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Would you expound on the “Me Plus” concept? It seems to me entirely appropriate that my [still theoretical] wife will not like “me” in a pure world-of-forms sense, but only for that which I am and do for her.
In other words, what is the essence of “Me” but a sum of the parts—some of which serve the children/wife/community/self/God, some of which do not.
A ridiculous example, what could it possibly mean to love a girlfriend if she’s chosen obesity, cruelty, verbal abuse; to sterilize herself from ever procreating; and to obstruct everything good about me? Of course this would never happen, but how can one separate loving “her” from all that which she is choosing?
The same, how can she love “‘me” irrespective of what I seem am and do?
Isn’t the threat of losing the other’s affections a great incentive to stay good oneself?
My position: I am a man (early 20’s) excited to be “me plus” because without the plus, there is no “‘me” to be valued. What am I missing?
long time subscriber here, I have trouble not getting down with things out of my control.
My truck i just paid off got totalled by some uninsured guy and the payout was quite unfair (70% value of $21,000 vehicle) from my insurance company. I had full coverage.
This was out of my hands but I still got depressed for a couple months because I felt cheated by the situation.
Any advice from you/philosophy on how to prevent this from happening?
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Would you expound on the “Me Plus” concept? It seems to me entirely appropriate that my [still theoretical] wife will not like “me” in a pure world-of-forms sense, but only for that which I am and do for her.
In other words, what is the essence of “Me” but a sum of the parts—some of which serve the children/wife/community/self/God, some of which do not.
A ridiculous example, what could it possibly mean to love a girlfriend if she’s chosen obesity, cruelty, verbal abuse; to sterilize herself from ever procreating; and to obstruct everything good about me? Of course this would never happen, but how can one separate loving “her” from all that which she is choosing?
The same, how can she love “‘me” irrespective of what I seem am and do?
Isn’t the threat of losing the other’s affections a great incentive to stay good oneself?
My position: I am a man (early 20’s) excited to be “me plus” because without the plus, there is no “‘me” to be valued. What am I missing?
long time subscriber here, I have trouble not getting down with things out of my control.
My truck i just paid off got totalled by some uninsured guy and the payout was quite unfair (70% value of $21,000 vehicle) from my insurance company. I had full coverage.
This was out of my hands but I still got depressed for a couple months because I felt cheated by the situation.
Any advice from you/philosophy on how to prevent this from happening?
Thank you for everything you do. My life has been 1000% improved since I started listening to you 10 years ago.
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00:00 already great questions from the noble crew at freedomain.locals.com. I hope that you
00:05 will join. The conversations are a great place to be. So, would you expand on the me plus
00:10 concept? So I first talked about this in my presentation on the death of Robin Williams,
00:17 and it goes a little something like this. So let's say that you're lonely, you want
00:21 friends, but you feel like you have to do something other than be yourself to get your
00:25 friends. So you have to be compulsively jokey, you have to be paying for everyone's drinks,
00:32 you have to be the wingman, you have to praise them, you have to make them look better, you
00:36 have to, whatever it is, something that's more than just yourself, you have to also
00:41 kind of manipulate them by providing value other than who you are. So you plus, right?
00:47 I mean, the foundational example of this is if you want a woman to sleep with you, but
00:55 you have to pay her, then it has to be you plus money to get her to sleep with you. So
01:02 that's the me plus concept. And the listener goes on to say, "It seems to me entirely appropriate
01:07 that my still theoretical wife would not like me in a pure world of form sense, but only
01:13 for that which I am and do for her. In other words, what is the essence of me but the sum
01:20 of the parts, some of which serve the children, wife, community, self, God, some of which
01:23 do not? A ridiculous example, what could it possibly mean to love a girlfriend if she's
01:30 chosen obesity, cruelty, verbal abuse, to sterilize herself from ever procreating, and
01:36 to obstruct everything good about me? Of course, this would never happen, and how can one separate
01:42 loving her from all that which she is choosing? The same, how can she love "me" irrespective
01:50 of what I seem, am, and do? Isn't the threat of losing the other's affection a great incentive
01:57 to stay good oneself? My position, I'm a man in my early 20s, excited to be me plus, because
02:02 without the plus there is no me to be valued. What am I missing?" It's a great question.
02:08 It's a great question, and me plus does stray dangerously close to the mental territory
02:12 of "I don't need to provide value to people, they should just love me for who I am, you
02:16 know, regardless of what I do and what value I provide," and so on. Right, so, I'm going
02:21 to blow your mind. And I say this with all the dim humility of those long ago days when
02:28 I was in my early 20s and believed things that were false or had been told things that
02:32 were false and accepted them. Right, so, you, qua you, are never going to be loved. I, qua
02:41 me, like just because of me, am never going to be loved. Identity is not love. So, you
02:46 have to ask yourself, "What is love for? Why do we have love? Why do we have, why have
02:50 we evolved the capacity to love?" Well, we have evolved the capacity to love because
02:58 of pair bonding and because of virtue. So, love is a biochem, in sort of the Bermelian
03:07 sense, it's a biochemical bond that creates an environment where children can be best
03:13 raised. Right, so, when you fall in love and you get married and you have sex, you get
03:21 all of this dopamine and oxytocin and all these wonderful chemicals that bond you with
03:26 your spouse. And that bonding means that being with your spouse, chatting with your spouse,
03:35 sex with your spouse, all of that sort of stuff is going to be better than some other
03:40 person. So, it welds you together. Now, why do we weld things together? So that they won't
03:48 break apart and damage or break people or things. Right, so we weld the girders of a
03:53 bridge together so that the bridge doesn't fall apart and kill people. So, love at the,
04:01 and we see this with other creatures as well, swans and geese and other sort of lifelong
04:06 pair bonded creatures, not so much rabbits, a little more wolves of course, R versus K.
