00:00This is Sonia Aleso from CETERA. Sonia, this is Luis Novalesio. Good morning, 24. How are you?
00:05How are you? Good morning, Luis. How are you?
00:07Good. We've known Sonia Aleso for many years from the city of Rosario, and we keep asking the same thing.
00:14Are the classes starting, Sonia?
00:17Look, tomorrow we have the national plenary of CETERA with the whole country.
00:22That's what we're going to be analyzing. We had planned a plenary meeting last week.
00:31They had told us that there would be one. Then they told us that this one was going to happen.
00:36So far, no plenary meeting has been confirmed.
00:40On the 24th, most of the hearings start, and we still don't have any information.
00:46Salaries are very low. The government didn't pay back the national funds that have to go to the provinces.
00:57There is a request not only from the teachers' unions, but also from the ministers of education of the provinces,
01:03or from some governors as well, to pay back the funds.
01:10If the funds were to be updated, today every teacher in Argentina would charge 200,000 pesos more.
01:17At a time when we have a national teacher's floor of 450,000 pesos with a food budget of one million.
01:27Repeat this, Sonia. The floor today is 450,000 pesos?
01:32Yes. Yes. We haven't had an update.
01:37Today, one of the data that we are handling is published in Clarín,
01:43that a small family needs at least two million pesos.
01:48In the last study of this month of CETERA, we were told that the minimum food budget,
01:56without thinking about the rent, is 1,090,000 pesos.
02:04Yes, of course.
02:06We have a very high percentage, I always reiterate this because it seems to be forgotten,
02:11of women who support their families.
02:14Today, a typical family that lives in Capital, that lives in Rosario, that lives in Córdoba,
02:20pays a rent of 500,000 pesos for a two-room apartment.
02:26And that is more than what a teacher charges on the national floor.
02:34Then the national average is higher.
02:37I mean, there are jurisdictions that pay more than 450,000.
02:42Yes, in fact, jurisdictions that pay less in Catamarca are 420,000.
02:47And I also want to deactivate this argument that says,
02:51well, that's just for one shift.
02:53Because if a teacher works two shifts, I say,
02:55this thing of believing that it has been heard that the teacher works three hours or four hours,
03:00because the truth is that they are 450,000 pesos in some districts.
03:04Let's stop joking. I mean, this is what we are talking about.
03:06And also, there is a very high percentage that does not have a double shift.
03:11In addition, there are provinces that do not allow the double shift.
03:15And also, let's say that the explanation is slave labor.
03:19Because any teacher or anyone who has a family, a teacher family,
03:25knows that the teacher has time for work at school and time for work outside of school, not remunerated.
03:35And that is one of the issues that feminists, feminists,
03:39we have been claiming, not only for teachers, but for many working women,
03:46which is the issue that the non-remunerated work of women does not seem to vary.
03:51When it comes to jobs mostly occupied by men, there are paid hours.
03:57When it comes to non-remunerated women ...
04:00Sonia, I wanted to ask you, because ...
04:01That's what happens to teachers.
04:03I wanted to ask you, following the previous reference,
04:06regarding Catamarca, that the minimum wage is 420,000 pesos in teachers.
04:10So there are also provinces like ...
04:13My number in Catamarca is 450,000.
04:17I want to clarify it.
04:19It's okay, it's a debt relief from another of the unions.
04:23No, my data, the data, etc.
04:26The provincial relief, I have it in front of me while I talk to you, is that it is 450,000 in Catamarca.
04:31Okay, it's perfect.
04:32There are 30,000 pesos more.
04:34Let's see, in Tierra del Fuego, in Santa Cruz and in Rio Negro, what is the minimum wage?
05:04Today it is very high. The same thing happens in Rio Negro.
05:07The same thing happens in, let's say, in the Patagonian provinces or Petroleras,
05:14the lowest wage of the teacher.
05:16That is also ...
05:18And the cost of living in Petroleras is much higher than in the provinces of the central zone.
05:25I mean, to say goodbye and to make it clear to us.
05:27Today, when it is Wednesday, February 19, at 11.35 p.m.,
05:31the start of the 2025 elective cycle is not guaranteed?
05:35No, not today.
05:37We will see tomorrow what happens in the plenary of the Secretary-General.
05:40I want to be very clear.
05:42We have waited a long time.
05:44We have asked for a meeting since January.
05:47We have raised from the first days of February.
05:50They have told us that there was going to be a meeting one day,
05:53that there was going to be a meeting another day.
05:55And that has been happening.
05:57We are very few days from the start of the elective cycle.
06:00I will add another thing that worries me.
06:03The issue of the Alces Sustainability Guarantee Fund.
06:07The teachers who charge for the national cash,
06:11which is half of the provinces,
06:13because in the other provinces we charge by provincial cash,
06:16it is strongly commented these days that the government,
06:22to stop the dollar, used the Guarantee Fund.
06:25I want to tell you that the teachers of half of the provinces of Argentina
06:29and the university students charge the jubilation
06:32for that fund that is in the Alces.
06:36We are trying to confirm if it is true that those funds were used,
06:41but it is a secret in many sectors of journalism
06:47that they are raising that,
06:49and also people who are very linked to the provisional issue.
06:53I hope it is not like that,
06:55because the jubilation of teachers and university students depends on that.
06:59Thank you Sonia, we will meet at any time.
07:01See you later, a hug.
07:03Sonia Aleso, the head of CETERA.
07:06Well, you're right.
07:07Not so long ago, when they told you, the QR was a cryptic thing.
07:11Today we know everything.
07:12The pandemic left us the QR as an inheritance.
07:15The QR is born in a certain way to avoid contact,
07:18and it has grown, especially in the last 4 or 5 years,
07:22the way that when you see a code of this,
07:25it no longer tells you what it is.
07:27You know that by scanning it with your cell phone,
07:29you are going to direct it to an application or a website or something like that.
07:32When we started this program, Good Day to 24,
07:34I told you that we were going to tell you every scam or possibility of scam
07:38to try to prevent you,
07:39even if the scam comes from another place.
07:42What you are seeing is from Spain.
07:43The National Police of Spain had to go out to communicate.
07:46Attentive.
07:47Because in parking applications, which work in Argentina,
07:50we have in several municipalities applications that serve
07:52for you to charge money, precisely, to be able to park.
07:56Well, this was appearing, what you see here.
07:59What is it?
08:00It is a label of a different QR code,
08:03pasted on the official QR code.
08:05Wow.
08:06Let's go to the basics.
08:07What is a QR code?
08:08A QR code is the way to redirect you to a place,
08:11to a page, to an application.
08:13The information that is here is a website.
08:16www.cenmobile.com, for example,
08:19which is where you download the parking application in Argentina,
08:22from some municipalities.
08:24What happens?
08:25By pasting a code, I can go anywhere here.
08:28And in fact, what they were warning is that they redirected to pages,
08:32which were, or a page that is the same as the parking page,
08:36but where you, when loading your data,
08:38loading your card and wanting to buy credit to be able to park,
08:42you are giving money to the criminals.
08:44What do you have to do?
08:45How do I do?
08:46Well, in the face of all QR code,
08:48whether you go to a place,
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