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"Hukumat Reforms kar Sakti thi laikn inko Apna Aik Paisa Nahi Chorna" Miftah Ismail Big Revelations
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"Hukumat Reforms kar Sakti thi laikn inko Apna Aik Paisa Nahi Chorna" Miftah Ismail Big Revelations
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00:00
On one hand there is an issue of IPPs, on the other hand there is an issue of over-billing.
00:05
The Jamaat-e-Islami is sitting in Islamabad, in Karachi today.
00:08
You people have also protested.
00:11
Mr. Mufti, the common man wants to know,
00:13
with these protests, with these questions, with this pressure that is being put on the government,
00:19
can there be any change? Can there be any change? Can there be any relief?
00:25
Look, what we are saying is absolutely reasonable and it should be done by the government.
00:31
And I think if the government understands it, it will do it.
00:35
We are not doing anything like the Jamaat-e-Islami is saying,
00:38
to terminate the IPPs and stop giving them money.
00:41
If you stop giving money to IPPs, they will stop giving you electricity.
00:45
Pakistan's sovereignty will be defaulted.
00:47
We are not saying this.
00:48
We are saying that for the next four months,
00:51
the excess taxes that you are taking,
00:53
18% sales tax, 7.5% advance income tax,
00:57
apart from this, you are taking one more tax,
01:00
you are taking other taxes,
01:02
if you stop taking those taxes,
01:04
then the bill will have a 24-25% reduction.
01:07
And you will not have a loss of more than 10 billion rupees per month.
01:13
If you do this for four months, you will have a loss of 40 billion rupees.
01:17
What is the big deal?
01:18
If the government can't do this,
01:20
if the government can't bear the pain of the people,
01:22
then that's just wrong.
01:24
And no IMF will object to this.
01:26
You are reducing your taxes on one side,
01:28
and on the other side, you are reducing your expenses.
01:29
There is no problem.
01:30
But there is a government, Mr. Amitabh,
01:32
which was already in a very bad situation.
01:35
The economy was a big challenge.
01:37
Political instability was a big challenge.
01:39
Why is it taking such steps?
01:41
Does it make sense to you,
01:43
that a government which is already under pressure,
01:46
which is already asking questions on Form 45-47,
01:48
of a big country,
01:50
is taking such steps,
01:52
because of which inflation has increased,
01:54
when according to you, there are solutions?
01:56
See, the government has increased its expenses by 24%,
02:00
current expenditures,
02:02
after debt service payment.
02:05
So, it doesn't increase it by 24%,
02:07
if it had increased it by 22%,
02:08
or increased it by 20%,
02:09
then it would have got a room there.
02:11
Last year, you spent Rs. 750 billion on Ph.D.P.
02:17
First, you said that you will spend Rs. 1,400 billion.
02:20
Then you said that you will spend Rs. 1,100 billion.
02:22
What is that thing,
02:24
in which you have to spend Rs. 1,100 billion?
02:27
If the economy is in such a difficult situation,
02:30
people are so worried,
02:31
then you should stop at Rs. 700 billion.
02:33
You save Rs. 450 billion.
02:36
You invest this Rs. 450 billion towards electricity.
02:39
It can be less in public taxes.
02:41
If you invest Rs. 450 billion in electricity,
02:44
then you can pay this towards capacity cost.
02:47
But the government, I think, doesn't have two things.
02:50
One, they don't realise how difficult it is for the middle class.
02:53
But the second thing is that
02:55
they have not understood the gravity of the situation.
02:58
They are working in the same way,
03:00
that leave this issue for next year.
03:02
They haven't done any reform.
03:03
They have so much support,
03:05
from the same page,
03:06
support from the SIFC.
03:08
They could have done something,
03:09
but they haven't done anything.
03:11
They don't want to leave any money.
03:12
They don't want to reduce MNS funds.
03:13
They don't want to reduce MPS funds.
03:15
They don't want to reduce the money they have to give to the provinces.
03:19
They want to do show projects.
03:21
They want to increase the current expenditures.
03:23
The only person who is suffering
03:26
is the middle class, salaried individual.
03:28
From your show projects,
03:29
I remembered the glass train,
03:31
which you referred to,
03:32
about UK electricity,
03:33
when you were protesting.
03:36
But if you look at the political scenario,
03:39
according to Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
03:42
in December, he will come back to power,
03:45
and Imran Khan will become the Prime Minister.
03:49
Due to the mistakes of the government,
03:52
or due to lack of foresight,
03:54
do you think that this is possible?
03:57
Are there any possibilities?
03:59
But December is very far away.
04:01
It's true.
04:02
And for the past 2-3 days,
04:05
Khan has been telling the Army Chief,
04:08
he made his sister tell him,
04:10
which is obviously a very authentic thing,
04:12
that the army should be neutral.
04:15
First, you know that the neutrals
04:18
have been likened to animals.
04:21
His social media is saying
04:24
that he won't even leave his grave.
04:27
And so on and so forth.
04:28
There are many strange things.
04:30
There is an entire campaign against the army.
04:32
Not just the chief,
04:33
but against the entire army.
04:35
Khan's campaign is on social media.
04:37
Obviously, everyone knows that
04:39
if Khan gets a hint,
04:40
that thing will be over.
04:42
So now Khan has taken a positive step.
04:45
I would say this.
04:46
He is coming towards normalization.
04:48
He is coming towards normalization of politics.
04:51
That his opponent is not a country's enemy,
04:54
nor is he your enemy.
04:55
He is an opponent.
04:56
Now, if he talks like this,
04:58
then he should talk.
04:59
But I don't think that
05:00
if he is committing,
05:04
and what he admitted,
05:07
for example,
05:08
that on 9th May,
05:09
we called for peaceful protest,
05:11
then we should move away from it,
05:12
that this was a false crack operation.
05:14
First, we should move away from it.
05:16
So, these things are better.
05:19
I think it is better
05:20
that if there is some hesitation
05:22
in Khan's stance,
05:24
then the government should also show hesitation,
05:26
and the forces should also show hesitation.
05:28
I don't think he is asking for hesitation from the government,
05:30
Mr. Ismail.
05:31
The government should show it as much as it wants.
05:33
But even if the government shows hesitation,
05:35
will Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
05:37
still be ready to talk to the government?
05:39
Because,
05:40
one step,
05:41
we have moved away from here,
05:42
so on the other hand,
05:43
we don't want to talk to PMLN,
05:44
People's Party,
05:45
or MQM.
05:46
We are moving away from there.
05:47
What do you see?
05:48
Look,
05:49
the truth is that
05:51
it is true that
05:53
this government does not have the mandate
05:55
that Muslim League had in 2013.
05:57
There is no debate on this.
05:59
But,
06:00
the thing is that
06:01
the government and the army
06:02
are on the same page.
06:03
So, if you talk to the government,
06:04
they will say,
06:05
what do you expect,
06:06
that the Chief of Army Staff
06:07
will come to Adiyala
06:08
and talk to you?
06:09
You should not say such things.
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