04:11 We've talked about this before. So, why do we have this pair bonding? Because it's best
04:18 for the children. Or, to put it another way, those people who had sex and produced children
04:24 without pair bonding, those children did not survive nearly as well. And again, I'm talking
04:30 a bit more colder climates where you have to plan for winter and all that kind of stuff.
04:35 Pair bonding doesn't so much exist in sort of the history of Tahiti or things like that.
04:40 At least according to Marlon Brando's biography, which is really my anthropological go-to book,
04:45 those who don't know. Anyway, so we have evolved pair bonding for the sake of children. So,
04:55 if you say, "I want to be loved just for me," you're saying, "I want to hijack something
05:00 that is there for the children and use it solely for my own benefit." And I'm not saying
05:03 this is you, you understand, I'm just talking about how it plays out that way. You say,
05:11 "I am going to hijack that which is designed for the best raising of children and use it
05:20 to make just me happy." So, men often complain that women love them for their resources.
05:26 Well, what do you think love was developed for? Love wasn't developed to make you happy.
05:32 I mean, evolution doesn't care about your happiness. It cares about survival, which
05:38 is why when you're threatened you tend to get angry, which is not the same as being
05:42 happy, because being angry will help you survive if you're threatened, fight or flight, right?
05:47 So love is not about your happiness, but about that which is best for the children. And in
05:52 general, if we align ourselves with how things evolved, we'll probably end up doing better
05:58 as a whole. Align yourself with, sort of listen to the people who say, "We didn't evolve to
06:03 eat this, that or the other." So if you align yourself with evolution, you're probably going
06:07 to do better than going in mass opposition to it, which is kind of like the socialist
06:13 communist thing, going in opposition to evolution if people respond to incentives. So, love
06:19 was not evolved for you to feel good. It was not evolved for me to feel good. It didn't
06:24 evolve for us to feel needed or treasured or valuable or special or anything like that.
06:30 Pair bonding love evolved to cement people together so that their children would have
06:39 the greatest chance of survival. So that's what love is for. And I suppose you could
06:47 use your muscles to generate electricity in some manner, but that's not what they have
06:52 developed for. They have developed to move you around, to gain resources, avoid predators
06:57 and have sex or whatever, you know, eat food. So men say, "Oh, women only love us for our
07:06 resources." Well, that's true, because that's what love evolved for. And these same men,
07:15 of course, who say, "Women only love us for our resources," are often addicted to female
07:20 beauty. And then women, of course, can say with equal veracity, "Well, men only love
07:26 us for our beauty, our physical beauty. Men only love us for sex." And that's the great
07:34 fear, right? "Will you still love me tomorrow?" is the woman's great fear, like after you
07:37 have sex. "Will you still have any affection?" or are you basically faking it to get sex?
07:43 And for the men, of course, it's, "What happens if I lose my money, if I lose my status? Will
07:47 you still love me?" And all of that is sort of this modern cult of love wrestling, of
07:56 love hijacking, of love hijacking, that love isn't there to pair bond you for the best
08:00 raising of children and to have comfort and succor in your old age so that you're around
08:05 for longer in order to care for your grandchildren. No, no. Love is there to make me happy, which
08:13 is about as – it makes about as much sense as saying, "The spleen evolved to make me
08:18 happy. My little toe evolved to make me happy." I don't know what the spleen does, apparently
08:23 it's disposable, but your little toe evolved, of course, to help you with balance. It doesn't
08:29 care about your happiness, only cares about your balance, so to speak. So if you say,
08:34 "I want to be loved for me," you're hijacking love because the purpose of love is to create
08:40 a stable pair bond for the better raising of children. Now, I also mentioned virtue
08:45 earlier, so I've said love is our involuntary response to virtue, if we're virtuous. It
08:50 is virtuous to raise children well. It is virtuous to have a stable pair bond in order
08:56 to raise children well. We have developed this capacity for universals, and creating
09:05 arbitrary exceptions or oppositions to these universals creates stress, strain, unhappiness,
09:11 misery, and also gives you the pleasure of conformity when you conform to other people
09:14 who are aggressively pushing exceptions or opposition to general principles like, "Don't
09:19 use violence, oh, but you can hit your kids," and blah blah blah, right? So, love, what
09:27 are you loved for? Well, just coincidentally, certainly in the modern world, that which
09:35 promotes the best raising of children also coincides with virtue. So what does your wife
09:43 love in you? She loves your virtue, and your virtue means that you're a good father, you're
09:49 a good partner, you're a good provider. Does she love just the provision of value? No,
09:58 she does not just love the provision of value. I mean, I suppose some women, particularly
10:03 single moms, kind of faux pair bond with the government, but nobody would say that they
10:08 love the state. They say that they're addicted to it or whatever, right? So what does she
10:14 love in you? That which serves the family, that which serves pair bonding, that which
10:19 serves the best interests of the children. And virtue happens to serve the best interests
10:25 of the children. Non-aggression principle, consistency, integrity, honesty, compassion,
10:33 affection, protection, provision, these serve the children, they serve the family, and so
10:40 she's going to love you for your virtue. Now, of course, you can be virtuous without a family,
10:43 the principles still apply, I get all of that. But, I mean, this is the old, like, you can
10:47 drive a bicycle on a road, but the road wasn't built for the bikes. So, Me Too is when you
10:56 try to put on a show or fake something in order to hijack the love intended for the
11:04 stability of the family in the pursuit of virtue for your own personal sense of value
11:09 and feeling needed. So, you pursue virtue, and through the pursuit of virtue, you act
11:17 in a manner that is good for your family, good for your wife, good for your children,
11:23 and actually even good for your parents, whether they're good or not. So, yeah, there is no
11:30 platonic "you" that can be loved. So yes, you do need to be in service of virtue, you
11:35 do need to be in service of your family, because that's what love is for. Love is to give you
11:43 the emotional feedback that makes you want to care for your family. And the best way
11:52 to care for your family is, you know, I talked about this in a show recently, the difference
11:58 between a virtue and a wisdom. A virtue is knowing what to do, and wisdom is knowing
12:04 when to do it. So yeah, you take care of your family, that's what love is for. If you put
12:11 on a show in an attempt to divert the natural flow or the rivers of love to gratify your
12:19 own ego, it's not going to work, and that's usually the MeToo+ thing.
