincy of that team wasn't that strong and the guys didn't respect it.

03:58We talked about it.

03:59The coming late thing and all that, you don't come on time for Mike McDaniel.

04:03You come on time for your leaders.

04:05And those guys didn't give a damn about what Teron and Calais and David Long,

04:09who got cut in midseason, which is crazy, Sid.

04:11And so I think we're not doing too much looking into the thing about all the captains being gone.

04:17And then Raheem Oster's right.

04:18He balled out the Dolphins and they're going to try to use you as an entity, which you already are.

04:22But hold on a second.

04:24And I love Raheem too.

04:25Hawk, you know, part of the best Dolphins team in my lifetime, probably.

04:29But correct me if I'm wrong.

04:31Jalen Ramsey, Tyree Kill, Tua Tunga-Vailoa, Jalen Waddle all played like pro bowlers a couple seasons ago.

04:38And Chris Queer threw them a ton of money.

04:40See, Jalen Ramsey wanted, I assume, to get paid a little bit more.

04:45Or maybe he just wasn't thrilled with the direction of this organization.

04:48Maybe there was something behind the scenes.

04:49We know that.

04:50He got $1.5 million more from the Pittsburgh Steelers for this upcoming season than he would have made in Miami.

04:58That's significant enough to where he's going to throw a tirade and force a deal.

05:02No, he just clearly didn't want to be here.

05:04Chris Queer and the Dolphins gave all these guys their money.

05:07Maybe not Raheem Mostert, sorry.

05:08If you're 30 years old, become a pro bowl, you're not going to get paid.

05:13I totally agree with you.

05:14I know why Mostert felt that way, obviously.

05:17He had one of the best seasons a back has ever had for the Dolphins and wasn't rewarded for it, right?

05:24Was he cut the next season?

05:25Correct.

05:26His playing time diminished, and then he was gone.

05:29He let the league in rushing touchdowns, and they gave up on him the next year after a couple fumbles.

05:34I get why he's upset, but he is incorrect.

05:37They have taken care of their pro bowlers probably better than they should have been,

05:42and they wouldn't be in the mess that they're in.

05:44And regardless, I think that's more of a story as to what is going on behind the scenes there when a quality dude like Raheem Mostert,

05:56because you don't hear him talk that way about anything.

05:58That's not his personality normally.

06:00So, he got a chance here to bleep on the organization.

06:05He took it.

06:05I got no problem with that, because I thought that they jettisoned him a little too early.

06:10I thought that was a little cutesy on their part.

06:13But regardless, I don't agree with his assertion that, you know, if you're a pro bowler, you get treated like bleep,

06:20because I think you got rewarded.

06:22Like, Solana gave you the examples.

06:24Like, guys got rewarded for having great seasons.

06:27They ended up drawing the line with Jonu Smith.

06:30Jonu Smith, they drew the line.

06:32I don't know what Jalen Ramsey wanted.

06:35Obviously, they were at loggerheads about something, because I'm with you.

06:38To leave Miami to go to Pittsburgh for a million and a half dollars more

06:41doesn't seem like it was a $10 million standstill that they were at.

06:46Jonu was about money.

06:48Jonu was in the 30s, 30th paid tight end.

06:51He was a pro bowler.

06:52It was about money for him.

06:54Jalen wanted to leave.

06:55Even to the time it happened, they still had negotiation time.

06:59We heard he wanted to leave multiple, you know, agreeing to part ways.

07:03That was in the middle of the summer sometime, early summer, where he didn't want to be here anymore.

07:08So is Raheem a little butthurt, as they say?

07:11Yes.

07:12But is there a problem with the captaincy and the leadership on this team?

07:16I think both could be true, and I think that's a yes as well.

07:19On paper, I understand why a Dolphins fan would look at today and say, hold on a second.

07:23We traded our best cornerback, probably our only cornerback before the Minka trade, right?

07:29Our only DB who is good.

07:32I mean, go look at the rest of the DBs.

07:34Like, it's a scary sight.

07:35And the most productive part of our offense a season ago, and all we got back was a fifth

07:41round pick for next season and another starting safety and Minka Fitzpatrick.

07:46Like, we essentially got Minka for two of our best players.

07:48And on the surface, I understand why that's confusing.

07:51But Hawk and Crowder, we've talked about this several times now.

