00:00And then we also have this other area, which is the kind of non-crime stuff, which has increased over the years.
00:06Which is nuts, right?
00:07Stop policing Twitter, actually.
00:09Well, that's a part of it.
00:11That's a part of it.
00:11Oh, yeah.
00:12It's to stop going after people for tweets.
00:15Well, I think police need to make sure they've got their priorities right.
00:17And I think there have been some particularly egregious examples of, you know, big overreach in that regard.
00:22And I think the police would say, well, some of our laws probably do need updating on this.
00:26They're not fit for the Internet age.
00:28But it's not just that, you know, it's about mental health cases, about children missing from care homes.
00:32That's what I spent a lot of my career dealing with.
00:34So we've got to be kind of, we've got to be kind of having this discussion.
00:39I feel sorry.
00:39The police, because when they're knocking on doors with parents over a WhatsApp group, you know, and they cause a big round of press, undermines trust in the police.
00:47I think we've got to be clear this way.
00:48I'll sum it up.
00:49We've got to be clear about where we think people are acting in a way that we don't like.
00:54Can I say they're being a bit of an arse on your podcast?
00:57The word arse is acceptable.
00:58Yeah.
01:00And where that goes into what we want to be a police matter.
01:04And I think at the moment, the threshold has probably been set a little bit too low.
01:08And we're asking police to get involved with people who are being a bit of an arse, but probably don't need the police knocking at them.
01:13And stop doing that.
01:14I mean, even Keir Starmer talked about this back when he was DPP, Director of Public Prosecutions.
01:18He said people do silly, silly tweets and are a bit drunk.
01:22Let's let them delete it the next day and move on.
01:24I think there's a lot to be said for that.
01:25I think it's happened.
01:26There's a woman being jailed.
01:27I mean, famously, of course, about with some extremely, I always say inflammatory remarks on Twitter, but she regretted them.
01:33But despite being put in prison for it.
01:35There's always going to be kind of contested discussion about where that line should be.
01:40But yeah, as I say, I think we need to make sure it's a little bit higher.
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