12:24 All right, long-time subscriber here, I have trouble not getting down with things out of
12:29 my control. My truck I just paid off got totaled by some uninsured guy and the payout was quite
12:35 unfair. A 70% value of a $21,000 vehicle. For my insurance company, I had full coverage.
12:41 This was out of my hands, but I still got depressed for a couple of months because I
12:44 felt cheated by the situation. Any advice for you or philosophy on how to prevent this
12:48 from happening? Thank you for everything you do. My life has been 1,000% improved since
12:54 I started listening to you 10 years ago. Well, I'm sorry to hear about your truck. Ladies,
12:59 you don't understand. A man's car is essential to his identity and liberty and freedom and
13:07 woo-ability and all of that. So picking up a woman in a nice car for a date or whatever
13:12 is a gift from the gods.
13:15 All right, so yeah, I'm sorry to hear about this, obviously, first and foremost. So this
13:20 is the question of luck. I have a sort of very complicated relationship to luck, and
13:23 I don't want to make this about me, but I can sort of share you my thoughts because
13:25 I think that they're probably quite common. Am I lucky or am I unlucky? I tend to pace
13:34 with luck in the moment and feel both unlucky or unlucky depending on whether good or bad
13:38 things happen. So I mean, let's take a sort of silly example. I play, actually just played
13:43 this with some friends and their kids yesterday, played Catan. It's a board game. And some
13:49 of it's skill, some of it's trading, and some of it's luck. It's not like chess where there's
13:53 no luck, there's no dice rolls. But Catan, if you, you know, when you go through a phase
14:00 in any board game where the rolls are going against you. So in Catan, you put your pieces
14:05 on hexagonal markers that when you roll dice, you put it on a six and you roll a six, you
14:13 get the resources associated with the six. It could be a wood or a brick or a wheat or
14:18 a sheep or ore and so on. You build things and you expand and all of that. And you try
14:22 to get a certain number of points and it's a very good game. Anyway, so when you, again,
14:28 I know this sounds kind of silly, but when you play the game, you set up your pieces
14:34 based upon what dice you think you're going to get rolled the most. Now, of course, two
14:38 and twelve are rare, six and eight are common, and so on. Now, if you build based on expecting
14:46 a bunch of sixes, and this is actually what happened yesterday, I built on the game expecting
14:50 a bunch of sixes, which is a perfectly reasonable thing to expect, but there were no sixes rolled
14:58 for the first third of the game. So I had almost no cards, nothing to do, nothing to...
15:03 Now, I don't get too bad. Of course, when I was younger, I was much more volatile this
15:07 kind of way, but it's just kind of annoying. And it's kind of annoying because it's boring.
15:12 I don't really particularly care about winning or losing, but it's just kind of boring. Like
15:16 if you're not getting any cards, you can't do any trades, and you just kind of sit there.
15:21 It's like this old comedy show from many years ago, a comedian who was talking about life
15:25 in the backseat, and because I never had a car growing up, I lived in the backseat. And
15:30 he said, "Well, you can't have fun in the backseat. All you can do is watch profiles
15:33 of people having fun in the front," because they're all looking at each other and laughing
15:36 as they're playing with the music, and you're always leaning forward saying, "What? What?"
