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Starting the Cummins R2.8 in the crate
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11/9/2023
We add fuel 12-volts and start this engine in the crate well before it found a home in the 2018 UA Derange Rover.
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00:00
Hey.
00:04
Hello everybody.
00:05
My name is Vern Simons.
00:07
I am the tech editor for Peterson's 4-Wheel and Off-Road magazine.
00:11
This is my amigo, Trent McGugelheimer.
00:14
Hi guys.
00:15
Or Trent McGee.
00:18
We have set up the R2.8, which just came out of a crate.
00:25
And it's hooked to a battery.
00:26
There's some fuel over here, fuel filter, got some rudimentary wiring hooked up.
00:33
And according to our contacts at Cummins, we can just start it right here.
00:40
So it's basically just fresh out of the crate, like literally still sitting on the pallet.
00:44
You can see the wood.
00:45
I'm going to turn this around and kind of show you what's going on, and then we're going
00:48
to fire it up.
00:49
Run it for very long.
00:52
Hi Robert Keller.
00:53
Of course.
00:54
Hi Robert.
00:55
We miss you, buddy.
00:56
See, there's the crate, or the base of the crate.
00:57
It's just bolted in right there.
00:58
We've got a battery here.
00:59
Note that we have both sides of the battery cables hooked to the negative side for kind
01:00
of a redundant ground.
01:01
Yeah, and then this is actually the Derange Rover's old power cable running up to the
01:02
starter.
01:03
And then we've got this trigger starter here.
01:04
And there's another wire somewhere in here that will turn the computer on.
01:05
And then we've got the battery.
01:06
And then we've got the battery.
01:07
And then we've got the battery.
01:08
And then we've got the battery.
01:09
And then we've got the battery.
01:10
And then we've got the battery.
01:11
And then we've got the battery.
01:12
And then we've got the battery.
01:13
And then we've got the battery.
01:14
And then we've got the battery.
01:15
And then we've got the battery.
01:36
And then we've got the battery.
01:37
And then we've got the battery.
01:38
And then we've got the battery.
01:39
And then we've got the battery.
01:40
And then we've got the battery.
01:41
And then we've got the battery.
01:42
And then we've got the battery.
01:43
And then we've got the battery.
01:44
And then we've got the battery.
01:45
And then we've got the battery.
01:46
And then we've got the battery.
01:47
And then we've got the battery.
01:48
And then we've got the battery.
01:49
And then we've got the battery.
01:50
And then we've got the battery.
01:51
And then we've got the battery.
01:52
And then we've got the battery.
01:53
And then we've got the battery.
01:54
And then we've got the battery.
01:55
And then we've got the battery.
01:56
And then we've got the battery.
01:57
And then we've got the battery.
01:58
So you'll hear it.
02:05
So that's the everything turning on.
02:10
And then down here, I'm going to start this.
02:13
This is the, this should supply the GoJuice.
02:18
And if everything is right, this will start and run for a little while.
02:23
We don't want to run it very long because it doesn't have any coolant.
02:26
It does have motor oil in it.
02:29
Very important.
02:30
Any final thoughts, Trent?
02:31
It should fire.
02:32
Let's see what happens.
02:33
Hopefully it won't fall over.
02:34
Yeah, it might start running around the shop, which would not be so good.
02:40
Let's see what happens.
02:41
It runs.
02:42
It's working.
02:43
I feel like a jump right off the crate.
03:02
But it runs.
03:03
We did it.
03:04
Woohoo!
03:05
Cool.
03:06
So this will probably go ahead and kill it so you don't hurt it.
03:12
That's sad.
03:13
No water in there.
03:14
Well, that was fairly painless.
03:15
I don't know what's beeping.
03:16
It's just shutting down.
03:17
Okay.
03:18
Yeah, it worked.
03:19
What do you know?
03:20
That's cool.
03:21
Yeah.
03:22
It gives you an idea of how simple it is.
03:23
We literally spent 10 minutes, we spent more time trying to find a good battery.
03:34
Yes, that's true.
03:39
I have lots of bad batteries at my shop here, apparently.
03:42
Come over here, Trent, where we're not in the light.
03:46
So yeah, it took us a little while to find the right battery.
03:49
I'm going to show you a few more things around the shop that have kind of trickled in for
03:53
the project and show you a few things that I've done to it in the past couple weeks,
04:00
basically.
04:01
I've been traveling a bit since Moab, but I've gotten a few things done.
04:04
So let's have a look.
04:05
Grab it out of the way.
04:08
All right, so there's the R2.8.
04:11
It runs.
04:12
That is the battery out of Dino the Dinosaur.
04:14
That's my dog, Hank.
04:15
Hi, Hank.
04:16
He's about a year old.
04:17
There's one of the batteries that didn't work.
04:21
Temporary fuel tank.
04:23
Here's more of the crate that the R2.8 came out of.
04:26
That's a pretty sweet crate.
04:27
Yeah, it's really nice.
04:28
I mean, it's almost furniture grade.
04:31
It'll probably turn into furniture at my house.
04:34
So here is a, that is an NV3550 out of what I'm guessing is a 2002 because it says '02
04:41
on it.
04:42
Jeep Cherokee or Wrangler TJ.
04:48
That is a Magnum box, so 2.72 to 1.
04:54
Hooked to a Ford 205.
04:56
Both of those are from Offroad Design.
05:00
It's got all of the best stuff in there.
05:02
Check out that new output shaft seal housing on there.
