- 8 months ago
Maddie & Tae are back on Biscuits & Jam with big news, big music, and even bigger love for their growing families. As they juggle motherhood and their fast-paced careers, the duo opens up to Sid Evans about their new album 'Love and Light,' their lifelong friendship, and the emotional moment that brought Taylor Kerr to tears on the Grand Ole Opry stage. Plus: cooking competitions, songwriting joys, and 'Drunk Girls in Bathrooms.'
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00:00maddie and tay welcome back to biscuits and jam hello you're making me hungry already i want some
00:06biscuits and i will say nashville has some of the best biscuits and jam at loveless cafe we uh go
00:12there very often we've like got a hook up there and everything is there biscuits and jam sometimes
00:17have you ever gotten the jenny's biscuits and uh jam ice cream no it is so good it's probably my
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00:32y'all um it's been a minute you know the last time we talked was in the summer of 2022 i think wow
00:41oh my gosh so a lot has happened since then um and especially when it comes to to babies i mean taylor
00:49you had your second right i did and that's like six months ago yep um well how's it going how's he
00:58doing he's great two having two is just like a full house at all times it's chaos and it's amazing and
01:05we're still like trying to figure out the sleep he was sleeping through the night and then now he's
01:08waking up so i'm like i think it's just an evolution but it is so fun i love it tell me about his name
01:15and how you landed on that his name is chapel spelled like the church just one p one l um and
01:22his middle name is shields and that's after my father-in-law my father-in-law his middle name is
01:26as well and we kind of went back and forth on whether or not to make that the first name because
01:30it's just so cool she holds me but his nickname or his uh initials are csk which i just think is
01:36so cool chapel shields kirk oh that's great it sounds like yeah it could be almost like a name out of
01:43i don't know yellowstone or yeah or like an author or an author yeah oh that's great and uh maddie you've
01:52got a son named forest now right i do yes well i know that um that was not the easiest delivery to
02:01say the least um and that was going back a little longer a little a while ago but um how's he doing
02:08he is so good he's one and a half now going on like 13 just so wild and fun and um i'm just so
02:18i'm so excited for t to join the boy mom club i'm so excited and i think i think between layton like
02:25layton is gonna boss the boys around and i'm so cool with that because layton she is just like
02:30kind and smart and thoughtful and you know very like cautious so she's gonna be the great leader
02:38of this you know group here she's gonna have to wrangle the crazy cat the crazy cat yeah because
02:42our boys i mean my boy is wild um but he's just so sweet and fun girl he woke up last night in the
02:49middle of night ended up my bed too what time midnight oh okay mine was like three oh
02:54well what's worse hey girl are you up so do y'all have nicknames i mean what are you what are you
03:01known as to each other's kids is it like aunt maddie or you know yeah layton calls me maddie yeah and
03:09then forest calls her tay tay and it's yeah and he's really melts me the tay tay tay he's saying it's so
03:16good now and i'll be like i'll be like do you want to go play with layton huh tay tay baby baby yeah
03:22it's because chapel's just baby chapel has to wait to upgrade to chapel he's just baby right now
03:28well that's great that's great now you guys are about to give birth to something else uh with this
03:37new album um let me tell you it's way hard we are full term right now way harder yes album is much
03:43harder than pursuing a baby it's past three years uh yeah yeah and here you are and this thing is about
03:51to go out into the world um and your career is um on overdrive and your family life is on overdrive
04:01how are y'all managing all this it's honestly day by day and really leaning on each other like i normally
04:08can tell when she's having a day that like she's feeling spread thin and she can only tell when i'm
04:14feeling spread thin and we just kind of like you know take over when we can um but it truly is day
04:22by day and it's really taught us like one of t's superpowers is compartmentalizing that was not one of
04:28my superpowers and i've really had to learn like when i go home i mean obviously we have to be on our
04:34phones and you know answering and approving and all these kind of things but we try to be really
04:39really present when we are with our kids um but when we're working and on the road we are
04:46you know as focused as we possibly can be but it's hard like there it's it's how did you say that
04:52one time it's like sometimes you'll be on stage and like your heart is at home and then sometimes
04:57you're at home and you're craving to like be on stage and it's just this like i feel like that's
