Former UK official: Personal ties don’t matter in politics

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Former UK Minister of State for Europe Denis MacShane says personal ties mean little in politics so Trump and Meloni’s connection won’t change outcomes. #Trump #Meloni

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00:00Do you think personal relationships, having seen the goings-on in bilateral discussions

00:06that you've presumably been party to, do you think they matter in the context of trying

00:10to defuse a trade war like this one?

00:13Honestly, not.

00:14I would shuttlecock between Tony Blair and then-German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder or

00:19the French president or Dominique de Villepin, the foreign minister.

00:23I knew them well.

00:23I spoke French.

00:24I spoke German.

00:25I campaigned with Gerhard.

00:26And Schröder was a friendly pro-Blair guy, but he once just waved me away and said,

00:33no, Dennis, don't come and talk to me about what Tony Blair wants, because all I hear is

00:37the voice of Rupert Murdoch.

00:39And until Tony cuts free from Rupert Murdoch and speaks for Europe as well as simply the

00:45Murdoch position and everything, I'm not interested in him.

00:48That was just, you know, he was tired, exhausted at the end of a bad day of negotiations.

00:53So I think Mr. Trump will say, I love tariffs.

00:59Europe has been screwing us.

01:01Italy's been screwing us.

01:03You've not, you've taken advantage of America.

01:05Why?

01:06I mean, Italy has done nothing different from France, Spain, the Netherlands, Sweden, Great

01:12Britain in terms of trade with America.

01:14America, and the fact they have a small ideological affiliation, not really a very big one, I don't

01:21think is going to make any difference.

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