00:00Hello everybody, Tereno here, and welcome to the first episode of a new series, my proposed
00:05international tank tech tree series. I should actually explain, because I did tell everyone
00:10I was going to do the French tech tree next, but basically just before I could get round
00:15to doing it, it was announced that France wasn't getting its own tech tree. This was
00:19announced in the French plane tech tree, or proposed tech tree on the forums, but I assume
00:25it's going to be the same for the tanks as well. So I sort of thought a bit how I was
00:30going to include the French if they weren't getting their own tech tree, and I came up
00:34with doing an international tech tree. You know, doing an episode on each country, each
00:39individual country. That way France gets shown, all the other countries get shown, everyone's
00:44happy. Now this episode is just to really look at the tiering system I've come up with.
00:50We're not really looking at the tanks themselves in too much detail. I'll also show you in
00:56War Thunder the precedents and examples I've used when coming up with these tiering systems,
01:02or where to put tanks in what tier. Now some of the, you may notice some of it looks a
01:07bit odd, tiering wise. We've got a few post-war tanks in tier 4, the Stridsvagn 74 and the
01:12ARL 44, and we've got the Pattenhard 178, which looks ridiculously over-tiered. Now
01:19the reason, well there's a few reasons I've done this. With the Pattenhard and some of
01:24the other armoured cars, I've put, well, they look a bit over-tiered but they're not. It
01:29doesn't actually matter what tier they are, it matters what battle rating they are. This
01:33could be tier 4 but it'd have the battle rating of a tier 2 armoured car, so that won't matter.
01:38The reason I've put it at a higher tier though, is the inefficient research bonus. Basically,
01:44say you get a tier 2 tank, you go to research tier 5, you get the inefficient research bonus,
01:48which means you only get 30% of your RP. So obviously a massive reduction, and that's
01:54going to slow you down. You may be using the tier 2 armoured car because it gives a bonus
02:02when researching the next thing in line, which may be the Pattenhards if these are in tier
02:062. But because of the inefficient research bonus, you'd be losing most of your points
02:10still. So this way you can still have a low battle rating, but still get your research
02:18as normal. There are actually precedents for the post-war tanks being in tier 4 as well,
02:25which I'll show in a minute, but the reason I've done that is because I was having a lot
02:29of trouble filling tier 3 and 4. As you can see they've only got 11 tanks at the moment
02:35as it is. You need 6 at minimum to get to the next rank, so this way, not including
02:42premiums, you've got 10 tanks or other vehicles, so you can get your 6 vehicles and you've
02:47got a bit of leeway on which ones you research. There used to be a bit of a problem, especially
02:52on the American tech tree with planes, where you had to research everything, including
02:55bombers, which put a lot of people off when trying to get to tier 5. You can also notice
03:01I've colour-coded some of the vehicles, which is nice and hopefully lets you see where they
03:07are a bit easier. For example, yellow, Spain, dark blue or blue, France, that sort of thing.
03:15Now before we move on, I'm going to quickly go to War Thunder itself, and I'll show you
03:19the inspirations I got for doing the tiering system this way. So here we are on War Thunder,
03:25or more specifically the American tech tree on War Thunder, and we've got the M41A1 Walker
03:31Bulldog. Now this is tier 4, which is the same as the M4A376, you know, WWII tanks.
03:38It's before the M26 Pershing, a WWII tank. But you go to information, you see delivery
03:44didn't even start until 1953. So we've got a post-war tank before some of the WWII tanks,
03:52it's before the M26 Pershing. And you know, battle rating is before the M26 Pershing.
03:58So we can see there is a precedent for post-war tanks being put in the WWII tiers.
04:05If we now pop over to the German aircraft tech tree, you can see the Focke-Wulf 190D9,
04:12battle rating 4.7. But if we go up here, the 190A4 is 4.3. So we can also see there's
04:20a precedent for putting planes higher up in the tier, but adjusting their battle rating
04:24so they meet tier 2 aircraft. So, you know, my tech tree has got some precedent, it's
04:31not like I've just made it up. You know, Gaijin have done this sort of thing before.
