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Claudio checks in and tells us about Coheed's new album and how Star Wars, Dune, and Krull influenced his music.
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00:00uh the band coheed and cambria will be at the leah core center on july 27th tickets going to
00:06go on sale tomorrow uh at 10 a.m at coheed and cambria.com uh they are promoting their uh highly
00:14anticipated new record which is vaxxas to a window of the waking mind and spiraling somewhere in the
00:21united states as we speak on a bus headed out on tour he is joining us live please welcome
00:26the singer of the band the man behind the music mr claudio sanchez this morning claudio good morning
00:32sir good morning thank you for having me it's our pleasure man listen i'm gonna be straight up with
00:39you from from the very get-go because we've you know we're excited about having this interview
00:42and i just have the smallest amount of knowledge of coheed and cambria i've been aware of you guys
00:48for a long time i only know a few songs and i was like man do i kind of you know bs this guy and just
00:55pretend like i know all of his music and do the interview that way but then i thought about it i'm
00:58like you know what you've got such diehard fans the fans know about your music they're going to go to
01:04your show but how about the people that might not be that familiar with and let's bring some new people
01:08on board this and so i want to be one of those people and and the reason i know i'm going to be
01:14one of those people is i had this same type of sensation of just checking out and diving into your
01:20cataloging the last couple of days that i had when i first uh somebody turned me on to rush okay so
01:25i'm i'm a prog guy and and rush is my band and when somebody played 2112 for me the first time that
01:31was my first dive into conceptual music and i was like i was like pinto in animal house when he finds
01:37out that there is an atom on your fingernail could be a tiny little universe i was just like i can't
01:42handle this is blown away so i'm i'm really open to diving deep into the world of coheed and cambria
01:48because it's a very dense universe there's a lot of material there and i bet you love hearing about
01:56people coming on board and and and really experiencing the music you know yeah well you know that's
02:03actually a big conversation we have when making backs this too with our a and r johnny minority is
02:08just like you know coheed and cambria has been a band now like 20 years and it's like well what does
02:13that look like to somebody coming on board and it's not that different from say like somebody
02:18getting introduced to maybe the star wars universe and then and then realizing there's this whole
02:24mythology this whole catalog of records behind them that's just that's vast you know and um so yeah i
02:32mean it's it's it's definitely a conversation that that i love i love sort of having is like
02:38you know this is way more than just music it's it's uh it's a culture um you know and all because you
02:44know i started it as a kid uh because i was shy i just had a hard time singing about myself and i
02:52was afraid to let people know about me so i created a concept to hide behind and and for those who don't
02:58know claudio is that that the bands work you know now listen there are concept albums there's the wall
03:04and there's 2112 and there's dark side of the moon and these albums that have this entire you know
03:09project that's just filled with this story and it's it's amazing but the band's entire work from
03:15what i understand is all a conceptual piece is that a correct assumption or a correct uh characterization
03:21yep with the exception of one record which was called the color before the sun but everything else
03:26is part of a mythology i constructed a science fiction epic called the amory wars where cohen and cambria
03:33yeah yeah where cohen and cambria are essentially uh in the first five stories are act as kind of the
03:39adam and eves they sort of set the whole mythology off and then everything else is really about their
03:44sons coming to you know coming into manhood like an adolescent growing into a man and understanding
03:50like his place within this universe that he essentially has control over um and then after that
03:57we kind of fall into this new story arc that we're working on called vaxis and that you know when i look at
04:03the vaxis story arc and i think about myself in there whereas like those original coheed records i
04:08see myself as the adolescent and i'm growing up you know whereas in the vaxis story arc i see myself as
04:15the father you know and uh and that's really kind of the trajectory there those are the themes there
04:21is how a father deals with you know you know the the you know the the the a man kind of coming into
04:28his own as a dad basically you know so uh i love this notion i would have been and and i am now
04:34going to because i i just as preston said we're both fans of this kind of approach to music it's
04:40few and far between these days and and it used to be the norm and you would just get there and you
04:44would immerse and you would look at album art and you would be what's the message and you talk about
04:48album art you've got the the comic series i mean you've got all of this stuff that's dovetailing
04:53i'd you know preston at 16 or 17 if you found this band you'd be outside the tour bus oh yeah
04:58because honestly i heard so many people that i respected and respect claudio you're the band's
05:06name would always come up and i'm like well i love this stuff and i and so circuitously i would
05:11experience and go yeah that's good not understanding i mean what is a very rare situation where it's not
05:17just simply a thematic concept album it's a concept band that is awesome that's a mind blower
05:24was that did you start to fall into it just through the growth of the band or was that
05:30the modus operandi from day one you know so when i started writing material you know i think i was
