00:00I think you have to recognise that we are in a world where voters move around a lot more than the old class-based politics that we used to have.
00:10I remember knocking on doors in the 1980s and you could virtually predict how someone was going to vote by how their front door looked and how neatly looked after their garden was.
00:22We are the underdogs, no question about it, but I also do think there are a lot of voters who are still saying to me on the doorstep they haven't fully made up their mind what they're going to do.
00:32There are lots of different considerations, so I think it's hard to read at this stage, even just two weeks away.
00:41So again, candidly, to ask you the same question I asked you about your constituency, can the Conservatives still win this election, in your view?
00:47It's going to be very tough. I don't think any of us would pretend that is the most likely outcome.
00:56We can certainly do a lot better than the polls are suggesting and we are working very hard to do so.
01:02But it was the most dramatic week in my life in terms of decisions I had to take when I got that rather unexpected call from Liz Truss asking me to be Chancellor,
01:13which I thought was a hoax and refused to take the call and could not imagine any situation ever where Liz Truss would actually ask me to be Chancellor.
01:26So that was a bit surreal and then in that first week literally unpicking the entire mini-budget.
01:34But I don't think it's fair to say that there was a sustained economic scarring from that.
01:41I think if you look at us now with lower inflation than most major economies, higher growth than most major economies, we are actually doing very well.
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