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SWG3 Studio Director Gaz Mac on bringing Glasgow communities together with graffiti
National World - LocalTV
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15/11/2023
SWG3 in Glasgow hosts spaces for street artists to indulge their passions while also offering funded programmes in order to bring art and colour to the city.
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Do you have a favourite piece of street art in Glasgow?
00:02
No.
00:03
No?
00:04
That'd be too biased.
00:06
I started graffiti like 1983, '84.
00:10
Somebody called me Gaz Mac, one of my mates, back in '84.
00:14
It was kind of the only guy in the village that was doing graffiti at that time.
00:17
It was one of these things that grew and grew and grew, you know.
00:20
It sort of spiralled from there, really.
00:24
And I met Andrew Fleming Brown, aka Muttley, here back in 2003, 2004.
00:32
And it was just this mad young lad that wanted to build artist studios and build a venue.
00:39
I got involved with this place.
00:41
The very first event we done at SWGC was a graffiti event.
00:44
It was a graffiti jam, as you call it.
00:46
If you had bought a studio, this has just opened.
00:48
It's been a game changer for us.
00:51
We've actually accomplished and achieved a lot of funding off the back of this.
00:54
Funding for it, it's a fully funded programme.
00:56
We've got Yarburt's Grid on the go.
00:59
That's Glasgow Riverside Innovation District.
01:01
We're doing a lot of work with that.
01:02
That's identifying place-making ideas for communities and involving those communities
01:09
to make these walls, these spaces, theirs as opposed to ours,
01:14
as opposed to Yarburt's or the graffiti writers'.
01:16
We were actually asked to identify 20 sites.
01:21
We ended up achieving something like 45 sites between Govan, Partick, York Hill.
01:28
And that's growing again.
01:30
We have a writers' room here.
01:32
We've got a paint store here.
01:34
The writers' room is for graffiti writers.
01:37
And they can drop in whenever they like.
01:39
They buy their paint on their membership.
01:42
As opposed to it being just a paint shop.
01:45
We try to engage with the writers a bit more.
01:48
There's a kind of educational side to that.
01:51
It's a safe space, especially for women.
01:54
There's been a lot of that going on in the background.
01:56
Why women are not doing graffiti or so much street art out on the streets.
01:59
It's just because it's not safe.
02:01
We're looking at involving way more women into the festival next year.
02:05
I think we're a catalyst at that.
02:07
As opposed to an all-women festival or an all-women gallery.
02:11
That doesn't sit right with anybody.
02:13
I don't think that's doing anybody any good.
02:15
Whereas bringing them in and mixing it as much as possible.
02:19
People with disabilities.
02:22
Actually, maybe even the blind.
02:27
Getting artists to actually describe their work.
02:29
There's so many different things we want to put in addition to this.
02:34
So is it for everybody.
02:36
I think we've always had that menschie in Glasgow.
02:40
Even back to mosaics, etc.
02:43
Old industrial, working class murals in Glasgow.
02:48
That's always been there.
02:51
I think this is just a new way of doing it.
02:53
I think the whole street art thing, the world over, is like a new renaissance.
02:57
And the people's approach to it as well.
03:02
As soon as it goes up in a neighbourhood, it's theirs.
03:06
It's not the artists that have done it.
03:08
And there's that ownership from those communities.
03:11
I think that's a success.
03:14
And places like Glasgow that could do with brightening up anyway.
03:19
Aberdeen, New York, Edinburgh, down at Leith, etc.
03:23
All these places are really starting to build up.
03:26
Now the Ayrshire coast, you can see it at Dross and Solcoats, etc.
03:32
They're popping up everywhere.
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