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00:00:00 ♪ I got a hero, my name is a hero ♪
00:00:02 - And a very special good morning, Trinidad and Tobago
00:00:04 and the rest of the world.
00:00:05 I'm Marlon Hopkins, and as always,
00:00:06 welcome to "The Morning Edition."
00:00:08 It's April 3rd, 2024, and thank you very much for joining us.
00:00:11 How have you been enjoying the weather?
00:00:14 I have, I have been enjoying it immensely.
00:00:17 So it was a cool day yesterday, a cool night,
00:00:20 a cool morning, we got some rain, yeah?
00:00:23 So I'm liking the weather.
00:00:26 It would seem that the dust, the Sahara dust,
00:00:28 has dissipated somewhat, so, you know,
00:00:31 there's a bit of relief for persons
00:00:33 who are suffering with the allergies and so on.
00:00:35 This morning, I saw some of you speeding,
00:00:38 and I'm just wondering, where all you're going
00:00:40 five o'clock in the morning, speeding?
00:00:42 All you're working, TV six?
00:00:44 Where all you're working?
00:00:45 You know, I mean, the accident from last week,
00:00:50 concerning the KISS truck driver,
00:00:55 that's still playing on my mind,
00:00:57 and I think, you know, if that,
00:00:59 if you all remember what transpired with that,
00:01:02 then many of you will slow down.
00:01:03 So the roads are wet, the rain, it's raining,
00:01:06 the roads are wet, slow down, yeah?
00:01:09 Well, (laughs)
00:01:12 as you know what the old people say, right?
00:01:14 Who do here will feel.
00:01:15 Let's check out to see what's happening
00:01:16 on the Daily Express today.
00:01:19 On the front page, family claims,
00:01:21 runaround for autopsy of body of KISS driver
00:01:24 killed in accident, funeral pain,
00:01:28 and April showers, rain relief,
00:01:31 a pedestrian walks along Independence Square
00:01:33 in Port of Spain yesterday, sheltering under her umbrella
00:01:36 on a day as forecast of persistent showers.
00:01:41 After many weeks of hot, dry weather,
00:01:43 the April showers were a welcome relief.
00:01:46 And deaths of prisoners, sought funding,
00:01:49 SSA, Griffith under the gun.
00:01:53 Let's talk a little bit about the KISS truck driver.
00:01:57 Runaround to get autopsy after hit and run,
00:01:59 family pleads for driver's body.
00:02:01 The family of Neil Balai is pleading with the authorities
00:02:05 to release his body and give them peace of mind
00:02:08 as his funeral is being delayed pending an autopsy.
00:02:13 All right, let's check out to see
00:02:14 what's happening in sport now.
00:02:16 Nikki P goes on the offensive in full flow.
00:02:20 Lucknow super giants, Nicholas Puran in action
00:02:24 against the Royal Challengers Bangalore
00:02:26 during yesterday's Indian Premier League fixture.
00:02:29 In Bengaluru, India, Puran belted and unbeaten 40
00:02:34 from 21 balls to help LSG to a 28 run over RCB.
00:02:39 And warmer pub, Australia, England,
00:02:42 West Indies among teams based in Trinidad
00:02:45 ahead of T20 World Cup.
00:02:48 The biggest ICC T20 World Cup comes to the Caribbean
00:02:52 in June and despite only hosting five of the 55 matches
00:02:56 in the showpiece event, Trinidad and Tobago
00:02:58 will still play a significant role.
00:03:01 All right, some of the stories of the daily express
00:03:03 for you today.
00:03:04 All right, it's time to remind you of our Trinbago,
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00:03:14 We have this for you.
00:03:15 Yeah, it's called April blessings.
00:03:20 Yeah, I've seen this sort of flower before.
00:03:25 Yeah, anybody in studio knows what sort of flower is that?
00:03:28 Yeah, silence.
00:03:31 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:03:34 I will not tell our viewers what you said.
00:03:36 All right, but it looks familiar.
00:03:38 It looks familiar.
00:03:39 All right, but a beautiful picture there.
00:03:41 And remember to the persons who continue to send
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00:04:00 and some hot tea, right?
00:04:01 And something hot to eat, right?
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00:08:53 - Good morning everyone and welcome back.
00:08:55 And thank you very much for joining us
00:08:56 on this cool and beautiful morning
00:08:58 in Trinidad and Tobago.
00:08:59 All right, so let's get right into the program for today.
00:09:02 So a debate today over the state of the energy sector
00:09:05 and the economy.
00:09:06 This follows recent statements by the Prime Minister
00:09:09 that because of his direct involvement,
00:09:11 there was a successful outcome to certain weighty matters
00:09:14 that saved the day and the future of Trinidad and Tobago.
00:09:17 Well, on the line this morning,
00:09:19 we have a former minister in the Ministry of Finance,
00:09:21 Mr. Mariano Brown.
00:09:22 Mr. Brown, good morning.
00:09:23 - Good morning, good morning.
00:09:26 - Yes, always good to speak with you, Mr. Brown.
00:09:28 Well, Mr. Brown, if you'd allow me to put some context
00:09:30 to what we are going to discuss and more so for our viewers.
00:09:34 The Prime Minister said he as Prime Minister
00:09:37 of Trinidad and Tobago,
00:09:38 there were a very few weighty matters
00:09:41 that attracted and required his direct involvement
00:09:44 over a protracted period of time
00:09:46 in order to have an urgent successful outcome
00:09:49 to save the day and the future of Trinidad and Tobago.
00:09:52 And of course, former Energy Minister,
00:09:55 Kevin Ramnarine has responded.
00:09:58 And he says that the Prime Minister's view
00:10:01 on resuscitation and revival of the energy sector
00:10:04 are at variance with all metrics,
00:10:07 public data and observable facts.
00:10:11 He says, "I don't know how natural gas production
00:10:14 "falling by 32% from 2015 to 2023
00:10:18 "could be described as resuscitation."
00:10:21 All right, so I'm just putting that on the table
00:10:23 this morning as you hear all of that, Mr. Brown,
00:10:26 what are your views this morning?
00:10:28 - Well, I mean, Mr. Ramnarine has a point.
00:10:33 If production has declined and it's down substantially,
00:10:38 we're operating at what, 40 to 45%
00:10:42 of our highest production point.
00:10:46 In terms of natural gas, we're operating at below capacity,
00:10:50 substantial number between 40 to 50%
00:10:53 of the plants are closed.
00:10:55 So he has a point in asking the question,
00:10:57 what have we resuscitated?
00:10:59 I don't think there's any,
00:11:00 I don't think you can get away from that.
00:11:02 I think the Prime Minister is standing
00:11:04 or attempting to stand on his position
00:11:06 with regard to petrochain and heritage.
00:11:09 And using that, unfortunately,
00:11:13 as a metaphor for the entire energy sector,
00:11:16 that will not work, unfortunately it won't.
00:11:18 The point is he may have saved heritage
00:11:22 and he may have saved the exploration
00:11:24 and production part of heritage from difficulty
00:11:27 by segregating the assets of the refinery,
00:11:32 which was losing money at the time.
00:11:34 But that will not say that he saved the energy sector.
00:11:37 It will say that he saved heritage.
00:11:40 Now we have to ask the question, saved it how?
00:11:43 Because heritage is a pale shadow of what it used to be.
00:11:46 We would probably have lost a substantial share
00:11:49 of the carry-on market.
00:11:51 So, and it's production of oil is not increased
00:11:57 by any significant amount.
00:11:58 In fact, the probability is that it has decreased.
00:12:01 But I think he's trying to hang his hat
00:12:04 on the fact that petrochain has survived.
00:12:07 And survived in one form only.
00:12:10 The question is, will we ever,
00:12:11 will refining ever come back to Trinidad and Tobago?
00:12:13 And we have to put it in the context
00:12:15 that Trinidad and Tobago once had something
00:12:16 about four or five refineries.
00:12:18 Right, it had a Shell refinery, it had a BP refinery.
00:12:21 The Shell refinery was at point 40,
00:12:24 where Atlantic LNG now is.
00:12:26 That's one of the reasons why they selected the site.
00:12:28 It already had a deepwater harbor.
00:12:30 It already had infrastructure.
00:12:32 Right, so there's no refinery there.
00:12:34 There's no BP refinery.
00:12:36 BP refinery was built in Manila, Bray, that's gone.
00:12:39 And I think there would have been a refinery in Santa Flora
00:12:42 and we don't have that anymore either.
00:12:44 Right, so what you were left with was the old Texaco asset
00:12:47 and the attempts to refurbish that asset,
00:12:50 which put, and the country borrowed a lot of money.
00:12:53 Petrochain borrowed a lot of money.
00:12:55 And at the time, given the financial circumstances,
00:12:58 I think when faced with the reality of absorbing that debt
00:13:02 on the part of the national debt,
00:13:04 as part of the national debt,
00:13:05 I think the prime minister basically,
00:13:07 and the minister of finance ran,
00:13:09 and segregated the asset,
00:13:13 and basically allowed the generation of oil,
00:13:17 the production of crude and the exploitation of crude,
00:13:20 to literally pay for that debt and kill the refinery.
00:13:24 So I think that what we've probably lost,
00:13:26 we've lost the refinery, I think.
00:13:27 I think after six years, bringing that refinery back,
00:13:31 given the current state of play,
00:13:33 it's going to be very difficult.
00:13:35 Interest or no interest,
00:13:36 I mean, literally going to have to give a refinery
00:13:37 and a couple of billion dollars
00:13:39 in terms of investment in the process.
00:13:41 And there's also the issue of the legacy issues.
00:13:44 Petrochain sits on the refinery
00:13:49 that's been there for quite some time.
00:13:51 There's at least one dead river
00:13:52 and a number of environmental issues.
00:13:54 Who's going to own it?
00:13:56 I know a new owner is going to come in,
00:13:59 is going to say that I'm going to pay for those legacy issues.
00:14:01 That's not going to happen.
00:14:03 So that's going to reduce the debt,
00:14:04 that's going to redound,
00:14:06 it's going to let you saddle the country
00:14:08 in terms of resolving those issues.
00:14:10 So I think he may have saved heritage,
00:14:12 but I don't think he has saved the energy sector
00:14:14 by a long shot.
00:14:15 The energy sector is in grave difficulty as we speak.
00:14:18 - Yeah.
00:14:20 Let me just touch on a further statement
00:14:24 of the prime minister.
00:14:25 So he says, "These were resuscitating, revitalizing,
00:14:29 "and saving the energy sector,
00:14:31 "including the restructuring of Petrochain,
00:14:33 "managing the society and economy
00:14:35 "during the COVID-19 pandemic,
00:14:37 "responding to an escalating crisis of violent crime
00:14:40 "and widespread criminality,
00:14:42 "local government reform,
00:14:43 "modernization of the tax collection system,
00:14:46 "reduction of waste in the budgeting process,
00:14:48 "and elimination of corruption."
00:14:50 He says, "Prime Minister,
00:14:52 "we have had significant successes in these priority areas,
00:14:55 "but there is a lot more that has to be done.
00:14:58 "Suffice it to say that we have identified
00:15:01 "the main challenges, have engaged them,
00:15:03 "and are on the right track."
00:15:05 He says, "This is what is required,
00:15:07 "and not the revisionist lies
00:15:09 "of those who ignored these problems
00:15:10 "or simply kicked the can down the road
00:15:13 "until it fell to this administration
00:15:17 "to provide the grit and the commitment
00:15:19 "in the interest of a better future
00:15:21 "for all the people of Trinidad and Tobago."
00:15:24 Yeah, that's the entire statement
00:15:25 of the prime minister there.
00:15:26 - Well, I mean, elections is next year.
00:15:29 I don't think one has to start campaigning now.
00:15:31 It's gonna be a long campaign.
00:15:33 Was that, if anything, I heard it was a campaign speech.
00:15:37 But let's look at what the objective reality is.
00:15:39 - Yes.
00:15:40 - The objective reality, I mean,
00:15:42 every new government that comes into office
00:15:44 and blame the previous administration
00:15:46 for maladministration, inefficiency, and everything else.
00:15:49 When the UNC came into office,
00:15:51 they would have done so at a time
00:15:53 when there was a slight downturn
00:15:56 as a result of the 2008 financial crisis.
00:15:59 Prices quickly rebounded as well as natural gas production.
00:16:04 Natural gas production hit its highest point.
00:16:07 And then somewhere around 2013, it declined dramatically.
00:16:11 We had started to see the beginning
00:16:12 of long-term secular issues in our gas supply.
00:16:16 All right, to the extent to which the UNC felt it important
00:16:19 to give a series of fiscal incentives,
00:16:23 which led to a rapid increase in drilling.
00:16:26 In fact, there was a time when there was no drilling
00:16:27 taking place in the world,
00:16:29 but a lot of drilling was taking place in Trinidad and Tobago
00:16:31 and that led to Angeline, Juniper,
00:16:35 and I think something else as well,
00:16:37 which increased the production up from 3.3 million,
00:16:41 billion, can you repeat it, to 3.6 in 2018.
