00:00 Let's move ahead.
00:02 Some of your old colleagues in the Jamaat,
00:04 their status is not clear regarding their participation.
00:08 Fawad Chaudhary was also sitting with Asad Qaiser in Lahore.
00:14 Someone asked him when are you coming back to PTI.
00:18 Fawad Chaudhary said that he had never left PTI.
00:21 Please listen to his statement.
00:23 We have been told that you are going back to PTI.
00:30 We have never gone back.
00:33 Do you know that Fawad Chaudhary is a member of Tariq-e-Insaf?
00:37 No, I don't know.
00:38 I have two tweets of him.
00:41 I will send them to you.
00:42 He left Tariq-e-Insaf.
00:44 His wife joined IPP.
00:46 She had joined for a while.
00:49 She had applied for a ticket.
00:51 I have read her tweets.
00:53 She had supported the general.
00:57 We have everything.
00:58 He is not a member at this moment when we talk.
01:00 This is the problem.
01:02 There are a few more people.
01:03 This is the media hype that they are creating.
01:06 Khan sir has decided about this.
01:08 When he will come out and when he will be free,
01:11 then we will see who will be the next.
01:13 Why did you hold?
01:14 Earlier you said that you will meet some people.
01:16 You said that you will announce them.
01:18 Why did you hold?
01:20 Is there a lot of pressure from the party?
01:22 Is there opposition?
01:24 They had no decision about meeting someone.
01:26 This was a media hype.
01:28 And the one who created this media hype is him.
01:30 He was creating a conducive environment.
01:32 Khan sir did not say that he will meet or not.
01:34 Then we had a discussion two or three weeks ago.
01:37 It was in the jail.
01:39 He said that nothing will happen.
01:41 We will not discuss this until I am free.
01:43 Then we will see.
01:44 Case to case we will see.
01:45 Who can be given back and who cannot.
01:48 This was their contention before also.
01:50 But now they have decided about the time frame.
01:52 That nothing should happen until I am out.
01:54 What about Mr. Marwat?
01:56 Whenever you come to my show,
01:58 there was an outrageous statement before that.
02:00 We used to ask questions on that.
02:02 I think that outrageous statements will stop for some time.
02:05 But what was his status?
02:07 He is in Tehreek-e-Insaf.
02:08 He has been removed from some committees.
02:09 His brother has been denotified.
02:11 His brother was denotified from the KP cabinet.
02:13 He was given direct instructions by Khan sir,
02:15 which he gave last Thursday when we met him.
02:17 He has been removed from the political committee and the SCORE committee.
02:20 He was issued a show cause notice yesterday.
02:23 In that we asked him.
02:25 What did he ask?
02:26 His statements in which there was a disunity in the party.
02:29 And he built a negative narrative about the leadership of the party.
02:35 And what he told us,
02:37 he has done two things.
02:38 One, he gave statements and created a disunity in the party.
02:42 And second, he did not follow my instructions.
02:44 I told him repeatedly not to do this.
02:46 He used to promise me but he did not do it.
02:48 He gave orders on these basis which we implemented.
02:51 Now, on his answer,
02:53 the matter which Khan sir has said,
02:55 the political committee will decide about it.
02:58 What else you have to decide.
02:59 You decide and I will go by that.
03:01 So, he will come to the political committee.
03:03 Once we have, we get his answer,
03:05 which is the show cause notice.
03:06 He will take it to the political committee.
03:08 And there, like last time,
03:09 the decision will be made as to what will be his status in the party.
03:12 Till now, as we talk,
03:13 he is a member of the party.
03:15 He is a member of the National Assembly also.
03:17 One more question about R. F. Alvi sir.
03:19 He is now moving towards becoming the Chairman of the PTA.
03:25 Is this also a suggestion under consideration that
03:27 Mr. Gauhar, who is a lawyer,
03:29 he has worked as a seat warmer.
03:32 But now, political leadership should come forward
03:35 and R. F. Alvi sir will lead.
03:37 Frankly, there is nothing like this which is not under discussion at this time.
03:40 Absolutely clearly.
03:42 But I don't know what will happen in the future.
03:45 It depends on many factors.
03:47 We feel that Mr. Khan is very close to being released from prison.
03:51 How? This is why I wonder.
03:52 Because you used to say on Chhoti Eid that he should come out before Chhoti Eid.
03:55 I didn't say that.
03:56 Your legal team used to say that.
03:57 Your legal team, in which Salman Shafter is on record.
04:00 There are other people also.
04:02 Now, there is a thought that he should come out near Bari Eid.
04:06 So, is this to tell his voters?
04:08 If the cases of Mr. Khan's bail were heard at the same speed
04:12 at which he was to be prosecuted,
04:15 those cases were heard till 12 at night.
04:17 Three punishments were given to him in five days.
04:20 So, Mr. Khan would have come out long ago.
04:22 There is a conscious delaying tactics which is being used by the establishment.
04:30 And the courts are not listening to the cases.
04:33 They meet for 15-20 minutes and then listen to the cases.
04:35 And then they postpone the hearing for 10 days for some other date.
04:38 So, we were not envisaging this.
04:40 That they would delay the hearing in such a hasty manner.
04:44 So, I have never given a date.
04:47 You have given a date but the legal team has given it.
04:49 I feel that his time is very near.
04:52 He will come out today.
04:53 If not a month, then in two months.
04:54 You are saying that it is two months.
04:55 He will come out.
04:56 Is it that close?
04:57 Very close.
04:58 He will come out soon.
04:59 And how will this happen?
05:00 Will this happen after the Guft-e-Shamid?
05:01 Or will he fight his cases and bail himself out?
05:04 He will fight the cases.
05:05 Will there be a discussion?
05:07 Will there be a breakthrough?
05:08 Will there be an ice thaw?
05:09 Will all this happen after that?
05:11 Maria, there is nothing in those cases.
05:13 They are concocted cases.
05:15 They have no reality.
05:16 They have nothing.
05:17 These are just cases of force.
05:19 They have been kept in jail for force.
05:21 That man, you know, the first thing, we were coming out that day.
05:25 So, Shibli Faraz and I had to give a press briefing.
05:28 People were waiting there.
05:30 So, we had virtually tears in our eyes.
05:33 So, he came out of his mouth and he resonated with me.
05:36 He said, when I go inside and meet Mr. Khan,
05:39 he keeps one thing tied to me.
05:42 Why is this man in the prison?
05:45 What is this man doing in the jail?
05:49 Why is he sitting there?
05:50 Why has he been kept in jail?
05:51 What is his crime?
05:53 What is his crime?
05:54 Thank you very much.
05:55 Mr. Raufazan was with us.
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