05:01like the hardest part at least for us and you'll hear the the pool on chasing babies raising dreams
05:06that that's just like truly where we're at in our lives like when we're with our babies
05:11or on our phones approving photos or doing the track listing or you know hiring people for our
05:17crew and then we're on stage we're thinking okay is our baby asleep how are the dads did they get
05:22enough milk like all of the things our brains are on overdrive 24 7 um it's a very full busy life
05:29there is not a moment of stillness but yeah that's okay yeah well yeah time is really the biggest
05:36challenge isn't it i mean there's just not enough time in the day and you know as a parent um that's
05:41one of the first things you realize is that um there's just you know um there's just no time to do
05:49to do everything absolutely yeah i just there's like my new motto at the end of the day because i am
05:55like a super perfectionist like try to be on top of everything like not miss anything and at the end of
06:00the day i always like when i'm praying and stuff i'm like i did the best i could today with what was
06:05give it for the day yes and i can rest easy knowing right i tried to be the best mom best
06:11wife for guest business partner best friend like i tried to do my best and sometimes it sucks but i
06:18tried my best you know i can't think of another duo in country music that is going through this stage
06:27of parenting together or has done that together i mean there's just not really a playbook for this
06:33are there people in the in the music world that um you guys um connect to or can get advice from
06:43or are you really kind of it's really just you know the two of you kind of going through it together
06:48i feel like we are creating our own blueprint for us there are so many amazing women and men that we
06:54have looked up to in his career dirks bentley being one he's an amazing father and you're with him he
06:59there's evidence of that um and we went on tour with carrie underwood and at the time i think she
07:04had her youngest was about the age of chathar who was like six months old and then um she had two
07:10eggs on the road she was doing the full thing touring every night taking care of her babies and
07:14that was really incredible to watch we i don't even think we're married at that point so it was cool to
07:19see that it can be done um but in our position we are just riding on one bus just the two of us with
07:26our um well not on the bus just two of us but our whole camp's on the bus whole crew we're doing a
07:31little bit differently than she did so we're just dying there's just not as many resources as someone
07:38at her level would have and so we have to get really creative with like you know how long you
07:44know we have like boundaries set in place of like how long we're okay leaving our babies and when we're
07:50not okay leaving our babies and um but just trying to find that balance but i will it is hard because
07:56there's not really like someone right now you know what who who really i connect with a lot is gabby
08:02barrett she has three babies um and her husband also plays in her band so um her and i have connected a
08:10lot um that's probably the only other artist that's like in our same season so that yeah yeah do you have
08:18um uh you know parents siblings um who've been pitching in um and have helped out oh my gosh
08:26yes my mother-in-law is incredible she's actually in town right now um and my son adores her but her
08:33and um i have incredible sister-in-laws that help um but mainly it's just me and my husband just you
08:41know going day by day and just you know taking turns like okay you get to go shower and go as fast
08:47as you can to come back before he destroys everything i mean you should have seen us
08:51trying to have a fitting for our tour oh we were very ambitious we have like 16 outfits that we
08:56needed to get and i was like you know what just bring the babies we'll have a play day it'll be
08:59fun and our stylist has a four or five month old as well we had four babies and three mamas and one
09:08nanny and we go like almost halfway through the outfits yeah like we have to yeah it was there was a
09:14couple meltdowns and you know yeah so we learned the hard way that maybe no babies add long things
09:21when y'all think about uh your own moms and how you grew up what are some things that you kind of take
09:29away from from them um when you're you know thinking about how to be a good mom yourself i think
09:38i'm thankful that our moms let us spread our wings and fly and i think that that's something
09:45as much as i joke around i'm like layton's gonna look like me forever and she's never gonna get
09:49married maybe to her dad but it's fine yes email like a little faith butings the dad yeah i love it
09:55but i really want to i really want to let her be herself and let her wings fly and she has to go to
09:59school she doesn't want to go to school she wants to be a singer and as of right now she wants to be a
10:03singer but we'll try to steer that ship a different direction um but i think that that's
