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Is it possible to negotiate with Tehreek-e-Insaf? Senator Afnan Ullah's Statement
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Is it possible to negotiate with Tehreek-e-Insaf? Senator Afnan Ullah's Statement
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Now, the problem is, in a situation where your Rana Sanaullah and leaders are saying that
00:05
nothing is impossible, nothing is impossible, if Imran Khan is ready to talk, he can come
00:12
out, the matter can move forward.
00:14
He is not a small person, he is the president of Punjab, he is a big personality.
00:18
Your people have also started removing names from ECL, you have not been removed yet, Mr.
00:23
Atif.
00:24
Please remove him too, Mr. Afnan.
00:27
On one request, the people of Mariam Sahiba are removed from ECL.
00:29
You are also a senator.
00:30
So, please remove his brother.
00:31
He is saying that I will get him removed.
00:33
I mean, they put him in and then remove him.
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I have not made you remove your name.
00:37
So, you are also removing names from ECL.
00:39
In such a situation, there is also news from Mr. Ansari Basi that three important personalities
00:43
are active to end the conflict between the establishment and Mr. Khan, in the larger
00:47
interest of Pakistan.
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In such a situation, when this work will be done, if they have this complaint and statements,
00:53
do you think they will talk?
00:54
Do you think they will have dialogue with you?
01:23
Do you think they will talk?
01:24
Do you think they will have dialogue with you?
01:54
I am a politician.
01:56
I am a politician.
01:57
I have not come to the elections.
01:59
I have come to the elections because of the election that took place yesterday or the
02:02
people who are going to be elected in Punjab.
02:04
Our leader is still in jail.
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The rest of the women are in jail.
02:10
And, I mean, whatever is happening, our reserve seats are given.
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So, if you say in this situation that we should move forward, then that is…
02:17
So, what do you want?
02:19
What is your common denominator?
02:21
So when Imran Khan leaves, what is the political assessment, is it a mind-numbing affair?
02:31
When Imran Khan leaves, what is the political assessment, is it a mind-numbing affair?
02:36
You don't have any fear?
02:37
You didn't even let our leader go out.
02:39
Your leader came back but it was February 8th.
02:41
No, I am saying that when he was here, he did the same.
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This is not happening for the first time.
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If you want things to not go on like this, it shouldn't be that the PM is in the house and you are in the courtyard.
02:52
This is not the case, right?
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These matters will be resolved only when we talk to each other.
02:56
You have to talk to each other.
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Before we end this, do you welcome that step?
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It is a good thing.
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You are taking a step in the right direction.
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We are taking a step in the right direction.
03:06
You are taking a step in the right direction.
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You directly say go for the kill, that remove Khan.
03:11
No, no, no, it is not just about Khan.
03:14
All these events are happening one after the other.
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We have a Jalsa in Karachi.
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Let's see what they do with us there.
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In Punjab, our Jalsas are held for the workers.
03:26
First, you should do the ceasefire.
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After that, we will go towards the negotiation.
03:31
Sir, we will have to think about Mani Sahab's ruthlessness.
03:35
If you want CBNs, I will be ruthless.
03:38
What is ruthlessness?
03:39
A right of protest is a basic right of every citizen in this country.
03:44
If you take permission from the DC and ensure that you will not do anything illegal, then it is okay.
03:49
Who is the DC?
03:51
Who is the normal DC?
03:53
Who is the DC?
03:55
He is the representative of your government.
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If he gets an order from above to give permission, will he give it or not?
04:01
We are warned that you will not do the same thing again as you did before.
04:05
So you will not let me leave?
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I think that if we sit down and talk, this problem will also be solved.
04:11
Who do you want to talk to?
04:12
Who do you want to talk to?
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Obviously, we will talk only after we make a team.
04:17
You are concerned about making a team.
04:19
Mr. Khan also made a team.
04:21
Mr. Khan also made a team.
04:23
First of all, we are repeatedly asking you to make a judicial commission on 9th May.
04:29
You should make a judicial commission on the election on 8th February.
04:33
What difference does it make?
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The one who is wrong will get justice.
04:37
His government has been formed. He is running.
04:39
He is running. He has the support of everyone.
04:41
Why are you in a position to give?
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What will you give right now?
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You are falling on a slippery slope.
04:47
If his government is running, it is running on a respirator and ventilator.
04:52
It is running on everything.
04:54
What do you have to give?
04:56
Mr. Khan is six feet away from the mirror.
04:58
What will you do?
05:00
Mr. Khan, we want to talk about politics.
05:05
What do you want to talk about?
05:07
First of all, tell us,
05:09
should we leave all this behind?
05:11
Should we leave what is already there?
05:13
You just sit down.
05:15
We are asking you to make a judicial commission on 9th May.
05:21
On 9th May.
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On 8th February.
05:25
On 25th July 2018.
05:27
And tell us about what was said about the finger of the empire.
05:31
You are talking about something that should not be done.
05:33
Then don't do it.
05:35
It is a political rhetoric.
05:37
You are just throwing a bone.
05:39
If you accept your mistake,
05:41
you will move forward.
05:43
Listen to me.
05:45
If you are not ready to accept your mistake.
05:47
You are saying that we have never done anything wrong.
05:49
Our finger of the empire was also right.