00:16:44 The difficulty is that when the PNM came into office in 2015,
00:16:48 prices had declined substantially.
00:16:51 So even though there was a little uptick
00:16:53 in terms of production,
00:16:55 it was never sufficient to go back to exactly where it was.
00:16:59 And then the PNM and that this current administration
00:17:03 had to ride the issue of an increase in prices
00:17:06 demanded by the energy explorers.
00:17:10 This would be the multinationals.
00:17:12 And they would have had to face a very difficult period
00:17:15 as a result of which some plants closed down,
00:17:18 didn't renew their contracts.
00:17:20 So the argument that is taking place
00:17:22 between Minister Young and Minister Ramnarajan,
00:17:25 Minister Young is the lawyer,
00:17:26 so he's gonna talk about contract and contract negotiation.
00:17:29 Mr. Ramnarajan is an engineer
00:17:31 and he's going to look at the bigger picture
00:17:33 in terms of what is the actual production situation,
00:17:35 what did I leave?
00:17:37 And quite frankly, at this stage of the game,
00:17:39 Mr. Ramnarajan will win that argument comfortably.
00:17:44 So I don't think there's any difficulty
00:17:46 on that particular score.
00:17:48 The reality is that today's date,
00:17:49 we're talking about maintainable production of 2.6 billion,
00:17:52 which is completely different
00:17:54 from the high point of 4.2.
00:17:56 And therefore, as a result of which we have lost
00:17:59 40 to 50% of the plants,
00:18:00 just don't have enough natural gas.
00:18:02 When Shell is starting to look at taking 70%
00:18:07 in a joint venture, potentially,
00:18:09 I say potential 'cause I have no faith in capacity
00:18:12 to bring the Dragon gas onshore.
00:18:17 When Shell, and then when we're talking about,
00:18:22 because of the geopolitical situation,
00:18:23 not because of any technical reason,
00:18:25 the geopolitical situation that I'm speaking of.
00:18:28 So the reality is we're talking about a period
00:18:31 of in which we have very, very low gas.
00:18:34 Now, the Prime Minister may wish to say
00:18:36 that he resolved the issue.
00:18:37 The point is that the multinationals got what they want,
00:18:39 they got increased prices.
00:18:41 And that almost called the death knell
00:18:43 of the petrochemical sector.
00:18:45 What saved Trinidad and Tobago
00:18:47 was an increase in ammonia and methanol prices
00:18:52 and natural gas prices in 2021,
00:18:55 as a result of the European economy,
00:18:57 and 2022 as a result of the Ukraine war.
00:19:01 That increased prices,
00:19:03 and that as a result of which the economy rebounded.
00:19:06 That is completely external.
00:19:08 It didn't have anything to do with increased production.
00:19:11 It didn't have anything to do with increased supply.
00:19:13 It didn't have to do with new wells that we drilled, nothing.
00:19:17 It was just simply prices went up.
00:19:19 And that the administration has been lucky
00:19:22 that the external realities have helped us.
00:19:25 But to say that that has translated
00:19:27 into saving the energy sector,
00:19:30 I mean, I think that claim would be a little ludicrous,
00:19:32 quite frankly.
00:19:33 - Yeah.
00:19:34 But do you agree at all with the Prime Minister
00:19:37 that they have identified the main challenges,
00:19:40 and he believes that his administration
00:19:43 is on the right track,
00:19:44 when we speak about the right track,
00:19:46 in attracting investors to Trinidad and Tobago?
00:19:48 Of course, you would have seen Mr. Brown
00:19:51 over the past few months, maybe years in recent times,
00:19:55 the Prime Minister has been all over the world
00:19:59 trying to attract investors to Trinidad and Tobago,
00:20:03 and has been having discussions
00:20:06 with the multinational corporations
00:20:11 in order to get them here.
00:20:12 - Well, I'm sure that they've had discussions.
00:20:15 I'm sure they've traveled a lot.
00:20:18 When you're traveling,
00:20:19 and you're in the business of selling the country,
00:20:21 you have to have something to sell.
00:20:22 So exactly what are we selling?
00:20:24 Trinidad and Tobago's industrial investment horizon
00:20:30 has always been built around the energy sector.
00:20:33 Nothing else, really.
00:20:36 The other, not sort of, if you want improvements
00:20:39 in terms of what we call local manufacturing,
00:20:41 have largely taken in terms of food and drink,
00:20:43 and regard for export.
00:20:46 So we import to export.
00:20:47 And there has been some improvement in that regard.
00:20:49 Some of those firms have done quite well.
00:20:51 But they've also recognized
00:20:52 that they can't only depend on Trinidad,
00:20:54 so they invest in abroad.
00:20:55 So if we look at the Neil and Massey family, for example,
00:20:58 you will find that they have now started
00:21:00 to make investments across the US,
00:21:02 expanding the investment portfolio.
00:21:04 The same is true of the Bermudez Group.
00:21:08 Almost any and every local manufacturing firm
00:21:12 that you could think of,
00:21:13 and some of Cal is doing the same thing.
00:21:15 And they're looking for investments abroad.
00:21:16 That's because Trinidad, there is a small economy.
00:21:19 So if you want to expand, then by definition,
00:21:21 you have to have a good home base,
00:21:23 but you also have to look for markets externally.
00:21:26 And that has already started to take place.
00:21:27 Now, the key strength has been the energy sector,
00:21:31 and in particular, natural gas.
00:21:33 Now, if your production is declining, what exactly?
00:21:37 I mean, we did very well to bring Mitsubishi plant.
00:21:40 But if you look at the other one,
00:21:42 let's look at Nyquil, right?
00:21:44 The government's made a deal.
00:21:47 They actually gave them priority.
00:21:48 They created a company to give Nyquil gas upstream,
00:21:51 downstream, essentially is a paper creation,
00:21:56 basically to get gas to Nyquil.
00:21:58 And what has happened with that?
00:21:59 That hasn't worked out.
00:22:00 To all intents and purposes,
00:22:01 Nyquil hasn't really settled its debts.
00:22:03 They are doing the bickering.
00:22:05 The plant has, what, blown up twice?
00:22:08 Well, not blown up, but they have had substantial failures.
00:22:11 So the question of whether they've been able to come back
00:22:13 is another thing altogether.
00:22:15 So gas to liquids is kind of touchy right now.
00:22:20 I mean, it doesn't look like that's going to work out.
00:22:23 The gas now needs to be redirected.
00:22:25 And I think the government has come to that conclusion.
00:22:27 They're looking to redirect it
00:22:28 to the rest of the petrochemical sector.
00:22:30 But where are we with regard to petrochemical manufacturers,
00:22:33 petrochemicals, where are we with regard to LNG?
00:22:36 At 60%, right?
00:22:37 Well, I mean, 60% of,
00:22:39 when you're operating at 60% of capacity,
00:22:42 you operate only at 60% of capacity.
00:22:44 If one, you don't have supply,
00:22:47 or two, there's a technical problem.
00:22:49 There's no technical problem.
00:22:50 The problem is no supply of gas.
00:22:53 I know that's a critical issue.
00:22:55 Now, how do you get gas?
00:22:56 Right, the only thing that you could do is to get gas,
00:22:58 is to get the multinationals,
00:23:00 because Trinidad and Tobago has no,
00:23:03 if you want, deep water drilling capacity, right?
00:23:06 Petro-Trin may have, sorry,
00:23:07 Heritage may have a large acreage, right?
00:23:11 But doesn't have the capacity to basically drill or explore.
00:23:15 So you're looking for somebody with deep pockets,
00:23:17 who are they?
00:23:18 They're the multinationals.
00:23:19 And the multinationals are looking for gas.
00:23:21 I don't think you have to go too far
00:23:22 to look for anybody to find that out.
00:23:24 I mean, the mere fact that they're accompanying
00:23:27 the Minister of Venezuela, who tells you something,
00:23:31 they want gas, and we don't have it.
00:23:34 And that hasn't changed.
00:23:35 So you could talk to,
00:23:36 you could go and talk to how many people you want.
00:23:38 If you don't have what to sell,
00:23:41 if you don't have what is required to sell to investors,
00:23:44 then they're not gonna come.
00:23:46 And that's the reality.
00:23:47 We've had one plant, I think,
00:23:49 in the last 10 years that is new, one.
00:23:51 That's it, all right?
00:23:53 And still we have the issue of whether we have enough gas.
00:23:56 We can't get away from that.
00:23:58 - But you know, Mr. Brown.
00:23:58 - So to say that you've,
00:24:00 the Prime Minister may have done well
00:24:03 to sort of keep the production where it is,
00:24:05 but to say that resuscitated and revived,
00:24:07 well, that's a stretch.
00:24:09 - Yeah. - That's political.
00:24:10 But you know, Mr. Brown, over the years,
00:24:14 isn't it that we've been having the same conversation
00:24:19 for a number of years now?
00:24:20 We have said, well, here's what.
00:24:22 We need to be less dependent on the energy sector.
00:24:25 The data will show we are heavily dependent
00:24:27 on the energy sector.
00:24:29 We speak about improvements in agriculture.
00:24:34 We have spoken about diversification.
00:24:36 We have spoken about improvements in the non-energy sector.
00:24:41 So, I mean, to the layman, somebody like me,
00:24:45 it would seem that we've been speaking
00:24:47 about the same things over and over.
00:24:49 We know what the problems are.
00:24:52 We know what the solutions are.
00:24:54 So then what's the problem, Mr. Brown?
00:24:56 - Because it isn't easy to do.
00:24:58 (both laughing)
00:24:59 It's hard.
00:25:00 It's easier to talk about it.
00:25:03 - Yes. - Far easier to talk about it
00:25:04 than to get it done, right?
00:25:06 And the reality is that we're not as at all.
00:25:09 It is a crossroads.
00:25:10 This is a crossroads.
00:25:12 We were at a crossroads when,
00:25:15 if you want the energy major left,
00:25:16 you have to remember BP left, Shell left, Texaco left, right?
00:25:21 And we went into, we had two downturns.
00:25:24 They were significant.
00:25:26 What saved us, it was in 1971, we found additional gas.
00:25:30 And actually we had been sitting on a plan,
00:25:33 Professor Julian and a number of others
00:25:36 have been, how do we monetize gas?
00:25:38 Now, when we did that and we did that,
00:25:40 perhaps we did it too quickly.
00:25:42 We could look back, there are lessons that have to be learned
00:25:44 and mistakes that we made.
00:25:46 We've never owned up to the mistakes.
00:25:48 And there are serious mistakes that were made.
00:25:50 We perhaps extracted the gas at too fast a pace, right?
00:25:54 We crunched all the developments
00:25:56 in a very short period of time
00:25:57 when perhaps we probably needed to push it
00:25:59 and make it a little slower.
00:26:01 We probably need to have a balance.
00:26:03 We went from one train to four trains,
00:26:07 which used up a lot of the gas, huge volumes,
00:26:11 when perhaps we probably needed to do two rather than four.
00:26:15 And rather than have the fourth train,
00:26:17 the train four is as big as two and three together.
00:26:20 So you're talking about a substantial increase in volume.
00:26:25 And probably without spending enough time looking at,
00:26:28 well, how do we make this last longer?
00:26:32 Now that's a mistake, that's a strategic error.
00:26:34 And that strategic error is made
00:26:35 with regard to two and three, right?
00:26:38 Now, when you make a strategic error,
00:26:40 correcting it in retrospect is virtually impossible.
00:26:45 Now the country has to own up to those mistakes.
00:26:48 Now that hasn't happened as yet.
00:26:49 Those are business errors.
00:26:51 Those are the errors of negotiation.
00:26:53 Those are errors of vision and planning, all right?
00:26:57 So, and that turned out to be economy multiplied
00:27:00 between 1999 and 2010 by a factor of three.
00:27:05 We moved from $50 billion in terms of a GDP figure,
00:27:09 $350 billion, a GDP figure of $150 billion in 10 years.
00:27:14 I mean, that's exactly what's taking place in Guyana.
00:27:19 The point is that it moved up very quickly.
00:27:22 And now we're at the stage where, hang on,
00:27:25 what moved us up is now declining.
00:27:27 What horse do we get onto?
00:27:29 Well, that's hard.
00:27:30 We have to have made that decision 15 to 20 years ago.
00:27:35 So what we're trying to do today
00:27:37 is gonna take us 15 to 20 years moving forward.
00:27:41 And that's the difficulty.
00:27:42 And political cycles are short.
00:27:45 They are five-year terms.
00:27:47 So what we're listening to
00:27:48 what the prime minister is attempting to claim
00:27:50 is to claim the political high ground
00:27:52 in advance of an election campaign.
00:27:54 Guess what's gonna be an election in terms of the campaign?
00:27:58 What's the performance of the economy?
00:28:00 What's the situation on crime?
00:28:02 I mean, you don't have to look too far to see.
00:28:05 If you compare ourselves, for example, with Barbados,
00:28:08 I mean, in terms of visitor traffic,
00:28:10 in terms of tourism and so on,
00:28:12 completely different climate, right?