10:07something that both our parents yeah yeah just as a reminder um for listeners who may not have heard
10:15our first conversation um so maddie you grew up in texas i did yes um and taylor you grew up in
10:23in oklahoma right yes yes y'all met when you were 15 is that right 15 so you guys have been in
10:31this together for for quite a while we have known each other for this year we both turned 30 and so
10:38we will have known each other for half of our lives this year um and i would not have it any other
10:45way but it is wild to think back to like 15 and meeting through this like weird vocal coach guy that
10:51was like in between you know oklahoma and texas that we just both happened to be going it was it's a
10:56total god thing like there's no way that like the stars aligned like that um but there are times
11:02when i like just a picture pops up on my phone i'm like oh my god this is crazy yeah you know you
11:08mentioned um it being a god thing and you know y'all have both been pretty open about your faith
11:14um what does your faith look like in 2025 i mean is it you know is it about being part of a church
11:22or is it just something more kind of personal what a beautiful question first of all i think
11:28there's a first for everything we've never ever had a question i know and that just brought life
11:32into me and i think it's it's different for everybody like for me me and my family we we have
11:38found a church home that we love here in nashville and i serve with the babies um and it's funny
11:44because there's like times when the parents are like you look so familiar i'm like oh it's just
11:48because i was here last week and then they find out they're like oh my god and like it's just like
11:52so sweet but um for me my faith in 2025 looks like total surrender like yeah there have been
11:59things that have happened in my personal life and just professionally and everything and then turning
12:0530 just all of these things um where i really feel god just like saying be still and let me do my thing
12:13like i think sometimes i think i can you know oh if i do this or if i work this hard or if i you know
12:19then then this will work out that way and i just feel god's gentle kind voice being like hey i
12:25actually thought this and all you gotta do is walk all you gotta do is just walk and i say i'm paving
12:31the road and just have peace in that and that i have like found so much peace but this year my i think
12:38my like fake word is surrendering i love that i've i found a lot of peace um i'm in a women's group
12:44and we're reading the book risen motherhood and it's amazing the first chapter is the mom
12:49describing she's like potty training and how much patience that requires i remember the first
12:54time i opened that book we were in the middle of potty training late and i was like yes like i feel
12:58so seen um but being in a women's group and just kind of getting to talk about the days the ins and
13:05outs of motherhood and just kind of especially with women in the industry it's such a unique
13:09position to be and we're all working mothers trying to find that balance so that has been
13:14a lot of peace for me well you're definitely both at a stage in life and career when you know you have
13:19to think that everything is just so much bigger than you and so much more than you can handle you know
13:26oh absolutely and that's the good news is we all have to handle it all we don't have to know
13:31everything like that's what when i'm like starting to feel that like this anxious energy and like
13:36feeling of alarm i'm like wait i don't have to have it all figured out i don't i just have to
13:40put one foot in front of the other and just do my best and that's it but that has taken a lot of
13:45time to get to that place well speaking of putting one foot in front of another and and uh just dealing
13:51with the day-to-day um can we talk about food for a second yes we can always talk always which y'all
13:59been together for a long time which one of you would you say is the better cook i'm such a good cook
14:04no i think tea can be a good cook but she doesn't have the time i don't like time but
14:14every time like anytime her and layton come over and me and my husband start cooking and stuff she
14:19is she's really good i think if you had the time i can make a mean breakfast i know yeah some
14:24bacon she could make a breakfast casket hey that's important yes yes that she makes a mean
14:29breakfast the rest of the day you're starving i maybe i am the better you for sure why are you
14:36saying maybe i mean sir the better i mean fumble queen oh dear but it just my husband is an incredible
14:44cook and we actually just started building a garden we live out on some property here in nashville and
14:49we're building like a full homestead like we've got more chickens and food you know and we're
14:55basically the goal is to not have to go to the grocery store um but um my like classics are
15:02like comfort stuff like the lasagnas and chicken pot pie chicken and dumplings i make a good kale salad
