00:00It is official. The Cowboys are not bringing back Mike McCarthy
00:06Why me I said this before
00:09If you're gonna bring me back if you're gonna bring him back why not let him interview. I didn't want to show my hand
00:16The listen the rich like to hold you up to a contract
00:20So he just wanted to do it just because you know
00:23Like we just Jerry strike is the guy who's ever gonna like just do you a solid? I don't think so
00:29Mm-hmm
00:30like why does he always get to these contract disputes at the very last minute because I'm gonna hold you to it a
00:36Man's word is his bond
00:40What what Wow, I didn't surprise he made that much
00:46Ten million this year one year ten million. Yeah
00:50Yeah
00:52But don't worry. That's got Raiders written all over it
00:56That's what I'm saying though, dude, someone's gonna pay him
00:59Someone it's gonna happen. Yeah, but he can't get give him a two or three-year deal. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't
01:06Yeah, I think that's probably the heavy like I almost would say like hey to your deal
01:10That's the most I'd go on it, which those never and he's still Sam. He's still Sam Donald. He's still 27
01:16This is what we learned. Like was he a fool? That's the thing. That's the one thing
01:21Mm-hmm that piques my interest if I'm a team that he's still 27. Yeah, I
01:28Know because yeah, this is playing getting drafted by the Jets. It's like going through some Thibodeau years
01:35Same thing with Cleveland
01:37Well, not as much cleavage. They were Cleveland. Well, no because Baker has a
01:42Bigger one a playoff game and how did you guys treat him for that? Yeah, and how many first guys treat him?
01:48Sam Donald had no success. No, he had no success only ghosts
01:54How about the both the fact that they were both in Carol
01:57Yeah, that's crazy, right?
02:00It was like the land of misfit toys
02:032018 draft. Um, yeah, I don't know man. I I think somebody will give him a shot but
02:11Unless the coach really likes him and then he wants to trade the rookie, but I don't think that's what they're gonna
02:16Usually a coach loves who he drafts
02:21Keep in mind
02:23You do understand JJ McCarthy won the job
02:27So he was gonna start in front of Sam Darnell. Yeah
02:31And why would you didn't keep Sam Darnell and get rid of the guy who was 14 games with him? I don't know
02:37Okay, I don't know. Okay
02:39Get a hold. Let me
02:41Know
02:43What would you do?
02:44I'd start a rookie
02:46Cuz like if you think if that guy could do that with Sam, well, how much money you got to pay?
02:50Sam don't know is the kicker. Yeah, right. So if you give him three years 30 million, you still don't have 50 million
02:58Tied up in in your
03:00One position the only thing that is the difference. No, what about here's what I would say
03:05I would say if you're gonna do that, then you trade JJ McCarthy and then you probably get you probably get
03:09I'm sure somebody would trade for you you if you would trade for JJ McCarthy
03:13You could get three first rounders because he would be the number one. That's what I say. That's what they say, but I'm no
03:20No, no, no, because that's cuz you love JJ McCarthy. No, no, that's not why I think it is because
03:28Nobody knows how good JJ McCarthy really is
03:33More than in my Minnesota Vikings
03:36So if they do trade him that means that they didn't think
03:41That he can outperform sand
03:44Playing the way he did. This is the Alex Smith situation. Is it not like it's it's exactly I mean, it's not as no
03:49But they signed but they brought Alex Smith in and he sat for what two years
03:53No, I'm saying I'm talking. No, I'm talking about the
03:58Kansas City Chiefs
04:00He still played two years. Was it two years? He played two years
04:03No, but he was a draft he was essentially a draft bust
04:07He went to Kansas City. They won a lot of games, but they felt like they peaked and they handed it over to Patrick
04:12Mahomes
04:20I think most people would say Alex Smith is now you probably look at it his whole career
04:23But he ended up on the Kansas City Chiefs if he's not sticking with the team that they went Kaepernick
04:27They went cheap with Kaepernick. Mmm
04:30That's up a ship
04:34That guy was a quarterback for nothing but like teams were mostly winning records
04:38You think hold on you think that out mean something you think Alex Smith has looked upon as a successful pick by the 49ers
04:45I don't think so
04:47Way if you take your team to NFC title game in a couple of playoff appearances, well, okay, here's what I'll give you the example
04:54Jared Goff
04:56Rams draft bust no bust no dude super boss. No, no, no
05:03Let me clarify this
05:06Sometimes people draft players on what they can do for their team. Okay
05:14It doesn't always work out
05:16But if that guy goes on
05:18To have success
05:20Somewhere else. He wasn't a bust. He just didn't fit what you want for your team. He's a bust
05:26No, no egg monogamy right started this year for the commanders doing some good things, but we'll be a Dolphins draft
05:36Doesn't matter dude draft bus
05:50Baker Mayfield, here's the difference. He was hurt bigger maybe hurt and
05:55They kicked they they they actually made the bust with the free agent signing, right
06:00Here's what I would say
06:02When you draft a prospect
06:05You're drafting him
06:07Based on his abilities to play in this league for however long
06:13right
06:14If a guy goes on to play 10 12 13 years, I'm not talking about backup quarterback, right?