04:36I think you can also see this on the Japanese tech tree. A6M3, 4.3, next one's 5, and then
04:43the one after that is 4.7. So, again there, M1K2J, 5.7, J2M3, 5. So you know, this has
04:53been done quite a few times. You can also see it again on the German tech tree, if I
04:59can find it. The HS129B2, battle rating 4, the B3, 3.3. So, you know, just to give you
05:10a few more examples. So, as that clip shows, there is some sort of precedent for doing
05:15the tiering system how I've done it, which hopefully will allay some fears. Now you may
05:20notice some of these vehicles could go in other tech trees. The LTVZ38, I believe is
05:26actually a Panzer 38, which is already in-game. The ADGZ is an Austrian armoured car, which
05:32was used by the Germans. The ACG1 is a French tank, but with a Belgian turret, modified
05:37by the Belgians themselves. And the Type 38 Beta is actually a Hetzer, but it's built
05:44by Switzerland post-war. Now I've included these because they may have had modifications
05:49for some of them. You know, it helps beef up the tree a little bit. You know, it's nice
05:54to have some slightly different vehicles for the international tech tree. I'm assuming
05:58the Type 38 Beta would have had some modifications being post-war. I assume the Germans would
06:02have modified vehicles they took over, so hopefully they'd be different enough. You
06:07can also see that I've included Commonwealth vehicles. I've previously included them in
06:11the British tank tech tree, but they could fit here as well. So I've included them just
06:16in case. I've also added a number of neutral tanks to the tech tree, and there's a few
06:20reasons for this. One of the reasons is, you know, to boost the numbers of tanks, obviously,
06:26but also because without the neutral tanks, it would be hard to reach the minimum of six
06:31tanks per tier. So you need the neutral tanks to do that. Another reason, some of these
06:37countries did produce a lot of tanks. Sweden produced hundreds, possibly even a thousand
06:42tanks during the war. So it'd be ludicrous to leave them out when they produced so many
06:47tanks. You can also use the neutral nations for alternate history events. For example,
06:51Germany invading Czechoslovakia because the Sudeten Crisis turned out differently, or
06:56invading Sweden and Switzerland because the war turned out differently, or Germany actually
07:00won the war. So you could have those nations against Germany, possibly with allied help.
07:04You could also help simulate some of the other wars, such as in South America. The Vickers
07:106-ton was used in South America, if I'm correct, as well as the Panzer 38. I'll probably talk
07:15about the events in more detail when I get to the individual episodes. Another example
07:20could be Spain teaming up with Germany to attack Gibraltar or something like that. But
07:23like I said, there's a lot of alternate history events that could be used, and I think it
07:28would help spice up the game a little bit. You know, Japan versus Australia, invading
07:34Australia, you know, it just helps to improve the game. Now, one of the other things you
07:39may have noticed is the medium-slash-heavy tank line. Now, the reason I've not given
07:43heavy tanks their own line-up is because there's only six of them, and a lot of them
07:49are bolded and underlined. Some are post-war and may not make the era cut-off line or deadline,
07:56which I'll talk about in a minute. Some were prototypes, and some were only used in small
08:01numbers. So I decided to put them in the medium tech tree or line-up. And again, battle ratings
08:10can be adjusted if needed. You know, I didn't want to leave them out completely, so this
08:15is a fair compromise for keeping them in the game without, you know, getting rid of them
08:19or doing a line-up with only a few tanks. Now, talking about the era cut-off, it's meant
08:25to be 1953, at least for tanks, for planes. But with tanks, they seem to have given it
08:31a bit more leeway. For example, we're getting the Leopard 1 and the M60, which I'm pretty
08:37sure are 1960s tanks. I'm trying to stick to the cut-off of about 1953. I have included
08:44some past that cut-off in some cases, but they are bolded and underlined. So, you know,
08:52I will try to keep to 1953 where possible. Now, one last thing I'd like to mention is
08:57that this isn't actually the finished tech tree. As you can see, I've still got to give
09:00colour code for some of them. Yeah, while we're on the subject, there's a little colour
09:05code thing to help you find the different nations' tanks. But I do tend to tweak these
09:10as I sort of go along. You know, as I get to each nation, I tend to do a bit more research
09:15into it just to make sure it's completely right, and, you know, sometimes I remove or
09:19add tanks as I'm doing that, or, you know, change the tiers and battle ratings. So this
09:24is subject to change. It will stay roughly this, you know, setup, but, you know, you
09:30may see a tank move a tier or two, or one or two being added and taken away, that sort
09:36of thing. But, yeah, anyway, hopefully that's just given you a quick, you know, introduction
09:40to the international tech tree. I'm going to be doing one episode for each nation, so
09:45we'll start off with Argentina, go to Australia, Austria, they'll all get an episode each in
09:51alphabetical order if I can, you know, see how it goes. But, yeah, I think this is the
09:57fairest way to give all nations their own episode, give them all a little look in, and,
10:02you know, hopefully it'll be a good little series. It's been a pain to research, I must
10:06be honest, because I haven't got many books on them, different nations. But, yeah, hopefully
10:11you've enjoyed this episode, and I hope you'll watch the series when I'll get started on
10:16it properly. Thanks for watching, I'll see you next time.
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