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00:00ڈی پی آئی
00:30پاکستان پہلے دس سب سے زیادہ غیر محفوظ ممالک میں شامل ہے
00:34پچھلی دو دہائیوں میں سو سے زائد موسمی واقعات میں پاکستان میں تقریباً دس ہزار سے زائد لوگ اپنی زندگی کما چکے ہیں
00:44جبکہ پاکستان کو چار بلین ڈالر کا نقصان ہوا ہے
00:48کبھی لوگ سیلاب یا قدرتی آفات سے تنگ آ کر اپنا گھر بدل دیتے ہیں
00:52تو کبھی روزگار نہ ہونی کی صورت میں جرم کا راستہ اختیار کر لیتے ہیں
00:56آج ان سب مسائل پر گفتگو کرنے کیلئے نے دعوت دی ہے ملک امین اسلم کو جو کہ سابق وفاقی وزیر برائے محولیات رہ چکے ہیں
01:05موسمیاتی تبدیلی کلائمٹ چینج
01:07ایک تو اس کے حوالے سے سوالات کافی زیادہ ہیں سوسائیٹی کے اندر
01:12کتنا سیریس چیلنج ہے
01:14اثرات تو نظر آتے ہیں لیکن اس کے اوپر کوئی ڈسکشن نہیں ہوتی
01:17آپ اپنے نظریہ کے حوالے سے بتائیں
01:19جی بسم اللہ الرحمن الرحیم شکریہ آپ نے پروگرام پر بلایا
01:22دیکھیں جو موسمیاتی تبدیلی اور جو کلائمٹ چینج کا ایش ہو یہ تمام دنیا کے لیے ایک بہت بڑا چیلنج ہے
01:27لیکن پاکستان تو ان ممالک کے اندر شامل ہے جو کہ اس کے بالکل فرنٹ لائن کے اوپر ہیں
01:32اور ابھی جو ریسنٹ کلائمٹ رسک انڈیکس رپورٹ نکلی ہے
01:35اس کے مطابق دوزار بائیس میں پاکستان دنیا میں نمبر بانتا
01:38جب ہمارا وہ ایسا سلاب آیا جس نے تباہی مجھا دی
01:42اور وہ اس کو دنیا کا ہسٹری کا سب سے بورا اور سب سے مہنگا نیچرل ڈیزاسٹر کا جا رہا ہے
01:49تقریباً تیس ارب ڈالر کا تکمیزہ لگایا گیا
01:52لیکن یہ صرف ون آف نہیں تھا
01:55پاکستان میں ایک سال کا یہ مسئلہ نہیں ہے
01:56پچھلے پوری دہائی کے اندر جو پاکستان کونٹینویسلی جو ٹاپ ٹین کنٹریز ان میں شمار ہوتا ہے
02:03جو اس سے متاثر ہیں
02:04اور اس کی وجہ بھی اسی ریپورٹ میں دی گئی ہے
02:06اس ریپورٹ میں یہ بتایا گیا ہے کہ جو ٹاپ فائیو ایمپیکٹس ہیں
02:11جو موسم تبدیل ہو رہا ہے اس کے جو ایمپیکٹس ہیں
02:13اس کے اندر سب سے بڑا سلاب ہے
02:15اس کے بعد آپ کا خوشک سالی ہے
02:18جس سے آپ کی سب سے زیادہ جو سوشل ایمپیکٹ کرتا ہے
02:23یہ پاکستان ہے ایک اگری کلچر کنٹری
02:26اور اس وقت ہم ایک ڈراؤٹ پوزیشن میں ہیں
02:28ہمارے دو پروونسز نے ایکچلی ڈراؤٹ ڈیکلیئر کیا ہوا ہے
02:31تیسرا جو اس میں بڑا ایمپیکٹ ہے وہ ہے
02:35آپ کی فورس فائرز
02:37اگین پاکستان اس کی زادہ میں ہے
02:39چوتھا جو ہے اس کو ایکنومک جو فال آؤٹ ہے اس چیز کا
02:44اس کو کہتے ہیں
02:45اور جو ایکنومک فال آؤٹ ہے بہت بڑا ہے پاکستان میں
02:48وہ لنک ہوتا ہے آپ کے انفرسٹرکچر کے ساتھ
02:50کہ جب کلائمیٹ جی جاتا ہے
02:51تو وہ پھر ایمپیکٹ کیسے کرتا ہے آپ کے انفرسٹرکچر کو
02:54اور ستر فیصد جو ایمپیکٹ ہے وہ اس کی ویسے ہوتا ہے
02:57سوشل ایمپیکٹ کی حوالے سے بات کی
03:01ایکنومک ایمپیکٹ کے حوالے سے بات کی