00:28:14 Maybe right now people are afraid, they're scared
00:28:17 in terms of what's taking place,
00:28:17 whether we have control of what's taking place on the street,
00:28:20 whether we put the gangs in a bucket and kept them there.
00:28:23 That hasn't happened.
00:28:25 And those are precisely the hot button topics
00:28:27 that are gonna become political issues and election issues.
00:28:30 And I think the prime minister tried to make a speech
00:28:33 which is basically trying to claim the high ground.
00:28:36 I think he's gonna have very grave difficulty
00:28:38 keeping it over the course of the next two years.
00:28:42 I think the facts are just too powerful to ignore.
00:28:46 - Yeah.
00:28:47 But judging from what you're saying, Mr. Brown,
00:28:50 I get the feeling also that there has to be
00:28:55 a sort of shift, a real transformation
00:28:58 because of the challenges that we are speaking about.
00:29:01 There has to be, we can't keep on doing the same things
00:29:04 the same way over and over and over.
00:29:06 And I suspect there has to be a great shift.
00:29:09 - A monumental shift, which we have not yet has not made.
00:29:14 Why?
00:29:15 Because we've depended in large measure
00:29:17 on the energy sector to save us.
00:29:21 Now, the persistent underlying scarcity of foreign exchange
00:29:25 tells us everything that we wish to know.
00:29:27 Now, you can't have Cambio selling foreign exchange
00:29:30 as 839 and the commercial banks sell it at $6.80.
00:29:34 Right, what you're telling me, you have a split rate system
00:29:37 which is exactly equal to what we did in the 1980s.
00:29:40 It didn't work then and it's not gonna work now.
00:29:43 Right, there are some realities
00:29:44 that the country is gonna have to face.
00:29:46 And that's the political perspective.
00:29:51 These are difficult issues.
00:29:52 I mean, just consider how, I mean,
00:29:53 we've been dealing with property tax,
00:29:55 we've been on terminated property tax since 1965.
00:29:58 Right, we made some one sort of minor intervention in 1990.
00:30:03 Right, that's literally quite to be honest
00:30:05 with the 1990 coup.
00:30:07 I would've taken about another,
00:30:09 introduced it in 2009, 15 years later,
00:30:11 we're now starting to implement it
00:30:13 and we haven't implemented it well at all.
00:30:16 But it is clear that the government had no choice,
00:30:20 but in terms of implementing it,
00:30:21 just simply don't have the revenue
00:30:22 to basically do anything else.
00:30:25 Now, those are the realities.
00:30:27 The realities that we have to pay more for water.
00:30:29 The realities we're gonna have to pay more for lights.
00:30:31 The realities that we're gonna have to reduce the sub.
00:30:33 Those are very, very difficult political economy
00:30:37 to basically explain to a public that is skeptical.
00:30:41 And you tell them everything is great,
00:30:42 but at the same token, if everything is great
00:30:44 and all the prices are going up
00:30:45 and my standard of living will be dropping,
00:30:47 how do you live with that?
00:30:49 Now, that's a political dilemma
00:30:52 that the prime minister and the minister of finance face.
00:30:55 And the way that they have attempted to solve it
00:30:58 by basically talking about how well they have done
00:31:00 in these circumstances is one way
00:31:02 of trying to deal with it.
00:31:03 The rubber unfortunately hits the road
00:31:05 when you have to explain to people,
00:31:08 these are the realities that I have to live with.
00:31:10 That's the contradiction that has to be resolved.
00:31:14 And attempting to take the ground to say
00:31:17 that I resuscitated the energy sector
00:31:19 and I saved the energy sector is not going to cut it.
00:31:22 - Yes, Mr. Brown, it's always a pleasure speaking with you.
00:31:24 We may have to band our bellies, Mr. Brown,
00:31:27 but thank you very much for your perspective this morning.
00:31:30 We do appreciate it.
00:31:31 Bye for now.
00:31:32 - Thank you very much for your time.
00:31:34 - Of course.
00:31:35 Yes, so we are going to a very short break.
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00:35:31 - Beautiful picture there, yeah?
00:35:33 Is this Girly Sankar's picture?
00:35:35 It is?
00:35:38 It's a beautiful picture on this cold morning
00:35:41 in Port of Spain and other parts of the country.
00:35:44 And I'm sure people are going to say,
00:35:45 hey, this morning is cold, it's chilly.
00:35:49 But think about our relatives,
00:35:50 some of them who are living in the US and so on.
00:35:52 That is cold, yeah?
00:35:54 So a very special good morning to all of you.
00:35:56 Thank you very much for joining us again.
00:35:58 All right, so it's time to discuss V-Express Business
00:36:02 and with us this morning,
00:36:03 we do have multimedia business editor, Joel Julian.
00:36:08 JJ boy, double G.
00:36:09 Joel, always good to have you here.
00:36:13 - Morning, Martin, thank you for the opportunity.
00:36:15 - Yeah, how is it on the outside this morning?
00:36:17 Is it cold and wet? - It's cold, it's cold.
00:36:20 I saw the image I saw, I saw myself there.
00:36:23 (laughing)
00:36:24 I can see myself there a little later.
00:36:26 - I understand that this is the only place in the world
00:36:28 that we can say, well, it's cold and it's rainy,
00:36:31 so we're not coming to work yet.
00:36:32 - Yeah, I almost call in and tell you all I'm here.
00:36:35 (laughing)
00:36:36 - Thank you for coming.
00:36:38 All right, what do we have on the agenda this morning, Joel?
00:36:40 - All right, so Express Business Magazine
00:36:42 is published every Wednesday.
00:36:43 So offering this Wednesday, our lead story,
00:36:47 looks at what has taken place with the NIF2 bond.
00:36:51 Now, NIF2, what is this basically?
00:36:53 It's a bond the government is trying to raise $400 million,
00:36:58 so they came to the public
00:36:59 to see how they could raise the money.
00:37:01 They wanted 400 million,
00:37:03 they got an offer of like a billion dollars.
00:37:06 People came forward.
00:37:07 So what we decided to do with Express Business,
00:37:10 and this is from our editor in chief,
00:37:14 she said, well, there's a situation,
00:37:15 the government wanted to raise 400 million.
00:37:18 You had a billion coming in.
00:37:20 So that means there's an excess of $600 million out there
00:37:24 that citizens have, that they're willing to invest.
00:37:27 What do you do in a situation like that?
00:37:29 So that's our conversation today.
00:37:31 So the headline is cash seeking a home.
00:37:34 So what we understand is that people have their savings,
00:37:37 but they're trying to find robust investments,
00:37:40 solid investments that they could put their money into.
00:37:43 So my colleague, Vishana Pagu, what she did is
00:37:45 she spoke to several experts,
00:37:47 and those experts include the chief executive officer
00:37:50 of the Triantimigo Stock Exchange,
00:37:52 the managing director of Ansem Merchant Bank,
00:37:56 Mr. Ian D'Souza,
00:37:57 the CEO of the stock exchanges, Miss Eva Mitchell.
00:38:01 We also have economist, Dr. Valmiki Arjun,
00:38:04 and the CEO of Firstline Services, Mr. King.
00:38:08 And what they're doing is,
00:38:10 so we are laying the foundation here.
00:38:12 This is the picture.
00:38:14 It means that Trini's have money.
00:38:16 Trini's, you know, there's this extra cash out there,
00:38:19 there's this extra money out there.
00:38:21 What are the opportunities,
00:38:22 and what does this mean for us as an economy?
00:38:24 So in speaking to Miss Mitchell,
00:38:26 what she says is that in terms of the economy,
00:38:29 it means that investors, they're confident.
00:38:33 There's a level of confidence that people will come forward
00:38:35 because what a bond basically is,
00:38:38 is you giving a loan to the government, right?
00:38:42 So the government says,
00:38:42 "Right, we need to raise $400 million.
00:38:47 "We'll take it from individuals, you know,
00:38:50 "Marlon Comet at 20,000," that sort of thing.
00:38:54 So we're just looking at that conversation.
00:38:56 It shows that level of confidence
00:38:57 that investors have in our current climate.
00:39:00 And it also shows that people are looking for some way
00:39:04 to make ledder funds work for them.
00:39:08 So we just speak about the stock market,
00:39:10 the TRT stock market.
00:39:11 We speak about several other investments
00:39:13 that are in currently,
00:39:16 and economist Valmiki Arjun,
00:39:18 what he's saying is that,
00:39:19 when you go for a loan in a bank,
00:39:23 sometimes they ask for security,
00:39:25 whether it be a car or any other form of collateral.
00:39:28 In this case, what the government is using
00:39:30 as a collateral, the form of security,
00:39:32 shares in Republic Bank.
00:39:34 So Dr. Arjun is saying,
00:39:37 seeing that you may not have been able to invest
00:39:39 in the bond of NIF2,
00:39:42 there's even the possibility of looking at
00:39:44 what they are using to back the bond,
00:39:45 which is like the shares in Republic Bank.
00:39:47 So is that overall conversation
00:39:50 about where we are in the economy
00:39:52 in terms of extra cash out there for people to invest?
00:39:56 And what does that mean for us in our investment climate?
00:39:58 - You know, sometimes there is a sort of disconnection,
00:40:02 and the disconnection between the data sometimes
00:40:06 and what is reality.
00:40:08 Because sometimes we would hear so and so about the economy,
00:40:12 we would hear about people are losing jobs
00:40:14 and this and that, and they don't have money.
00:40:16 And when you have something like this,
00:40:18 and you see that there's an extra $600 million,
00:40:22 as you said earlier, some people have money, right?
00:40:26 - And that is just from this,
00:40:28 the person may not even have seen NIF2 as being
00:40:32 something that they would have been interested in.
00:40:33 - Of course.
00:40:34 - So yeah, it really says that there's money out there,
00:40:38 because when they try to raise this fund, this 400 million,
00:40:41 that is a cutoff, that is a ceiling.
00:40:43 So there are people with at least $600,000 out there,
00:40:47 and some of them were like small business owners
00:40:50 trying to invest in stuff like that.
00:40:52 So just looking at the climate
00:40:53 and seeing what other possibilities exist for persons
00:40:56 who have funds that they might want to invest.
00:40:59 - Let's talk a little bit about a giant
00:41:02 in the business sector, Jovi Warner.
00:41:05 - Yeah, so this is a story that I found interesting.
00:41:09 Anybody who has been following the news cycle
00:41:13 in terms of business, you would have known that from December
00:41:17 Massey Holdings would have held their annual general meeting,
00:41:21 the 100th annual general meeting.
00:41:23 And during that, some concerns were raised
00:41:26 by their former general counsel,
00:41:29 Miss Angelique Parisot-Porter.
00:41:32 And since then, a lot of changes have been made
00:41:33 in the executive team,
00:41:35 the executive management team in Massey.
00:41:38 There's currently an investigation going on
00:41:40 because Mrs. Parisot-Porter made some claims.
00:41:43 It came out a 13-page document
00:41:45 that she would have submitted.
00:41:47 So there's a lot going on with Massey.
00:41:48 One of the things that is taking place with Massey
00:41:51 is there's going to be a change in their leadership.
00:41:54 And Mr. Warner, Jovi Warner,
00:41:57 has been the chief executive officer of Massey since 2009.
00:42:03 - Yeah.
00:42:03 - All right, so, and that journey ends with Massey
00:42:08 on Saturday, April the 6th, which is his 59th birthday.
00:42:13 He's taking early retirement.
00:42:16 And in the express business, what we try to do is,
00:42:18 as I said, we always try to look at all the things
00:42:20 that are happening within the business sector.
00:42:23 And any organisation, you have somebody who has been
00:42:26 at the helm of the organisation for over a decade,
00:42:30 now going on like, what, 15 years.
00:42:33 Things that would have happened.
00:42:36 So what we decided to do is look at the journey
00:42:38 of Mr. Warner.
00:42:39 Mr. Warner would have attended a seminar
00:42:42 called the Conscious Capitalism CEO Summit in October.
00:42:47 And in that summit, he did a one-on-one interview
00:42:49 with the author of the book, Conscious Capitalism.
00:42:53 So this, and in it, it just speaks of his journey.
00:42:56 You know, he talks about in 2009,
00:43:00 he became the CEO and the circumstances
00:43:03 that he became the CEO.
00:43:04 The CEO before that, Mr. Bernard Doolal Whiteway,
00:43:07 passed away while the CEO of Neal & Massey
00:43:10 at that point in time, as a result of prostate cancer.
00:43:15 And Mr. Warner, 44 years old,
00:43:21 is thrust into the helm of that organisation.
00:43:23 You know, just show yourself back 44 years.
00:43:25 This is the conglomerate Neal & Massey,
00:43:30 at that point in time, it was like 90 years of existence.
00:43:34 So he talks about this being this young man
00:43:37 taking over the helm.
00:43:38 He speaks about during that period,
00:43:43 he would have come across the book, Conscious Capitalism.
00:43:47 And that opened his eyes in terms of
00:43:49 how he wanted to treat with business.
00:43:50 Now, Conscious Capitalism,
00:43:52 this is just the simplified vision.
