00:00I'm finding it more difficult, frankly, to deal with Ukraine.
00:04And they don't have the cards.
00:06They don't have the cards.
00:08As you know, we're meeting in Saudi Arabia sometime next week, early.
00:13And we're talking...
00:15I find that in terms of getting a final settlement,
00:20it may be easier dealing with Russia,
00:22which is surprising, because they have all the cards.
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