07:54Chris Greer did not approach this offseason with a bleep you mentality.

07:58I'm going all in to win.

08:00And I think he needs to be applauded for that.

08:04I mean, as much as I have my gripes with Chris Greer, like he's trying to set this team up,

08:11whether he's here or not, to have a better opportunity to compete and to add pieces in the future.

08:19And I think that's something that needs to be applauded because this trade aligns with that thinking.

08:24He's not going all in.

08:25He traded for a 28-year-old.

08:27I don't necessarily think that's true.

08:29First of all, I think Minka's got one year left on his contract, so I'm not necessarily certain

08:33how much you're preparing for the future with him.

08:36Jalen wanted out.

08:37Chris Greer had no choice in the matter.

08:39So his hands were tied.

08:41It's kind of what Armando Salguero tweeted there is like, here's a guy he knew he had to trade him,

08:46ended up with something good for at least a season.

08:49But I'm not necessarily certain what you're saying rings true to me.

08:52I like Chris Greer, but I don't think he's putting together building blocks.

08:57I think he's trying to keep a ship together that he had already built without it completely

09:03falling apart.

09:04The way I see it is he's kind of doing this right now because so many pieces like Calais

09:11Campbell and Teron Armstead and then Jalen Ramsey, you know, and it was like, okay, I mean,

09:17where can I, where can I stem the, the leaking here?

09:20And he had no choice with Jalen Ramsey ends up getting someone decent in return.

09:24There's no question, but I don't think he's setting up for the future.

09:27But Solana, do you, do you applaud somebody for solving a problem?

09:31They caused he, he, and to, to, to, to Hawks analogy, he shot the cannon through the side

09:37of the boat and now he's passing up the hole.

09:39Oh, thanks.

09:40Chris Greer.

09:40You're a pit.

09:41He shot the damn cannon.

09:42You shouldn't accept the cannon.

09:43He put all those bad contracts.

09:45The ones you brought up, he shouldn't have paid Tyreek and Waddle both $30 million a year.

09:50He re-upped Tua a year later, could have done earlier, saved more money.

09:53A lot of his mistakes.

09:55Now he has to backpedal off of them.

09:57And also the organization has vets that are unhappy being here.

10:01Jalen Ramsey.

10:01And I think if Calais Campbell's time with the Dolphins was different, I think he would

10:08have not went back to Arizona.

10:09I think he would have ended his career here if he thought that the Dolphins organization

10:12had a chance to win something.

10:13But that's my, that's, I think where I'm operating from.

10:16By the way, Omar Kelly texted me that Minka has two years left on his deal, but he'll

10:19probably want a restructured deal because there's no more guaranteed money left.

10:24But here's what I don't say, don't say, and we just have a safety Minka Fitzpatrick

10:28on the top three safeties in the world.

10:29Well, he's coming off and, and look, who knows what happens?

10:32He's 28 years old.

10:33He's coming off statistically his worst season last year.

10:36That doesn't mean he's going to be bad.

10:37That doesn't mean there's a precipitous drop off.

10:39He could have a bounce back year next year.

10:41Like I'm sure there's a lot of context behind it, but that's a fact.

10:44He's coming off his worst statistical year last year, but here's where I'm operating

10:48from as far as Chris Greer and why I had that take coming into this year.

10:53Correct me if I'm wrong.

10:53It was Chris Greer, Mike McDaniel for their lives, for their careers, potentially Chris

11:00Greer, certainly right.

11:01This season is literally is going to decide whether or not they will keep their jobs next

11:07season.

11:07When you're entering a season like that, you put everything you possibly have, every resource

11:14into this season.

11:17And I don't believe Chris Greer, and it may end up costing them is operating the franchise

11:22that way.

11:24And I think in what, like, why wouldn't he be that?

11:27That's a, it's a critical take by you.

11:29Like what would they have done?

11:31Well, what would they have done that they haven't done?

11:33Like, what did they pass on?

11:34You, you, you trade some of your draft assets prior to this NFL draft to try to go get some

11:40veteran guys to try to bolster your defense.

11:44But what I'm saying is who's to say that they didn't try to do that.

11:47Like, it's possible.

11:48It's possible.

11:49I think you're creating something that, that just, it doesn't exist.

11:52I believe that they would do anything.

11:55Now, I think it's coming from above them.

11:58No more renegotiating contracts.