05:51
We did everything right with you.
05:53
We did everything right with you.
05:55
I have applied for a recount.
05:57
I have applied for a recount.
05:59
I have applied for a recount.
06:01
Crime, problems, misreading.
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From 2018 to 2021,
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their leaders have also been imprisoned.
06:07
They have to be introspection.
06:09
This is what I am saying.
06:11
I am not saying that I am not accepting my mistake.
06:13
I am not saying that I am not accepting my mistake.
06:15
I am saying that we should make a judicial commission.
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They should determine that if we have made a mistake,
06:19
they should punish us.
06:21
If we have not made a mistake,
06:23
then we are afraid that
06:25
if we do something,
06:27
you will not be able to do anything.
06:29
You will sit at home.
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We will do whatever we can.
06:33
You will not come out to protest.
06:35
You will not use.
06:37
You will not use.
06:39
You are not using the protest movement in Punjab.
06:41
In KPK, all is well.
06:43
You do not have the leaders.
06:45
You do not have the leaders.
06:47
You do not have the leaders.
06:49
You do not have the leaders.
06:51
Like, number one, when I met Mr. Khan on Thursday in jail,
06:56
on Thursday, a Faisalabad Dalsa has been decided.
06:59
First we have to do Faisalabad, then we have to do Karachi,
07:02
and after that we have to do Gujarat.
07:04
People are ready to leave, and they do leave.
07:08
Obviously, if the leadership leaves, it will have more impact.
07:10
And will it have the impact that you want?
07:11
It will have more impact, but the problem is that Mariam Nawaz sahiba...
07:15
Maulana sahib has also put a cross on you.
07:19
Maulana sahib has also said that this is a puppets' regime,
07:22
this government cannot run.
07:23
Your own people are saying that the parliament will complete the term,
07:26
but the government will not.
07:27
That in-house change can also happen.
07:28
I mean, you are very fragile right now.
07:30
Yes.
07:31
Look, we can only say this.
07:33
We are not understanding this.
07:35
They are thinking that we are calling them important.
07:37
We are not calling them important.
07:38
We genuinely believe that all the major political forces
07:42
will have to sit down and solve these problems.
07:44
If they don't, then this will continue.
07:46
I am telling you this.
07:47
And you will remain in the government.
07:48
Do whatever you want to do.
07:49
I am not saying this.
07:50
This is what you are saying.
07:51
I am saying that the hybrid regime that Imran Khan
07:54
sowed, the one-page hybrid regime,
07:56
has become a tree today.
07:58
Do you believe that this is a hybrid regime?
08:00
Of course, it is a hybrid regime.
08:01
Beyond any doubt.
08:04
And you are benefiting from this system.
08:05
We are not benefiting.
08:06
You absolutely are.
08:07
You are not telling half the truth.
08:09
No, no, we are not benefiting.
08:11
We are trying to run the country.
08:14
We have made progress.
08:17
My last question is to Mr. Nawaz Sharif.
08:20
Mr. Nawaz Sharif, how are you going to China?
08:23
Mr. Nawaz Sharif is going to China as a statesman.
08:27
Our Prime Minister has not yet gone to China.
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Please listen to my request.
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Mr. Nawaz Sharif has a lot of credibility on the international stage.
08:35
His name is mentioned.
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That is why he is going.
08:38
If he agrees on certain things,
08:41
God willing, he will go again.
08:43
Is the Prime Minister not credible?
08:45
Mr. Nawaz Sharif has as much credibility as anyone else in Pakistan.
08:49
Not even Shabaz Sharif?
08:50
Not even Shabaz Sharif.
08:52
As much as Mr. Nawaz Sharif has.
08:54
The books that teach about corruption in international schools,
08:59
are they about Mr. Nawaz Sharif or Mr. Zardari?
09:02
They are about Mr. Ali Mawadi.
09:04
I am seriously asking you.
09:06
They are about 190 million pounds.
09:08
How is he going to eat 190 million pounds and not even know?
09:12
They are about the lands of Kulbani Karna,
09:15
which you had taken,
09:17
and the money you used to collect on the transfer posting,
09:19
these books are about that.
09:21
Those are allegations.
09:23
Do you have a problem with Mr. Nawaz Sharif going to China?
09:25
No, no, we don't have any problem.
09:27
The Chinese didn't give him a deal.
09:29
In his time, all the projects were shut down because they had no credibility.
09:32
You had to give a statement to the village head.
09:34
This is the case of Evanfield.
09:38
The case of Evanfield.
09:40
One person comes and says,
09:42
Alhamdulillah, it is our property.
09:44
Someone else says, I don't have a property here,
09:46
I don't have a property there.
09:48
They live in the same house.
09:50
They are still living in the same house.
09:52
They do press conferences about it.
09:54
They say, it is not ours.
09:56
In the current hybrid system,
09:59
you have to change your strategy.
10:02
You don't want to get anything.
10:04
They have started the hybrid system.
10:06
We are not getting anything.
10:08
We are changing it.
10:10
We are doing it.
10:12
From 1982, Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
10:14
from Zia ul Haq,
10:16
I don't know if it was a hybrid or whatever,
10:18
they are changing it.
10:20
The democracy of 2018 is much better than today's democracy.
10:22
Whatever you do, we are suffering.
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