00:00 So I'm with Bill here, the owner of Hales sawmills in Market Drayton. How long
00:06 you've been with the owner now? July 1982. Wow, superb. And today is your 96th
00:17 birthday? It is, yes. Superb. What's the secret of... Keep working. That's the only thing I can think of.
00:26 Really? Yeah. That's amazing. Keep at it. You know, keep this working and the rest of you will.
00:36 Fantastic. Tell me about the history of Hales and how you got here today.
00:40 Well, I was working at Chippenham Sawmill and doing quite well. I boosted that up from nothing to a massive...
00:54 And they went away, bought an estate down in Chippenham, in Woodshire. I bought the house off them and went to live there because they wanted me to be there and I wouldn't go in a tight cotton.
01:06 And then they said I could have the business, buy the business later on. But, so I decided to leave and set up...
01:18 And I knew that Hales Estate wanted somebody to take over the sawmill. Colonel Congreve was running it but he wanted to retire.
01:28 And there was two lads in the sawmill and they said if I would take them on at the same rates they were on at the estate, I could have it.
01:37 And buy the machinery and that. So that's what I did. I left Chippenham Sawmill and went to Hales.
01:45 And we started there and Richard asked me to go across to the office and he said that he wanted to ask you to join the gang of people on the estate.
02:03 And what work have you got? And I said nothing. I haven't got any work. But I said by the end of the week I will.
02:11 And he threw the pad at me and a pen and said write this down. He'd give me a week's worth.
02:17 And it all started from that. Went buying machinery and driving the lorry and yeah, it's just gone from that. One last step at a time.
02:32 And then the grandson wanted to come in and I said well we've spent enough money at Hales. We've built buildings, tarmac, concrete.
02:43 We'll do it for ourselves next time because you can't roll it up and take it with you. It's not like a bloody carpet.
02:50 And so we found this 8 acre and we came here and everybody said you're an idiot buying that. It's a swamp.
03:01 And we got to MacPhillip's there and they got a firm in that does runways on airfields.
03:10 And they took the topsoil off and then a metre of subsoil and put concrete, cement in and lined and rolled it and then put it back.
03:21 And it's here further. So it's moved rubbish around. The top quality once the people saw we'd done and even if you could run on it with an Arctic.
03:32 And then we did phase 2 which is this we're in now. And then phase 3 was Vanguard Wayshifting.
03:44 I stand back now. They won it. I'm running a passenger but I get pleasure out of seeing it.
03:52 Enjoy your 96th birthday. Well done. Thank you.
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