06:20But if a guy goes on to play
06:23In the NFL
06:25for 9 10 11 12 years
06:29That wasn't a draft bust. It means it just didn't work out for you
06:39So was I Cleveland Browns bus
06:42No, how many years you play for them I
06:45Played well the team moved to Baltimore and then they oh, that's not your fault unforeseen circumstances
06:53So
06:55Wait, so wait, wait, wait, so let's figure this out. And in fact, they try to replace you. No was Brett Favre and
07:04Atlanta Falcons bust absolutely
07:07They traded him doesn't matter didn't work out
07:13See you're drafting a prospect based on what he can do at this level
07:20Right and depending on what the circumstances are with your coach or whatever it might not fit
07:27What you're doing? It doesn't mean the guy can't play. So it's okay
07:34Me is Jim Marcus Russell. Okay, but it's Sam Donald a bust
07:40He's a bust
07:42But look at the chaos
07:46Was Aaron Rodgers a bus, why would he be a bus a free agent pickup like
08:02Zero success
08:04I
08:21Said Baker wasn't a bus because they they went to get to Sean Watson like they didn't they didn't purely
08:27Iraq they didn't purely
08:30Send out Baker Mayfield because of performance they send about injury and because they thought the Sean Watson was better. Okay, we're
08:38You're saying mega Fitzpatrick is a bus
08:41No, cuz big if it's Patrick demanded a trade
08:44Okay
08:46He demanded a trade. No, I look at it. He's the better. Are you if every person you dress?
08:53plays
08:56Seven to ten plus years. Yeah, every single person you dress. Yeah, you are a good drafter of talent. Mm-hmm
09:04He's got to work out for you
09:06Has to like for example, I'm asking this then. Yeah, is your quarterback a bus so far? No
09:12Not yet, but he had to work for you. You haven't won a playoff game. You haven't won a division
09:17He's not a bust, but he's also not a star. He's just
09:22He's like a lazy river of okay, you got
09:25So but you're saying I mean that was a ridiculous argument. I can't
09:29He hates Aaron Rodgers. He won't
09:32I'm just saying you use that you use the free agent thing with Deshaun Watson and
09:38Say yeah, that was a free agent, but no no
09:40He was asking if Baker was a bus for the Browns, right?
09:43And I'm saying no because the circumstances that the bus was the free agent. It was more of a bust
09:48Okay, but I'm talking more draft
09:51Rodgers is he a free agent bust now? He's a bust but he wasn't a bus for pick for the Packers
09:56That's a ridiculous thing. Okay. No, no, no, I got you now if Liam Eichenberg goes off
10:01It becomes a pro bowler with the Vikings. Yeah, he's a Dolphins bust. I don't make the rules
10:07But that's not on
10:09If you're a bus on the team and then go somewhere else and have success, right?
10:15You're not the bus the bus is with the organization how they use
10:20Me to just ask a good question with Stafford a bus with the Lions. No, what?
10:25But we went oh and six. No, we did it. You keep saying that. No, he did
10:30He was the guy they got for Owen 16. Oh
10:34So they drafted him after yeah
10:37Okay, but then right after that they were what I don't think you can be the franchise all-time passer and be a bus
10:43I think them is the rules minus one. Wait, what I think I know you had zero success
10:49You didn't win a playoff game. Did they make the playoffs?
10:56But but wait, so
11:10You just look at a bus to tell him he's a bust
11:13You you're saying Jared Goff is a bus in as a ramp
11:16Absolutely when he went to the Super Bowl if you are traded and ousted from a Super Bowl team that automatically makes you
11:25Traded for another number one pick what are you talking about?
11:27What happened with that number one pick won the Super Bowl not a bust?
