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Sonia Alesso, representante de CTERA, discute en una entrevista con Luis Novaresio la incertidumbre que rodea el inicio del año escolar en Argentina. Menciona la falta de confirmación para las reuniones paritarias y cómo los salarios docentes están quedando por debajo del piso nacional. Además, destaca la problemática del trabajo no remunerado fuera de las horas escolares y cuestiona el uso de fondos destinados a las jubilaciones docentes.

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00:00This is Sonia Aleso from CETERA. Sonia, this is Luis Novalesio. Good morning, 24. How are you?
00:05How are you? Good morning, Luis. How are you?
00:07Good. We've known Sonia Aleso for many years from the city of Rosario, and we keep asking the same thing.
00:14Are the classes starting, Sonia?
00:17Look, tomorrow we have the national plenary of CETERA with the whole country.
00:22That's what we're going to be analyzing. We had planned a plenary meeting last week.
00:31They had told us that there would be one. Then they told us that this one was going to happen.
00:36So far, no plenary meeting has been confirmed.
00:40On the 24th, most of the hearings start, and we still don't have any information.
00:46Salaries are very low. The government didn't pay back the national funds that have to go to the provinces.
00:57There is a request not only from the teachers' unions, but also from the ministers of education of the provinces,
01:03or from some governors as well, to pay back the funds.
01:10If the funds were to be updated, today every teacher in Argentina would charge 200,000 pesos more.
01:17At a time when we have a national teacher's floor of 450,000 pesos with a food budget of one million.
01:27Repeat this, Sonia. The floor today is 450,000 pesos?
01:32Yes. Yes. We haven't had an update.
01:37Today, one of the data that we are handling is published in Clarín,
01:43that a small family needs at least two million pesos.
01:48In the last study of this month of CETERA, we were told that the minimum food budget,
01:56without thinking about the rent, is 1,090,000 pesos.
02:04Yes, of course.
02:06We have a very high percentage, I always reiterate this because it seems to be forgotten,
02:11of women who support their families.
02:14Today, a typical family that lives in Capital, that lives in Rosario, that lives in Córdoba,
02:20pays a rent of 500,000 pesos for a two-room apartment.
02:26And that is more than what a teacher charges on the national floor.
02:34Then the national average is higher.
02:37I mean, there are jurisdictions that pay more than 450,000.
02:42Yes, in fact, jurisdictions that pay less in Catamarca are 420,000.
02:47And I also want to deactivate this argument that says,
02:51well, that's just for one shift.
02:53Because if a teacher works two shifts, I say,
02:55this thing of believing that it has been heard that the teacher works three hours or four hours,
03:00because the truth is that they are 450,000 pesos in some districts.
03:04Let's stop joking. I mean, this is what we are talking about.
03:06And also, there is a very high percentage that does not have a double shift.
03:11In addition, there are provinces that do not allow the double shift.
03:15And also, let's say that the explanation is slave labor.
03:19Because any teacher or anyone who has a family, a teacher family,
03:25knows that the teacher has time for work at school and time for work outside of school, not remunerated.
03:35And that is one of the issues that feminists, feminists,
03:39we have been claiming, not only for teachers, but for many working women,
03:46which is the issue that the non-remunerated work of women does not seem to vary.
03:51When it comes to jobs mostly occupied by men, there are paid hours.
03:57When it comes to non-remunerated women ...
04:00Sonia, I wanted to ask you, because ...
04:01That's what happens to teachers.
04:03I wanted to ask you, following the previous reference,
04:06regarding Catamarca, that the minimum wage is 420,000 pesos in teachers.
04:10So there are also provinces like ...
04:13My number in Catamarca is 450,000.
04:17I want to clarify it.
04:19It's okay, it's a debt relief from another of the unions.
04:23No, my data, the data, etc.
04:26The provincial relief, I have it in front of me while I talk to you, is that it is 450,000 in Catamarca.
04:31Okay, it's perfect.
04:32There are 30,000 pesos more.
04:34Let's see, in Tierra del Fuego, in Santa Cruz and in Rio Negro, what is the minimum wage?
05:04Today it is very high. The same thing happens in Rio Negro.
05:07The same thing happens in, let's say, in the Patagonian provinces or Petroleras,
05:14the lowest wage of the teacher.
05:16That is also ...
05:18And the cost of living in Petroleras is much higher than in the provinces of the central zone.
05:25I mean, to say goodbye and to make it clear to us.
05:27Today, when it is Wednesday, February 19, at 11.35 p.m.,
05:31the start of the 2025 elective cycle is not guaranteed?
05:35No, not today.
05:37We will see tomorrow what happens in the plenary of the Secretary-General.
05:40I want to be very clear.
05:42We have waited a long time.
05:44We have asked for a meeting since January.
05:47We have raised from the first days of February.
05:50They have told us that there was going to be a meeting one day,
05:53that there was going to be a meeting another day.
05:55And that has been happening.
05:57We are very few days from the start of the elective cycle.
06:00I will add another thing that worries me.
06:03The issue of the Alces Sustainability Guarantee Fund.
06:07The teachers who charge for the national cash,
06:11which is half of the provinces,
06:13because in the other provinces we charge by provincial cash,
06:16it is strongly commented these days that the government,
06:22to stop the dollar, used the Guarantee Fund.
06:25I want to tell you that the teachers of half of the provinces of Argentina
06:29and the university students charge the jubilation
06:32for that fund that is in the Alces.
06:36We are trying to confirm if it is true that those funds were used,
06:41but it is a secret in many sectors of journalism
06:47that they are raising that,
06:49and also people who are very linked to the provisional issue.
06:53I hope it is not like that,
06:55because the jubilation of teachers and university students depends on that.
06:59Thank you Sonia, we will meet at any time.
07:01See you later, a hug.
07:03Sonia Aleso, the head of CETERA.
07:06Well, you're right.
07:07Not so long ago, when they told you, the QR was a cryptic thing.
07:11Today we know everything.
07:12The pandemic left us the QR as an inheritance.
07:15The QR is born in a certain way to avoid contact,
07:18and it has grown, especially in the last 4 or 5 years,
07:22the way that when you see a code of this,
07:25it no longer tells you what it is.
07:27You know that by scanning it with your cell phone,
07:29you are going to direct it to an application or a website or something like that.
07:32When we started this program, Good Day to 24,
07:34I told you that we were going to tell you every scam or possibility of scam
07:38to try to prevent you,
07:39even if the scam comes from another place.
07:42What you are seeing is from Spain.
07:43The National Police of Spain had to go out to communicate.
07:46Attentive.
07:47Because in parking applications, which work in Argentina,
07:50we have in several municipalities applications that serve
07:52for you to charge money, precisely, to be able to park.
07:56Well, this was appearing, what you see here.
07:59What is it?
08:00It is a label of a different QR code,
08:03pasted on the official QR code.
08:05Wow.
08:06Let's go to the basics.
08:07What is a QR code?
08:08A QR code is the way to redirect you to a place,
08:11to a page, to an application.
08:13The information that is here is a website.
08:16www.cenmobile.com, for example,
08:19which is where you download the parking application in Argentina,
08:22from some municipalities.
08:24What happens?
08:25By pasting a code, I can go anywhere here.
08:28And in fact, what they were warning is that they redirected to pages,
08:32which were, or a page that is the same as the parking page,
08:36but where you, when loading your data,
08:38loading your card and wanting to buy credit to be able to park,
08:42you are giving money to the criminals.
08:44What do you have to do?
08:45How do I do?
08:46Well, in the face of all QR code,
08:48whether you go to a place,
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