15:41 And or you can try and make contact with people trapped in the backseats of other cars and
15:46 all that kind of stuff. So it's just kind of boring because you're not actually having
15:51 a conversation, which is engaging. You're not actually able to participate in the game
15:56 much because you don't have any cards. So it's just kind of dull. And so I don't get
16:02 particularly annoyed, but it's mildly irritating, I guess you could say, because you're trying
16:06 to have fun, and because of the sort of random dice rolls, you end up not having fun. I still
16:11 remember, and I probably think about this a couple of times a year, and this is, I understand,
16:15 pathetic and ridiculous, but I'll just be honest about my experience. I had a Dungeons
16:21 and Dragons character when I was, I don't know, 13 or so, called Sereg, and Sereg was
16:27 a dwarf fighter. Now back then he had eight hit points, and we had a very toilet-trained,
16:34 gunpoint, anal-retentive, half-German dungeon master who's like, "This is the dice. This
16:43 is what we have got." It was just, sort of paraphrasing, he actually didn't have an accent
16:48 at all. But to help you understand, he ended up becoming an electrical engineer. It tells
16:55 you how kind of fussy he was about numbers. He was a little bit autistic in the way of
17:02 like, to me, when I was dungeon mastering, I would really try and keep the story and
17:06 as much fun going as possible. You know, if the dice, oh, I guess I could reveal it now,
17:11 40 years later, but if the dice went a particular way and a character would have died early
17:16 in the adventure, I wouldn't have them die. I'd get down to like, one hit point, or make
17:21 it exciting or whatever it is, right? Just try and keep the story going and keep people
17:25 engaged and interested. People really did like me as a dungeon master. Now, of course,
17:29 if somebody did something really ridiculous or stupid, then let them die and all of that.
17:34 But for the most part, I would try and play the edge to keep the story going and keep
17:38 people sort of excited and all that. So, it was hard to go up levels, right? Like, when
17:45 we played later, it's like, "Eh, you can go up a level," right? But he would actually
17:50 keep track of each monster's hit points. Sorry, each monster's experience points. Every monster
17:54 you kill gets you a certain amount of experience. When you pass a certain amount of experience
17:57 points, you go up a level and so on. And when my dwarven character went up a level, you
18:05 get to roll an eight-sided dice to see how many extra hit points you get. And of course,
18:09 the more hit points you get, the safer your character is, the better you can fight and
18:13 so on. And I think, I can't remember if it was a one or a three or a three and a one
18:17 because I went to third level and I could have gotten up to, you know, 24 hit points
18:22 if you roll eight twice. You start with eight maximum, you get 16 to 24. I rolled a one
18:28 for my second level and I rolled a three for my third level. So, I went from eight to 12
18:34 hit points and because we had this kind of real by-the-numbers, like a tax accountant
18:41 by-the-numbers dungeon master, I ended up covering our party's retreat from a bunch
18:46 of bugbears and got killed. And this was long before you could get resurrections or anything
18:50 like that. We weren't powerful enough. And of course, if I'd had a few more hit points,
18:54 I'm sure I would have survived at least to... So, anyway, I died. And that's all right.
19:00 Later I had a character called Argoth who was a paladin who did so well, eventually
19:03 he ended up becoming a demigod. So, the first round guy was not great. Second round guy
19:09 was fantastic. So, I mean, this dungeon master, we invited someone to play and he decided
19:18 to be a thief and he decided to wear chain mail. And the dungeon master didn't say anything,
19:27 right? And then the thief tried to use his sneak ability to sneak up on some creature
19:32 and the dungeon master said, "Oh, your sneak ability doesn't work because you're wearing
19:35 chain mail and basically you rolled some dice and he died. And he had nothing to do for
19:40 the rest of the night. I remember he said he did a little bit of biking on a bike machine
19:43 that was in the guy's basement and that was about it. And he listened to us play and he
19:46 never came back. And even at the time I was like, "Dude, come on." The game is supposed
19:54 to be somewhat like it's a role-playing game. Now, if you're trying to sneak up, like imagine
20:01 you're trying to sneak up on someone and you're wearing a bunch of spoons, wouldn't you notice
20:05 the spoons making all this noise and then not try and sneak up on them? And he's like,
20:08 "Hey, those are the rules." And, you know, we didn't let him be dungeon master much after
20:12 that because it was just a bad idea overall. So, I just remember feeling I had bad luck.
20:20 Now, these are random dice rolls from many decades ago. I'm not going to say it sort
20:28 of sat with me or like I felt cursed, you know, like my daughter has this great word,
20:34 "Oh, this character is so cursed." She said that about the guy. I guess he's this kind
20:39 of famous hollow white actor. He played the--in the show, Psych, he played the coroner. And
20:49 he said, "Oh, this character is so cursed." It's just like that's actually a very funny
20:53 phrase. I love the slang that she comes up with or absorbs from her peer group. So, do
20:59 you feel cursed or do you feel blessed? Do you feel lucky or do you feel unlucky? You
21:03 know, my wife when we're playing Catan, if she's holding a bunch--if you're holding a
21:06 bunch of cards and you roll a seven, then you have to give up half your cards. Like
21:11 if you're holding eight or more cards, you have to give up half your cards, rounding
21:14 down. And of course, if my wife has a fistful of cards, she'll sort of, "Oh, here comes
21:19 the seven." You know, she's just sort of--I'm like, "Yeah, great attitude." So, with regards
21:25 to good luck and bad luck, it's quite complicated for me. If I have a run of bad luck, and I
21:31 do, right? I think like everyone, your luck clusters and there's a bell curve of middle
21:35 luck, good luck, and bad luck in your life. And every now and then, your bad luck is going
21:39 to cluster. Every now and then, your good luck is going to cluster. And every now and
21:44 then, like in a game like Catan or Monopoly or whatever, right? You will win through the
21:49 virtue of your own because the dice rolls just happen to go all your way. I don't find
21:54 that particularly interesting either. Like if you're playing with a couple of other people
21:59 and the dice rolls just happen to go your way and then you--it's kind of boring, right?