15:10like more it's like your tostadas with a tostada sweet potatoes yeah sweet potato tostadas are good
15:16um but i do try i'm like more my husband's sous chef but i do learn a lot that way i do make a good
15:22cheesecake sometimes they turn out raw and i have to start over but cheesecake is hard but that's a
15:28lot and i mean you know that's some and you're doing some some real southern dishes too i love
15:34the chicken pot pie and yeah let me tell you last night i the mental load i was like i can't think
15:40about dinner we're having a pot of rice and a fried egg and that's what's for dinner my son was so
15:44happy and so that's that's our little throw together meal put some fruit rock and roll so talk to me
15:50about your husband's cooking what's what's his like dish that he's kind of known for oh my gosh
15:56literally everything so my husband's puerto rican um and so he makes empanadas he makes arroz con
16:03maiz which is kind of this like rice with corn dish it's that is taste favorite she loves the arroz con
16:08maiz um and i mean he makes incredible he makes my favorite steak so like we don't even go on dates
16:15because he makes the best steak he makes incredible fajitas um he makes the you know those vietnamese
16:21like banh mi sandwiches oh yeah he just like tried that i was like i'm just gonna try this it was
16:26bomb.com it was so delicious yeah um so he literally can make anything and that all started because he's
16:33one of five and so when he would come home from school like his other siblings would be in sports or
16:39whatever um and he was in sports too but just when he was younger like his parents would be working or
16:43you know whatever and he'd be home by himself and so when he's like 10 years old he learned how to
16:47like make a pot of rice and fried egg and so he's like that's just kind of how it started and then
16:52he just got really really really good at it and he went to school for um food science and nutrition
16:57so he like kind of knows the science behind everything too and he could be a private chef
17:02oh absolutely he's but he is your private chef which works great yeah sometimes tea too
17:09is this part of how he wooed you maddie no we met in high school um so i have no he wasn't really
17:17cooking yet he wasn't really cooking yet no i think he was like yeah cook and pick up no he was no he
17:23has no he had no game and that's why i liked him because i was like oh he's not gonna be a player over
17:29here talking to all the girls he's just the cute like shy guy um but yeah now i'm like if i have a bad
17:36day he's like hey chicken piccata for dinner i'm like everything's right in the world again
17:41taylor when you think about who's the cook and your family that really you know um was was kind of
17:49the rock star cook of the family if there was one who comes to mind rock star cook of the family my
17:54parents actually made a lot of meals together we didn't yeah we didn't really eat a ton of home
18:00cooked meals um it was the same special occasion was that the 90s where parents were just like
18:04maybe there's a beef stick yeah whatever there's three of us kids and my brothers were in baseball
18:09literally every single day it was like all season baseball is happening so we ate a lot of pizzas um
18:14and i ate a lot of food at baseball games but my parents make their meals together which was always
18:20a really sweet thing to see but my husband is the cook in our family he makes good chili right that's
18:25his thing my dad makes good chili and my husband got the recipe for my dad yeah wait your buffalo chicken
18:30it's really good yeah thanks she makes it you just get you some rotisserie chicken shred it up put
18:35some cream cheese and cheese in there and that is so and what's it what's his you know the thing that
18:41he makes that you get most excited about thing that josh makes it that i get the most excited about he
18:47makes really good chicken wings in the air fryer he gets them nice and crispy and he does different
18:52flavors sometimes he'll do garlic parmesan some yeah sometimes he'll do buffalo and sometimes he
18:58makes like a spicy barbecue buffalo it's more of like the summer thing we don't really make it in
19:03the winter yeah you guys are gonna be just fine i know i don't know honestly my mother-in-law has
19:09been in town for like probably a week and a half now and she's like maddie how are you not 700 pounds
19:14because my husband like we just love to spoil her when she comes to town so like i'll make her coffee
19:19and she'll he'll make breakfast and you know just this whole thing because she's just wonderful but
19:22um she's like how like how and i'm like honestly i think the balance of like like some of the food
19:28that we make is grown like at our house so maybe like the balance of that i don't know and then
19:34chasing a kid around that'll keep you fit i'll tell you people are like what's y'all's workout routine
19:38chasing around children lifting babies lifting babies constantly having a baby on your hip and holding
