00:00because we do want to increase sales space as fast as we possibly can.
00:03Yes, but the PR nightmare for you is coming down the tracks, isn't it?
00:06Because at some point in the next few weeks...
00:08Richard, Richard, PR...
00:09Just hang on a second.
00:10No, hang on, Richard.
00:11In the next couple...
00:11You said it's a PR nightmare.
00:13I'm not concerned about PR.
00:14I'm concerned about prisoner safety and the safety of the general public.
00:17If you let me pose the question, then perhaps you should be
00:21because in the next few weeks or months, we're going to begin to see these early releases
00:24and we're going to see some very unpleasant men being put out on the pavement
00:28to go about their business.
00:29We're going to see the release, as things stand, of the killers of PC Harper.
00:33We're going to see that on camera.
00:35The public are going to see that.
00:36Now, when I refer to PR, what I mean is you're going to get a PR backlash
00:40like you will not recognise when it actually starts to happen,
00:44when it stops being a prospect, which there's still time to reverse,
00:47when it actually happens, there's going to be a massive, overwhelming backlash against it.
00:52That's what I mean.
00:53Richard, the government is not making decisions on prisoners and prisoner release based on PR.
01:00I mean, this isn't about public relations.
01:02This is about making the right decisions for justice, for victims,
01:06for the safety of the general public.
01:08I mean, this is a good question.
01:09I'm going to see you next week.
01:10I'm going to see you next week.
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