22:04 Because it's not like any particular skill, the dice rolls. And that's why my daughter
22:09 is less keen on Catan because she just says there's too much chance involved. And she
22:13 prefers a game like Among Us or other things that she will play where there's less chance.
22:20 Less chance. It's more skill. It's more like chess, less like--there's no dice rolls. And
22:27 so if the dice rolls are going your way, I guess you feel kind of lucky, but it's not
22:31 particularly fun because the other people aren't particularly enjoying the game and
22:34 you're not winning through any skill of your own. It's like the game War, you know, where
22:38 you just--it's not really a game, right? You just flip cards and the higher card wins.
22:44 Not really a game. There's no skill involved whatsoever. So that's a real chance. That's
22:49 a real 100% random, assuming you've got an honest shuffle. So if dice rolls are going
22:56 your way, if life is going your way, if things are going your way, ooh, I'm so lucky. I remember
23:02 Julia Louise Dreyfus was on some hair ad. She's got a thick, thick mane of hair and
23:07 she was on some hair ad. Oh, I'm so lucky because she's got all this thick hair and
23:11 all of that. And there are times where luck clusters and you feel lucky. And that's--and
23:19 if you feel good about being lucky, you will feel bad about being unlucky. So I've sort
23:23 of tried to move more towards the middle and say, well, you know, like donations, right?
23:28 Donations cluster and some days there are good donations and then sometimes there can
23:32 be days with few, if any, donations. And I try not to feel good when there are donations
23:37 and then feel bad when there are no donations because, I mean, other than trying to produce
23:42 as much quality as I can and asking for support at freedomain.com/donate, there's nothing
23:48 I can do. I mean, there's nothing I can do other than produce quality content and ask
23:54 for donations. I can't--and even if I could make people donate, I wouldn't, right? So
23:58 I can't do anything. So if for some reason I happen to get a cluster of donations, that's
24:03 nice. If there's a couple of days with no donations, that's, you know, I try not to
24:08 get too happy if there are donations or too unhappy if there are not donations. And I'm
24:13 fairly okay with that now. Of course, it's been, you know, a long time to get used to
24:17 it. So--and knowing it will often, you know, often it will even out over time. So it's
24:22 not too bad that way. So are you lucky or are you unlucky? I try not to feel lucky or
24:31 unlucky because that's predicting an outcome that is random. Now, fortune favors the bold.
24:39 Fortune, you know, preparation is everything. 99% of success is showing up or something.
24:44 I think that the Woody Allen quote, God help me for quoting that guy. But I try not to
24:49 think too much about luck and I work on the things I can control. So when you have--and
24:57 look, listen, I don't want you to feel alone in this. I've had some great luck in my life.
25:04 I've had some terrible luck in my life. And I won't get into it, but let's just say there's
25:12 been quite a bit of money involved in both situations and it's rough, man. When the downside
25:19 hits and you get sort of bad news, you know, like the contractor comes over and says, "Oh,
25:23 you're going to need X, Y, and Z, and it's going to be this, that, and the other." And
25:26 it's like, "Oh, God." Right? So bad luck, right? It's bad luck. So when you got totaled
25:34 by some uninsured guy, the payout was quite unfair, you felt cheated by the situation.
25:42 Right, right. So let's say that you--well, I assume that you weren't cheated by the insurance
25:50 company because then I'm sure you would have raised a complaint or had an appeal or something
25:54 like that. So let's say that you signed an insurance policy that said you get 70% of
26:00 the value of the vehicle, right? Or maybe they say, "Well, because it wasn't brand new, we're
26:04 going to take 30% off," or whatever it was, right? But then it's, you know, $21,000 to
26:10 replace it, right? So you have to pay a couple of grand to replace the car over and above
26:18 what you lost. Okay. So assuming that you weren't cheated but it was just bad luck.
26:24 Now, are you cheated because, you know, maybe there's a lot of people in your neighborhood
26:28 who aren't, you know, let's say they haven't gone through the full legal immigration process
26:34 and maybe they're uninsured partly because of that or maybe there's people who are uninsured
26:38 don't pay penalties, right? So, of course, you know, a just legal system would be that
26:44 if somebody without insurance totals your truck, that person has to pay for the new
26:49 truck and insurance wouldn't even be involved at all. But, you know, let's say that even
26:55 in the current system that if some uninsured person totals your truck and it's worth $21,000
27:01 and the insurance company pays 70% of that, then the other 30% comes from the guy who
27:08 totaled your truck, right? He has to pay the difference, right? And maybe a little bit
27:11 extra for your sort of time and money. So, yeah, there's a bunch of bad systems that
27:15 are set up and we're all captive and subject and held in a sense hostage by those. So,
27:21 but let's say you were cheated. So let's say you were cheated. And, you know, I hate to
27:26 sort of say the obvious or give people spoilers, but I mean, let's be frank. You are going
27:34 to get cheated over the course of your life and you are going to get cheated more than
27:38 once and some of the sums of being cheated are not going to be small. You know, some
27:44 people you give money to will use that money wisely and pull themselves out of their problems
27:50 and either thank you or pay it back or something like that. Other people you give money to
27:55 will blow it and waste it. And you'd have been better off keeping that money for yourself
28:01 or giving it to someone better. Some people you invest in are going to work hard and diligently
28:06 and produce returns. Some people you invest in are going to take that investment and go
28:11 to St. Bart's. Now, you know, as you age and you grow, you get some wisdom and all of that,
28:17 and hopefully you can figure this stuff out better. But it's going to happen. People are
28:26 going to cheat you. Now, how do you avoid that? Well, you just never get involved with
28:32 anyone in any way and you're going to lose more. So if, let's say, you never invest in
28:37 anyone or anything, then your money is going to be stolen through inflation and it's going
28:41 to end up largely worthless. So you've avoided being cheated by the stock market or by people
28:47 you invest in and you end up being cheated by central banks. And that's a certainty.