19:45them they're like oh my gosh what do you do for your arms uh have a child have a baby that'll that'll
19:52tone them up right you know in a hurry yeah so this is kind of a random question but maddie i saw a
19:59picture of you and brenda lee oh my god who so she was on this podcast back in the fall and she was so much
20:09fun and it was such a thrill to get to talk to her but you know she's someone who had a career
20:16that really took off when she was a teenager much like you guys did yeah um even earlier i think she
20:22was became god famous at like 13. did you feel like a special connection to her did she have any
20:28advice for you it was a pretty quick interaction there was a lot of people wanting to talk to her
20:33and i and i feel like you know i we are never going to be the people that like hog someone else's
20:38time or you know we understand that you're getting pulled in different directions but brenda is like
20:44an icon in general but then also she's such a part of um me and my husband's like christmas traditions
20:51because of her record so i i didn't care if i look like a loser i literally brought a tote bag
20:57with my like original brenda lee vinyl that my husband found at this vinyl store that we love by
21:04her house and had her sign it for me and jonah my husband's like oh my gosh if you get this sign i
21:10was like babe she's probably never gonna talk to me she's like why are you asking me to sign a vinyl
21:14and she was like oh my gosh she appreciated she was like the fact that like you're gonna be sharing
21:19this with the younger generation the fact that you listen to vinyl and she's like i don't even know if
21:23i have this vinyl you can have it oh i'm signing it for you and it was so magical um and just like
21:31she's just as wonderful as i pictured and sometimes you meet your heroes and you're like
21:36oh but this was a hero that i was like oh my gosh she's everything i could have imagined she's so great
21:42and you go back and listen to some of those you know early records and they were really so well done
21:48um and it's just incredible her voice at 13 you cannot even believe that that she was you know
21:57that she's she's a true artist like when she was looking at the vinyl she's like i was like sir did
22:02you design all this artwork she's like oh yeah and i had to send it back so many times because the
22:05font wasn't right and the image you know and she was and i was like that i mean it made me feel so
22:10validated because tay and i are very much like that with with merch with imaging with everything we're
22:15very particular on how we want things to look our manager who designs everything which luckily she
22:21reads our minds so it's so much easier these days where she just like boom makes it but back in the
22:25day it was just like oh my gosh like it the it was just a lot trickier um you know having someone
22:33bring your vision to life that doesn't read your mind like kylie she was way ahead of her time and
22:39okay well let's talk about the new album um it's called love and light and i feel like this is gonna
22:49really be a big record for y'all oh you're lips to god you're gonna make me cry that is literally my
22:58prayer it really is something and um every song on there is so unique they all feel like hits to me and
23:07and um i'm just wondering you know what was the pivotal moment in this process when you felt like
23:14it was you know it was all coming together because i know it it it took a while did take a while
23:20pivotal moment i think it was for me i yeah i mean that yeah definitely with title track when it all
23:26came together but like i knew when we wrote kissing cowboys which kissing cowboys we started and didn't
23:31finish for a year like we went on tour and did a whole thing and then didn't finish the song for a
23:36whole year but that one i was like oh i think we found our just like i don't know our style our sound
23:46what that looks like right now the synopsis of the record basically yeah but love and light that was a
23:52really special day and it's funny because i think you'll hear this theme where there there's over the
23:57years we have been like burned by people and had all kinds of different adversity like every single
24:04human in the world does um but the difference is we try to take that adversity and heartbreak and
24:10disappointment and discouragement and turn it into something beautiful or positive or how can we grow
24:16from this how can we take the knowledge like less like oh this is happening to me and this is happening
24:21rep and more like this happening for me yeah and so love and light someone really burned us really bad
24:28that we trusted for a long time and i was pissed i was so mad i was not being a christian woman this
24:37week i was mad okay and so we went into the writing room and i was like i've always had this title
24:44and we wrote this with tay's husband and devin dawson and um i was like i have this title and i want it to be
24:52like sweet but also like a sour patch kid basically that's what i want you know the the vibe to be and
