00:00 And now we will talk about the papers that have been sold out.
00:03 -The papers are still there. -No, not these.
00:05 I will make a cat out of it and put a stamp on it.
00:08 -Okay, you don't have to do that. -You don't have to do that.
00:11 So, what happened is that...
00:13 -The ballot papers. -The ballot papers that we were talking about.
00:16 -The special feature papers. -The special feature papers.
00:18 Those have been sold out. So, what will happen now?
00:21 What will happen now? Some of the results are being announced.
00:23 -I guess there were around 47 results. -Yes, yes.
00:26 When the ballot papers are not available, what will be their future?
00:30 When will the elections be held? What will happen?
00:32 Let's talk to the former Secretary of the Election Commission, Mr. Kaur Dilshad.
00:39 Mr. Kaur Dilshad, thank you so much. Good morning to you.
00:42 Please tell us, the ballot papers are not being sold out.
00:46 All the requisitions are being made.
00:48 So many are required. And the special features are not being sold out.
00:51 So, how many circles are being cut off to prevent the ballot papers?
00:56 This is the responsibility of the Election Commission of Pakistan.
01:00 I can say that the election commission has provided all the funds that it had demanded.
01:07 Rs. 48 billion was sent to the Election Commission of Pakistan by the Ministry of Finance.
01:13 Now, to say that there is a shortage of documents,
01:16 this is a big responsibility of the Election Commission.
01:21 And they will have to answer that when the estimate was made,
01:25 5% to 10% extra papers are sent to the election commission so that the results are there.
01:31 Because sometimes it happens that, I will tell you about my time.
01:36 When I was the Secretary of the Federal Election Commission,
01:38 in 2008 and 2002 elections, it happened that the ballot papers are printed in alphabetical order.
01:45 There were 15 such constituencies whose ballot papers were printed in alphabetical order.
01:51 So, 15 constituencies were printed again day and night.
01:55 So, to say that we have a shortage of documents,
01:58 this is the responsibility of the Election Commission of Pakistan.
02:00 This is the report of the media.
02:03 And the responsibility of the Election Commission of Pakistan is not to fulfill this responsibility.
02:09 Otherwise, if it will fulfill, then a very big problem will arise.
02:12 Sir, this is a situation that has come in front of you.
02:16 Now that it is over and there are 47 constituencies where the ballot papers will be printed and all this.
02:21 But tell me that if this situation happens,
02:24 now the Election Commission has no option,
02:26 how soon can they do this work or will they go to some other option?
02:30 What will happen?
02:31 This will create a very big legal problem.
02:34 A legal and administrative problem will be created.
02:37 If this is true, then the documents that are less than 47 constituencies,
02:41 the shortage of ballot papers,
02:44 this will create an administrative problem.
02:47 But I am sure that last night,
02:49 Chief Election Commissioner was giving his press briefing.
02:53 He had cleared all the doubts and doubts.
02:57 He said that we have complete preparation and all the ballot papers will be published on time.
03:02 In fact, the printing has been done.
03:05 He has started distributing it in some places.
03:07 In the army.
03:08 So, I think this is not right.
03:11 And these documents are complete.
03:14 There is no such thing.
03:15 This will create a big administrative problem.
03:17 I don't think this is true.
03:21 This is not right.
03:22 So, you think this can be sorted out?
03:24 One more question is that the mobile app EMS,
03:29 through which the results of the election are also being transmitted,
03:32 the documents are being displayed.
03:34 And the People's Party, Bilawar Bhutto, has written a letter to the Election Commission.
03:38 So, tell us about this app.
03:40 How effective is it?
03:41 And what will happen to the letter with the reservations?
03:46 These reservations will be somewhat correct.
03:49 And in terms of the election,
03:51 the RTS has already been disrupted in Pakistan.
03:55 Due to which the elections were called disqualified.
03:58 The election situation in 2012 did not make a difference.
04:01 But the political parties had a good way of opposing the elections.
04:05 They had a good plan.
04:09 But the issue here is that if the People's Party has disrespected their reservations,
04:16 then the elections should be resumed in Pakistan.
04:19 The elections should be held again.
04:21 So, I will give you an example of the past.
04:23 When the elections were being held in 2002,
04:25 Benazir Bhutto and the Chief Election Commissioner, Judge Vishal,
04:31 did not have much digital power at that time.
04:37 They only had computers.
04:39 So, they said that the results that will be sent to you through the computer,
04:43 I have a doubt about it.
04:45 It is possible that there is a typo in it.
04:47 So, you should return it.
04:49 The Chief Election Commissioner returned all the computers to the offices.
04:55 And the results were sent to the offices through a manual way, through fax.
04:59 Now, if the People's Party has objections,
05:02 then the elections should be held in Pakistan in the old way,
05:05 through fax.
05:07 And such digital issues are hacked.
05:11 There are many types of attacks.
05:13 There is a very big team of people in the People's Party.
05:17 If they have given any such right,
05:19 then the Election Commission should think about it.
05:23 It should not be ignored.
05:25 Our country is not a digital country.
05:28 The electronic voting machines that can be successful here,
05:31 your metro system works, it is hacked.
05:35 Don't look at such digital issues.
05:39 Our country is a poor country.
05:42 We have not advanced so much that we can do digital.
05:45 We have not used mobile.
05:47 There are many issues.
05:49 This issue should be focused.
05:51 The time is very less.
05:55 But the issues are still there.
05:57 Let's see how the Election Commission can deal with it.
06:01 Thank you very much, Mr. Gauhar Dilshah, for being with us.
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