00:43:54 What it is, is instead of focusing on profits
00:43:59 or focusing on trying to make money,
00:44:02 you focus on building everything around the company.
00:44:05 So you ensure that your employees are happy.
00:44:08 You ensure that the community,
00:44:09 you're doing things within the community.
00:44:11 You ensure that you as an organisation
00:44:13 try to be more conscious, as the name implies.
00:44:17 And as a result of that,
00:44:19 because you are correcting the inputs,
00:44:22 the output becomes better.
00:44:25 So he talks about actually coming across
00:44:26 Conscious Capitalism and leading the organisation.
00:44:31 Because one of the things that you and I,
00:44:33 when I was younger, I know Hilo.
00:44:35 - Of course. - The Isaac Rocher, you go,
00:44:36 "Hilo." - Yeah.
00:44:37 - In 2015, which is one of the things
00:44:39 that he would have spearheaded, is the change from Hilo.
00:44:41 So Neal & Massey's and Conglomerate,
00:44:43 they own these various businesses.
00:44:46 And what they decided to do is do a rebranding
00:44:47 where people will know, right, instead of-
00:44:49 - Very controversial at that time.
00:44:51 - Very, very controversial, yeah.
00:44:52 'Cause honestly, the other day I asked somebody,
00:44:56 "Hey, you're going Massey?"
00:44:56 And the person was like-
00:44:57 - "Hilo?"
00:44:58 - Yeah, I said, "Hilo, you're going Hilo?"
00:45:00 "Massey, I don't know what is Hilo, I know it's Massey."
00:45:02 - Right.
00:45:03 - So, you know, we had the rebranding,
00:45:06 and he says that that rebranding took place in 2015.
00:45:09 He felt that the organisation flying high
00:45:11 under the Conscious Capitalism,
00:45:14 and 2016, 2017, it was like a tough period, you know,
00:45:18 profits domed.
00:45:19 And this is a big conglomerate.
00:45:21 You know, at the end of the day,
00:45:23 private sector is about profit,
00:45:26 no matter what we try to, how we try to spend it,
00:45:28 it's about profit, right?
00:45:29 And he was saying that at that point in time,
00:45:31 they weren't making the profit
00:45:32 that they were supposed to be making.
00:45:34 And he started to second guess himself,
00:45:36 and this Conscious Capitalism,
00:45:38 because it took more than 90 years.
00:45:41 This goes back to like colonial beginnings and stuff.
00:45:44 So it was a strict sort of organisation,
00:45:46 and you coming in with this bright, fresh,
00:45:48 hey, Conscious Capitalism, you know, that kind of thing.
00:45:51 - True.
00:45:52 - He started to second guess himself,
00:45:54 and decided to go back to what he knew before.
00:45:57 And he just talks about that second guessing of himself.
00:46:01 He talks about there was a retreat that the company had,
00:46:05 and he basically told his leadership team,
00:46:07 he said, "Guys, I feel as though
00:46:09 "you'll have lost respect for me.
00:46:11 "I feel as though I've lost the team."
00:46:14 And he talks about overcoming that hurdle,
00:46:15 and Massey returning to the level of profitability.
00:46:21 And now we kind of see this conversation was in October.
00:46:26 Now we are in April, 2024.
00:46:30 You see this big difference,
00:46:31 because so much has happened within that period of time.
00:46:34 And we just thought it fitting,
00:46:37 seeing that this is our publication
00:46:39 right before his exit from Massey,
00:46:42 that a form of tribute,
00:46:44 a form of understanding what his journey is,
00:46:47 and even helping people understand him a little better.
00:46:51 So that was our purpose behind this article.
00:46:54 I think it outlines his journey,
00:46:58 talking about when he was studying in the United States,
00:47:01 he went to the University of Pennsylvania,
00:47:04 and eventually he turned into Trinidad and Tobago.
00:47:09 And he even spoke about a period when he first came back,
00:47:13 he was operating a company out of Puerto Rico.
00:47:16 Now he and his wife and his family
00:47:18 were living in Trinidad and Tobago.
00:47:19 The office itself is located in Puerto Rico,
00:47:22 but it's also servicing markets like in Caracas
00:47:25 and other parts within the region.
00:47:27 So there's a lot of traveling.
00:47:29 And he's saying at some point he decided to himself,
00:47:31 he saw his daughter Christmas time,
00:47:34 she was seven, she was 10 years old.
00:47:37 And he taught himself,
00:47:39 only have like a good seven, eight years
00:47:42 of doing homework, it's still running up and down
00:47:45 before she moves on and becomes an adult.
00:47:47 So he decided to find a different job,
00:47:51 which is what led him to the conglomerate Massey.
00:47:53 So it's an interesting story.
00:47:55 - I think so.
00:47:56 - And you know, we, apart from the hard business news,
00:47:59 the hard numbers, we also believe that
00:48:02 businesses are run by individuals, run by people.
00:48:05 So we try to tell these sort of people-centric
00:48:07 human interest stories.
00:48:09 And the story that we hoped to focus on,
00:48:12 and we think we did a decent job with,
00:48:14 is looking at the journey of Jervis Warner
00:48:16 and the 14 years of him being at the helm of Massey
00:48:19 and the various changes that would have taken place.
00:48:22 And him now looking to make that final exit stage left
00:48:26 from the organization.
00:48:27 - All right, let's look now at Indian High Commissioner
00:48:30 urges stronger business ties with Trinidad and Tobago.
00:48:33 - Right, so India, Trinidad and Tobago,
00:48:36 let's start with Trinidad and Tobago.
00:48:37 Trinidad and Tobago, our population is roughly
00:48:39 1.4 million people, right?
00:48:42 India, their population is roughly 1.4 billion people.
00:48:45 So you're seeing that disparity
00:48:46 in terms of the size of market.
00:48:48 And what the Indian High Commissioner did,
00:48:50 there was an event that was hosted
00:48:52 by the Kuva Point Research Chamber of Commerce.
00:48:55 And he was their guest.
00:48:58 And he's basically saying that let the business chambers
00:49:01 sort the relationship between the business chambers
00:49:04 in India.
00:49:05 And one of the things that he's saying is that,
00:49:07 you know, businesses in India might be looking
00:49:10 at Trinidad and Tobago market and saying,
00:49:13 you gotta convince me to move from a market
00:49:15 of 1.4 billion to try and even enter
00:49:18 or entertain a market of 1.4 million.
00:49:20 You know, that is, but he's saying that, you know,
00:49:23 if you have these conversations
00:49:25 and we start promoting Trinidad and Tobago,
00:49:27 it will, and not just Trinidad and Tobago
00:49:30 as the country Trinidad and Tobago,
00:49:32 but also as a gateway into the CARICOM region,
00:49:35 the Caribbean region, you know,
00:49:37 because we try to stand as a community,
00:49:40 the Caribbean community.
00:49:42 And he's saying that instead of just pushing it
00:49:45 as the entry in Trinidad and Tobago,
00:49:47 look at it as an entry into the Caribbean
00:49:49 and even a gateway because of where we are located,
00:49:52 Trinidad and Tobago.
00:49:53 We're so close to the Central American,
00:49:56 South American market, as well as the Caribbean market.
00:49:59 So just having that conversation.
00:50:01 And as you know, Marlon, you know,
00:50:03 the relationship between Trinidad and Tobago and India,
00:50:05 we have a strong relationship, bilateral relations.
00:50:08 There's trade back and forth between the two countries.
00:50:12 So it's nothing-
00:50:13 - A long history.
00:50:14 - A long, long history.
00:50:16 There's nothing new to us.
00:50:17 We have the diaspora.
00:50:19 So it's just looking at how best to start
00:50:22 that sort of integration and that partnership
00:50:24 between the business chambers,
00:50:25 the business chambers between the two countries.
00:50:29 - Yeah.
00:50:30 All right, Joel, what else you have for us?
00:50:31 I know you have a few other things for us
00:50:33 to put on the plate this morning.
00:50:34 - Right, so one of the conversations
00:50:36 that we would have had earlier this year
00:50:37 is we looked at the issue of grad,
00:50:41 tertiary level students graduating
00:50:43 from these institutions.
00:50:45 There's a difficulty in terms of getting jobs.
00:50:48 So we have Lara Quintrell-Thomas giving us,
00:50:52 who's basically an HR consultant.
00:50:55 She's giving some advice as what young people can do
00:50:59 and some of the things that you can do.
00:51:00 And she says that when it is you leave
00:51:03 a tertiary level institution or any institution,
00:51:08 and you're trying to enter the world of work,
00:51:09 your job is to find a job, you know?
00:51:13 So she just tried to show how young persons
00:51:15 or persons exiting these institutions
00:51:18 can make themselves more marketable.
00:51:20 I think there's even some advice I read there
00:51:23 where she was saying,
00:51:24 sometimes it may not be the thing that you want to do.
00:51:28 So we all have our ideal goals.
00:51:31 I want to be a professional footballer,
00:51:33 which was my dream when I was younger.
00:51:36 But you know, you can't realize that.
00:51:37 (all laughing)
00:51:38 You know, so she's saying that there might be
00:51:39 a field of study, there might be something
00:51:41 that you want to do, and an opportunity may arise
00:51:45 that may not be exactly what you want to do.
00:51:48 Look for the benefits within those opportunities
00:51:51 and take your learnings from it, you know,
00:51:54 whether or not you go and learn a different skill set
00:51:59 or you learn the trade, you learn business,
00:52:02 dealing with customers, you know,
00:52:04 dealing with an annoying boss, which is, you know.
00:52:08 So just take these learnings
00:52:11 and your job is basically to make yourself marketable
00:52:14 and try your best to find a job.
00:52:18 But we also understand that some people
00:52:22 don't want to just be an employee and respect that.
00:52:25 So within the conversation, my colleague, Vashana Pag,
00:52:28 who also speaks to two entrepreneurs,
00:52:30 one is a eyelash technician.
00:52:34 - Yes.
00:52:35 - And then the other guy deals with like haircuts and stuff,
00:52:41 a barber.
00:52:42 So, you know, we're just looking at those that showing
00:52:44 that you may not, that may not be your path,
00:52:47 your path may not be, I want to enter the workforce
00:52:50 as an employee for any organisation.
00:52:53 I want to chart my own course.
00:52:56 So we have that sort of discussion, you know,
00:52:58 just to give opportunities and show opportunities
00:53:01 and provide avenues that persons may want to pursue
00:53:05 once they end the tertiary level education.
00:53:08 - Yeah, you know, sometimes I hear some people saying,
00:53:11 well, we can't find jobs anywhere,
00:53:13 but sometimes I feel people are sometimes too rigid.
00:53:17 So they have decided, well, here's what,
00:53:19 I want to be a journalist,
00:53:22 but you're not finding jobs in journalism.
00:53:24 So you accept that.
00:53:27 And your decision is I'm not going to do anything
00:53:30 until I get that job.
00:53:31 So there has to be a flexibility among persons.
00:53:35 I also realised that more and more persons
00:53:37 are getting involved in entrepreneurship.
00:53:40 And that's, to me, that's what I'm seeing
00:53:43 in the younger generation.
00:53:47 They have this thrust towards entrepreneurship,
00:53:50 not old people like you and me who,
00:53:52 I told you they're looking for jobs, right?
00:53:55 At organisations, they want to do their own things.
00:53:57 Gerald, we just have about one minute again.
00:53:59 - All right, so Express Business, apart from our articles,
00:54:03 we also have several guest columnists today.
00:54:06 We have Riyad Mohammed.
00:54:07 Riyad is an agricultural consultant.
00:54:10 So he focus in terms of like agricultural, livestock,
00:54:13 farming, always gives some fantastic advice.
00:54:16 We have Jaili Ladarsingh
00:54:17 from the Confederation of Regional Business Chambers.
00:54:20 He looks at the discussion about family business
00:54:23 because from that level of entrepreneurship,
00:54:26 you might start a business with your siblings, your parents.
00:54:31 So apart from the headache with work,
00:54:33 you also have the relationships
00:54:35 that family relationships, you know?
00:54:37 Because you might, whereas you might be able to quarrel
00:54:40 with your boss and then go home and compartmentalise,
00:54:44 if your boss is your mother.
00:54:46 And you had to go and take clout with each other too.
00:54:49 - It's that problem.
00:54:50 - Yeah, so you just have more that conversation,
00:54:52 challenges in terms of family businesses.
00:54:54 And then we also have Mary King,
00:54:56 who is also one of our regular guest columnists.
00:55:00 And that is our product for this week.
00:55:03 And I really thank you for the opportunity.
00:55:05 - Of course, of course, Joel.
00:55:06 Always good to have you here.
00:55:07 All in the express business, everybody, get a copy.
00:55:10 Joel, thank you very much again.
00:55:12 We are going to a very short break, everybody.
00:55:13 We're coming back.
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01:01:55 Fertility, step-by-step, your journey to parenthood.
01:01:58 - All right, so welcome back everyone.
01:02:00 So we're here today with Dr. Katherine Mintobain,
01:02:03 Medical Director and Fertility Doctor,
01:02:05 Trinidad and Tobago IVF and Fertility Center.