05:37about uh you know as a teenager right and i and i became the singer of this band and i when i was
05:42writing the material for it um before it was coheed and cambria i started to realize like i just had a
05:47hard time i had a hard time singing songs about myself putting my heart on my sleeve but though they
05:53were you know um so i i just didn't want anybody to go oh i know that person now because of the music
05:59you know so so i can start started to construct this this concept um so i took a trip to paris france
06:05in 1998 and there's when i started to construct the ideas of coheed and cambria the characters some
06:12of the first some of the first songs on the first record um just because i hadn't been anywhere i mean
06:17you know new york kid i the furthest i had been was new jersey like now i'm in paris and it was so
06:23wonderful and i was like you know what maybe i should just really adopt this as a songwriter you
06:27know i mean of course i'm i mean my i'm a teenager i'm not like thinking that strategically but
06:31you know that's just what i thought i was like you know what i'm shy this is let's just let's just put
06:36this out there with a curtain you know and uh and that's what i did um and then you know when the band
06:43got signed in uh 2001 to equal vision an indie up in new york they didn't like the name of the band we
06:50had at the time and so coheed and cambria happened to be this project i was working on on the side and
06:54the band really liked it and so with that we adopted the name and i took the concept with me and
07:00and it's just kind of been the you know i guess from day one when the signing yeah i guess you
07:06could say it's it's always been the the thing that's great so uh you had mentioned um you know
07:11entering this universe for the first time and you had uh sort of drawn the parallel between you know
07:15your music and let's say the star wars universe so for us the star wars universe is started with
07:20episode four so if we were talking to somebody who had never seen a movie before we might start
07:25with episode four and other people might say no you gotta start with episode one and then other
07:29people might say no you need to start with rogue one or whatever so what i want to ask you you know
07:3520 years later and i've done this with other bands where i you know i discovered a band you know four
07:40records in i'm like okay well where do i start do i start with the newest stuff or do i go back to the
07:44beginning so for you for anybody who just hold heard shoulders for the first time and that is their
07:50introduction to the band do you recommend starting there or do you recommend going back to 2002
07:55to the second stage turbine blade um i think it's really it's totally subjective i mean this answer
08:01changes all the time it all depends on timing right like if we were to finish say the vaxxas story which
08:06is three more records uh uh i would that might my answer to this question would be different i would
08:12say you know i'm really proud of vaxxas 2 i think vaxxas 2 really kind of stands off on its own i also
08:18really love the idea of like coming into something late and then discovering the fact that there's
08:23all this other stuff to consume um but if i had to say you know second stage turbine blade is is
08:30is basically the second part of the amory wars that is the second part in this huge mythology that's
08:37probably going to ultimately be 12 parts
08:39but uh that's the second part uh the origin character the origin story of those characters is
08:47in a record called year of the black rainbow so technically that's the first here's the thing
08:51so sorry here's where my crazy gets into play it's all good every record has a numeric value
08:57so year of the black rainbow year being singular second stage turbine blade second being two
09:02uh in keeping secrets of silent earth three is the third part that apollo four oh my you know so
09:08every record has its numeric value within the the story the vaxxas story arc however that's that's sort
09:16the more cryptic uh the v for vaxxas stands for the roman numeral five and the axis in which all of
09:22the amory wars is now going to revolve so this is a little a little heady no no no this is absolutely
09:28and i love because i'm looking at a color code that explains a song can be exclusive like the
09:35red for example a song can sometimes be exclusively from the point view of view of a character in the
09:41real i mean there's a breakdown of tone of tone of of who is speaking based on a color code your fan
09:47base is obviously very much into the minutiae we are as well for so many things that are our um pop
09:55culture and obviously you're a science fiction fan uh so so what what has rocked you i got to assume
10:02you're a dune fan correct oh absolutely yes yes i i love all versions of dune i love the i love the
10:09frank herbert book i actually liked the david lynch movie i mean when i saw that i was a child so
10:14yeah i had no uh we're fans as well yeah exactly yeah um and i and i really love the new one so
10:21yes i'm definitely a fan of dune definitely a fan of star wars i also really liked some like
10:25i liked crawl are you guys from oh of course crawl it's cheesy goodness oh my god that that that sort
10:33of uh star that weapon yeah that he would throw awesome yeah the glade the glade dude i i wanted
10:41one of those so bad yeah i totally yeah i was like right but like you know so that was like the
10:49thing right so when i was a kid like you'd sit watching hbo in in hopes that star wars would come
10:54on and hbo would give you like uh the give you crawl they give you ice pirates yes with uh with
11:01robert yurick yeah yeah yes absolutely like so those are those are like sort of the you know those
11:07are like the science fiction movies that i got kind of brought up on uh comic books obviously uh you
11:14know anything sort of pop culture like sunday morning cartoon saturday morning cartoons he man g.i.