05:10
It's going to have big 32 spline inputs, or outputs on both sides.
05:15
There's a, that is going to be a right hand drive JK steering box from Redneck Ram or
05:24
West Texas Offroad.
05:26
I think I need this to basically clear this big old oil pump, or I'm sorry, oil cooler
05:32
that's on the side of the R2.8, which is going to be very close to what are some pretty narrow
05:38
frame rails in here.
05:40
What else have we got?
05:44
Back over here are a stack of Falcon tires that are going to go on the thing.
05:50
38 inch by 17.
05:54
Here are adapter bits from Axis Industries.
05:58
So that's a different flywheel there for the starter or starter ring.
06:02
And then a Jeep 4 liter flywheel bolt on to that using this adapter down here.
06:10
There's a bunch of hardware.
06:12
And then that's the ring that makes the tranny and engine meet up.
06:20
In here is a bunch of stuff from Wilwood, I'm sorry Wilwood, Centerforce Clutch.
06:29
So there's going to be a clutch disc.
06:31
Huh?
06:32
Not Centerforce.
06:33
Wil, Wil at Centerforce.
06:35
He said there were some candies in here on Facebook, but I don't see any.
06:40
I'm upset.
06:41
He apparently sent some to some lady named, I can't think of her name.
06:50
She'll come to me.
06:51
Anyways, I don't know what else is going on.
06:53
Here's a...
06:54
Talk about the cage.
06:55
Yeah, I started the roll cage, so that's inch and three quarter DOM.
06:58
This goes down to where it will be frenched into the frame.
07:01
I'm going to drop the whole cage down so I can weld the top of it.
07:05
But I've got eight points that go down to the body and will be tied into the frame.
07:11
I kind of mangled the roof, getting the sunroof out, which is a gigantic heavy thing.
07:16
And I'm going to put something cool in there to replace that.
07:22
But I don't want to talk about it yet.
07:25
And then here's more cage.
07:27
So a B pillar that will go down and pierce through the floor.
07:31
There's the A pillar over there.
07:33
It's a bit of a mess in here, but it goes down to the floor where it will pierce.
07:38
Pulled out all the dash and all the wiring.
07:41
Going to use the Range Rover steering wheel.
07:45
The parking brake is awesome, but I don't know that I'm going to be able to use it.
07:51
And I don't know.
07:53
That's about all I can think of.
07:55
Somewhere around here I do have some clutch parts, like a pedal from Wilwood.
08:00
Oh, it's over there on the table.
08:04
I'm a bit of a messer.
08:07
Anyways, one of the really cool things about the R2.8 is we can disassemble all this wiring
08:14
and unconnect the fuel and basically put that crate right back together and it will take
08:18
about five minutes.
08:20
And with it wrapped up in that bag and inside the crate, I don't have to worry about grinding
08:28
and welding on various parts of the axles.
08:33
So Robert just asked if I'm going to do coil overs or just springs.
08:39
One of the cooler parts of the Range Rover is the suspension and I'm going to use a lot
08:43
of the factory suspension.
08:46
Skyjacker is coming back as our suspension sponsor for Ultimate Adventure.
08:53
So kind of like an early Bronco or a '78 full-size Bronco, it has these radius arms that run
09:01
down the axle.
09:04
And then this coil.
09:05
It's actually a lot like an early Bronco suspension on the front.
09:08
So I'm going to reuse a lot of that.
09:10
I figured out some coils actually from an early Bronco that are built by Skyjacker that
09:18
should fit in here.
09:20
Still just have to get the Dana Spicer Ultimate Dana 60 axles under here.
09:26
The front is outside.
09:27
I was just cleaning some brackets off of it.
09:29
I'm still waiting on the rear.
09:32
So radius arms in the front is what it's going to have.
09:35
I'm probably going to change some things like the way the shocks mount.
09:40
And then out back it actually has a three link.
09:43
So it has two lower control arms and then an upper wishbone with some sort of a weird
09:50
... it's called like a load handling shock.
09:54
I'm probably going to take the load handling shock thing off.
09:56
I think it's leaking.
09:58
But I'm going to reuse that upper wishbone.
10:00
That's my plan right now.
10:02
I'll connect it to a bridge on the Ultimate Dana 60 rear axle.
10:11
So yeah, that's kind of where we're at.
10:13
I've probably taken enough of your time and enough of Trent's time.
10:17
Here's a bunch of wiring.
10:18
If you know anybody who has a Range Rover that needs wiring or interior parts and they're
10:23
anywhere near Phoenix, don't.
10:25
It's going into the dump.
10:27
Anywho, there she is.
10:29
Yeah, I'm going to keep it.
10:31
Robert asked if it's going to be stockage height.
10:33
I'm going to try and keep it real low.
10:35
You guys know that's what I like.
10:37
I like things that are low and stable.
10:39
This thing's going to be low and wide and stable.
10:42
I can cut I think two and a half inches out of the rear wheel opening, which should give
10:49
me plenty for a 38.
10:50
And I think I can cut even more, like three inches out of the front.
10:54
So I'm going to cut that open and keep the lines mostly factory looking.
11:00
See how much time I have in terms of rebuilding the fenders.
11:04
But yeah, I'm stoked about it.
11:06
I think it's going to be fun.
11:09
And good time to end.
11:11
There's the air compressor.
11:12
We'll see you guys.
11:13
Bye bye.
11:15
(audience laughing)
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