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Selena Uibo on how crime brought an end to Labor’s long reign in the NT
ABC NEWS (Australia)
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8 months ago
More than six months into her new role as leader of the Northern Territory's Labor opposition, Selena Uibo reflects on what went wrong for the party in the 2024 NT election.
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00:00
Selena Ubo, thank you for joining Stateline.
00:04
Thank you for having me.
00:05
It's just been a little over six months since Labor got demolished by the country Liberals
00:10
at the Territory election.
00:12
Where did it go so wrong for your party?
00:15
I think our previous government lost touch with what Territorians prioritise in those
00:20
key areas and key issues, and we definitely lost the confidence of Territory voters.
00:27
Where do you suspect the party got it wrong?
00:30
So I think losing touch with what Territorians prioritise definitely meant the loss was quite
00:37
a large one, which is what happened.
00:40
I think that having now been able to have some time to review and to really unpack that
00:47
loss, the areas of community safety, we didn't act fast enough in the previous government
00:54
to some of those concerns.
00:56
I think some of it was also the internal politics, not necessarily listening and staying in contact
01:03
with those key priorities across the communities of the Northern Territory.
01:07
I know that Territorians get very frustrated when politicians turn inwards, so I think
01:12
that it definitely hurt us as well.
01:14
Several of your former colleagues, including Kate Warden, Brent Potter, and the former
01:18
Chief Minister himself, Michael Gunner, have left the Northern Territory since the election.
01:23
Is this proof that their hearts weren't in the right place?
01:27
I wouldn't say that.
01:29
I would say that some of the changes after an election cycle can be quite difficult,
01:36
I would say, for a Labor politician to get a job across the Northern Territory.
01:40
We're a small, very interconnected community across the NT of less than 250,000 people,
01:48
and when you're a professional and looking at some of that change-making work, I think
01:53
your options are limited outside of politics.
01:56
You've conceded that the former Labor government should have acted sooner on law and order
02:00
in the Northern Territory.
02:02
This week alone, there's been murder charges laid, stabbings and assaults in Darwin, Palmerston,
02:08
Alice Springs and Beswick, and that's not even to name all of it.
02:12
When do you concede that this is a national emergency, and what are you going to do about it?
02:18
I think that the investment of a good government, any good government, regardless of what side
02:23
of politics they are, needs to invest in preventative measures, not just punitive measures like
02:29
what we're seeing the CLP government do now in the Northern Territory.
02:33
If we're to see the Northern Territory thrive, we need to invest and continue investment
02:38
in education, in healthcare access, into safe and adequate housing, and into particularly
02:44
domestic, family, sexual violence prevention.
02:48
Currently 1% of the Northern Territory's population is in prison.
02:53
What do you think this says about the Territory's historical failure to rehabilitate people?
02:58
I think that we could have done more, absolutely, but again, the inroads started under the former
03:05
Labor government around justice reinvestment, around the Aboriginal Justice Agreement.
03:10
I think the process under the new CLP government needs to not just look at the punitive measures,
03:19
yes, absolutely, consequences need to occur, but the investment into breaking the cycle
03:26
of crime, addressing the social determinants of crime, also need to be the responsibility
03:31
of the government.
03:33
We have a federal election looming.
03:35
Do you think that Territorians will vote against Labor federally the same way that they did
03:40
at the Territory election?
03:41
I think Territorians will make their choice very soon, of course, when the federal election
03:47
is called.
03:48
I think we'll see those areas of key service delivery to the Northern Territory become
03:53
the priority.
03:54
I don't think we're going to see anything positive offered up by the federal coalition
04:00
in those areas of health, housing, education, to support our economy.
04:05
I think it's going to be very narrow.
04:06
I don't think they're going to focus on supporting the Northern Territory in the way that our
04:11
federal Labor government has done so.
04:14
What impact do you think the failed voice referendum will have on Labor's chances federally?
04:20
I think a lot of people across the Northern Territory were quite frustrated with the amount
04:26
of money spent on the campaign for the federal referendum around the voice.
04:32
I think we'll see maybe some backlash in the federal election.
04:37
I think Territorians have moved on and will be focused on those key cost of living areas
04:42
like education and particularly childcare in the Northern Territory and looking for
04:47
the support that families and individuals need here in the Territory when it comes to
04:51
the cost of living.
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