11:20joe i'm just like very i thought tron i think the the era that i grew up in i mean i'm a you know
11:26pre-adolescence i'm in the 80s so uh it's very character driven you know people are trying to sell
11:31toys essentially and like so characters are very defined even in like the most cheesy way when you
11:37think of like you know g.i joe you got shipwreck who's like the sailor or you know so like i think i
11:44was kind of lucky in that respect because i don't know that that all that stuff really influenced me
11:48are we talking about this we talk about this especially from that period uh we were just
11:53talking about the movie alien nation do you remember that with the uh yep absolutely all of
11:57those were where they were very high concept very easily consumable science fiction but um it's funny
12:04because that gives me that gives us a fixed point at what was your impetus for this and it and it all
12:09makes sense uh but that's very cool so besides the comic book and the music would every since
12:16everything obviously has a very theatrical aspect to it would you take a foray into films have you is
12:22this something that we has actually happened we're unaware of uh that you've announced any plans for
12:27films because i think you'd your vision would be perfect for this you know uh you know we we've
12:32attempted it but on a very grassroots sort of small level not not you know not in a very serious way
12:38like you know no one's really come to approach us essentially like at one point mark walbert tried to get
12:44involved his uh company leverage but it wasn't really i mean i think i think it was like the
12:50wrong time because now i gotta tell you like i get asked this question way more than i've ever and i
12:55think it has a lot to do with maybe the vaxxas story arc because a lot of the accompanying art the
13:00story is very photographic it's very very photorealistic and it's easier to see i think than
13:06it's ever have it ever has been right so uh i get asked it a lot so i have a feeling it's gonna
13:12it might happen um nothing right now but it just you know it just feels like the wave is pushing in
13:20that direction all right so so claudio to that end um in 1998 when you're writing in paris you know
13:25essentially you're creating the story arc but the constant from 1998 until right now is the music
13:31right the music sort of is at the base of a lot of this stuff and a lot of what your career has become
13:35however in 2022 you're sitting on a tour bus and you're zooming with us and you know we're in
13:41completely different states so obviously and in many ways the technology over that amount of time
13:46has changed vastly which allows you to tell the story in many different ways which which part of
13:52the technology advancements that we've had over the last two decades is most appealing for coheed
13:56and cambria which part of it is just kind of a distraction like what have you guys really
13:59embraced and you're like oh my god this is a really great way for us to tell the story in a way
14:03that we really want to i mean i definitely i mean i'm i would always i always want to see it kind
14:10of get played out in a live action you know just in the simplest form whether it be television or movie
14:16but there's so many other things now with we have vr we have metaverses we have all sorts of stuff and i
14:23think there's a lot of of source material for us to draw from um you know and that and again like
14:30that was never really my approach it was really just to make you know comic books essentially
14:36just to tell these stories in a different way watch them get up off the record and come to life
14:41and now it's like yeah sure movies and television but there's just there's so many other places to
14:47stretch yeah um so it's really hard for me to wrap my head around all of them but you know at this at
14:54this at this stage i mean i'd like to do everything i mean i think these characters are
14:59yeah i think i think the characters are really you know when i see our fans and i see them resonate
15:05with certain characters that's so insane to me you know because at i never anticipated that i never
15:12anticipated anybody to see themselves connect with a character that was just not on the top of my head
15:17and like when you see that fans have like a favorite like you have ambelina on their arm or
15:22you know uh uh william ryan and you know it's just like wow you you know that's like me resonating
15:29with like freddy krueger darth vader you know it's so cool no absolutely i want to i want to talk about
15:36the fandom uh for a second here and i'm going to lead this uh part by saying that we got a tweet from a
15:42fellow musician um claudio it is a peanut from 311 and he's listening right now uh so he tweeted
15:49so i wanted to give a shout out to peanut who's listening this morning but you mentioned the fandom
15:55and i'm going to give you an example and and this is a this is a um killing two birds with one stone
15:59because i want to thank this listener this morning i came in and there was a box sitting over here in
16:03the studio and i'm like well what the hell is that and i read i open it up and first of all it is a
16:09four pack of the rush beer all right that was sent to me all right and it came with a letter it says