03:03لیکن پاکستان کو ایک بہت بڑا پرابلم جو ہے وہ سیکیورٹی کا ہے
03:07میں چاہتا ہوں کہ آپ ذرے ایکسپلین کریں
03:10کہ جو سیکیورٹی چیلنجز ڈیریکٹلی کلائمیٹ چینج کے ساتھ جو ہیں
03:14لگے ہوئے جڑے ہوئے
03:15وہ کس طرح عابطر ہوں گے اگر اس سیچوئیشن کو کنٹرول نہ کی
03:18جی بالکل میں ایک تو وہ جو آپ کو میں پانچ ایمپیکٹ بتا رہا تھا
03:21اس میں آخری ہیٹ ویوز ہے
03:22ہیٹ ویوز جو ہے وہ سب سے زیادہ جان لے واقع ہے
03:26اور پاکستان نے اس کو اس پہ بھی ہم فرنٹ لائن پہ ہیں
03:30ورلڈ بینک کی ایک رپورٹ آئی جس میں نے انہوں بتایا
03:32کہ دوزار تیس تک ہمارے دس ڈسٹرکٹس
03:34وہ اتنے زیادہ متاثر ہوں گے
03:36کہ وہاں پر ہیومن لائف
03:38ناممکن ہو جائے گی
03:40اور یہ کس جگہ بڑھ رہے ہیں
03:41یہ ان میں سے چھے جو ہیں وہ صدن پجاب میں ہیں
03:43اور چار جو ہیں وہ سندھ کے اندر ہیں
03:45اور ان کے اندر اتنی گرمی پڑے گی
03:48کہ وہاں پر انسانوں کا رہنا محال ہو جائے گا
03:51اب آپ نے جو سوال کیا سیکیورٹی کا
03:53وہ لنکٹ ہے سارے ایسیو کے ساتھ
03:55یہ جو میں نے آپ کو پانچ ایمپیکٹس بتائی ہے
03:57اس رپورٹ کے اندر
03:58پاکستان ان ملکوں میں ہے
04:02یہ پانچوں کے پانچوں ایمپیکٹس
04:04یہ کار فرما ہو رہے ہیں
04:05کئی ملکوں میں ایک ہوتا ہے
04:06کئی میں دو ہوتا ہے
04:07ہمارے پاس پانچوں ہیں
04:08جو کار فرما ہو رہے ہیں
04:09اس کے لیے ہمیں تیار ہونا ہے
04:10اور ہمیں اس کو ایکسپٹ کرنا ہے
04:12اور اس کے لیے تیار ہونا ہے
04:14جو آپ نے سیکیورٹی کی بات کی ہے
04:16وہ ایک نیا فرنٹیر ایک
04:17دیکھیں اس کا جو ایکیلوجیکل ایمپیکٹ ہے
04:20کہ انوارمنٹ کے اوپر کیا اثرات ہے
04:22That's why it was very research.
04:24The economic impact on the economic impact,
04:26and the economic impact on the economic impact.
04:28There is also been reported that
04:30in 2030-2035,
04:32it is about 8% of the GDP,
04:34and it is about 20% of the GDP.
04:38This is also about social impact.
04:40It also shows that people are affected.
04:42We saw that there was about 30 crores
04:46of the population of the government,
04:48migrants have been made.
04:50Yeah.
04:51Yeah.
04:52But the security aspect is the most important thing to understand.
04:55Because climate change affects resource scarcity.
04:58Because when the weather changes, the temperature changes and the water changes.
05:05And the two of them are directly linked to the temperature and the water.
05:11So the impact of the agriculture, the impact of the water changes.
05:16And after that, when the population is increasing, the population will increase.
05:21So that will lead to either conflict or terrorism.
05:25So now there is a lot of research on this.
