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  • 11/12/2023
New Yorker Victoria Lee and other Chinese Americans in New York's Chinatown share their experiences of racial discrimination, which continues to happen even after Covid-19 has subsided.

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00:00 At the peak of the COVID pandemic, over half of the thousands of Chinese restaurants across
00:06 America shut down over fear of the virus and xenophobia.
00:11 Here in Manhattan, according to one study, from 2019 to 2021, Chinatown sustained a 57%
00:19 drop in visits to stores and restaurants.
00:21 It lost 26% of its jobs compared to 14% citywide.
00:26 But today the businesses have bounced back.
00:29 I think that people have just been eager to get some sense of normalcy after what has
00:34 happened over the past couple of two, three years now.
00:39 Xenophobia has somewhat abated, but it has certainly not gone away.
00:43 So last month I was just randomly spit on.
00:45 I was really taken aback.
00:47 I was in Midtown.
00:48 I was walking to the doctor's office and I was trying to figure out which building it
00:54 was in because I'd never, I hadn't seen this doctor before.
00:58 And right as I was, a doorman said, "Oh, it's the next building over."
01:05 I walked over and I just felt spit like all in the back of my neck.
01:10 And I turned around and what to me was worse than being spit on was the most hateful look
01:17 I got from this man.
01:18 He was on a bike just staring at me.
01:23 Nothing was said.
01:24 Nothing was exchanged.
01:25 It was so, so jarring.
01:27 Sunday dinners at her late grandmother's apartment in Chinatown helped Vic Lee, a daughter of
01:33 immigrants from Hong Kong, discover her identity as a Chinese woman.
01:38 She has served as a district leader representing Chinatown and in 2020 co-founded Welcome to
01:43 Chinatown, a hub for small business owners, entrepreneurs, and the needs of the community.
01:49 At least among those that I've been interacting with, primarily second, third gen Asian Americans,
01:56 thinking a lot more about how it does feel like these events are cyclical and what can
02:03 be done to really change that tide.
02:07 To be clear, prejudice against Chinese Americans does predate the pandemic.
02:11 In fact, it has a long history.
02:13 I would say I think it's being less reported on because it's not the hot topic of choice
02:18 anymore.
02:19 I think it still happens, maybe a little bit less, but I mean, it's still definitely still
02:24 happening I would say.
02:25 I've experienced anti-hate and hate even before the pandemic.
02:29 Growing up in New York City, you're going to meet all types of people.
02:31 I went to high school in the Bronx, so people definitely saying things at me on the train
02:35 or even down here.
02:37 Nothing happened to me personally during the pandemic, but I mean, I witnessed a lot of
02:41 it firsthand just being in the community in Chinatown.
02:44 I mean, I think it's whether it's East Asian, whether it's currently it's Muslim or Jewish
02:51 or black, obviously continuously, I think it'll always spike when there's kind of political
02:59 gain involved.
03:00 So yeah, whether it's pressure trying to write a narrative about China or not, whether it's
03:08 just convenient to push an immigration narrative, I'm sure it'll come up again.
03:13 So I think what's at least for me, what's been nice in a way following the pandemic
03:17 and all the conversations around Black Lives Matter and the Asian conversations is I think
03:21 people are more aware of why that's the case, sort of what the background of that is, what
03:27 anti-Asian, in this case, specifically anti-Asian sentiment is used for.
03:33 And hopefully we're better equipped to respond to it.
03:36 Noreena Lee is New York born and picking up her four-year-old daughter from afternoon
03:41 Mandarin language classes.
03:43 Her parents own the GoToKK discount store.
03:46 She has also experienced racism, but says the community has rallied around.
03:51 After COVID, there were a lot of concern with safety.
03:57 So I know that there were organizations that taught self-defense.
04:01 There were those that were willing to walk elders and those that didn't feel safe from
04:07 the train station to their home.
04:09 So there is that support.
04:11 Also I feel like within at least the local businesses here, we always try to look out
04:15 for each other just because going through such unique experiences together sort of brings
04:21 us closer.
04:22 You also have organizations such as Welcome to Chinatown and Send Chinatown Love that
04:27 really help bring the community together and amplifies the stories that we each bring into
04:33 this neighborhood.
04:37 Nirmal Ghosh, The Straits Times, in Chinatown, Manhattan.
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