16:16preston a beer to share with a fellow rush fan these are not for export in the usa so i coordinated
16:22a delivery from henderson brewing company in toronto to an associate's friend in ontario
16:27it was then driven from ontario to michigan to his mother's house a work associate drove from
16:33michigan to ohio from ohio it was driven to harrisburg where i picked it up and i drove it
16:39home to langhorne pa and i now share a few with you that is from dean guterrez an mmr listener
16:45and so the reason i bring this up a i wanted to thank dean and second of all in the world of
16:51progressive rock you there there is a connection with the fans that i think is unique to itself
16:58and because of conceptual works like you guys do uh claudio there is um there's further discussion
17:06about the music other than i really like that song man that rhythm's great or this guitar part's
17:10really awesome it's you start talking about the subtext of the characters and the stories and all
17:16that stuff and it just makes for a really special fan base and i wanted to get you know your impressions
17:22on that yes we are we are so fortunate i mean our fan base isn't is just amazing that they get into all
17:30of those sorts of things like last uh like fall we did a cruise that sold out and it was and everyone
17:38was super respectful um it was just you know it's more of a family you know we see the same faces
17:45a lot of the time we've created relationships with our fans um you know it's it's something that
17:53again like i i just never thought i could only have dreamed of right and it's like half you know
17:59it's like happening um you know i wonder i wonder claudia how much of that connects to and you you come
18:06from a point of um of being shy and you know and i did stand-up comedy i'm doing this now but at the
18:12initially i was kind of shy and there's i think there's something i think that draws a certain you
18:18i you don't want to make blanket statements it's for everybody obviously if you enjoy but i i think
18:23you you're probably connecting in a way because that's well known about about you and your impetus
18:28for starting all this that the people who don't feel that there's something quite for them you're
18:34providing that i mean on a basic like we can sense your joy over being able to do that would
18:39would that be your greatest accomplishment you believe touching people who may be up to now
18:44haven't found that thing that resonates for them i think so absolutely i mean it's also like
18:50you know it also provides something for me like again going and being shy it's like it's hard for
18:55me to walk into a room of people i don't know and be uh be a personality you know i tend to kind of
19:01cower off and that's the whole idea of being you know the coheed line of one among the fence i'm the
19:06one you know at the dance like i'm the wallflower you know it's just not for me to to be a loud
19:15personality and being on stage allows me to do that it allows me to be around people with like-minded
19:21a thing and sure maybe it's something that i created that everyone's into but it allows me to
19:26like kind of be open you know it's a starting place for a conversation and and friendship uh so uh
19:33so yeah you know um maybe that is i i created friends you did you clearly did if you're just
19:41tuning in it's claudio sanchez who's with the coheed and cambria and they're going to be in town in
19:46july tickets go on sale with the show at the leah chorus center uh tomorrow at 10 a.m um we played
19:51the song shoulders as we were leading into the interview you guys have a new song called the liars
19:55club i saw the video really cool animation and and like i said at the top claudio not being aware
20:01of the full body of work of coheed and cambria liars club seems like it has a different tone to it
20:07from the other songs that i've kind of skimmed through in your catalog uh dare i say a little
20:12poppier i mean i'm trying to think of a of a better term but um but what what's the story behind
20:17this song and the sound of it all well yeah i mean you know a lot of this material was written
20:22pre-pandemic through the pandemic um and i was just kind of open to all ideas you know i figured you
20:29know you know here's an opportunity for me to to flex even shoulders shoulders feels like a
20:35a very new version i mean when that song was written it was you know primarily because you
20:39know our a and r had threw this idea at me i i was up for the challenge i created it i put it aside
20:46it wasn't going to come wasn't going to happen you know and then i brought it to uh my co-producer uh
20:51zach servini and he was like wow this is a vibe that's not on the record we should we should work
20:56with this and that became a song and kind of the same thing for liars club although liars club i
21:00think was a little more immediate um because i knew that that was you know i thought that was a
21:06theme that i really wanted to express on the record like who doesn't want to you know like embrace the
21:11lie sometimes you know when reality just isn't you know the way you see it um so oh no no i was just i
21:18was i was um i was just wondering as you were talking and and talking about that in preston's
