00:00Dr. Norris, do you want to join?
00:30It's a good system to implement this to avoid abuse.
00:35So our focus for the next 6 months, and PKSO has been working on this for a year,
00:43is for us to test this system first.
00:45If we test it for 12 months, it won't last.
00:50It means that it enters the system, then it receives incentives,
00:57and after the incentives, it is reimbursed.
01:00So what we want to do is that based on the first 1,000 companies that go through this process,
01:11then we have data and we will be able to determine what is the most optimum tempo
01:19for when we implement it in full.
01:22Is it 24 months? Is it 15 months? Is it 20 months?
01:26We don't want to offer too much because then I think the cost to government is higher.
01:34So I think that's why we are going through this process.
01:37But I made it clear at the town hall that we are aware that we need to cross a certain number of months
01:47before employers will stick to the higher salary bands.
01:53And if we scale this, how much will be allocated in the next phases.
02:05Let us go through Project Rintis.
02:08Because we don't want to rush this and involve millions of people.
02:15I mean, at full scale.
02:17It means that it involves millions of workers, employers.
02:21So when we planned last year, the most important thing is let us get the pilot project off the ground first
02:33because we need to go through that learning curve.
02:36Once we get the learning curve, the system is already there,
02:39we already know the behaviour of the employers, the behaviour of the workers.
02:45It means that the time needed to scale to a much wider group will take much lesser time
02:54compared to, for example, we don't do the pilot test, we want to do it at full scale.
02:59So I think the decision is not long.
03:03But we have to go through this process and then we have to look at the numbers and the experience
03:09that will allow us to decide on the scaling up.
03:14Our target is to get 1,000 employers out of the 5 industries that have been identified.
03:26We have also launched a progressive salary guidance book.
03:35That's why the employers sometimes frown when they look at us.
03:39Because the gap is big.
03:41Some pay RM2,600 now, but when they look at the guidance book, they have to pay RM3,300, RM3,200 and so on.
03:52That's why we want to see how many companies that want to come on board.
03:58The registration number is 1,108.
04:04Those who have registered in the system.
04:08When they register, they create an account.
04:10Then to be part of the progressive salary guidance book, they have to submit their list of employees.
04:19Because the next day, they will check one by one.
04:22Is he a worthy employer? Is he a good employee?
04:25Did he raise his salary last time?
04:27Of the 1,108 that have applied, 446 have submitted their application.
04:38So we have about 2-3 months left.
04:41God willing, we will continue the process of management and promotion to the employers.
04:52So that we can reach the target of 1,000 employers in this RINTES project.
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