NFL Teams Cling to Playoff Hopes Despite Poor Records

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00:00Cincinnati at four and six or even at four and seven.

00:06Denver at five and five.

00:07The Colts at four and six.

00:08We're dogs today against the three and seven Jets.

00:10How about the Miami Dolphins?

00:12They're leasing again.

00:13I understand.

00:13They're three and six right now.

00:15Second place.

00:16Six losses is about all you need to feel like you are actually

00:19in the mix and they're a seven point favorite today.

00:23I'm going to go to you first on just because I know you and

00:25I have talked about this scenario once before a few years

00:28back in an NL wildcard race where again, it was just it was

00:31a very fun season.

00:32I'm like Donnie.

00:33I think they're getting in.

00:33You're like, they're terrible.

00:34I'm like, you're right.

00:35Yeah, still getting in because they have to put another team

00:38in that playoff spot.

00:39And that is what we are getting in the AFC right now.

00:42No, you we are getting that and also case in point the Miami

00:45Dolphins.

00:45They are dead in the water.

00:46They can't make the playoffs.

00:47They're horrible.

00:48It is a joke that they're actually in second place officially

00:50in the AFC East with the record.

00:52They have but let's take a look.

00:53They went on the road and beat the Rams.

00:54I don't think they will beat the Rams.

00:55I thought that would be dead and buried at the end of the

00:57season and Tyree kill would actually be getting surgery on

00:59his wrist and you'd never hear from the rest of the way they

01:02play the Raiders today at home followed by the Patriots at

01:04home. You stack on two more wins there.

01:06They're starting to believe again.

01:07Now granted you go on the road against the Packers would be

01:10a tough one, but then you get the Jets the following week

01:12who again are fighting for those same spots.

01:15So it is kind of interesting where you try to be dead and

01:17buried on some of these teams in case in point Kevin again

01:20is talking about the Cincinnati Bengals out on them to start

01:22the season to make the playoffs for me out on the after three

01:25weeks to make the playoffs and here I am late in the season

01:27going, you know what there's a good price in a pathway.

01:29I can see them still making the playoffs.

01:31Why Joe because so many teams are in the same boat here.

01:33You're just trying to catch lightning at a bottle, but the

01:35thing we get caught up is they're there for a reason with

01:37that like we're saying, oh they can win this they can win this

01:39they haven't won these games, which is why they're in this

01:41spot, which makes it so tough to gauge it is and you know,

01:44like Miami.

01:45I'm a little torn like when you just look at the value right

01:48for Miami at three and six.

01:50Yes, you believe that they could be there because of the

01:53playmakers that they have.

01:55Yeah, but we watch that game play out on Monday night

01:59defensively.

01:59That was one of their best efforts all season long.

02:02Now.

02:02I have concerns offensively, you know is Tyreek a hundred

02:06percent.

02:07Is he the same player?

02:08They can't get him the same type of opportunities for some

02:11reason since to a got hurt early on in the season.

02:15I don't know why it was more Jalen Waddle as the primary

02:18wide receiver for that offense outside of Tyreek now Tyreek

02:22did score but again, I don't know how that's going to play

02:25out over the course of the regular season.

02:27And again, are we going to get that type of effort defensively

02:31from Miami week to week to week?

02:34I don't see it.

02:35I just I'm refusing that right now at this point to buy in

02:40and I actually think the Raiders potentially coming off the

02:43buy or live with the seven today.

02:45Okay.

02:46Yeah, or no.

02:47I thought you were saying to make the playoffs are live or

02:49live today, you know rested.

02:51They've lost five straight.

02:53So I want to see that defense come into form.

02:56They dominate today.

02:57They win by 1417 the way they're supposed to and that defense

03:01shuts down Gardner.

03:02I might take Donnie's take and say, you know what this a

03:04playoff caliber team.

03:05And I just think this is one of those things, right?

03:07And we see this all the time within sports books where there's

03:10seven spots available and there's 19 to the minus price to

03:12make it go on now.

03:14Hold on a second.

03:15We don't have seven teams at a minus price Cincinnati's plus

03:19138 Denver plus 190 culture plus 225 and Miami is plus 285.

03:26You want to get crazy?

03:28The Jets are plus 710.

03:30I don't know if we still want to keep doing that dance, but

03:32you get like here's the thing.

03:34The Colts price says they're in the mix.

03:36They're a four-point dog to the Jets today.

03:39If the favorite comes in the Jets and the Colts have the same

03:43exact record.

03:44Yeah again, if the favorites come in the Jets will have the

03:48same record as the Cincinnati Bengals like that's where we

03:53are right now and Joe trust me.

03:55I don't want to be the person sitting here telling you the

03:56Jets can make the playoffs.

03:57I find everything they've done to be in a complete abomination,

04:00but it is one of those things man that someone is going to

04:04get in.

04:05Yes, someone's going to get it Cincinnati's going to go to

04:07minus if they beat the Chargers tonight, but that is that

04:11coin flip game.

04:12If it lands tails, it opens up the field.

04:15You're right.

04:15So let's I'll take it a step further.

04:17The eye test right in terms of how Cincinnati for me out of

04:22all those passes the eye test because they've gone toe-to-toe

04:26seeing what I saw play out offensively for Aaron Rodgers.

04:29Yep.

04:29They're dead to me.

04:30Yeah.

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