24:57it just fell out so i mean we wrote the song so quickly the minute we wrote love and light um it
25:03everything started coming together and we've done a couple interviews where people that haven't even
25:08listened to the record are like love and light when i think of maddie and tay i think of love and
25:12light and i'm like oh my gosh what a compliment like you know if someone thinks about us as artists
25:18like even if you don't know our music it's like if you think of love and light yeah that is that's
25:23definitely the legacy i'm gonna leave totally i mean i would never in a million years think that
25:28that song came out of uh you know a place of of you know of anger exactly that's that's our
25:37expertise even there's a song on the record called only jesus and that song came out of pure
25:42anger and heartbreak and frustration um i mean there were tears and everything and that was
25:49another perfect example of like taking pain and making it into um something positive i mean love
25:57and light is a song that makes you want to dance first of all and but it is also it does not sound
26:02to me like a country song i know yeah we definitely explored i think um this record has been in the making
26:10for almost three years or three years actually because the first song that was written for this
26:15record maddie wrote in a co-write by herself because i was on maternity leave yeah it's a song
26:20called one hit wonders and it's incredible um and i feel like when maddie wrote that one it really
26:25opened the doors for us to explore a different musical side i mean we've always loved like r&b and
26:31silk sonic and that was a huge inspiration for you writing one hit wonders i know and it just felt like
26:37all of these doors open we had so much more fun making this record without the limitations of is
26:41this country doesn't need a banjo you know just like let's just write a song and if it feels good
26:47it feels good um and thankfully the producers that we had on this record my husband being one of them
26:52cory crowder and chris la court they were able to take those songs that weren't sonically country and
27:00make them fit into this record which is special totally and this was the first time that we wrote an album
27:05without like um is this gonna belong on radio is this gonna be a hit yeah because that just really
27:12like destroys the creative process it is so hard to people please and be creative at the same time and
27:21so our goal was just to make music that we love that we you know identify with that we connect with
27:28and also no one knows our fan base like we do and so we trusted ourselves this album was like
27:34these are songs that our fans would love these are songs that our fans would hear themselves in
27:38that would connect with um and so we just we really trusted ourselves on this record i think this was
27:44the first record where we were like not doubting not you know overthinking everything like we normally
27:51do and i don't know if that's like years of experience and you know this is the fourth album so we
27:56got you know 15 years in the business you know under our belt or what it was um but also there's there's
28:04just um there was less pressure i think well it it feels like you kind of let it all hang out and
28:10it feels and it feels bigger it feels bigger the sound is bigger um thank you and you know the and
28:20one of the songs where that really comes through to me is the first song on the album which is called
28:27fall in love and find out and it's sneaky one yes it feels like a stadium song you know um or maybe
28:35like a big shania twain kind of song or something and um talk to me about that one and and how that
28:42came together oh i love that fall in love and find out is one of those sneaky songs we wrote it with
28:47brad tersey um just the three of us he's in the old dominion at his house um and it was just like
28:53a fun little title that i had and thankfully threw it out that day and it all resonated with us so we
28:58wrote this sexy song about being confident in yourself and knowing what you bring to the table
29:03and just kind of waiting for the man to to find out about the whole package that you got going on
29:08um and it was so fun and it definitely does feel like the opening of a record like it's like
29:13dipping your toes in like okay there's some confidence here we're getting a little
29:17sassy it's a stadium song i know and i love that song because it and we when we wrote it we knew
29:24this was going to be the first song on the album because it starts out kind of dainty with this like
29:28mandolin and you know it's like real sweet and then it's just rocking and and i think people there's a
29:34lot of there's been a couple people that are like live show like we didn't know that you rock like y'all
29:40like rock on say like we're rocking out it's not just like die for broken heart you know five times
29:46over and everyone's crying it's like no that's that's a small part of the set but we're we're
29:50jamming and we're dancing and we are rocking and rolling the whole the whole show um but fall in