21:22question um and you mentioned star wars earlier we have obviously we know you're a fan uh i think
21:28of george lucas who had the original vision and perhaps tries to go in different ways and he you
21:33know he got he's got eaten alive by his own fan base um do you feel do you feel you get the latitude
21:40from your fan base to go out on these sort of creative ventures that might depart slightly from your
21:47sound yeah i think so i mean because it's not something that's foreign from what we've done i mean
21:52it's definitely more we're definitely stretching with this new record more so than we have in the
21:56past but we've also laid the groundwork in past records to do things like this like if you guys
22:01fall into the uh into the discography at all um you'll find songs like evagria or number city um
22:09these are all songs that really kind of stretch outside of like what the comfort nucleus of what
22:15cody and cambria does so we're always kind of breaking out of that a bit um but we do it more so with
22:21this record i think it's really more appropriate because because of the theme of the album because
22:25the way the mind is opening up for this one character and we're starting to realize that
22:30it experiences infinite in like the like all infinite outcomes this one character of axis is like
22:37you know consumed with like instead of seeing the world as we see it he sees it as maybe the static of
22:44a television because he can see every outcome at one moment sounds like dr manhattan yeah right right
22:51right right right right but but almost so much so much more that he can't he physically can't can't
22:58re interact with any of them if that makes any sense into into like a catatonic state because it's so
23:03consuming so overwhelming um and that's uh and that's why i think you know it made sense conceptually
23:09to really kind of step outside of like i said uh the the the nucleus of what we do and kind of
23:15stretch like you'll hear songs like disappearing act which really kind of stretches the uh window of
23:20the waking mind there's all sorts of stuff on this record i'm really really proud of it myers club i
23:26thought was a really cool like statement to put out there just to kind of get everyone's feet wet you
23:31know um i i love these concepts it's really deep and heady stuff but let's go back just a little bit
23:37did your old band break up because of an argument over gas money is that correct no that's i don't
23:43know no but where is that from that's like is that like a that's like a quidditch
23:50wikipedia it was a wikipedia like wait a minute we're like what we definitely we definitely almost
23:59we almost broke up because of because of uh well there's there are several moments but like to be
24:06completely honest like when we first started when we coed first started back in 2002 like
24:12the attention to the band was so intense like we would play shows and opening for bands and we would
24:20play and once we were done like the place would empty oh it was it was like severe like we had no
24:27idea that that we were we had that impact at that time and and so it really got to me as like the guy
24:34with the hair the focus point it's like i didn't realize like how much of a magnet i would i would
24:39become and it it kind of scared me like so much so that you know i i did i broke down and gas
24:45hunting wasn't never you know i might have been like who the hell knows i have no idea but for real
24:50like you know uh you know my mentality was like disintegrating right wow and you know coming from
24:56like a person that you know again like i i am i am very much an introvert it was really hard to be
25:02like to have that so much attention when i grew up in my adolescence with none um so you know yeah
25:10were you guys were you guys friends first or bandmates first do you think
25:13travis and i have been friends since we were 13 like we start like i met him uh through a mutual friend
25:21who wanted to start a band so i guess we were bandmates before we even became friends if that makes
25:27any so before we even met we were going to be in a band uh but travis is like my you know travis is
25:32my brother i mean we friggin it's so wild how like insane like insane and in sync we are and
25:40how how at one point we will we want to kiss each other and another point we want to just strangle each
25:46other i mean it's like i mean yeah so we've been friends forever um josh i had known uh because our
25:53bands had played together he was in a different band and our scenes had crossed paths and uh and
25:59i remember this one story when josh and i were like we were drinking one time after a show we were in
26:04different bands at the time and we were on the side of the house you know urinating or whatever and i
26:08said to him and his band that to be honest had been signed to universal already they were off and
26:13about to become something uh but things had happened and i had said to him i said you know
26:17one day we're going to play in a band together and he was like yeah right like you know because
26:22their career was starting and uh and uh here we are so josh is you know josh i guess we had been
26:29friends you know i guess in a band first i'm not entirely sure how to answer that but but to be
26:34honest like josh just to just to go off you know i i play in a band with like some of the greatest