01:02:07 Now the Trinidad and Tobago IVF and Fertility Center
01:02:10 is based right here in Trinidad and Tobago
01:02:12 and offers a full range of world-class fertility solutions
01:02:16 for couples having trouble conceiving a baby.
01:02:19 Dr. Katherine, good morning
01:02:21 and thank you very much for joining us.
01:02:22 It's always good to see a familiar face, doctor.
01:02:25 - Well, and it's lovely to be back home with you.
01:02:28 So thank you very much for having me.
01:02:29 - Of course, of course, the pleasure is all ours,
01:02:32 Dr. Katherine.
01:02:33 Well, today's show is all about a very special fertility
01:02:37 event that TT IVF is hosting next month.
01:02:41 Tell us a little bit about it, doctor.
01:02:43 - Absolutely, Marlon.
01:02:45 Yeah, so last year in June, we hosted Conceiving Hope,
01:02:50 your journey to parenthood at the Hilton Trinidad.
01:02:53 And it was the first and only event of its kind
01:02:56 and it's devoted purely to infertility,
01:02:58 people struggling to get a baby
01:03:00 and it was incredibly well-received
01:03:02 and actually there's nothing like it anywhere
01:03:05 in the region, in the Caribbean.
01:03:07 So we're bringing it back
01:03:08 and we're making it even better this year.
01:03:10 So Conceiving Hope 2024, it's on the Hilton
01:03:14 on Saturday, May 25th.
01:03:16 It's a full day event.
01:03:18 So we start at 9 a.m. and we go right through to 3.30 p.m.
01:03:22 And it includes an awful lot.
01:03:23 We've got an educational program
01:03:26 with your expert fertility specialists.
01:03:29 And then we've got our Fertility Hub,
01:03:31 which is this really fun
01:03:33 but very informative interactive exhibition
01:03:36 where you can visit booths and chat with our TT IVF team
01:03:40 about the fertility issues that you're having,
01:03:42 the things that are important to you.
01:03:44 - Yeah, but Dr. Katherine,
01:03:46 before we go into further details,
01:03:48 what made you decide to create Conceiving Hope?
01:03:51 - Well, that's a good question, Marlon.
01:03:55 Why are we having this big event just for infertility?
01:03:58 Well, infertility is actually an incredibly difficult thing
01:04:02 when you suddenly are faced with it unexpectedly
01:04:04 for most people.
01:04:05 It's difficult to deal with.
01:04:07 We've talked about this before.
01:04:09 There's so much stigma around infertility.
01:04:11 People feel a great deal of shame.
01:04:13 And we just really want to create this safe space
01:04:16 where both women and men who are having fertility struggles
01:04:20 could be really be having open conversations.
01:04:23 And that was the starting point for us,
01:04:25 starting with that.
01:04:26 And last year it really worked.
01:04:28 In fact, I would say one of the most successful parts
01:04:32 was the question and answer session during seminars,
01:04:34 during the educational bit.
01:04:36 People put in their questions anonymously
01:04:39 and our medical and science teams answered them.
01:04:41 And actually our Q&A session went for over an hour and a half
01:04:44 we got 138 questions.
01:04:47 So that's definitely back on the agenda this year.
01:04:49 People really wanted that.
01:04:51 But we changed, we did things that we knew.
01:04:53 We made the exhibition floor interactive too.
01:04:56 So we had all of these booths, but they were staffed,
01:04:59 they were hosted by expert members of our TTIVF team.
01:05:03 And we saw some really interesting things happen,
01:05:05 Marlon.
01:05:06 For example, I did not expect this incredible interaction
01:05:10 between the people who came to the event.
01:05:12 They started talking to each other,
01:05:14 sharing their experiences with each other.
01:05:17 They kind of created their own mini support groups
01:05:19 on that day.
01:05:20 People stayed really late.
01:05:22 And Conceiving Hope became a place
01:05:24 where they could kind of help and encourage each other.
01:05:27 And that's so important because the second goal of this event,
01:05:31 Conceiving Hope, is to help people understand
01:05:34 if you're struggling with fertility problems,
01:05:36 if you're not getting pregnant, you're absolutely not alone.
01:05:40 There is help.
01:05:41 There is hope as well.
01:05:44 And of course, our third goal at the event
01:05:45 is something that is a real passion of mine.
01:05:48 It's empowering patients.
01:05:51 We really want to help you travel your path to parenthood
01:05:54 with hope and confidence and make it a nicer experience
01:05:59 than people think it's going to be.
01:06:01 And to do that, you need information.
01:06:04 I think I say this all the time, but knowledge really is power.
01:06:09 And at Conceiving Hope, you can learn
01:06:11 everything you want to know about infertility
01:06:13 and the latest fertility treatments.
01:06:15 Yeah.
01:06:15 So let's get the details out there, Dr. Katherine.
01:06:17 When and where and how can viewers register?
01:06:22 So Marlon, Conceiving Hope is on May 25.
01:06:26 So it's not this month, next month,
01:06:29 at the Hilton Trinidad.
01:06:31 It is a free event.
01:06:32 We don't charge for it, but we do have limited space.
01:06:36 And we got full last time.
01:06:38 So we're urging everyone to register early to secure
01:06:40 your seat at the event.
01:06:42 You can register online.
01:06:43 So come to our website.
01:06:44 That's the best place.
01:06:45 It's trinidadivf.com.
01:06:48 And you can have a look at the agenda there
01:06:50 and all the details.
01:06:51 And people generally came along as couples.
01:06:53 Or if you're a single woman or your partner couldn't attend,
01:06:57 people tend to bring a friend, a sister, their mom.
01:07:00 If you need to call us at TTIVF if you need help registering,
01:07:04 622-8869 or 222-8341.
01:07:09 Yeah.
01:07:09 And as Dr. Katherine said, it is a free event, right?
01:07:12 So part one of Conceiving Hope 2024 is the education program.
01:07:17 Tell us a little bit about that, Dr. Katherine.
01:07:20 So Marlon, we're going to have three seminars.
01:07:23 The first one is called Your Fertility Journey.
01:07:25 And we'll introduce you to the experts
01:07:27 that you'll meet on the path to parenthood.
01:07:29 So you see me.
01:07:30 I come on TV.
01:07:31 I talk.
01:07:31 But I'm one of a very large team.
01:07:34 So I'll also be introducing people to Dr. Terri-Ann
01:07:37 Rampall, one of our wonderful fertility doctors.
01:07:39 And she'll be talking about your fertility journey.
01:07:42 The second session is Fertility 101.
01:07:46 Dr. Brickel Timothy has been with us for years.
01:07:48 She's a fertility specialist.
01:07:49 She's going to talk about the different causes
01:07:51 of infertility.
01:07:52 I think it's really, really important to understand
01:07:55 infertility is a medical condition.
01:07:57 So we're going to break down the science of infertility for you
01:08:00 so you can understand it and you know
01:08:02 what's going on in your body.
01:08:04 And then the third seminar in the morning
01:08:06 is called The Many Ways to Have a Baby.
01:08:08 That's my bit, along with my incredible science director,
01:08:11 Dr. Eva Schenkman.
01:08:13 She's an American, comes into Trinidad.
01:08:17 She's incredible.
01:08:18 She's been doing this work in fertility for many, many years,
01:08:21 maybe as long as I have.
01:08:23 And she and I will help you--
01:08:24 we're going to explain all the sophisticated medical
01:08:26 treatments and some of the simple ones
01:08:28 as well that make parenthood possible when you're
01:08:31 struggling with infertility.
01:08:32 So we're talking IVF, IUI.
01:08:34 But we'll also talk about egg donation, sperm donation,
01:08:37 embryo donation, and everything else in between.
01:08:40 And then after those seminars, that's our Q&A session.
01:08:44 And then the very best bit, the bit that actually
01:08:46 made me get a little bit tearful last time,
01:08:48 we have two fertility warrior moms
01:08:51 who've had their beautiful IVF babies with us.
01:08:53 And they're going to come and share their experiences, how
01:08:57 it felt to go through their treatment, the highs
01:08:59 and the lows, and the joy of the family that can be created
01:09:03 and holding their babies.
01:09:04 And that was the most fun bit last time.
01:09:06 It was incredible.
01:09:07 And what they share will give you invaluable insights,
01:09:11 really, I think, if you're starting your journey
01:09:13 along this infertility road.
01:09:15 Yeah.
01:09:16 But Dr. Catherine, there's a part two.
01:09:17 There's a part two of Conceiving Hope.
01:09:20 And it is going to be the opening of the exhibit floor,
01:09:23 correct?
01:09:25 Yeah, that's right, Marlon.
01:09:26 So we have four booths, all hosted
01:09:29 by members of the TTIVF team.
01:09:32 The first booth is devoted to IVF and IUI solutions,
01:09:36 the treatments, where you can learn about how we personalize
01:09:38 it to you, what you might need, what it all means.
01:09:42 We'll talk a bit about donor eggs, donor sperm,
01:09:44 if that's what you need.
01:09:45 And you can consult with our experts
01:09:47 about your specific fertility challenges.
01:09:51 We have a booth devoted especially
01:09:52 to male infertility.
01:09:53 That's our Fertility Fighter Pilot exhibit.
01:09:57 The fighter pilot, of course, is the sperm.
01:09:59 And in this booth, you can explore the science
01:10:02 about sperm and male infertility.
01:10:05 You can learn about all of the many, many factors
01:10:08 that affect sperm health.
01:10:11 And Marlon, I mean, you'll remember
01:10:12 from our previous shows, can you remember
01:10:15 what the number one cause of infertility in TNT is?
01:10:19 It's male infertility.
01:10:21 So that's a really important booth.
01:10:22 Guys loved that last year.
01:10:26 Third booth is all about fertility testing.
01:10:28 What tests might I need?
01:10:29 How do I get going?
01:10:30 What's going to help me understand about my fertility?
01:10:34 And then our fourth booth is devoted to PCOS.
01:10:36 PCOS, PCOS, it's such a significant issue in TNT,
01:10:41 much commoner here than in other countries.
01:10:44 It really can affect your fertility sometimes.
01:10:46 Not for everyone, but sometimes.
01:10:49 And you know, Marlon, PCOS is so much more common in TNT
01:10:52 in the Caribbean than it is in other countries.
01:10:54 And we see so many people with this condition.
01:10:56 We get so many questions.
01:10:58 So we've really developed at TTI their specialist expertise
01:11:02 and strategies that can really help you optimize
01:11:06 getting pregnant and your fertility if you have PCOS.
01:11:09 And then, I'm forgetting the last one.
01:11:14 My goodness, that's my bit.
01:11:17 So while people are on the exhibition floor,
01:11:19 they can also visit the doctor's lounge.
01:11:21 And that's where I'll be.
01:11:22 You can have a one-on-one with me.
01:11:24 You can meet our other two doctors, Dr. Terri-Ann Rampal,
01:11:27 Dr. Raquel Timothy, and our science director,
01:11:29 Dr. Eva Schenkman.
01:11:31 We're all there to answer your questions.
01:11:32 Last year, that took a long time.
01:11:34 We had so much fun.
01:11:35 And then we've also got a nurse's desk
01:11:37 where you can check in to speak with our fertility nurses,
01:11:41 booking your free, you know,
01:11:42 there's a free follow-up appointment
01:11:44 at the TTIBF clinic with the nurses.
01:11:46 And you can book that basically there, right on the spot.
01:11:49 - Yeah.
01:11:50 So Dr. Catherine, I see that the men are coming along, right?
01:11:53 So you mentioned your male fertility booth.
01:11:56 I'm curious, men are traditionally quite reluctant
01:12:00 to seek fertility advice.
01:12:01 Was it difficult to get them to participate
01:12:04 in conceiving hope last year?
01:12:06 - You know, you're absolutely right, Marlon.
01:12:10 Men absolutely do not love talking about infertility.
01:12:14 It's one of those really difficult taboos to overcome
01:12:19 when you're having those infertility conversations.
01:12:21 But you know what, last year, it was quite incredible.
01:12:23 It was fascinating.
01:12:25 We saw so many men in the audience
01:12:27 and on the exhibition floor,
01:12:28 and I didn't expect that.
01:12:30 I've done fertility conferences for 20 years
01:12:32 and it's always 80, 90% women.
01:12:35 And it wasn't last year at conceiving hope.
01:12:37 There were so many men there.
01:12:39 And let me tell you, they were not shy about speaking out.
01:12:43 They were there.
01:12:45 They were asking questions.
01:12:46 They were sitting side by side with their partners
01:12:48 in the seminars, walking hand in hand with them
01:12:51 in the fertility hub.
01:12:52 When we had our fertility warriors on stage,
01:12:54 our patients that have had babies with us,
01:12:56 they were like, "You go, girl."
01:12:57 And they were asking questions
01:12:58 and there was a lot of conversation.
01:13:01 I thought it was a huge breakthrough.
01:13:03 And it was one of the things that made me happiest.
