00:00 I want this conflict to end as soon as possible. I don't want to go on for a moment longer than
00:04 necessary. But a ceasefire to work has got to be sustainable. That means you can't have Hamas in
00:09 power, able to launch rockets, not releasing hostages. That has got to be dealt with.
00:13 And I think you get...
00:15 On the foreign secretary, do you believe that military intervention can defeat Hamas?
00:20 I think that what the Israelis are trying to do is they are trying to get rid of Hamas's ability
00:30 to launch further attacks on Israel. I think you can do that. And one can disagree,
00:37 and I would have, differences with the way they've gone about it.
00:40 Can you defeat an ideology through armed intervention? No, defeating an ideology is
00:49 going to take a lot of other things, including progress towards a political solution to show that
00:54 politics can work and deliver things. But I think if you take the argument, there's nothing more
01:03 that can be done militarily. You just have to freeze things where we are now. You've then got
01:08 to make an argument, well, how do you get the remainder of Hamas out of Gaza, get rid of the
01:14 rocket launchers, get rid of the... And my challenge to those from the global south or
01:20 friends in Arab states is to say, "Okay, there's a ceasefire tomorrow. How do you get rid of Hamas's
01:25 capacity to launch more rockets?" How will you know when that moment has come as British foreign
01:31 secretary? And is it your hope that the UK will be voting for a ceasefire at the UN in the near
01:37 future? I would hope that we will. We'll be voting. I mean, what we did is we defined what we wanted
01:43 as a sustainable ceasefire. The prime minister said that at Prime Minister's Questions. And
01:47 within a few weeks, that was adopted by the UN in Resolution 2720 with unanimous... Well,
01:55 not unanimous agreement because the United States didn't vote in favor, but without a veto.
01:58 So that's our position. Yes, I look forward to the moment when this conflict is over.
02:04 And of course, we spend a lot of time asking what Israel should do next to bring this to an end,
02:10 to finish... We should also spend a nanosecond saying, "If Hamas wanted, they could end this
02:16 tomorrow. They could lay down their arms. They could leave Gaza. They are the ones prolonging
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