26:40musicians i think they get they're in my in my opinion i think they're very underrated
26:47um they don't really get like the like josh i mean i don't know if you guys have ever seen us play
26:51but he's like one of my the worst parts of my job is i don't really get to watch josh play
26:57because he is a he's just such a animated beautiful piece of art when he's behind the kit and uh you
27:04know i just think uh he needs more recognition as well as travis just very interesting people and
27:10zach zach is actually the newest member of the band i mean well when you say that it's like 10 years
27:14because our bass player original bass player got arrested for robbing the wahlberians i don't
27:18know if you guys know that yeah yeah that's better we were aware no but it's interesting how you know
27:27you you evolve as a band and how you have to like learn how to like be around each other in a whole
27:32bunch of different settings you're talking about tour buses you know pre-show on stage post-show
27:37and you know these are things that you just sort of have to like learn about each other and you know
27:42like you didn't make a vow to one another you know on an altar in front of a you know a whole
27:47bunch of people but like you want to make this work because uh it did work at a certain point so
27:53uh you know the the band today is different than the band five years ago is different than the band
27:5810 years ago and do you know what i mean absolutely i totally know what you mean because it is it's
28:05nobody really understands like what it's like to be locked in a van right that's that's how we came up
28:11you know five guys in a van you know well initially yeah five guys one you know and uh four members
28:18but you do you start to see personalities and people like you become family you know it's like
28:25you know living with you know who you're blood born to be with now you're in a band doing that
28:32you know and the quarters are way smaller yeah you know um yeah yeah right so it's like you know
28:40and you start to see these parts of people manifest myself included that it's like wow you know you
28:45really really get to know people um in a way that you don't with others and you know now we're lucky
28:51this life has afforded us the opportunity for the luxuries of buses and you know hotel rooms and things
28:57like that and you know 20 years into it like we all really have come to love what we do whereas
29:03like through that 20 year stretch there may have been times where we really disliked it um you know
29:11and not and not the artistic part but just that the living you know uh but for the most part i mean
29:16every day it feels like somebody talks about how excited and how grateful we are to be out wow that's
29:22great yeah it's an awesome place to be man and and your fans are loving that that you guys are
29:28having the success you are and you're coming to town and people have been stoked about the release
29:32of this album so it's really cool and judging by just glancing over our text messages you got a bunch
29:38of new fans from sitting down and talking with us too which is great oh sick i love it so the leocor
29:44center july 27th and tickets are available tomorrow at 10 a.m coheed and cambria.com the new album
29:51vaxes to a window of the waking mind make sure you get that we've been playing some songs from the
29:56album and uh we're just excited thanks so much for coming on this morning claudio and continued
30:00success to you and the band brother oh thank you very much and thank you for having me this was
30:05awesome i had a really good time excellent claudio sanchez guys of coheed and cambria and they're the
30:12real deal man they uh their their body of work is is dense it is just it's fun and by that i just don't
30:19mean by heavy in the music there's heavy there's a lot in the story well and this is everything
30:24that again you know when i was you're getting concept albums you were getting dramatic albums
30:29and all that stuff and you'd you'd be in that world this speaks to exactly that so i'm going to
30:35start moving through yeah the music because i i really like what i've been hearing yeah and i i love
30:40the whole concept uh of you know this thing that is it is the band that's so cool and press i i almost
30:48opened up a whole new uh door of conversation there because we were talking about being locked
30:52in a van with people and i just kept thinking about the the book that you turned me on to um project
30:59uh hail mary hail mary oh hail mary where you know they're they're in space and they they put
31:04these astronauts into suspended animation and it's not because they don't want them to age
31:09it's because if they had them in a spaceship for as long as they did they would murder each other
31:14like like that's a legit thing and so when you have these bands that are just on tour and they're on
31:19tour for the rest of you know this month and through march and then all through the summer like when
31:26you're locked in a in a room with people just think about how much you guys want to kill me after
31:30five hours of being in the studio and then times that by a thousand throw you on a bus with us
31:35we love you though man
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