01:13:06 And it was one of the most unexpected things
01:13:08 that happened at conceiving hope last year.
01:13:10 - Yeah, Dr. Catherine, support is also so very important.
01:13:14 So one more time again for the details,
01:13:16 Dr. Catherine, when and where?
01:13:18 - So conceiving hope, it's taking place May 25th
01:13:22 at the Hilton in Trinidad.
01:13:24 It's a free event for men and women
01:13:27 struggling with getting pregnant and infertility.
01:13:29 We're asking everyone to arrive at 8.30 a.m. sharp
01:13:32 because we get everyone seated
01:13:34 and the educational program starts at nine o'clock
01:13:37 on the dot.
01:13:38 We're a fertility clinic.
01:13:39 Everything is done according to time.
01:13:41 That's really important.
01:13:42 You can register.
01:13:43 You need to register to get a spot and it's done online.
01:13:47 So come to our website, trinidadivf.com.
01:13:51 There you'll be able to find the agenda
01:13:53 and all the details about the event.
01:13:55 As I said before, call us if you need help registering,
01:13:58 622-8869.
01:14:01 And as I said, it's free.
01:14:02 There is no charge to attend, but we do have limited space.
01:14:07 So we're telling everyone, we're really urging you,
01:14:09 you know, register early and then you know
01:14:11 you'll get your seat at the event.
01:14:13 - Yeah, and I know that your team is excited,
01:14:15 right, Dr. Catherine?
01:14:16 - Oh yeah, Marlon, we really are.
01:14:19 I think last year was some of the most fun
01:14:22 that the team had had, you know.
01:14:23 It's lovely getting out there and talking with patients
01:14:26 and breaking down barriers.
01:14:28 Breaking down the barriers that stop people
01:14:30 talking about infertility, that's what we do.
01:14:32 You know, that's why we come to work every day.
01:14:35 It's such a challenging journey.
01:14:38 And I think this event, Conceiving Hope, is one way
01:14:42 we can make it just a little bit better
01:14:43 for all the men and women trying to have that family
01:14:46 that they really want.
01:14:48 - Yeah, and it's also challenging very much so
01:14:51 for the couples who are trying to have a baby.
01:14:56 And Dr. Catherine, that is why organizations
01:15:01 such as yours are so important.
01:15:03 - Absolutely, and you know, getting good information
01:15:06 out there, the real stuff, the stuff that really helps you.
01:15:10 And we had fun in the event last year.
01:15:11 We also had sperm and eggs.
01:15:13 We had all sorts of interesting things.
01:15:15 You can come and take your Instagram pictures
01:15:17 in our different areas.
01:15:18 So we tried to, we made it fun.
01:15:20 It was a great conversation.
01:15:23 But there's a lot to talk about.
01:15:24 And really, at the end of the day, you know,
01:15:26 there are one in six couples struggle with infertility.
01:15:29 You're really not alone.
01:15:31 And this event is obviously hugely needed.
01:15:34 So it's something that I think if you're struggling
01:15:36 with infertility, you'll get so much benefit from, hugely.
01:15:39 - Dr. Catherine, it's always a pleasure speaking with you.
01:15:41 Thank you very much for the information this morning.
01:15:44 We wish you all the best for your event.
01:15:46 - Thank you, Mylon, thank you.
01:15:48 - Okay, bye for now.
01:15:50 So we are going to a very short break, everybody.
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01:16:49 - Get ready for an electrifying night of entertainment.
01:16:54 - As John Thomas presents Showtime.
01:16:57 - A musical theater extravaganza you won't want to miss.
01:17:00 Join us at Queen's Hall on April 5th and 6th
01:17:03 for a dazzling showcase featuring Trinidad
01:17:06 and Tobago's brightest young stars.
01:17:08 - From the spellbinding magic of Wicked
01:17:10 to the irresistible energy of Mamma Mia.
01:17:12 - Be entranced by the enchanting melodies
01:17:14 of the Little Mermaid, captivated by the show stopping numbers
01:17:18 from the greatest showman.
01:17:19 - And inspired from touching moments of dear Evan Hansen.
01:17:22 - Showtime has something for everyone.
01:17:25 Get your early bird tickets now at Queen's Hall box office
01:17:28 or at queenshalltt.com.
01:17:30 - Don't miss your chance to experience
01:17:32 the magic of Showtime.
01:17:34 - I grew up in a country, small little town
01:17:41 called Bougmanatras in Santa Cruz.
01:17:44 Very special place to grow up in.
01:17:46 And now as an adult, I think of those children
01:17:50 in Trinidad and Tobago who do not have a safe place,
01:17:54 who are maybe not even lying in their own beds or a bed.
01:17:59 And there's no roof to shade them from the sun,
01:18:03 nor to protect them from the rain.
01:18:04 When I started looking at Habitat for Humanity
01:18:09 Trinidad and Tobago, they answered a call
01:18:12 that I have deep inside of me.
01:18:14 What they were saying to me was that we can make a difference.
01:18:19 I'd like to ask you to consider coming on board.
01:18:23 Consider helping Habitat for Humanity in whatever way
01:18:26 you can.
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01:20:09 - All right, all right, all right.
01:20:11 Welcome back, everybody.
01:20:13 You're good, all of you?
01:20:14 All of you good?
01:20:15 All right, so we have--
01:20:16 we are discussing now a musical theater extravaganza, right?
01:20:20 And we do have in studio this morning,
01:20:23 we do have Heather Dixon, secretary, production
01:20:26 assistant, Eastern Performing Arts Fraternity.
01:20:29 And we also have Anya Lee Bidasi.
01:20:32 She's a cast member.
01:20:33 All right, so ladies, thank you very much for coming this
01:20:35 morning.
01:20:36 - Thank you.
01:20:36 - So let's talk about the production.
01:20:38 What's the name of the production?
01:20:40 - So the name of this show is Showtime,
01:20:44 a musical theater review.
01:20:46 It will take place this coming Friday and Saturday
01:20:49 at the Queens Hall.
01:20:51 And it is a collection of musical theater shows--
01:20:57 music, sorry, songs that you would hear in Broadway shows
01:21:01 and also music from movies.
01:21:04 - All right.
01:21:05 - All right?
01:21:05 So you have songs from Broadway plays such as Wicked
01:21:10 and Dear Evan Hansen.
01:21:12 You would hear songs from The Greatest Showman
01:21:15 and from Sister Act and even from Hayspray.
01:21:18 - All right, all right, OK.
01:21:22 So it's a mixture, a mishmash of Broadway songs.
01:21:31 - Yes.
01:21:31 - So we have--
01:21:33 we're featuring all the classic musical hits,
01:21:35 such as Mamma Mia as well, Hayspray.
01:21:38 But we also are introducing some of the newer Broadway
01:21:41 productions, such as Dear Evan Hansen, which
01:21:43 are more geared towards a younger audience as well.
01:21:46 And it's the first production which
01:21:47 will be introducing the new Believe Junior
01:21:50 collective, which is a new group of young, talented musicians
01:21:55 coming together to put on some spectacular productions.
01:22:00 I mean, the talent that I have seen so far from this cast
01:22:03 is just undoubted.
01:22:06 It's just undeniable.
01:22:08 It's fantastic.
01:22:10 It's going to be an amazing show.
01:22:11 - Yeah.
01:22:12 Is this the first time that you all
01:22:13 are putting on such a production?
01:22:16 - Well, the Eastern Performing Arts fraternity is--
01:22:20 the part of the Eastern Performing Arts fraternity
01:22:23 is the Believe collective.
01:22:25 And that's what you hear every Christmas.
01:22:27 - OK.
01:22:28 - Right?
01:22:28 You always have Believe.
01:22:30 And so this is an offshoot where now we
01:22:33 are giving the show to our younger collective.
01:22:37 This is the introduction, actually,
01:22:40 of the Believe youth collective.
01:22:43 And so we have searched and we have
01:22:47 found some really bright and upcoming performers.
01:22:52 We have Keoni Graves.
01:22:53 We have Alyssa Joseph.
01:22:55 We have, actually, Tazea O'Connor, who is--
01:22:59 - A monarch.
01:23:00 - A monarch.
01:23:01 So what we really wanted to do is
01:23:03 get a really nice mix of the older youth and the younger
01:23:07 ones so that even the older ones can mentor.
01:23:11 We give them an opportunity to mentor our younger generations
01:23:14 coming up so that there's always that continuity going forward.
01:23:19 So whenever we really put these shows on,
01:23:22 it's really with a bigger picture in mind.
01:23:25 - Right.
01:23:25 - Because we're here to stay.
01:23:29 And we have to think about how we're
01:23:32 going to make that happen.
01:23:34 - Right.
01:23:35 So Anya, she's a cast member.
01:23:38 - Yes.
01:23:40 - So I suspect, Anya, it's going to be a lot of singing.
01:23:47 - Yes.
01:23:47 - And some acting, too.
01:23:49 - Yes, of course.
01:23:49 The works.
01:23:50 - And is everything intertwined in a certain way
01:23:53 to tell a story?
01:23:55 - Of course.
01:23:57 There's a lot of fantastic singers,
01:23:59 but there's also a lot of fantastic dancers and actors.
01:24:03 These youth can do everything.
01:24:05 - Right.
01:24:05 - And everything just comes together in harmony
01:24:08 to create some spectacular, powerful, meaningful
01:24:12 performances.
01:24:13 I'm sure every single performance, every single cast
01:24:17 member has a piece that's going to move everybody
01:24:20 in the audience.
01:24:21 And it's just spectacular, the talent of these youth.
01:24:25 Like, every day--
01:24:27 - She's not always a spectacular.
01:24:28 - I know, every day I'm always so consistently amazed
01:24:30 by what I'm hearing.
01:24:31 And it's so refreshing to see young people
01:24:33 doing amazing things, especially in today's society.
01:24:37 It's-- yeah.
01:24:38 - Yeah.
01:24:39 - It's priceless.
01:24:39 - Spectacular.
01:24:40 - Yeah.
01:24:40 - Spectacular.
01:24:41 [LAUGHTER]
01:24:43 - Heather.
01:24:44 But you all could have chosen a number of themes.
01:24:48 Why this sort of theme?
01:24:50 - Well, our review is a mishmash.
01:24:53 - Yes.
01:24:53 - Right?
01:24:54 And so we wanted to give you a little bit of the old,
01:24:57 a little bit of the new, something that you recognize,
01:25:00 but then something that we can introduce you to.
01:25:03 Hence why we would have selected things
01:25:05 like "The Little Mermaid."
01:25:06 - Right.
01:25:07 - Right?
01:25:07 Everybody knows that.
01:25:09 Right?
01:25:09 But then "David Hansen" is something
01:25:11 that not everybody is going to know.
01:25:12 And therefore, it allows for people to be like, OK,
01:25:16 what's this song?
01:25:18 Where did it come from?
01:25:19 And that now introduces you to the world of Broadway
01:25:22 and piquing that interest.
01:25:26 That is essentially what we're here for.
01:25:28 - Right.
01:25:28 - To develop that interest in not Broadway per se,
01:25:32 but the performing arts.
01:25:34 And by that, we have to introduce new things
01:25:36 to allow for that to happen.
01:25:39 - Yeah.
01:25:40 Because I do know some things about Broadway,
01:25:43 like cats and other things.
01:25:47 [LAUGHTER]
01:25:47 Can't come to mind right now.
01:25:50 But I'm glad that you said that it
01:25:53 is going to be an introduction, not only to the arts,
01:25:57 but certain things that a number of us in Trinidad and Tobago
01:26:01 are not too familiar with as it relates to Broadway.
01:26:05 - Yeah.
01:26:05 - Yeah.
01:26:06 So that's good.
01:26:08 But Anya, you think that we do have a lot of young people
01:26:12 in Trinidad and Tobago who are interested, not in the arts,
01:26:16 because we know there's an interest there.
01:26:18 We know that.
01:26:19 But when it comes to, let's say, Broadway,
01:26:22 you think that we do have young people who are interested
01:26:26 and can gravitate towards that?
01:26:28 - I'm 100% sure.
01:26:30 I know young people that they're not even singers or performers,
01:26:34 but they still relate to the music and the stories
01:26:38 of these productions.
01:26:40 Because it's not just about the music and the singing
01:26:42 and the dancing.
01:26:43 It's about the story, how you can relate to a character.
01:26:46 So even coming out of this year's music festival,
01:26:51 there was hundreds of youth performing
01:26:55 in musical theater categories, singing solos,
01:26:57 and just showing their love for this particular genre
01:27:02 of performing.
01:27:03 So yeah, for sure.
01:27:04 - But are people feeling a connection to it?
01:27:07 Are people relating to it?
01:27:09 Because when it's being presented in such a pure form,
01:27:15 there may be a challenge for people,
01:27:19 for it to be palatable for the local crowd.
01:27:26 You feel that people are connecting and can relate it
01:27:29 and can understand it?
01:27:32 - I'm going to say that this is an opportunity for that
01:27:36 to happen.
01:27:38 Rather than say yes, I'll say that it is an opportunity.