05:27And again, in Pakistan, there is a recent research paper.
05:30In Pakistan and Nigeria, they have studied the comparative study.
05:36That both of them have affected the climate change.
05:41And whether these two are conflict and terrorism.
05:44So they are challenged and the base of mows and the Olympics are in the future.
05:49So luckily, I would say that today I would have decided that there is a huge conflict.
05:53In Pakistan, we have a very resilient helcary.
05:58And it was a huge problem.
06:00We saw that this threshold could cross the surface.
06:03It has no meaning of the threshold.
06:05will be based on water
06:33and if you look at it, there is a water agreement in India.
06:48There are water agreements in the world.
06:50It is almost.
06:53It is almost.
06:55Yeah, I'll tell you, the report was almost six months ago,
07:00which was the case of the Himalian watershed,
07:05which is currently the two Arabs feed the water, 80% of the water.
07:09The year 25% of the water was reduced.
07:13When the water was reduced, this was 80% of water.
07:17Clean drinking water.
07:18Clean drinking water.
07:19The water was reduced to 25% of water.
07:24This is a big reason.
07:25In Pakistan, we have seen two provinces already announced that the amount of water has been
07:31here.
07:32This is just the same.
07:35This is just the same.
07:37In India, Bangladesh, it is also the same.
07:39The solution is not that you can remove the pistols and the other side of the side of the
07:43fire.
07:44India has tried to make a mistake and then the answer to it is the same.
07:48The solution is that you can share your data and go to the diplomacy and go to the
07:53we are lucky that we have a agreement in the industry water treaty which was two
08:00wars.
08:01but now we have an agreement going.
08:03Now it's worth a sense that we have a mindset to this whole two Arab people.
08:10A illogical explanation.
08:11Illogical explanation.
08:12Illogical explanation.
08:13Illogical explanation.
08:14Illogical explanation.
08:15Illogical explanation.
08:16Now we have the time to deal with this.
08:19Thank you very much.
08:49Thank you very much.
09:19One of those countries,
09:20which is a very similar population of youth in 18-32 years,
09:24a very similar population.
09:27How are we going to manage this?
09:29What do we need to do to do this?
09:30Look, the climate change has a big challenge and a big threat to Pakistan.
09:35There is also a opportunity with climate change.
09:37The opportunity is that Pakistan has successfully accessed the climate finance.
09:43I have access to this.
09:44I will give you some examples.
09:45World Bank is an Arab dollar program for a 10-year-old program.
09:50It is based on climate resilience.
09:52The IMF has given you the 1.4 billion dollars to the climate fund.
09:58It is based on climate resilience.
09:59It is based on climate resilience.
10:00It is based on climate resilience.
10:01It is based on climate resilience.
10:02It is based on climate resilience.
10:03It is based on climate resilience.
10:05It is based on climate resilience.
10:17climate resilience
10:19climate resilience infrastructure
10:21climate resilience
10:23climate resilience
10:25climate resilience
10:25accept
10:28climate change
10:29agriculture
10:33agriculture
10:34infrastructure
10:36at risk
10:37future
10:38now
10:39the challenge
10:40the world
10:41has to pay
10:41to prioritize
10:43properly
10:44the country
10:46priorities
10:46and then
10:48projectize
10:49and properly
10:50utilize
10:51these are the three steps
10:52and this is a big challenge
10:53so that we have
10:55to develop capacity
10:56and where the opportunity
10:58is that our youth
10:59is not in all
11:00in all of us
11:01in all of us
11:02and in all of us
11:04we need innovative solutions
11:05for clean energy
11:06solutions
11:07I give you an example
11:08that the solar revolution
11:10came in Pakistan
11:11and the whole world
11:12sat down
11:13and said
11:13that it happened
11:14that there was no solar
11:16and in one year
11:17the fastest
11:18update of solar
11:19in the world
11:19was about 4,000
11:21megawatt
11:21and 17,000
11:23megawatt
11:23solar panel
11:24imported
11:24in Pakistan
11:25this is a revolution
11:28but the opportunity