12:00If we've just done the contract a year ago.

12:04Something along those lines that would lead me to believe what went on with Jonu Smith,

12:08right?

12:08Because he did have the most productive offensive season that you could ask.

12:13But I think my guest, Steven Ross was tired of that.

12:16Like, Hey, anytime.

12:17So like, I don't want to set this precedent that that's all we do.

12:20Jalen Ramsey went deeper, obviously, and he wanted out, but I, I don't, I, I don't believe

12:28that Chris Greer is knowingly playing some sort of long game.

12:33I think Chris Greer is playing the hand that he dealt himself.

12:36And by the way, I've been a supporter of, I, I, I like him.

12:40I was the guy at the, at the end of the season who said, yeah, keep McDaniel, keep Greer, keep

12:45Tua.

12:45I like our big three and I still feel that way, but I don't think he's doing anything

12:50where you're like, wow, look at him.

12:53He is setting them up.

12:54Like, I don't think so at all.

12:56I think that guy would take anyone or anybody who wanted to play here.

13:00And if he was forced, like he was with Jalen to get rid of him, he did.

13:05And I will tell you again with Jalen, I kind of agree with Armando Salguero.

13:09I was expecting, oh, he got a fourth round pick in return for Jalen Ramsey.

13:14That's a bummer, but that's what the market bears.

13:16He ended up getting Minka Fitzpatrick, the Jonu Smith thing.

13:20My expectation was it was going to be a holdout or something of the sort, because I didn't see

13:25them budging because I don't think they're going to give someone an extension who had one

13:31good season.

13:32I think they're done with that.

13:34So I didn't, I, I expected more of a holdout situation.

13:37They're not going to budge.

13:38And Jonu, who's his agent?

13:40Is it Drew Rosenhouse?

13:41Yes.

13:42He's not going to budge.

13:44And so instead they also had to give up Jonu Smith.

13:47That's going to be a bummer.

13:48But if they bring in Kyle Pitts, I wouldn't be upset.

13:51Like, I feel like you could, uh, you could make something good out there.

13:56So they'll obviously be in the market for a tight end and, uh, we'll see what happens.

14:00And I do believe they're trying to change their, uh, their team thought, I guess they're,

14:08their assumption of what they are.

14:10There's, you know, the soft team that pays everybody.

14:12I think they're trying to change that with their additions in the draft, a thousand pounds

14:16of man in the first three rounds.

14:18Everybody said they're soft, which I agree.

14:20They're a very graceful team.

14:22Changing that, changing that narrative of it.

14:24You are not going to be soft upstairs or on the field.

14:27And I think they're trying to do that as well.

14:29I say it all the time.

14:31I know Chris Greer personally.

14:33He's a good human being.

14:34I think he's made a lot of mistakes with the Austin Jacksons and the Patrick Pauls.

14:38Are they ready to play?

14:39Liam Eikenberg still on this damn roster.

14:41Like he's made a lot of mistakes that he tried to make up for while also paying the stars.

14:46But like, you're not getting deals.

14:48He didn't get a deal on Tyreek.

14:50There was no deal on Waddle.

14:51There was no deal on Tua.

14:52There was no deal on Ramsey.

14:54There was no deal.

14:54He's not, he's not for manipulating the cap.

14:58He's paying guys a bunch of money.

15:00And like Hawk said, I think he said, we can't just keep throwing $30 million at everybody.

15:04But after you do that last year, now it's the season where if you don't win, the owner

15:09already said status quo is not good enough.

15:12You go pay Jair Alexander.

15:14He got $6 million from the Baltimore Ravens.

15:16And we need a cornerback because right now, Storm Duck is the cornerback with literally

15:23the most experience outside of Keter Kohu who's not going to, you know, he's going to play

15:28in a slot.

15:30You go pay Jair Alexander $10 million if you need to.

15:32Like that's, that's what you do in that position.

15:35And he's not doing it.

15:36Again, again, I would submit to you that it's not because they don't want to.

15:39It's because they couldn't get stuff done.

15:41There's nobody on earth who works for a living who would say to themselves, you know what?

15:46The more prudent thing here is to set this up for someone else because I'm not very good

15:51at it.

15:51So let me just kind of go out with a whimper this season, but the I'll do the organization

15:57right.

15:58Like no chance.

15:59It just, it just life doesn't work that way.

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