11:30But Jared Goff now he couldn't now he could go and prove them a fool dude if he goes away
11:36Hey
11:38You're the guy he's the friend that you guys go out to like a cigar bar or something and you sitting around
11:47Drinking and smoking your cigar or something and you the guy the friend that everybody wants to kick your ass, which which a hot takes
11:54This is ridiculous. It's houses. Sean Watson a Texans bus. No
11:59He wanted out
12:01Then apparently, you know
12:03Was two hours
12:05On first but the football when he was on the Texans not a bus
12:12Problem
12:15I think it's pretty I think it's pretty self-explanatory
12:17Is it? Yeah, cuz I'm confused as hell. Why because you're you're like, yeah
12:23How have you you don't get to just or how would you maneuver? How have you maneuvered your way around?
12:29You don't get to just like here's what I'm just saying. I want to make this clear. You can't just erase your bus status
12:35It's not it's not it's not possible
12:37So what you claim something somebody a bus their bus forever a fan base. You're a bust. You can't augment it. No
12:44No immunity. You can't augment bus. So you can't
12:49Was right at him a bus. It's a good question. I would say no I would say no play for like 30 years
12:56He was fine
12:56If you're good enough to play if you're good enough to hold a job in some capacity in this league for a long period of time
13:03You're not a bus it just didn't work for you. What about all those top five picks that two years I tell you who's a bus
13:10Rosen Oh
13:12Maybe the bustiest of buses. No, he ain't more buzzes your Marcus your Marcus. That's the bark Ryan leaf
13:19Josh Rosen was right him couch. Josh wasn't was so a Harrington
13:24Hear this out. Josh Rosen was so bad. He not only got he not only got ousted as being a number three pick
13:31Okay, what was it what was he number 10, I don't remember here's one he was a first-round pick they ousted him for one year
13:38They're like wolf went to the Dolphins for a second round pick and the Dolphins played him one game alike. No, thanks
13:45That's two franchises. That's more of a bus than Jamarcus Russell here ready
13:51Here's one
13:53tray Lance bust
13:55Now now is he a bus and here's what I
14:02Get upset about because your franchise the franchise you get picked by
14:11Trades a whole bunch of assets to move up to pick you it didn't change your talent level
14:19Right just because they thought it was that important. Yeah, you see what I'm saying?
14:24You call him a bus cuz it didn't work out maybe never was that damn good and they were wrong and
14:30Evaluating him at that. That's not how bus no bus works. If you get picked high and you don't work out you're a bus
14:35It's not their mistake
14:46We'll tell him so wait, yeah according to you according to you. Mm-hmm
14:53Drew B Drew Brees was a bus for the Chargers. No
14:58No
14:59Circumstances put them in a position to get away
15:03You have been what the circle he had a good last year with the Chargers
15:07But why are you the person that determines what rules to apply for bus?
15:15Oh
15:18Standard rules because we've given same similar situation. No, I got it ready. Yeah, I'm gonna combine both of your premises
15:27You can't be a bus if
15:30You played longer than five years
15:32Because you're gonna get you're gonna get what the NFL gives you if you get to a second contract, right?
15:39And you're part of the NFL NFL's, uh, you know with that team though pension checks and all of that it doesn't matter
15:46No, if you go to another team, you could still you're still a bus for your ass franchise. So is Jadavia clowny a bus
15:52Yes
15:54Really? Yeah, I would say so. How about what's the old boy playing? He plays for the Saints now from Ohio State
16:01the Russian
16:03He got drafted. Oh chase young chase. Yeah
16:07Yeah, he's a bus bus
16:09But he has it. He has that Jadavia and clowny in him, right?
16:12Yeah, but like he's dominant, but he don't really make no play. I think we all got fooled by that that tackle against, Michigan
16:20But that was an assault but but he's so let me ask you this Tobin
16:26Yeah, if there's a lot of expectations with you. Mm-hmm
16:31We put those expectations on these guys, okay may never be that good to start off with a matter
16:36That's what comes with responsibility. Tell you why cuz like in the NBA version
16:39Some people might would think Joe Smith was a bus
16:42He was the number one pick back in the days, but he played 12 years in the NBA and he was a solid frontcourt player
16:48So is it expectations? If you don't live up to the expectation expectation, I'll give it a perfect guy
16:54We had a view but you still played and
16:57Contributed are you considered a bus? Yes
17:00Okay, Michael Beasley, and I love him, right? I love Michael Beasley
17:05Oh, yeah, because he was number two in the draft. That's different bust. Oh
17:08J. Mayo, he played a long time to us. Oh
17:11J. Mayo
17:13How long do I look 15 years?
17:15Yeah, but he never he never ever was that score because he's a bust dude. I remind her bus
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