01:27:42 And we at the Eastern Performing Arts Fraternity
01:27:44 will continue to provide those opportunities
01:27:48 for introduction and for people to learn of something
01:27:54 that they may not necessarily be exposed to on a normal basis.
01:28:02 So this is me being positively hopeful.
01:28:09 I'm not saying that it doesn't exist.
01:28:12 But what I know is that at the end of the day,
01:28:14 our true intention is to always be that conduit
01:28:19 where it happens.
01:28:21 - Yeah.
01:28:22 But I think that there is an interest,
01:28:25 while you are cautious.
01:28:26 But I think that we are seeing similar type events being
01:28:30 held in the year.
01:28:31 - I agree.
01:28:32 - And from all indications is that these events
01:28:37 are being sold out.
01:28:39 So there is this interest, more so maybe
01:28:41 around Christmas time, right?
01:28:43 But they are coming.
01:28:44 People are coming.
01:28:45 - Yes.
01:28:46 But we want to create that avenue where it's not just
01:28:48 Christmas time.
01:28:49 - Not seasonal.
01:28:50 - Not just seasonal.
01:28:52 We want that to be all the time.
01:28:55 Because at the end of the day, interests shouldn't just be,
01:28:59 OK, we do something for Carnival because it's Carnival.
01:29:02 We do something in Christmas because it's Christmas.
01:29:04 We do something for Easter.
01:29:05 But it's a love all around.
01:29:08 You hear Broadway or musical theater review is happening,
01:29:11 we're there.
01:29:13 You understand?
01:29:14 And so, or we're having a show, we're
01:29:16 there because it's an overall love of the arts.
01:29:19 Not I'm going to a show because it's a season.
01:29:23 - Yeah.
01:29:23 But how do we get more and more young people involved?
01:29:27 If, let's say, there's a young person who
01:29:30 is looking at us right now and they
01:29:31 want to get involved in one of these organizations that
01:29:37 can teach you acting and arts in general, how do they do that?
01:29:43 - In all honesty, I think it starts
01:29:46 with putting yourself out there.
01:29:47 For example, before I became a soloist
01:29:52 and got chosen for these sorts of productions,
01:29:54 I sang in my school choir.
01:29:56 - Yes.
01:29:57 - I performed in parang competitions in school.
01:30:02 I did little things to build up your confidence,
01:30:04 build up your love for it.
01:30:06 And you start small.
01:30:08 You're not going to jump from the bottom to the top
01:30:13 right away.
01:30:14 So you just put yourself out there,
01:30:15 have faith in yourself, have confidence,
01:30:18 and don't ever give up.
01:30:20 And you'll reach there.
01:30:21 - Yeah.
01:30:22 - Yeah.
01:30:22 - But all the product people will come, right?
01:30:24 There's the Instagram and the Facebook and this.
01:30:26 Oh, we have a lot of performers there now, right?
01:30:28 - Post yourself singing, post yourself dancing,
01:30:30 put yourself out there.
01:30:32 Yeah.
01:30:32 - I wonder if I put myself singing and dancing on Instagram
01:30:36 I'll get you, boy.
01:30:37 - You can try.
01:30:39 You can try.
01:30:40 You can try.
01:30:40 - A lot of people got discovered on social media.
01:30:43 - From trying to.
01:30:44 - Yes, Justin Bieber was on YouTube.
01:30:47 All of these big stars.
01:30:49 - Heather, I mean, we are speaking so much about the arts
01:30:53 and so on and Broadway.
01:30:57 But remind us again when the event is.
01:31:00 - All right.
01:31:01 So the event is on Friday and Saturday.
01:31:04 That will be the 5th and the 6th of April, 2024.
01:31:08 It is at the Queen's Hall, St. Anne's.
01:31:11 You can get your tickets, which costs $200 per ticket
01:31:15 at the Queen's Hall box office
01:31:16 or online at the Queen's Hall website.
01:31:19 - Yeah.
01:31:20 Anya, how long did you all prepare for this?
01:31:25 Because I know it may have been a long period,
01:31:30 a trying period.
01:31:33 Sometimes rehearsals may be going late into the evening.
01:31:35 - Yeah, of course.
01:31:36 - Into the night.
01:31:37 - Of course, of course.
01:31:38 - What was it like?
01:31:38 - Well, we did have some time constraints with this show,
01:31:42 but with a lot of hard work and a lot of dedication,
01:31:44 we're now seeing all of our hard work being pulled off.
01:31:48 And, you know, regardless of the time constraints,
01:31:52 just the love for the music that this cast has,
01:31:56 nothing can stop us.
01:31:58 Nothing can hold us back from putting on an amazing production.
01:32:01 So time constraints or not, you know,
01:32:04 we're still going to go out there
01:32:05 and we're going to do our best.
01:32:06 And we're going to show the nation
01:32:08 what our youth has to offer still.
01:32:11 Yeah.
01:32:11 - Was the cast pulled together specifically
01:32:14 for this production?
01:32:15 - Yes, very much so.
01:32:17 So when our chairman, Mr. John Thomas,
01:32:22 decided to have this show,
01:32:24 he literally said, "I want this demographic
01:32:29 and I have a few persons in mind."
01:32:31 And we just went about calling, calling, calling, calling.
01:32:35 And then we had our cast.
01:32:37 Right, so he already kind of already had an idea
01:32:38 of what he wanted to do.
01:32:40 And so it was just a matter of follow through.
01:32:43 I want to just say from the jump that I'm so impressed
01:32:48 'cause I would not have known
01:32:50 'cause John is always scouting.
01:32:52 So when I met these bright young individuals,
01:32:57 I was taken aback with the true amount of talent
01:33:02 that these young people have.
01:33:06 And I'm so encouraged as to what is going to happen
01:33:11 in the future.
01:33:14 The future is bright for the arts,
01:33:17 for the cultural arts sector, it is bright.
01:33:21 And we have a big thing coming.
01:33:25 So get your tickets.
01:33:26 - Get your tickets.
01:33:28 - Big thing coming.
01:33:30 - Yes.
01:33:30 - Anything else you'd like to tell us
01:33:32 before you leave us this morning?
01:33:34 - I hope you guys come and see us.
01:33:38 I know it's gonna be, I hope you'll get your tickets,
01:33:42 come see this, you don't wanna miss this one.
01:33:44 If you're a musical theater fan, if you're a music fan,
01:33:46 if you just wanna come and be inspired by something,
01:33:49 if you wanna see what the youth of today have to offer,
01:33:52 then get your tickets, come and see us.
01:33:54 So I hope to see you guys there.
01:33:56 - Yeah, Eva?
01:33:57 - I want to end everything off by saying
01:34:02 that we have put in a lot of effort into this event.
01:34:06 And once again, the future of the youth is bright
01:34:11 and I want everyone to come out and support our youth.
01:34:15 Support our youth.
01:34:16 We are not all out there.
01:34:19 There are people who want to do good things with their lives
01:34:22 and these youth show that.
01:34:25 So come out, get your tickets,
01:34:27 and really be a source of not only,
01:34:31 be a source of encouragement and support
01:34:34 in the creative and cultural arts sector
01:34:36 in Trinidad and Tobago.
01:34:38 We really do look forward to seeing you guys.
01:34:39 - Yeah, Heather, dramatic here, all of you.
01:34:41 - I am.
01:34:42 I am the drama.
01:34:43 - She's passing it.
01:34:44 - I am the drama.
01:34:45 - We're passing it.
01:34:46 We creatives are like this.
01:34:48 (all laughing)
01:34:50 - All right, so again, we have some information
01:34:52 up on the television here for you.
01:34:56 Again, just remind us, where can people get tickets again?
01:34:58 - You can get your tickets at the Queens Hall Box Office
01:35:01 and at their website on QH Online.
01:35:05 - Okay. - Queens Hall Online, yeah.
01:35:06 - Heather, Anya, it was a pleasure speaking with you.
01:35:09 - Oh, pleasure. - It was a pleasure.
01:35:10 - Thank you for having us. - Thank you.
01:35:12 - Thank you.
01:35:13 And I wish you all the best for your event.
01:35:17 I know that it will go well.
01:35:18 - Thank you so much. - As I said,
01:35:19 there's an interest there.
01:35:20 - Thank you so much.
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01:38:57 So we're talking now about the second National Aerobathon.
01:39:00 We do have in studio this morning,
01:39:02 Lathalia Gill, gym instructor
01:39:04 and Khalifa McCollin, scholarship student, netball.
01:39:07 Ladies, thank you very much for coming this morning.
01:39:09 - It's definitely a pleasure to be here.
01:39:11 - Thank you for having us.
01:39:12 - Lathalia, let's begin with you.
01:39:14 - Yes.
01:39:15 - And let's speak about the National Aerobathon.
01:39:16 It's the second National Aerobathon.
01:39:19 - Yes, it is.
01:39:20 We would have kept the first National Aerobathon last year.
01:39:23 It was a complete success.
01:39:25 It was something, an initiative
01:39:26 that the Sports Unit of UTT,
01:39:29 University of Trinidad and Tobago came up with.
01:39:31 What we wanted to do initially
01:39:33 is to try to bring a lot of awareness
01:39:37 where it is that physical exercises is concerned,
01:39:40 healthy lifestyle is concerned.
01:39:41 So it's not just about aerobics,
01:39:43 but it's about actually promoting a healthy lifestyle.
01:39:46 We have seen significant improvement in our students,
01:39:49 in our student athletes,
01:39:51 where it is that we promote healthy lifestyle
01:39:55 and healthy living, even with our staff members as well.
01:39:57 So what we wanted to do is not just keep this
01:40:00 in the university, but even take it out to the public
01:40:02 where it is that we promote healthy lifestyle
01:40:04 through this aerobathon.
01:40:05 - Yeah.
01:40:06 - Yes.
01:40:07 - Khalifa, and she's a scholarship student,
01:40:11 as I said earlier, a netball.
01:40:13 Tell us about your participation here
01:40:15 in the National Aerobathon.
01:40:16 - So this year would be the first time
01:40:18 that I'd be participating in the National Aerobathon.
01:40:22 I am very excited.
01:40:24 The biggest thing for me is that I can share it
01:40:26 with my family and my friends.
01:40:28 And as Natalia would have mentioned,
01:40:30 this is about promoting a healthy lifestyle
01:40:32 and healthy living.
01:40:33 And I think that's really important
01:40:34 to put out there into our communities.
01:40:37 As you know, heart disease and things like that
01:40:39 are quite rampant in Trinidad and Tobago.
01:40:41 So I think this would be a very, very good opportunity
01:40:44 for people to come and educate themselves
01:40:46 about those things and get active.
01:40:48 - Yeah.
01:40:49 Natalia, who's the aerobathon for?
01:40:52 - Oh, the aerobathon is for everyone.
01:40:54 I must say.
01:40:55 What we try to do is we try to make it in a way
01:40:58 that it's family-oriented as well.
01:41:00 So from the youngest member of your family
01:41:01 to the oldest member of your family
01:41:03 could definitely be there.
01:41:04 We try to cater for everyone.
01:41:07 As Khalifa was saying, there's a lot of health issues
01:41:11 that we see all over Trinidad and Tobago.
01:41:13 There's a ramp in high blood pressure,
01:41:15 a ramp in sugar diabetes.
01:41:17 Recently I went to the hospital,
01:41:19 and now I'm not just seeing older folks
01:41:21 with these diseases, but I'm seeing people
01:41:24 that are much young, young like myself and Khalifa,
01:41:26 that are with these diseases.
01:41:29 So what we try to do is not just cater for a regular,
01:41:31 just the in-between group,
01:41:33 but we try to cater for everyone throughout
01:41:35 so that everyone could come and participate
01:41:37 and be a part of it.
01:41:38 - Yeah, but you know, Natalia,
01:41:39 some people may feel, "This is not for me.
01:41:42 "This is grueling."
01:41:43 - Yes, I love the fact that you would have mentioned that
01:41:45 because I think that a lot of people,
01:41:48 even as a fitness trainer myself,
01:41:49 I think that a lot of people are afraid
01:41:51 to step out of their comfort zone
01:41:53 or they believe that maybe I'm too obese
01:41:56 or maybe this is not for me or maybe I can't
01:41:58 or maybe I'm not physically active enough.
01:42:01 And what we're trying to do is bring awareness
01:42:03 to this also, which is you come and have a great time.
01:42:07 It's about fun and fitness as well.
01:42:09 It's not just about being so serious about it
01:42:11 to the point where it is that you can't have fun,
01:42:13 but we're encouraging the entire family to come.
01:42:15 So you may have a family member
01:42:17 that may be struggling with obesity.
01:42:19 You bring them.
01:42:20 Let's all have fun together.
01:42:21 We're not gonna look at that.
01:42:22 What we're gonna look at is actually promoting
01:42:25 a healthy lifestyle.
01:42:26 - Yeah. - Yeah.
01:42:27 - And Khalifa, as Lothalia speaks,
01:42:31 Khalifa is shaking her head,
01:42:32 but you know, Khalifa,
01:42:34 I think that there are so many people out there
01:42:37 who want to get on this train
01:42:39 of living a healthy lifestyle and so on.