28:50 I mean, 90% of investment is an inflation hedge. And so we're all herded into the stock
28:56 market, a soft, foggy fiat gunpoint. So yeah, you cannot invest. Let's say that there even
29:05 wasn't such a thing as inflation, really, and you don't invest in the stock market,
29:11 then you're just going to end up with your savings. Whereas if you invest in the stock
29:13 market, you know, and this is like obviously just pure theory, but if you invest in the
29:19 stock market at sort of 5 or 6%, your money is going to double over time and then double
29:23 again and you're going to end up with a lot more money. Now, cheating is going to take
29:29 some money away from you, but avoiding the risk of cheating is going to cost you even
29:33 more money because then you never invest in anyone or anything. Does that make sense?
29:39 So you have to look at the larger picture. You have to look at the larger picture and
29:44 say, "Okay, well, the way that I could avoid never having my car totaled by somebody who's
29:50 uninsured and then only getting 70% of the value, the way I could avoid that is never
29:54 have a car, take the bus or bike everywhere." Okay, but I assume that that's a big negative
29:59 in your life. So losing, you know, this money, what was it, $6,000, $7,000, I don't know,
30:06 losing this money is just, it's part of the price of living and the rewards vastly outweigh
30:13 the costs. Right? How many, if you're married, right? How many women did you ask out or go
30:20 out or were interested in or circled around or floated around with romantic intent? How
30:25 many of those women did it not work out with before you met your wife? I won't get into
30:33 my number, but it's not small. Right? So how many women were you interested in or dated
30:39 or whatever or asked out before you met the love of your life, the mother of your children,
30:46 the father of your children, whatever, right? Well, it's probably quite a few. And I'm also
30:50 including the women that you asked out who didn't say yes, right? The women who said
30:53 no. So you say, "Well, it's quite uncomfortable to go through all that rejection and to go
30:58 through all of that loss and to go through, it's painful, it's unhappy." I get it, I understand
31:03 that. And you can avoid all the pain of rejection by never asking a woman out, never dating,
31:11 staying home in the basement, whatever, right? You can avoid all of that rejection. And I
31:18 think if you've listened to my call-in shows, you've heard enough guys who are in their
31:26 mid to late 20s, early to mid 30s, or sometimes even older, who've taken that path and how
31:31 miserable they are. How alone, how desperate, how unskilled, and you know, for some of them
31:37 it's perilously close to unrecoverable. So that's not an answer. So you, over the course
31:45 of your life, are going to make how much more money if you have a car? Right? How much more
31:51 money are you going to make over the course of your life if you have a car? Well, a lot.
31:56 Right? And this doesn't even include the fact that if you have a car, you look kind of cooler
32:01 when you date girls. So you may end up with a higher quality girl who's going to be a
32:05 great wife and drive your income even higher by being so excellent and helpful. So how
32:11 much money are you going to make over the course of your life by having a car? How much
32:18 better is your life going to be over the course of your life by having a car? $100,000, $200,000,
32:24 $300,000, it's hard to know. And that doesn't even count the sort of soft quality of life
32:28 issues. So, you see where I'm going with this? So you lost, what, $6,000 or $7,000 by having
32:39 a car and having it totalled. Okay? So let's say that you make $200,000 over the course
32:48 of your life more by having a car, even including the cost of the car. So you're paying 3.5%
32:56 tax on $200,000 to pay the $7,000 it takes to restore this car. So you're still up $193,000.
33:05 Does that make sense? Like let's say you've got a house and you get some assessment and
33:13 you've got to pay $15,000 to fix your roof or something like that, right? Okay, that's
33:19 understandable. It's kind of annoying. But okay, but look at the value of your house
33:23 and how it's gone up over time. And let's say you sell the house for $200,000 more than
33:29 you paid for it. Well, that $15,000 is 7.5% of the $200,000. So instead of making $200,000,
33:40 you made $192,500. Now, it's also the case that if you, let's say you have a roof that
33:50 leaks and you got to pay $15,000 to fix it. So what that means is if you don't pay that
33:54 money, your house is going to be worth a whole lot less because it's leaky and crappy and
33:57 you've got water damage and right, so you're just, you're paying. So don't have a standard
34:02 where everything has to go perfectly and every deviation is bad, like you got half the long
34:05 and big and deep view, right? So to get back to Sereg, my long ago imaginary dwarf character
34:12 in Dungeons and Dragons, what did those low dice rolls teach me? Two things. One, don't
34:23 set your heart on good fortune because you're just setting yourself up to be heartbroken.