29:57love and find out is is becoming one of my favorites on the record it's crazy it is such it's it's just um
30:04it feels good and yeah it does feel big i think josh produced it really well oh my gosh he crushed it
30:10yeah yeah it feels it feels big to me and and um i just uh i don't know i guess it's going to be up
30:17to your fans see how they respond and and the world they run our way i have a feeling they'll be they'll
30:23be singing that one at the top of their lungs i hope so all right i gotta ask you about a couple more
30:28and and one of them has the best title i've ever heard which is drunk girls in bathrooms
30:33um and i've heard y'all say i've heard y'all say that you lived that song together oh so i'm
30:41wondering is there a particular story that speaks to that oh my gosh yeah i mean t and i we a lot of
30:49people think that we're just like these like goody two-shoe gals but we just partied smarter than the
30:55boys okay like partying looks different these days where we i'm like oh we can't do hangovers she's
31:01recipe with you know this different kind of party these days but back in the day like you know on
31:07tour and stuff like that oh we'd be like hitting up all the cool vibey bars and um just like incognito
31:13just making so many fun memories with our band but um never go to the bathroom by yourself never sure
31:19the back even if not even need to pee i'm like i need to go but you always go together and you you get
31:24some tea when you go to the ladies bathroom long story short one of my girlfriends was talking about
31:30how um you know in college when she was like feeling down about herself or whatever she would
31:35just go you know out and then go hang out in the girls restroom because everyone's like you look so
31:40amazing like that guy doesn't deserve you like let me buy it you like it's just it is like a freaking
31:46hype squad in there um and i feel kind of bad exposing the secret of the ladies restroom at wars and
31:54and everything but um now the guys are like oh we now we know why y'all go together we know why it
32:00takes so long because y'all are that that's the party the bar is not the party it's it's the
32:06yeah oh yeah it's the girls laughing there's an old saturday night live skit that y'all may or may
32:13not have seen you're way too young to have seen this but it was about the ladies room
32:18and there's these two couples sitting down to dinner and the girls get up and they go into
32:25the bathroom and they've been in there for a really long time and then the guys finally are
32:30like what the heck is going on in there and then it cuts to the ladies room and there's just this
32:34massive party happening yeah and they're drinking cocktails and there's like a band playing and anyway
32:41accurate and and when we had we were like we have to do a music video for this song just to like try
32:48to bring it to life um as best as possible and oh my gosh it was so much fun it really it felt pretty
32:54authentic to like the the memories i gotta watch that skit now i know i know we should have watched
33:00that before your video and pulled more inspiration go look it up i'm telling you it's it's perfect for
33:05this so all right one more and we've got to talk for just a second about chasing babies and raising
33:10dreams um which is really just you know it's so much about um this stage of your life and it's
33:16what we've been talking about this whole conversation um what did that song mean to you oh man um well if
33:24it tells you anything we performed it live for the first time this last week and i cried and tease i think
33:30i can count on one hand how many times i've cried on stage and that's zero yeah so this is the song
33:35that finally made me cry on stage and i think just because i'll never forget when i had leighton
33:41it felt like my first dream like my first baby which is music and my first dream it wasn't getting
33:49priority anymore and i think that was like a really kind of hard mind twist for me because as much as i
33:54love my daughter and being a mom is like the best thing in the entire world and i've always wanted to
33:59be a mom it was still hard to not be able to give my full attention to music and i think there are so
34:05many people that that make there's so many things in this world that can make you feel less than when
34:10you're not able to give every aspect 100 but that's just not my reality at least i might no one no it's
34:16impossible exactly and so i think i felt really like insecure about the fact that i was having to
34:21like split myself between these two things and so when we wrote chasing babies raising drinks i was like
34:27this describes exactly how i've been feeling and haven't been able to put it into work yeah and
34:33it's like just this like the second verse it's tears rolling down back and out of the drive it
34:37never gets easier saying goodbye to sweet brown eyes make them all to say oh i like my eyeballs are
34:43already starting um but we wrote that song and like the day before i think we had like just came into