01:42:43 And I'm asking this question
01:42:46 because of your experience in netball.
01:42:50 It's easy to get on,
01:42:52 but it's difficult to stay on.
01:42:54 - Yes, it definitely is.
01:42:55 And I think you need to also find that motivation
01:42:58 within yourself, set some goals for yourself,
01:43:00 prioritize, okay, this is what I want for my life.
01:43:02 I want to live a great life, a full life.
01:43:05 So I think that is where, you know,
01:43:07 the idea of staying on will come in, you know?
01:43:11 And I think as Natalia said, this is a team initiative.
01:43:15 This is about family.
01:43:16 This is about friends.
01:43:17 So let's say I would invite,
01:43:19 my friends aren't netballers,
01:43:20 but I would invite them there.
01:43:21 I would help them to say, okay,
01:43:24 let's try to live a healthy life.
01:43:25 Let's try to do better.
01:43:26 And if I see them falling off a bit,
01:43:28 I will, you know, pull them up and you know.
01:43:31 - In some cases you have to push.
01:43:32 You have to push.
01:43:33 - Yes, you have to push them off.
01:43:34 - You have to push them off.
01:43:35 - Give them a good push.
01:43:36 - I also want to mention that, you know,
01:43:38 what we try to do at the University of Trinidad and Tobago
01:43:40 is that last year we would have kept the aerobics on.
01:43:43 What I saw last year is this.
01:43:44 There were people, we kept it at C3 Center.
01:43:47 What I saw is a lot of people were coming
01:43:48 and shopping at C3 Center,
01:43:50 because you know that's a mall, right?
01:43:51 So while people were coming to shop,
01:43:54 what they did is that they actually,
01:43:56 they saw the aerobics happening
01:43:57 and they just decided to register on spot and join,
01:44:00 because then they realized my peers are there.
01:44:02 There are people that I actually know
01:44:03 that are taking part in this thing.
01:44:05 So I want to be a part of this too, right?
01:44:07 So that's what we're trying to do,
01:44:08 to have everybody come and be a part
01:44:10 and be a part of it there with us.
01:44:12 - Yeah, let's speak about registration.
01:44:14 - Yes, so registration is very simple and very easy.
01:44:17 We try to make it as easy as possible.
01:44:18 So what you're going to do is you can check out
01:44:20 any one of our social media pages,
01:44:22 the Aerobics and Flyers,
01:44:23 there is a link that's attached to it.
01:44:25 On that link, you click that link
01:44:27 and it directs you straight to the end of registration.
01:44:30 You can even pay online as well.
01:44:32 So you pay online and then you're secured, you're registered.
01:44:35 Yeah.
01:44:36 - What's it cost?
01:44:37 - It's $100 only.
01:44:39 And we have amazing prizes.
01:44:41 So we're not gender biased at UTT, right?
01:44:44 So both female and male would be getting
01:44:47 a first prize of $3,000, right?
01:44:50 We also have prizes for persons over 50,
01:44:53 persons under 20 and a lot of hampers.
01:44:55 I know last year, the people totally enjoyed
01:44:57 the amount of hampers we gave out, right?
01:44:59 'Cause it was excellent, it was really good.
01:45:02 And I'm just inviting the entire public
01:45:03 to make sure and be there with us
01:45:05 'cause we're going to have an excellent time.
01:45:07 - Yeah, I feel Khalifa worth her $3,000.
01:45:10 - Yeah.
01:45:10 (laughing)
01:45:11 I'll be there volunteering.
01:45:13 I'll be there volunteering.
01:45:14 - Yes.
01:45:15 - And this year we're also partnering
01:45:17 with the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee
01:45:19 who is gonna be there
01:45:20 and they're also gonna be giving information.
01:45:22 So at UTT, what we try to do,
01:45:24 we don't always just stay at one level.
01:45:26 So last year, the last year's a little bit done,
01:45:28 we sat after, we discussed what could we do
01:45:30 to make it even better.
01:45:32 So this year we're gonna have a lot of information
01:45:34 being shared there.
01:45:35 So some of our students at the UTT
01:45:37 are currently doing research in health
01:45:39 and wellness and nutrition.
01:45:41 So they're gonna be there to share information.
01:45:43 I believe that knowledge is power.
01:45:45 A lot of people don't have the knowledge
01:45:47 of taking care of themselves and their health.
01:45:49 So we have students that will be on board
01:45:51 and ready to share that information,
01:45:53 give off that information.
01:45:55 TTOC is gonna be there talking about female in sports.
01:45:59 And I know Khalifa should be excited about that as well.
01:46:02 - Definitely.
01:46:03 - So it's so much information,
01:46:04 so much things that will be happening.
01:46:05 We have the rehabilitation team that will be there.
01:46:08 It's a lot, a lot of information.
01:46:10 So it's not just about the aerobaton,
01:46:11 but it's also educating the public
01:46:14 about living a healthy lifestyle, being healthy,
01:46:17 and just becoming a better you.
01:46:18 - Yeah, Natalia is a motivational speaker too.
01:46:22 Ladies, you have a few more minutes to stay with me,
01:46:24 all right, but we're going to a very short break, right?
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01:48:19 - All right, so welcome back, everyone.
01:48:32 We are still speaking about the second national aerobathon,
01:48:36 and we do have Lathalia Gill, gym instructor,
01:48:38 and Kalifa McCollin, scholarship student in netball.
01:48:42 Lathalia, let's speak a little bit about the venue.
01:48:45 - Okay, so this year, our aerobathon will be held
01:48:48 at the National Cycling Center at Balmain Coover.
01:48:52 Last year, we kept it at an open place.
01:48:55 This year, it's at an enclosed place,
01:48:57 so we don't have to think about if the rain will fall
01:48:59 and wet me while I'm doing the aerobathon.
01:49:01 - Right, right. - Right?
01:49:02 So we have a different venue to consider that as well.
01:49:05 It's a huge venue, right?
01:49:07 So be sure to bring the whole family,
01:49:10 'cause it's a really nice venue
01:49:11 that we'll be doing it that day.
01:49:12 - Yeah, and before we went to our break,
01:49:14 you were speaking about women participation in sport.
01:49:19 And Kalifa, how do you see that,
01:49:23 women participation in sport in Trinidad and Tobago?
01:49:26 You think that more and more women
01:49:27 are gravitating towards it?
01:49:29 - Yes, most definitely,
01:49:31 especially in netball, I can speak for netball.
01:49:34 I know at the primary school level,
01:49:35 we have more children getting involved.
01:49:38 We have, even at the secondary school level,
01:49:40 we have more students playing at a younger age,
01:49:43 because most times what happens is that they say,
01:49:45 "Okay, the younger students can't play.
01:49:47 "Only the middle-level students are allowed to play."
01:49:49 But now we have more involvement across the board.
01:49:53 So for me, I would have told my netball team,
01:49:56 my netball club, come and get involved in the aerobathon.
01:50:01 I'm trying to invigorate the national players
01:50:03 to get involved as well.
01:50:04 And I know it is going to be a great time.
01:50:07 - Yeah.
01:50:07 On that issue of women participation,
01:50:14 but Kalifa, I didn't mean to startle you,
01:50:18 (both laughing)
01:50:19 but sport is a viable option, right?
01:50:23 - Definitely.
01:50:24 - For the young people out there, right?
01:50:26 - It definitely is,
01:50:27 because I would have made a career out of sport
01:50:30 and for six years I've been a professional,
01:50:34 well, was a professional netball player.
01:50:36 I had so many opportunities out there.
01:50:38 I was able to see the world.
01:50:39 I would have played on a national team,
01:50:41 traveled, saw so many different places,
01:50:44 met new people and had different experiences.
01:50:47 So sport, there is a lot of life in sport.
01:50:51 There are many opportunities.
01:50:52 So I think women definitely need to get involved,
01:50:55 especially at a younger age.
01:50:57 - But it not only provides training
01:51:00 in whatever discipline sport that you're involved in,
01:51:04 but it also provides opportunities
01:51:07 for furthering your education.
01:51:09 It's a mix, right?
01:51:10 - Definitely, it's a blend.
01:51:11 And growing up, my parents have always encouraged that.
01:51:15 It's a blend between sports and education.
01:51:17 At the moment, I am an education student
01:51:20 at the UTT Tamana campus.
01:51:22 And I do have training on Wednesdays and Fridays.
01:51:27 Sometimes other days in the week,
01:51:29 we have matches during the week,
01:51:30 you have assignments coming up,
01:51:32 but you have to ensure that you are able to balance that
01:51:35 and try to be as successful as you can.
01:51:37 - Yeah, and just to remind you all,
01:51:39 Khalifa is a scholarship student.
01:51:42 Just to put that on the table out there.
01:51:45 Natalia, let's speak on the day of the aerobathon,
01:51:49 how it is going to be rolled out on that day for us.
01:51:52 - Oh, on that day, so normally,
01:51:54 well, we set up, everything is set up and ready, right?
01:51:57 So when you come, you get your registration,
01:52:00 your number and stuff like that.
01:52:02 You set up, you put on your numbers.
01:52:03 Of course, we have live DJ there.
01:52:05 We have the instructors that are gonna be there as well.
01:52:07 We have a team of instructors that are lined up.
01:52:09 Listen, they are hyper, they are ready to bring their A game.
01:52:13 I know that for sure.
01:52:14 We have our head instructor, who is Mr. Chris Barry.
01:52:16 And then we have other instructors that will be there,
01:52:19 like Mr. Zippy Lincoln Charles.
01:52:21 So I call him the hyper king.
01:52:24 Zippy will have you doing aerobics
01:52:25 and laughing at the same time, right?
01:52:28 So we try to get the best in Trinidad and Tobago
01:52:30 where instructors are concerned.
01:52:32 The instructors will be there.
01:52:33 There's a stage that is set up and everything like that.
01:52:36 And kickoff time is at 4 p.m.
01:52:38 We start at 4 p.m. and we're ready to go.
01:52:40 And after that, we do the distribution of prizes immediately.
01:52:43 - Yeah, from 4 p.m. to what time?
01:52:45 - So it starts at 4 p.m.
01:52:47 The aerobics itself is supposed to be for within an hour or so.
01:52:51 - Okay, and you have medical practitioners on the scene?
01:52:53 - Yes, of course we do.
01:52:54 So apart from the rehabilitation unit
01:52:57 of the sporting department of UTT that will be there,
01:53:00 we also have medical professional
01:53:02 that would be there as well.
01:53:04 - Yeah. - Yeah.
01:53:05 - Khalifa, anything else you'd like to add?
01:53:06 - I would just like to tell everyone to come down,
01:53:10 be a part, get involved on April the 13th,
01:53:13 Saturday, National Cycling Velodrome, Balmain Coover.
01:53:17 Come and get involved in the National Aerobathon.
01:53:19 - Definitely agree with Khalifa.
01:53:21 Be sure to be there.
01:53:23 I know, I know it's you,
01:53:24 but I feel like this year I'm definitely taking part.
01:53:27 - For sure.
01:53:27 - Right?
01:53:28 I just wanna invite the general public,
01:53:30 you know, come out and be a part of this.
01:53:32 It's not just an aerobaton,
01:53:33 but it's an initiative that would benefit
01:53:36 Trinidad and Tobago in the long run.
01:53:38 So be sure to invite a neighbor, invite a friend,
01:53:41 tag a friend, say, you know,
01:53:42 we're going to this thing together, for sure.
01:53:43 We wanna live a healthy lifestyle.
01:53:45 We wanna live long, right?
01:53:46 So let's be a part of this initiative
01:53:48 that we could help one another to become
01:53:50 and to live healthier lifestyles.
01:53:51 - Yeah, feel me coming home for the next week.
01:53:53 - Yes, I wanna make sure and see you there for sure.
01:53:55 - You coming home for that money
01:53:56 and them apples over there.
01:53:57 Yeah?
01:53:58 - Yes, they have a lot of apples.
01:53:59 - Natalia, give us the registration information again
01:54:02 before you leave us.
01:54:03 - Okay, so you can check out any one of our
01:54:04 UTT social media platforms.
01:54:06 We're on Instagram, Facebook as well.
01:54:09 And you will get that link.
01:54:11 It's attached to the flyer.
01:54:12 You also have a barcode.
01:54:13 So now we upgraded, right?
01:54:15 So you also have a barcode that's attached.
01:54:17 So you could just scan the barcode with your phone
01:54:19 and type in your information there.
01:54:20 Registration is as easy as one, two, three.
01:54:23 - Yeah, ladies, it was a pleasure
01:54:24 speaking with you all this morning.
01:54:26 Thank you very much for the information.
01:54:27 We wish you all the best for your event.
01:54:30 - Yes, thank you so much.
01:54:31 - Okay, anytime.
01:54:32 All right, so that's gonna do it for our program
01:54:34 for today, everybody.
01:54:35 In the meantime, we leave you with this image.
01:54:38 Beautiful sky.
01:54:40 See you tomorrow, everybody.
01:54:41 Bye.
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