11:30is the same
11:31that you can see
11:32that if you give an economic signal
11:34here
11:34you can see
11:35that the energy
11:36will be
11:36there will be
11:36there will be
11:37there will be
11:38a solution
11:39and the other way
11:40we give an economic signal
11:40and the other way
11:41we give an solution
11:41and the other way
11:42uh mitigation
11:43ki johan loog ya wo khud usko opteik
11:46kar lenge ab electric vehicles ke inder again
11:48baut bori opportunity hai clean energy ke inder opportunity hai
11:51dunia ke inder kya tehan ki tegriven tene
11:53trillion dollar ki nahi market khol rhi hai
11:56yeh joh ke climate change ko bhi kam karaygi
11:58aur growth ki terep bhi jayegi
11:59mein health ke baare mein thhoda
12:01bati joe bha karna chata ho
12:03health ke bhi dhekhen is pere baut zade impact
12:05sa hain pakistan ka study hua wa hai baut
12:06ke pakistan mein joh bati wii gharmi
12:09hai iski wajah se joh
12:10vector bond diseases hai malaria hai
12:12uski incidents ya hain per bada kaya hai
12:14pher aapne joh floods aya
12:16uske inder dhekha hai joh pani khaira raha
12:18aysi zaga pe kyunki ya flood hamarah 2022 ka
12:20bada different flood ta
12:22haemesha ya hain per flood aaya
12:24kye jab aapki bharf zadeh piggli hai
12:25to flood aate hai ab dhariaon kya through aata hai
12:28yeh flood aaya ta jab aapka monsoon
12:30eek cloud burst hua
12:31or eek monsoonal shift hui
12:32cloud se
12:33or usne aaker
12:34aysi zaga pe bharish ki
12:36johan per pahelé bharish itni houti niti
12:37or eek bade bade ponds ban gae
12:40joh aaj bhaj bhi lake swanth pe
12:40usne maujood hai
12:42usse eek to humare zaraat pe fark pada
12:43dousra health ke oper effect aya
12:45ke wahan per jab woh khada pani tha
12:46uske inder
12:47uh...
12:49uh...
12:51So we have to counter this.
12:54But coming back to the innovative part of it,
12:57these challenges are now.
12:59Pakistan's opportunity is that Pakistan's funding
13:02but now we have to create our own priorities.
13:04And here I think that you can engage your youth
13:07and you can provide solutions to Pakistan.
13:12And also the job, alternate livelihood,
13:14that's also called a stream so that Pakistan
13:18can also be able to grow on a climate resilient pathway.
13:25For example, our border area,
13:29in the last 15-20 years,
13:35the district almost 3x4, 3x4,
13:39because of climate change
13:41and consistent earthquakes as well.
13:44What has the impact on the border?
13:47Yes.
13:48We will see the border of the border.
13:50We will see the glaciers in Pakistan.
13:53We have talked about the third pole.
13:55There were about 7000 glaciers before.
13:58There were 14000 glaciers in Pakistan.
14:02There are so many glaciers in the world.
14:05North and South Pole,
14:06which is the biggest difference in Pakistan.
14:09From the south of right around Mr.
14:36foreign
15:06I have talked to you about your neighbors,
15:09India, you have to talk about your neighbors,
15:12that data you have to share with you.
15:13Because when water comes,
15:15you have to tell us that
15:17international laws are on top of it.
15:19You don't do this weaponizing water.
15:22It seems like the climate change
15:24is being weaponized and being used.
15:30The world has been studied.
15:34Lake Chad, Africa in a lake,
15:37in the past 90% of water has been used.
15:40There are four countries who are living in it.
15:45There was about three crores of it,
15:47which had conflicted in the past.
15:49The Sudan and Darfur had conflicted in 20 years.
15:54There was a conflict that was triggered.
15:58The one thing is that you have to do this.
16:00The other thing is that you have to do this.
16:02The lessons are the way that there is no winner.
16:05Co-existence.
16:06You have to do co-existence and cooperation.
16:08You have to do this.
16:09You have to do this.
16:10You have to do this.
16:11It's better that you have to do this.
16:12It's better that you have to do this.
16:14And you have to do this.
16:20And then you have to do this.
16:22I have to do that.
16:24We have to do this.
16:28Thank you for this.
16:30You have to do this.
16:31You have to do this.
16:32You have to do this.
16:33Thank you very much.
16:55Khuda Hafiz
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