34:28 Don't set your heart on good fortune. If it comes, great. If it doesn't, it's not too
34:31 bad. It'll turn around. And of course, look at the big picture. Like, look at the big
34:37 picture. I know this sounds kind of ridiculous, but you know, bear with me as I sort of work
34:41 through what was happening in my brain when I was 13 or 14 years old. So my dwarf, if
34:48 I remember rightly, was lawful neutral and you know, fighters are just kind of tanks
34:52 in Dungeons and Dragons. All you do is roll dice. Maybe you got a couple of special attacks,
34:56 but you don't have any spells or cantrips or cool abilities. You're just like a tank.
35:01 Right? Plow through the monsters. So was it bad luck that I rolled a one and a three for
35:09 my hit points when I was 13 years old? No, because it taught me a lot. It taught me about
35:17 how to tell good stories and don't just have the dice roll. Like it would have been way
35:20 more exciting if I'd just made it out with one hit point and my companions had to grab
35:24 me and they pulled me out and all that. It would have been very exciting. Just dead,
35:28 that's not a good story. So I learned something about storytelling. I learned something about
35:31 graciousness in narrative and I learned something about a personality type that I didn't find
35:40 particularly attractive or appealing, which was sort of by the numbers rather than by
35:44 the spirit, right? By the letter of the law, by the spirit of the law. The spirit of Dungeons
35:48 and Dragons is to have exciting adventures. Not to run every number 100% in my view. Lots
35:54 of people differ on that. So don't get too... and don't judge yourself by bad luck. Because
36:03 isn't that really fundamentally what most troubles us about bad luck is we judge ourself.
36:06 I'm unlucky. The gods have it in for me, the fate does. Like I remember when I dated a
36:12 woman from another culture, I would be happy about something and I would be enthusiastic
36:18 about something and she would be like, "Oh, black tongue, don't say it. The gods will
36:21 strike you down." And she was kind of joking, but it's like don't show any positivity, don't
36:24 show any enthusiasm because the gods will see your hubris and strike you down and all
36:29 that. And that's a real mindset for a lot of people. So yeah, there's no gods out there
36:34 who are pushing the dice. It's just a matter of what are you going to learn and how. And
36:39 how hard is the lesson going to have to be before you learn those lessons, right?
36:45 So what came out of this whole dice roll when I was 13 or 14 years old was that Sereg died
36:52 and then I had his brother Scarab came around for a little bit and then I created Argoth
37:00 the Paladin. And Argoth the Paladin I played for the next year or two and he was a great
37:05 character to play. Much more in line with my values and much more interesting to play.
37:09 You know, he had healing spells, he had protection from evil, he had divine bless spells, he
37:13 had... could wield particular magic swords and he was just much more lawful good. It's
37:19 kind of in alignment with my personality as a whole. So because I had "bad luck" I ended
37:24 up with a much more interesting character that I played right through to the end of
37:28 Dungeons and Dragons, right? Right through to the end. And it's funny, you know, there's
37:32 that heartbreaking meme about kids in the evening all on their bikes and the meme is
37:39 "One day you and your friends went out to play for the very last time but nobody knew
37:43 it." Yeah, and one day we got together for Dungeons and Dragons for the last time and
37:47 nobody knew it and the last time was when my character finished a great quest and ascended
37:53 to demigod status and it was really cool and that was it. Like, there was nothing else
37:57 to do and I was fine. I was fine with it. So, was it bad luck that I rolled low? No.
38:06 Now, how do you turn bad luck into good luck? Well, you learn as many elemental lessons
38:10 as possible. So I tried to get as many elemental lessons out of rolling badly, low those many
38:16 years ago, for my Dungeons and Dragons. Don't count on good fortune, don't assume things
38:21 are going to be bad just because they feel bad in the moment and look for the long view.
38:26 So you're going to make more money over the course of your life most likely by having
38:30 a car than not having a car. So, yeah, every now and then your car is going to cost you
38:35 money and in this case it wasn't your fault. Okay, so then you say, "Okay, what can I learn
38:41 from this that's going to save me more than the 6 or 7k I have to spend in this situation?
38:46 What's going to save me more than this?" So, I don't know, here's just some possibilities.
38:52 You say, "Well, why am I living in a neighborhood where there's uninsured people driving around?"
38:59 And I get, this could be bad luck, but generally if you live in a nicer neighborhood there'll
39:03 be fewer uninsured people driving around. So maybe this is nature's way of telling you
39:12 to move to a safer or better neighborhood and maybe that's going to work out really
39:17 well for you in the long run. Maybe you'll move because you don't want to be in this
39:20 kind of crappy neighborhood and you'll meet the girl of your dreams and so then you'll
39:24 look back and you say, "Wow, was it ever great that my car got totals?" I mean, I know, what
39:30 can you learn? Can you negotiate a better deal with your insurance company so if you
39:37 can't move at least you pay some extra but you get 100% of the value of the truck? Maybe
39:41 you learn that, right? And maybe you learn a little bit something about balancing risks.