34:50town and i was backing away out of the driveway and i just remember seeing my husband and my son
34:55and being like i'm leaving one dream for oh my gosh oh my god oh no no no what's the moon doing
35:01is that what's happening um but i was leaving one dream for the other one and it was really really
35:08hard like that day i think i just cried and cried i'm sorry now um but i think there's just like this
35:17really um powerful like thing with that song where it's super vulnerable um and i just hope that like
35:25parents feel really seen and not even parents just people feel seen like yes we got too much
35:29month at the end of the money like everyone i feel like everyone deals are doing the best that they
35:34can yeah and everyone's working and everyone's got something that they're doing and at the same time
35:39trying to raise a family and wanting to be the best or shout yourself to raise that family is like
35:44it seems impossible yeah and so that's why we just take it yeah literally step yeah and i have like my
35:50i think all of us like have this inner voice um that maybe says something mean like my inner voice
35:56i had really had to work on her because damn she was a mean for a long time just beating myself up all
36:01the time but a lot a thing that i notice myself feeling a lot is like i just don't feel enough like
36:07i'm not working hard enough i'm not being a good enough mom i'm not a good enough wife just this
36:12like thing that i tell myself in that song really reminds me that like i am showing up 110 as much
36:19as i possibly can and i think my goal or my dream for chasing babies raising dreams is that people
36:26with kids or without just be able like oh they understand what it feels like to not feel enough
36:32and like just be reminded that we all feel that way but it's not true yeah um even though even say
36:38at home moms i mean that is the job in and of itself and you're supporting your partner as
36:42they're going out and chasing their dream and you're holding down the fort i mean it's just like
36:46i get chills literally to do i know i didn't think i was gonna cry it's a beautiful scene but it's very
36:52very hard dang it soon it's all your fault well it's a great song and and i love the way that y'all
36:58just kind of you know captured everything that you're going through and and everything that so many
37:03other people are going through as well yeah that's the goal like our dream was to like write music
37:08that people feel seen when they listen to it like you know what also music that we love but i think
37:16it's really special and it's it kind of aligns with the purpose we feel like god's put on our heart to
37:20like make music that feels like comfort um like i have go-to comfort records when i'm feeling anxious
37:27when i'm feeling sad when i'm feeling angry you know all these things and like we want to be that for
37:32not only our fans but just people that you know love music well i think you're you're definitely
37:38doing that um so congrats on everything um i want to ask y'all one more question um about um about the
37:48opry because um it's turning 100 this year um the grand old opry is turning 100 this year and i saw
37:56that y'all performed there earlier this spring and you've been on that stage on and off since you
38:03were 18 years old yes um so just you know tell me about the first time that you performed there and
38:12and what that meant to you i remember like it was yesterday september 23rd 2015
38:17now he was wearing a white dress and i was wearing a pink dress from charlotte roofs so yep our entire
38:22family was their brothers parents siblings everyone i don't remember the performance
38:27because i don't doubt i think we really i know we played girl in a country song and maybe after
38:32the storm blows i'm not sure but it was magical i sobbed like a baby coming off of that stage it was
38:38it was a we made it moment yeah um and i feel like you only get a couple of those in your career that
38:43are really like oh my gosh we've made it but i don't even know how many times we've played and we
38:49so you'll get nervous that would have loved to have been a part of the opry 100 special i know
38:53i know that would have been awesome but it looked great well y'all were really uh stepping out and
39:00calling out the the bro country you know i know and that song was never supposed to see the light of
39:06day yeah he just wrote it because we were just feeling sassy and crazy and we were like oh we're
39:11just two old gals no one's gonna listen to this like no one carefully have to say and turns out
39:16everyone was like oh actually they do yeah what they're saying is very accurate well i love seeing
39:22y'all back on that stage and and every time you get up there um so um it's been great talking to you
39:30maddie and tay thanks so much for being on biscuits and jam and congrats on the album and everything else
39:37thank you so much it's always a lovely conversation i know making us cry every second
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