39:45 So if you got a cheaper insurance policy because it only pays 70% of the price of a totaled
39:52 car then you own it. You made that choice. So if it was like an extra 50 bucks a month
40:01 to get full coverage and you decided to save that money, well, okay, I mean that's a fair
40:06 decision and there's nothing wrong but it just happened to not be the right decision
40:09 for what happened. That doesn't mean you made the wrong decision because you didn't know
40:12 you were going to get totals but you took that risk. Right, you took that risk. What's
40:17 that old Canadian commercial about investments and it's like, "What's your investment risk
40:23 tolerance?" And somebody's like, "I like frying bacon in the nude." Something like that. Okay,
40:28 well, if you took and maybe you can learn that, right? So if you're the kind of person
40:33 who wants to save 50 bucks a month and then have a less comprehensive insurance policy
40:38 and then you get depressed for three months because you lost your car or you lost a lot
40:44 of money, then you have to say, "Okay, well, I'm the kind of person who needs to pay more
40:49 for insurance, so to cover myself for more." Does that make sense? And then you'll learn
40:54 about that and something much more important, you'll prevent being unhappy for a year by
40:57 learning from that. So lots of things to learn about with this kind of stuff. But yeah, luck
41:02 is very interesting. Luck is by its nature random but because we're pattern making machines,
41:07 we try and figure out patterns. Because we're pattern making machines, saying luck is usually
41:14 ascribing some moral or conscious intent or result out of something that's purely random.
41:21 Unless it's not purely random and there's something you can do about it, in which case
41:24 it's a lesson to improve things, right? So, you know, obviously it was bad luck that I
41:29 got cancer but I've tried to make sure that I stay out of the sun or stay out of the direct
41:35 sun or have lots of protection so that at least I can minimize my chances of skin cancer.
41:40 A sort of blond, blue-eyed guy, that's one of the risks that I would have, especially
41:44 half Irish, half German. We're not exactly known for our rotisserie-style sun absorption.
41:49 We're more like vampires. So luck is, "Oh, I'm lucky or I'm unlucky." That's to say that
41:56 the gods are blessing or cursing you and that's not the case. Random stuff is just that, random.
42:03 And you can do things to mitigate the negative effects of random things and if you're really
42:07 harshly struck by the negative stuff, then you need to work to protect yourself more
42:13 or find a way to change your mindset. If you don't mind the negative stuff as much, like
42:17 if you're like, "Well, you know, I saved 50 bucks a month for a couple of years on my
42:21 car insurance so yeah, I just happened to roll snake eyes and got plowed but, you know,
42:25 so maybe if I don't like it that much I'll pay more for my insurance next time or I'll
42:28 move or whatever it is, right? Maybe I'll get a garage and won't park on the street
42:33 so maybe if you got totaled in the parking or something like that. But you can learn
42:36 from it to try and mitigate the risk next time. But don't just sit there and feel unlucky
42:39 and cursed and helpless and all of that because that's not an accurate view. There's nothing
42:44 moral in happenstance. Like the gods weren't pushing my dice to teach me a lesson, right?
42:51 And the gods didn't have someone crash into your car to teach you a lesson or because
42:55 you're cursed or you were bad or, right? That's the kind of stuff that's really primitive,
42:59 right? And it's a primitive part of us to look for these patterns, right? Like the rains
43:02 haven't come because people are taking the Lord's name in vain. It's like, no, that's
43:06 not a thing. But, you know, because people believe that, yeah, and if you, sorry, because
43:13 people believe that the rains haven't come because people are taking the Lord's name
43:17 in vain, they won't work as hard on irrigation. They'll just start taking the Lord's name
43:20 in vain which doesn't have any effect on the weather. So when you ascribe things to luck,
43:26 good or bad luck, or you feel, oh, this really bad thing happened and I feel bad about it,
43:30 then what you're doing is you're not learning the lessons. You're saying, okay, something
43:34 bad happened to me. I need to figure out what and why it was and try and figure out how
43:41 I can minimize impact next time. Or it helps you to look at the big picture, right? Bad
43:47 luck in the moment can help you look at the big picture. So as I said, right, you're going
43:51 to make more money having a car, even with the cost of this loss, than not having a car.
43:56 So just look at the big picture and say, yeah, having a car means you're at risk of accidents.
43:59 Having a car means you're at risk of the car failing. Having a car means you're at the
44:03 risk of sudden expenses. Having a car means whatever, whatever, whatever, right? And you
44:08 have to look at the cost benefits. And if the benefits of having a car over the course
44:12 of your life outweigh the cost, then eat the cost. Recognize the cost. It's something I
44:16 learned kind of early on in business, you know, like cost of doing business, the cost
44:20 of doing business. It's just the cost of doing business, yes. In the pursuit of the woman
44:24 of your dreams or the man of your dreams, yeah, guess what? You're going to get your
44:27 heart broken a couple of times, maybe more than a couple of times. And you're going to
44:31 break other people's hearts a couple of times, maybe more than a couple of times. That's
44:35 the price of doing business. That's the price of getting good things in life. So I hope
44:39 this helps. And I'm obviously curious to hear what everyone else thinks about this luck
44:42 thing. But yeah, I've thought a lot about it over the course of my life because it's
44:46 easy to feel worth more if you happen to be having a bunch of good luck, right? Like that
44:52 even Stephen thing in Seinfeld where he loses 50 bucks then finds 50 bucks in a jacket,
44:57 right? It's easy to feel like, "Oh, I'm so lucky. Everything works out for me, blah,
45:02 blah, blah, blah, blah." It's easy to feel that that makes you better. The cost of that
45:05 is when things don't work out for you, you'll feel cursed by the gods rather than blessed.
45:09 And of course, neither is actually happening. It's just that you can judo these harsh lessons
45:15 into better perspectives, more peace of mind, and better circumstances. All right, free
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